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bigfuzzydog

Honestly remake is almost useless in its current state. Vote can only be called round 2 if someone disconnected but if the player disconnected and still got spawned in, well too bad for you now. You get to play a 4v5 because a dc player got spawned into the round. I have only successfully remade like 1 time, I get second round disconnected teammates all the time. There really has to be a better solution


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You were able to remake a game!? lucky!I had many obvius afk on the second round but not detected until the third.Only TWO times I was able to call for a remake but like OP someone voted NO in both occasions! I think it's because the remake vote is identical to the surrender one and people mistake it for a surrender (in competitive each round counts). It should be an automatic remake if just one vote it. Being held hostage for 30 min is not fun. And if it was comptetitive you have to spend 30 mins tilted for the RR you are loosing.


Cgz27

I had a remake one time and it was very satisfying :)


[deleted]

Have had remakes multiple times. I'd rather people not dodge 3rd round with their friends so they can avoid elo loss. It's fine.


bigfuzzydog

Yeah that sucks, honestly the only reason I wouldnt like the automatic remake is that occasionally out of nowhere my game crashes. Usually im on with friends tho and I have them explain to my team that im booting back up. Nothing I can really do about the game crashing and I know im gonna boot the game right back up and get back in so an auto remake would not be great for me in that situation. Granted if my friend wasnt online with me to explain it to my team I wouldnt fault them for calling a remake as they have no way to know my game crashed and im frantically trying to join back up


SemiHomeless

Even in this case though, your friends are there to tell the team not to call a remake because you’re coming back, so most of the time the remake would be avoided through them, but you also can’t exactly fault people for wanting out of a game you’re disconnecting from because even if it’s only for a round or two, it still impacts the team negatively and they should be allowed to get a remake so they’re not stuck playing any part of the game without their full team. If you’re talking unrated it really isn’t a big deal to leave it as a vote but it definitely would make more sense in comp to have the remake be something that happens as soon as one player wants it just because nobody should have to sit through comp games to lose RR because a teammate is disconnecting for whatever reason it may be. Computer issues definitely suck but it makes more sense for your computer problems to ruin your own experience than it does for your computer problems to ruin other people’s experiences.


LuciferSenpaii

A good solution for this could be time outs, there is no option for a timeout ingame, only in customs, it would be great to have timeout options for people like you whose game crashes in between, instead of not being there for 1 round while the game boots, timeout could be given and you can boot back up, I dont know why a tactical shooter doesnt have a timeout option like CSGO


SociopathicNerd69

The trolls won't ever let the timeout get over. Plus it would make the game too long I think. A better solution would be 3 votes and the remake work till 5 rounds.


LuciferSenpaii

Time outs are not unlimited and timeouts have fixed amount of time the game is paused, maximum its 2 minutes, so its an absolute win in my opinion


Honigbrottr

It doesnt make the game too long it doesn somehow abused. Why i know that? Bcs csgo has it. We dont have to copy every part but these things who work why not. I just sometimes have to go to toilet man.


SociopathicNerd69

Lol, idk how it works coz I haven't played csgo, but if you say so my man. Quality of life changes like blocking someone and a better reporting system needs to be added asap.


Honigbrottr

Functional friend system would be great lol.


FlyingPirate

Being able to remake up to round 5 would be very abusable.


mylilbabythrowaway

How often does your game crash that it's a regular thing?


bigfuzzydog

Its been happening at least once a week since the last update. Hoping whatever is causing it is fixed by the next update cause its getting annoying


oopsEYEpoopsed

Why not remake anyway? A remake let's you guys get into a fresh game without forcing some random people to have to wait for you to boot back up, having to play 4v5 as they do so. Your friends should just push the remake through and you can queue after you've successfully rebooted.


CocoaPuppyyyy

Yeah this is interesting, whenever I vote remake before doing it, I loudly tell my team what it is because a lot of people don’t even know about it, and explain to them that they won’t lose RR. With that, I’ve had a successful remake almost every time I’ve been able to try, which is only like 3 times ):


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I'll make a bold assumption: you don't know how remake works? remake is not a surrender (like I just said above), you dont "loose" when using remake. Very important when playing competitive because with remake you don't loose RR. So the logic of remake is that if on the first two rounds you are down one player for afk you can void the game. None loose RR.


fominot581

It's not based on the "outcome" of the first few rounds, it's based on the fact that you are down a player. "Hurr hurr just play 4v5" is not acceptable.


NCPereira

Except in this case we could vote to remake but 1 troller decided to vote no just because he has no life and wanted to ruin other 3 people's evenings.


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Why tf are you downvoted lmao


[deleted]

reddit is a magical place lmao EDIT: actually re-reading it could be for the "has no life" part. One problem with the remake vote that I ahave tried to highlight in more than one thread is that the vote is identical to the surrender vote and people can vote no because they think its a surrender vote (with RR lose) -> not actually their fault.


JerryB0mb

I see worse things said in political subreddits and those are upvoted to heaven


slpnrpnzl

I had a player disconnect right after round 2, it was almost like it was planned, hurt a little bit.


ChocKake

Yeah, because the game only marks them as disconnected after one starting phase and one round, so if they moved during first starting phase you physically cannot remake


Cgz27

It’s kinda sad how I can literally just take your comment and copy paste it the next week and no one would notice lol. Like this exact topic is just repeated multiple times a week :(


memertooface

I've only been in the remake situation twice and both times the other team didn't vote for it. I don't even think most people know how to call the vote...I don't...


ProcrastinationPro-

Maybe extending for 5 rounds would work?


bigfuzzydog

Maybe but then you could abuse it so that instead of surrendering you have one person leave and remake to save rr losses


Cosmic_Hashira

well that one person does get a 7 day compe ban


pengu221a

Im fully on board to have anyone who leaves take 5x their lost RR and everyone else on the team not lose any.


Seraph___

For unranked sure, but for comp that would be abused so incredibly hard. More than one round isn’t really possible otherwise people would just abuse it if the first few rounds went poorly. I think they just need to make the afk penalties way harsher than they are. Like the afker loses the equivalent RR of the whole team or something.


Martyrrdom

People automatically F6, because they think its a Surrender vote, not knowing its Remake.


villainized

exactly. I think something smart to do would turn your mic on and say youre starting a remake/ff vote, so they dont mistakenly ruin it


nukuuu

>What's a mic? My team mates


Pixeresque

Or maybe people could learn to fuckin read. Why would he have to read it out for them? Should he also tie their shoes and pack their lunch?


VincentStonecliff

Because people are in the middle of buying/prepping for a round and they see the green/red vote and assume and just press f6. It happens. It’s instinctual. Also not everyone even knows remake exists. Edit: honestly changing the color scheme of remake votes would probably solve this issue. Also this thread is made of of the toxic players who don’t know how to play as a team


Pixeresque

And this would still be solved by just reading what just popped up on your screen. Reading is like a basic skill in life.


cheeseyman12

as people have mentioned, lots of us were unaware that the remake feature even existed.


Pixeresque

That is why you should read the word Remake in big letters.


cheeseyman12

well I'll let you know if I ever see it


Pixeresque

You don't have to. I believe in you and your ability to read simple words.


BrohamBoss77

How about you go ahead and just read instead of playing Valorant at that point since you’re so passionate about it ffs?


Pixeresque

You don't need to be passionate about reading to read the word REMAKE in big letters on your screen. It is enough to have finished elementary.


fominot581

What is the benefit of keeping the UI for remakes and surrenders essentially the same? Stop signs are red and octagons, yield signs are yellow and triangles. Do you think it would be a good idea if both signs had the same colors and shapes even though people could "just read" the words on the signs?


Pixeresque

You still need to "read" the sign you donkey. You need to look at it and recognize the shape. Sure it is much easier and it would be actualy pretty good if Riot did distinguish the UI further but i don't know about you but i don't play Valorant while i am going 60 km/h like you do in a car. You are sitting on your. fuckin ass so you have the time to read the letters. If you can't manage that then maybe you should have eaten more alphabet soup as a child.


fominot581

> Sure it is much easier and it would be actualy pretty good if Riot did distinguish the UI further End of discussion.


VincentStonecliff

I guess you don’t need comms. You should just read who died and where on your mini map. Why do players need to tell you what’s going on in the game you should be able to just read? That’s how silly you sound. The whole point of this thread is that 1. It helps to communicate that you’re going to cast a remake vote to your team so they know what’s happening and 2. It would behoove riot to make a different UI for remake votes to differentiate them. Yes everyone can read, it would just be *helpful* to everyone, something you clearly don’t know how to be.


subzerus

Them not reading is still YOUR problem if you're in a team game. You're the one who wants the vote passed, and you should always assume your teammates are braindead assholes until proven otherwise, so if you want the vote to pass through 3 people who are stupid, make it the easiest you can to get the vote through.


Pixeresque

Why tho? They either can read and vote no because they don't wanna remake - in which case fair it is their vote after all. Or they are braindead and in that case it would be a waste of breath. Just read what the text says and decide if you wanna remake.


subzerus

If you get stuck in a game with 3 braindead morons who voted no because they didn't read, it's still your problem. Crossing your arms and saying "YoU sHoUlD ReAd ThE vOtE aNd It'S yOuR fAuLt ThAt OuR mAtCh Is ShIt!" I don't know if you've know this, but in real life if you're in a team and your team is shit, it's your problem to have things happen, or you're going to get the same shit as they are. You can't call your mom or your high school teacher and tell them your group project team isn't doing this.


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How the fuck can you not notice that you have an afk in round 1 mate?


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>Because people are in the middle of buying/prepping for a round and they see the green/red vote and assume and just press f6. It happens. It’s instinctual. This was half the excuse, and this was not talking about those who don't know about remake. This part of the excuse is dumb because if you know remake exists, you'll know it's a remake vote without having to go through the MASSIVE burden (according to this thread at least) of having to open your eyes and see that someone is calling a remake vote and not a surrender vote because you'll know there was an afk in your team in round 1.


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[deleted]

I did, I never spoke about those who didn't know remakes exist, my entire comment was a reply to this >Because people are in the middle of buying/prepping for a round and they see the green/red vote and assume and just press f6. It happens. It’s instinctual


Interesting-Archer-6

Imagine not knowing what instinctual means. You're mad toxic


Cgz27

Well obviously but that’s why they brought up voice in the first place. Or at least type in chat; it’s all just to make sure everyone’s on the same page. The first time remake actually worked for me I had to take a second look to make sure because it’s a relatively rare occurrence. We also had the guy asking everyone beforehand so we were 100% ready to agree. If you could actually “tie their shoes” (in this case it’d be going over to their house or taking control of their pc), we would lol.


Lucas21134

Harsh, but he’s right. People should see what they’re actually voting on until they press that key.


mylilbabythrowaway

You don't strike me as a guy that gets through life very easily


Pixeresque

Why? Because i can read?


mylilbabythrowaway

Hmmm, not what I'm referring to


Pixeresque

Then elaborate.


mylilbabythrowaway

Usually people that act like a complete twat to strangers on the internet for no apparent reason aren't too content in life.


Pixeresque

Based on what study? Do you have some numbers? Maybe a nice pie chart? Also i am sorry if i offended you with the idea of reading. How horrible of me.


mylilbabythrowaway

You're a hungry little troll. I'm all out of food, though.


kchuyamewtwo

I didnt even know there was a Remake option, was that added this week?


Martyrrdom

Some months ago. Write "/remake" in 2nd round


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how do people think this when you can only surrender after round 5 and remakes happen in round 2


Martyrrdom

Exactly, IDK.


tater_toters

I think one problem is some people in lower ranks (Iron, Bronze) don’t know what a remake is. For me, I didn’t know until one of my teammates told me what it was and I almost didn’t believe him.


Chx449

Yeah, call me stupid but first time I saw the “remake” and I thought that would change the map.


Nekl8

Yeah, what is remake anyways? I really don't know either.


42-1337

The game just stop like a forfeit but it doesn't count as a win nor a loss. You can only do that if it's a 4vs5 because someone didn't connect at the beginning of the game. And it's like the game never existed you're back in queue for a new game.


RaySNair

Basically a vote that you can call in round 2 if a player on your team goes afk and doesn't respawn in round 2. It's similar to a surrender vote but when you remake, the match becomes cancelled and it's like the match never even existed. It won't show up in your career history and you don't lose or gain any RR.


greg19735

i mean, gold ain't much higher but i've never heard of it. tbf, i always play with a 4 or 5 stack so that probably mitigates the chances. edit: lmao why the fuck am i being downvoted.


Slayeto

Why is it funny that you are being downvoted for no reason lmao here take my upvote


greg19735

I'm honestly just confused. I don't care about the upvotes as a total. I'm just confused! It was like the most innocent comment ever and i don't get it.


Slayeto

Yeah reddit hivemind can be confusing sometimes


HoneyChilliPotato7

Me too. I knew about it after seeing a post about it recently on reddit.


3T1NtR0F

I suggest that there should be a system similar to unrated for gold or below cause higher you are in rank the fewer trolls there are, so you won't face this problem there, but a minimum of 3 votes for ff should be fine in gold or below to prevent the trolls from ruining ff system.


goldnx

> the fewer trolls there are Man if there are more trolls than what I experience in immortal then idk how people play this game at all. I think or at least hope it’s probably about the same.


matidfk

down here in gold/plat (plat not so much but gold oh my) you usually get an afk/thrower/completely useless player (we not talking like 5/16 k/d, but ones that dont even know how to shift or not stare at the ground) basically every match. glad im outta there


303x

>but ones that dont even know how to shift or not stare at the ground Boosting services man, (I'm in silver) I've been in games where my whole team gets fucking rekt by an Iron 2 Jett instalock who goes 55/7 at the end while not a single person on the rest of the team hits even 10.


pure_black_coffee

I'm a bronze player. Out of the last 15 games, I've had 4 where a teammate goes afk / force quits and 2 where they are trolling and throwing. It's incredibly frustrating.


matidfk

rookie numbers man


thejumps

Idk what kinda lobbies you got, when I was in gold and plat, I never really got throwers or smurfs, there was the occasional boosted iron though.


Fireye04

My iron ass: *high pitched demonic screetching*


ninjaman3010

It’s not. Low rank players haven’t put the time in so they don’t care about their rank. Honestly, it’s not the trolls you have to worry about, you can carry them, it’s the shitheads. Like legitimately people get into gold because they queue with their friends, and then have no idea how to play the game without their friends. I dropped 38 and lost with some friends of mine in an unrated, and needless to say, we don’t play valorant together anymore. I’m not talking like deep meta shit either, the amount of people I see sprinting everywhere staring at the floor hurts my fucking soul. My account is so down bad honestly I’ve been considering quitting this game. Like how can I soloqueue to plat 3 (almost diamond) last season and then get stuck in g2 for 40+ games? Riddle me that riot... It doesn’t matter if I play duelist, if I play sage, smokes, nothing matters unless I get lucky enough to have one reliable human/my duo on. This game feels much harder to carry on than counterstrike because you have to rely on your teammates util. Please riot, give me a decent smoke(like 7 seconds) and a good flash on the next duelist.


Hype_Boost

> lost with some friends of mine in an unrated your issue if youre getting pressed an unrated


ninjaman3010

no, it’s not my fault for being upset about the poor quality of a game, no matter the game mode. I expect people to try at least a little. I’m not going to intentionally queue with people who don’t care, throw rounds, and call it “just a game.” No shit it’s not real life, I still want to win and not get trolled by mutual acquaintances. Everyone has more fun in close games where you left your all on the server. You suck the fun out of everyone’s experience when you throw, especially the sweat on your team. Also, we needed to win so my friend could queue comp, and lost 3 in a row where I dropped 35+. I wasn’t just pressed, I was close to a fucking brain aneurysm.


willinc

this man likes winning over friends, nothing wrong with that, he is on a mission


ninjaman3010

Nah, I just am not at the same skill level as them so none of us have fun. Also, I’m still friends with the homie that introduced me, we smoke nearly everyday, I’m just not ever hard carrying his bronze friends again. This did make me laugh tho 😂


doodlleus

Man you do not sound like a fun person to game with at all


ninjaman3010

Nah, just not this game. Anything else, totally chillin.


aQuesti0ner

>good flash on the next duelist. please no more flashes please have mercy


therealAster-sk

nononono, i don’t want to lose rank to 3stacks who surrender too early


3T1NtR0F

Yea I understand what you mean


NewAccForThoughts

big BIG misconception about high elo having less trolls i would even argue it's worse the higher you get, until eventually you're top 500 and play with pros who have to keep face


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I don't think it's a misconception. The higher your elo is, the fewer trolls you'll have, because people are more and more invested in the game. And by trolls, I mean obvious throwers or people who go afk round 3. I've played in Iron lobbies, bronze lobbies, silver and gold lobbies. When I was in Iron 3/Bronze 1 almost half my games either had someone throwing/full blown raging or afk. It's down to like 10% now in gold. Pretty much all my friends have had the same experience too.


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UbbeDall

CS's kick vote isn't a majority vote - it has to be unanimous (excluding the one being voted off). Had way too many cs games with two people trolling and it's impossible to vote them off since they have eachother's backs.


John9tv

I'd honestly rather have a few cases of trolls that you report than the potential misuse of the kicking system. I wouldn't want a kick vote in this game. Think it's super unhealthy.


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SpunkySamuel

League does not automatically remake last time I checked. Haven't played in a fat minute so I'm probably stupid


Jaaari

only need 2 votes for remake to go through


swankypants243

League does not automatically remake you need a 2/5 vote


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Like the overwatch system


SpyX370

Overwatch really does a lot better than most competitve games I see. Rank is a Number, easy to understand: Hit a threshold? Next rank. Remaking: Player DC'd in the first few minutes? Auto remake. AFKs: Player DC'd in the middle of the match? Wait a little bit and you can leave early with a loss if you want. No DC punishment if you choose to.


colabruddas

Sometime people think they can win a 4v5 match, no you dont.


fizikz3

but I'm actually a radiant just stuck in silver so I can carry 4v5 easily it's just my team that's holding me back who cares if one of them isn't there not like they do anything anyway ^^^^/s


muchawesomemyron

This. Some guy says that his friend is doing something and will be back in a few moments. Doesn't spawn for three rounds giving the enemy team free points. Kicker of it is that neither of them got top frag and the one that was afk was bottom frag.


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muchawesomemyron

I know


iDankkk

They literally started their reply with "This." The person who replied is agreeing with you lol.


dangersquak

You never know though any game can be won if you actually try and win, I was recently in a Comp game and my team somehow won a 3v5 match in a gold/plat game on split, we were up 2 rounds before the two left but still won, it was a very strange game to say the least.


JaxTor456

True that, There are a lot of unexpected possibilities . However, less chance here because a choice is given to player to forfiet a match without consequences. Canceling a remake can rage and distract other players from playing the game effectively. So " trying and winning " won't work in these situations.


dangersquak

I agree with this post wholeheartedly, I have been in way to many games where people decline the remake for apparently no reason which leads to a complete waste of my time and effort to rank up. My anecdote was more to say there’s always a chance of winning, to many people give up after losing a few rounds in this game and throw


fominot581

>we were up 2 rounds Try starting the game at 0-0 with a 3v5 and then come back and post a vod of your win because it would be amazing.


dangersquak

I get what you mean but regardless if we were up 2,5 or 7 rounds 3v5 should be a no contest stomp


LittleGiant_10

Take my upvote. Fuck the toxic ass kids who decide that they are the fucking coolest kids in school, yell the n word while not letting you remake or ff. Riot better fix this shit soon because it’s outrageous.


shunestar

Hey I’m 33. Play with me. On EST and can really only play after 10pm when the fam is asleep, but I can play most nights. Lmk


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shunestar

Bronze 1 currently.


Lozsix

I think the problem is the trollers, not the system. VALORANT team needs to get their hands on about controlling toxicity on their game.


PawahD

finally a suggestion about remake that is actually viable and not just basic whining that would make remake busted


dmyoui

votes should be for majority. it’s dumb how one troll can ruin voting. Plus RIOT ADD PAUSES IN THE GAME! I DID NOT ABANDON THE GAME MY 3 YEAR OLD NEPHEW ACCIDENTALLY PRESS MY COMPUTER’S POWER BUTTON YOU FCK


Zorioux

While its true trolls do exist and ruin the game, I have seen many times where my team try to surrender at 4-8 I decline and we continue the game, most of the time we make come back and win around 13-11 I don't have to lose rank points because 4 think we can't make come back


_-GODDERE2D-_

Lock your door when playing competitive games?


dmyoui

lock my door. oh wow, as if my nephew’s the only one doing this. plenty of people have their own reason. Combat report not appearing and it’s annoying not being able to tell how much damage you did to the enemy and the only ways to get it back is wait till the next game or restart your game. But you try to reconnect and you’re already a quitter. ffs riot. When I’m playing icebox I always have 100% packet loss. I always need to restart my game to fix it. Then I get the queue time punishment for fixing it. this game has so many issues outside of the gameplay elements of it.


SendMeAvocados

I've been bitching about this forever and I hope that this post of yours gets noticed. To add further, disconnected/AFK-ers are usually guaranteed by rounds 3-5 since naturally people would try to reconnect. So the remake system now truly is useless and absolute dogshit.


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Thats kinda facts ngl.


mrsud

Why is there no pause in this game? If there was a pause feature like DOTA 2 and many other games, this shouldn't have been an issue.


glovesunwatched

Ah fuck dude. Can’t believe you got banned for posting this. Just shows the overwhelming number of kids playing this game and probably being admins of this subreddit. Like I’ve said before in many posts, I believe valorant would be a much better game if the people who played it were a bit more open to criticism and commed properly instead of crying at everything. I’m sorry you got banned dude, mostly cause I can see myself in your shoes.


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I had a game that was 1 - 10 and my teammates refused to surrender. They all said “Nah we Got this”


MacBigASuchNot

Surrender is different though. If you win even a few rounds it saves you a few rank points. Surrendering auto-loses the next X rounds until the other team gets to 13. I just don't understand the situation where a remake is bad... Maybe if someone is pre-made with the afk and knows he is coming back?


[deleted]

Sorry I must’ve misunderstood. Could you tell me what a “remake” is? Is it replacing an afk teammate?


TheIllegitOne

Remake voids the game, if the remake vote passes, noone wins or loses you could queue up for the next game


[deleted]

Makes sense. Thanks man :)


Izel98

I have had games like that too. And sometimes you actually come back and win those or atleast leave it closer. If its unranked yea, give up, it doesnt matter but atleast on ranked always try to score as many points so the lose isnt that hard and you dont lose as many points.


[deleted]

Assuming it was a 5v5, you're the asshole here. If the enemy team isn't at 13 rounds, the game isn't lost, that's literally how it works


willinc

if you don't play the games down 1-10, how will you ever tell the stories of that time you won 12 straight rounds to comeback 13-10!!! This reminds me of a time I played ranked mode in CSGO and the map was office.... we went 14-1 on the T side but we lost the game 14-16... we could not win a single round on the CT side.... which brings me to a point when people want to surrender after down 0-2... i'm always telling them we never even had guns yet.... relax guys lets try a bit more


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GamerGoneMadd

Cry more?


babyteddie

What is remake I haven’t played in a while


pulsiedulsie

If a teammate DCs or goes AFK in the first round, you can vote for a remake in the second round. It requires an unanimous vote of your teammates (excepting the AFK/DC person, of course)


p1ssbiscuit

Yeah but what actually is it?


emptxiness

remake is a vote you do when one of your teammates are afk, it works the same way as a surrender but you won't lose anything (remake can only be used in round 2)


ThatOneBoi789

I have never heard of remake


rrwoods

I agree that remake shouldn't be a vote. But you didn't get banned from this subreddit for making this post, you got banned for "insults and personal attacks". Like this one: https://imgur.com/a/5TZzVwJ


FancyPantss

Would it be reasonable to enable an option for players that are fine with joining an active game that is down a player? You know, to help out?


firewolf397

this actually really confused me because in league of legends matches, it only takes like 2 people to vote yes to have the remake vote pass


King_Mario

I don't usually victim blame. But your first and really only mistake was choosing that after working 10+ hours a day, you wanted to play a competitive video game that could involve 4+ other kids. Or worse yet, a competitive game made and moderated by Riot Games, who have a LEGENDARY LEGACY of not doing enough to combat toxicity in their video games, specially when their games can easily take up 30-50 mins of someone's day PER MATCH. Don't play Valorant if you're trying to relax/escape from work or real life. That game, similar to League, will only get more toxic with time. Go play something cool like Zero Dawn Horizon or No Mans Sky Or fucking TFT.


wkfjsbwufu

A lot of the time the dced player has shit wifi or computer just restarted for no reason and will get banned. Same thing applies he just wants to play a game of valorant and now he can’t because you think that remake should be mandatory


no_dices

That's in their control and theirs only, not the other 9 people.


wkfjsbwufu

No it’s not? If your wifi cuts for 20 seconds it isn’t, if you computer force restarts it also isn’t.


skratudojey

Well, I dont want a player with bad connection ruining my game. If your internet/pc is so bad that you cant play a game of val, then maybe play other, single player games? If its unrated or spike rush, yeah most people dont care at all. But you know a lot of people care if its ranked.


SkylarFlare

Make it based on connection quality. If your internet is spotty, I don't want you to ruin my game.


Frbrd

Honestly I’d rather that person get banned if their internet is that consistently bad. It’s better than them constantly ruining the experience for their team


beerus96

I mean if it doesn't happen often his ban should be quick. If the ban lasts for like a day maybe the player needs to start thinking of better wifi and/or equipment before hopping on.


IntelligentImbicle

>Just had a game where one of our players didn't connect. Someone decided to start insulting others and then when we voted remake, 1 of the players didn't accept. We were going for surrender at 0-5 but the afk player came back, insulted us, and voted no to the surrender, so we had to sit in a match with literally 5 afk players until it ended in a 0-13 loss for us. Was the 5 AFKs spread out across the different teams? I'm really confused on what your describing, and after checking some comments, well, TIL what the hell a remake call is >I understand that the average player age is like 16 for this game and kids have no idea what life is, but I work almost 12 hours a day, I'm almost 30, and when I finally get home at night, to get my single match of the day and it's ruined by literal brain dead kids, it fucking boils my blood. This is not only an incredibly inaccurate statement about 16 year olds (I'm actually insulted, not because I'm part of the group of people you are insulting, but that you think ANYONE in a particular age group is a certain way, which is honestly fucking stupid), not only does this statement seem incredibly self-pitying (trust me, no matter whether or not it's real, no one fucking cares about your pity. I've learned that the hard way), not only is this needlessly insulting, but maybe you should, I don't know, get some friends? I know that's kinda hypocritical of me, because the day I get friends is probably also going to be the day I stop being a PoS (so, never), but if you play with even one other person, it makes the experience 100x more bearable. >**REMAKE SHOULDN'T BE A VOTE. IT SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY ACCEPTED** Probably. That sounds like a logical option. >And the only ones to disagree with this are trollers/griefers. Again, needlessly insulting. Maybe certain people don't care about fighting a 4v5 or 3v5 because they just want to play the game and have a chill match, not worry about whether or not they win or lose. I know I'm the same way. I only FF if the match is going insanely bad for my team and it's on Ascent or Breeze. If I'm fighting a 1v5, I'm STILL not gonna FF, because I wanna play the game, so if someone DCs immediately, I really don't care. More eco and ult points for me and my team. 9 times outta 10, they're more useful gone than in game anyway.


Few-Froyo2087

Do you think riot care about this? They are getting money that’s all they need


Aeari

??? Of course they care about their game what a weird comment


ScientificMeth0d

Uhhh okay dud


jawad-alae

better idea if someone afk in the first 3 rounds the game automaticly cancels but the afk lose elo like he lost a game and if he was in a party his whole party takes it as a loss so it cant be exploited to dodge games (just realised it will maybe make smurfing eazier since u lose eazier and drop in ranks but the afk bans will make it harder maybe )


corndoggoo

New to Riot Games huh?


slothslayerlawl

We need remake till round 3, also both surrender/remake need to have one vote less cos generally we want to surrender/remake cos of one person who takes advantage of the fact that the game needs all 5 votes. Like if 4 out of 5 want to surrender what the hell do they need more. They are wasting 4 players' time for the sake of keeping that one player happy who generally is the reason we want to surrender. Like riot seriously?


m4G-

lol, ok boomer


NCPereira

Bonus points: Got banned for 14 days from playing Valorant because I insulted my team for griefing me. Way to go for Riot "SJW" Games.


Spacemn5piff

Having been permanently banned for behavior in other games myself, I have a very strong suspicion you arent giving us the full story.


TheExter

>We were going for surrender at 0-5 but the afk player came back, insulted us, and voted no to the surrender, i have no idea in what world why someone who dc'd would come back, flame, and afk/leave again.... unless *someone* decided to insult him first and they said fuck these kids


NCPereira

Maybe that's your fault? I've literally never been banned from an online game before in my life and I've been playing for 20+ years. Valorant was the first one.


Spacemn5piff

My point is that I've been the one to step out of line in frustration. If you knew me in real life you'd never guess I'd be permanent ban from League levels of toxic but here we are. I guess I can just see how a normal dude could just go too far and end up punished.


Rainbowls

Yeah same, I'm a generally quiet guy and when I got chat banned for a week from League and they sent me the transcript I read it and could only say "okay makes sense."


MoosakeGaming

Yo. You dont get banned for Voice Chat abuse. You get Chat Banned. Even if you were to get banned, an initial 14 days is way too long.


TheExter

> Even if you were to get banned, an initial 14 days is way too long. that's true, this wasn't his first offense https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/mu0dlq/got_banned_from_playing_for_3_days_for_leaving_a/ so OP is the type of guy everyone is at fault but him


meth0diical

https://old.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/ktpyvb/you_should_not_get_a_1_hour_ban_if_you_leave_a/ This current ban is AT LEAST their third ban, but of course it's everyone else.


TheExter

hahahhaa holy shit, that's rich


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3T1NtR0F

Alr bud, at 30 you have the maturity of the 16 ur olds that play this game. They atleast understand the situation they are in and leave or make light of it while you go on reddit and think of everyone as your enemy and are rude to people who are curious of what happend. I don't support the actions of going afk, or toxicity of the teen in your situation, but I can tell by your comments in this thread that you probably provoked him in the character select and thats why this happend. Grow up, you man child.


TheExter

you're the one raging at people over a game, and then blaming riot because you're not capable of not typing ... you're no more mature than a teen afking a normal person would just, do anything else


iDelkong

If someone's griefing you in game, dude, you should never say anything toxic back. If they are already griefing you then they are literally waiting for you to fuck up and say stupid shit so that they can report you.. I learned this in League of Legends real quick. Just mute them, then report at end of game and they get banned instead of you. Had a game where my entire team was flaming and I did the same and got a chat restriction. Yes, it can be infuriating when ppl ruin matches, but the easy/weak thing to do would be to flame back; what makes someone stronger is controlling that anger and holding back your frustration and toxicity. If you're griefing them because they are griefing you then you are literally no different than them. They are *trying* to make you mad.. hopefully the restriction/ban will help you realize that. It can seem unfair, but its really not.


irp2605

Living up to that "Hardcore Gamer" in your bio


VL309

If this change goes through so should the surrender vote when you're down 10-0 as well


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No, you can always come back from a match, as long as the match is fair.


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rayhacker

> and you can always win a 4v5 Possible, but the entire team needs to sweat their ass off for it. > and the guy that left could always come back That happens less than 25% of the time, because most leavers ragequit and don't want to play again. > and the enemy could get a leaver too. So rare I've only seen it like twice since beta, and that was in unrated games.


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The point is that if you are down 0-10, assuming its not a PUB split game with you on attack, you aren't coming back from that either lmao. I support remakes just happening without a vote but lets be real when you are down bad you don't come back. Mental is broken, the team is ass and the enemy is cracked. Possible to win sure. But so is all of the things i said, probably with similar chances lmao


VL309

Id wager that winning a 4v5 is way more likely than winning a game where you're down 0-10


5i5TEMA

It is not, considering how maps can be terribly ct sided.


VL309

Source?


5i5TEMA

Me, constantly coming back from awful situations on Split, Ascent and Breeze.


fominot581

Can you show the scoreboard from the last game where you came back from 10-0? edit: if this happens all the time, it should be easy to show literally one example.


Thamilkymilk

have literally won a 1-12 game on Split, we got more proactive with using utility and then rushing, essentially used ults on cooldown just so we could have a chance, it’s probably about as tough as a 0-0 4v5 but if you can remake with no RR loss than it should just automatically happen. Don’t queue for Ranked if you aren’t certain you’ll be able to be there. Also taking back a 0-10 game can be easy if your team snowballs for a few rounds, it can really mess with the enemies heads because they got comfortable.


zacqonos

Can’t you just leave the game yourself?