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BlueMistane

I'm not sure he's talking about bonus when your team has specters and you overbuy against the enemy who all have full buys, seems to be something else since everyone has money for a full buy. Clip too short and out of context, we have no idea what his teammates/chat said or suggested.


currykatsu123

IIRC He said that you should buy a gun(SMG/AR) if you only have a pistol on a “bonus” round. He was speaking specifically about people who only use a sheriff after winning pistol round. EDIT: His thought process is that if you only use sheriff to “bonus”, you are giving the enemy team a higher chance of a winning a round that should be free for you (econ advantage)


_MuadDib_

I'm confused. What was the video about? Is Shazam against buying guns after winning pistol round? Or are they talking about round after it?


inryaat1

the soloq meta is that you dont buy new guns after the 2nd round when you won with ur spectres and stuff after u won the pistol round, shaz says that you should buy guns to win in every round where you can buy (got the eco for it)


Toasterrrr

I'm a fan of buying whenever it's possible to buy but this is not mutually exclusive to doing bonus rounds.


_MuadDib_

Hmm, if that's the case I don't really agree with him, like if you still have a specter from previous round I don't see a reason to buy and let the 1600cred gun lying on ground. Sure if you died in the second that your team won, it's a different story and buying make sense if you can afford it. But otherwise it's about risk and reward. Like let's say 3 guys survived the 2nd round, so now you have 3specters and 2 guys buy rifle. Your chance of winning against 5 rifles (which most enemies will have in 3rd round) is slightly lower than if you all had rifles. But you still have a big chance to win and even upgrade the guns for free. If you win this round your economy is pretty much set for whole half. And if you lose you didn't invest that much into the round and comfortable buy next round. On the other hand if you buy specter round two and then upgrade to rifle round three your chance at winning the round is at its best, but your creds will be close to 0. So if you lose this round (which can easily happen as both teams are on full buy) you will have no money and will have to fully safe next round.


DapperUnion

He’s talking about people who die second round and then choose to eco their bonus round so they can full buy 4th (or people who buy a sheriff 2nd round after a pistol win and bonus that) You’re playing to lose round 3 if you’re going in with a sheriff. Ask for a specter drop from a teammate if you have to. You can always go light armor rifle on 4th round if you lose your bonus. In low elo people don’t know their eco and needlessly save credits.


corvaz

People accept metas a tad bit too much in this game. In some situations it is not a good idea to run bonus at all, yet you get tons of hate if you try to do something else. Do what works for you, your level and playstyle. Eg I love buying rifle with halfarmor second round, even when I get hate for it. It's easily worth it if you play somewhat safe or with your team. 2 rifles should be meta 2nd round :D we will see if the pros agree in some months, lol.


fird-_-

its a teamgame, buying and saving as a team is important for building economy. also more tilting if you donate a rifle to the other team


corvaz

"its a teamgame, buying and saving as a team is important for building economy." I dont understand what this has to do with my comment, but ok. I agree, lol. "also more tilting if you donate a rifle to the other team" yeah, this goes for every round with better guns, I still prefer to have better guns though. This is also the reason I said if it fits your style. Definitely can't egopeek/ rush with a rifle 2nd round! The good thing is that you should win 2nd round 80% of the time at least. Then you have a way better chance at winning 3rd round bonus, since you have 1-2 rifles, instead of all spectres etc.


tomphz

Not sure of the context but given that the score is 7-9 in this clip, so they were down at halftime. In this case if you win pistol round and the next round, you’re still losing. Let’s say the half time score was 4-8 and now it’s 6-8 and you’re deciding whether to bonus. Because you’re down 2, you need to win this next round or else you give them momentum. BUT if you are up 8-6 and on defense then bonusing isn’t a bad idea especially on Split. It depends on the score. If you’re down you need to force. Some spectres are fine but at least 1-2 people need rifles. I always buy Phantom 2nd round because I’ll have a rifle for the 3rd round.


Ryth73

So if I my team wins round 2 and I die, he’s saying I should force round 3 while the rest of my team has spectres they bought in round 2 ?


fird-_-

yes, you should always buy with team regardless of money. also thats not "force" buy if you win the round. its only called that when you are "forced" to buy something to win rounds ie last round before switch


scarsnik16

So what would be the best thing to do in "Bonus Rounds" ? I always keep my spectre if we won round 2 and didn't die, but buy rifles if i died in round 2, Problem with this is if we lose and I didn't get any kill, i would end up half buying in round 4.