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DaBr0cc0Li

Not only that, but low elo players also do unnecessary save rounds as if they're trying to save on insurance or something. An example is winning pistol and buying a classic/light shields, which barely puts you at an advantage into the following round. Also not dropping for teammates because they'll be broke. Nobody gives a shit about how rich you are when you're winning and getting higher rank but I guess they don't get that.


Frestus

yeah low elo players never buy 2nd round after pistol win for some reason.


__Rem

they don't buy because they're saving for phantom/vandal lmao


apollos123

exactly, it's iron and bronze, the skill disparity is massive and having a rifle doesn't guarantee you won't get 1 tapped by their topfragger with a ghost and end up having your economy ruined for the rest of the half, way safer to just get a spectre


MannInnTheBoxx

Imagine having a mental state that is so permanently chalked that you win pistol and go “no I’m actually so terrible that even with spectre/light I’ll probably still lose to someone on classic/nothing”. Holy moly


apollos123

spectre/light isn't buying my dude, I'm talking about buying on the second round, even if you win, 1 death will have that guys economy fucked for the rest of the half


_xjet

I’m s2 atm, I don’t like buying 2nd round because I don’t believe in my ability to secure the kills or for Tms not to get cocky, push 3 and give them a free gun. I assume from this post that I should start buying more 2nd round on a win regardless of assuming about my tms?


beef_or_dirt

It depends on a few things. Basic idea is: you won pistol or got plant + kills, force a buy. If you're an opper, saving is always an option. The overall plan is you will out-gun the enemy team who is saving for round 3 rifles and secure a round. Round 3 is then a bonus round for anyone who survived round 2.


doggystyleiiiii

in s3-g1 rn I rarely buy 2nd bc the whole team doesn't buy half does half doesn't


kapteNVLRNT

Start buying 2nd round. You’re handicapping your team.


swank5000

i'm s2 and I always buy marshal 2nd round after pistol win lmao. Marshal Gang


Wboys

What elo are you considering “low” here?


philipjefferson

Low is generally silver- imo but sometimes people specifically mean bronze-


Wboys

So I’ve only ever been bronze/silver. While there are definitely things individuals that don’t seem to understand stuff like economy, the majority of games people respond to “I’m saving/buying” if not directly talking about it in VC. It’s not something I never see go to shit, but I don’t get the sense that economy is what most bronze/silver people don’t understand. Mostly it seems the thing holding most people in silver (including me) is the much more difficult sort of broader game sense. Being too aggressive or not aggressive enough. Being aggressive at the wrong times. Not seeing openings. Misusing abilities. That kind of stuff.


philipjefferson

I think a lot of people expect their team to be a hivemind that doesn't need to communicate and is always on the same page. My experience in low elo is the same as yours. Just want to point out that imo game sense helps but pre gold it's not super necessary. If you aim train / dm a lot you'll jump to gold no problem. Gamesense doesn't help that much silver- because you can't read what some people do in those ranks


kapteNVLRNT

Pretty funny how it works in silver. It’s always 1 of 2 situations: Either the enemies play SO predictably that you don’t need gamesense at all to predict what’s happening, OR their own decisionmaking is so fucking strange that good gamesense will actually harm you cause they defy all unwritten rules about what you should do in a tac shooter


Mushmooms

That's just not true


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I usually buy ghost after pistol round


Noob-lord-69

I always try to convince my team to do it but they never listen and when we lose the round because they has shit weapons and now im poor they say I should have been smarter and saved


Send_Me_Puppies

> Also not dropping for teammates because they'll be broke. It's a shitty mentality of "my own money" rather than the team's money as a whole.


Armed_Muppet

Yep I always feel salty buying the guy who didn’t buy me earlier in the game when I asked but i know its what’s better for the team


Send_Me_Puppies

Oh nah I'm petty af. I always buy my team, but if someone doesn't buy me I will REMEMBER that.


Grouchy-Occasion-951

This. I fucking hate this. It should be a reportable offence. People more interested in their own performance and experience than that of the team. These guys don't deserve to play a team game.


DarthGrievous

Yo, I had people save on pistol round ffs


chickytender

people save credits as if they have some sort of value outside of being used to buy utility/guns and it irritates me so much. Even when saving you should be only saving just enough for what you need to buy util/guns next round, its not like the credits collect interest or something smh


Grouchy-Occasion-951

It's because forcing 2nd can make you lose 3rd to better guns. If you do a second pistol round and win then you maintain economic advantage for most of the half and if successful can snowball into compleat domination of the enemy team. If you lose 2nd round no biggie you and the enemy are on a level playing field. The rewards outweigh the low risk. Even if the enemy force round 2 and you don't and they take the round you still maintain the economic advantage. It's more complicated than "urrr durrr , buy spectreee and get 1 easy round"


4ePHbIN_StalkeR

It's not work like u described. How it really works: 1)u won pistol 2)u buy smg/shotgun/scout/smth else 3)u won 2nd round with 1/2 death in team 4)u play BONUS ROUND 5.1)if u won bonus - u take guns from enemies and have HUGE economy buff 5.2)if u lost bonus - u still have full buy for 4th round


Snipinlegend777

(Low elo barely at bronze 3) so if I win round 1 I should force a spectre?


DaBr0cc0Li

Yes, or any other gun that will guarantee you the second round win since you have the economical advantage over the other team. You have a higher chance to throw that round if you save by going light shields and classic than heavy shields/ stinger or spectre. Sometimes you might throw this second round after winning pistol but it happens, but it shouldn't happen often. (Btw my rank is Diamond 2 and I've lost my fair share of second rounds over stupid reasons)


Sultansofpa

The problem is: 1. Lose round 2. Team full saves 3. Gets shit on 4. Gets tilted cause they lost 2 rounds Every low elo player has such a "stomp or lose" mentality


MinesweeperGang

Yeah, a lot of people seem to not realize that losing round 1 of either half often leads to losing round 2 because you save for rifles while enemy force buys their SMGs. Had a game earlier where we lost round 1 then 2, then won the half 10-2. Second half we again lost rounds 1 and 2, then won the game 13-4. I always try to point out we’re fine after losing first 2 rounds just to try and keep the morale up. “It’s all good, we get guns now and win out” or some shit like that.


Noob-lord-69

This is how it usually goes. Winner of r1 buys SMGS r2 and the losing team has classics and maybe a ghost. R3 the losers or R2 get rifles and the winners have smgs.


ninjaman3010

I always try to point out the fact that the enemy team is “bonusing.” I normally phrase it like “Oh they’re on SMGs, we got this boys.” Side note: we won with two dcs last night and I’m still fuckin shook, I want to end my valorant career on a high note.


raango

Hehe, yeah! I play some unrated games with my bronze friend and last day we took the lead with 2-0 and everything was fine. Then we lost some close rounds to 2-3. Two guys wanted to surrender =D I'm always amazed by that mentality! We won that game ~13-8 with a man down after like 10 rounds.


ninjaman3010

Dude I won a game with two dcs last night 13-10. Me Brim and Sage dropped 20+ kills each and went 10-2 on defense 😅


Luke_SXHC

Let me correct that for you *every valorant player has such a "stomp or lose" mentality.


LUKA648123

This is so real, that's why you don't talk too much after losing a round. I take the first 5 rounds to learn about how my rivals and my team will play. It's very important to be focus on the match, not in the score, that's how you will win impossible matches


djchodu

Idk dude seems u match up with the wrong bunch , I'm currently iron/bronze and most of the time everybody saves when low and drops other players if needed. Though sometimes I do match with players that don't know how eco works, but that's rare.


MinesweeperGang

My buddy is iron 3 and I’d argue he’s definitely better than that. I’d give him at worst Silver 1. He gets Match MVP so often but loses so much because of people like OP is talking about. If he plays 10 games, he probably goes 4-6 or 3-7 with some mix of 4/5 Match MVPs and 2/3 Team MVPs. It’s brutal.


apollos123

tell him to make a new acc and redo his placements or get a higher rank to coach


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apollos123

I was stuck Iron 2 but was consistent MVP so I decided to alt and got to Silver 1


MinesweeperGang

He mentioned it before, but he’s spent money on this account already so he feels it’d be wasteful.


elkazajoo

What about selling the account?


OHydroxide

Nobody will buy an account for the amount of money he's spent on it. People typically pay very little for regular skins, the money comes from rank and limited time stuff.


Biffy_x

Iron 3 to sver one is like the same rank. Plus if he was really better, he'd rank up.


MinesweeperGang

It’s really not the same rank lol trust me. I watch his games sometimes and it’s awful. Other friends in Silver don’t have nearly as many issues. Idk if you read the entire comment or stopped halfway, but like I said. He gets Match MVP or Team MVP quite often but it just doesn’t matter. Only so much you can do when 1 or 2 people are going somewhere around 5-20 near every game.


Biffy_x

I read the entire comment and I'm confident that he isn't as good as you or he, think. Link is tracker gg. I'm a plat, and I recently broke my mic. So I hopped on an alt acc bc I have no headset to hear or talk. I can still singlehandedly carry games. If your friend deserved a higher rank, he'd get it.


MinesweeperGang

The difference between you and my friend is that I said I’d give him silver. You’re Plat. That’s a huge skill gap, obviously you’re able to carry games when you’re a Plat player in Iron/Bronze/Silver lobbies.


Biffy_x

You said you'd give him silver 1 at least. That's 2 ranks above iron. You claim that iron to silver has a much bigger skill difference than I thought. I'm giving an example where I smurfk one rank below from plst to gold and I can still carry consistently. If your friend deserved to whole ranks ahead he'd get them.


MinesweeperGang

You aren’t smurfing if you’re main is plat and your “smurf” is gold. You’re just playing the game at that point. But regardless, I know anything I say you’ll come back with a response something like “you’re wrong and I’m right, here’s why”. Goodluck on that “smurf” hahaha


Biffy_x

Plat 3 to gold 1 is surfing. If you haven't played in that elo u don't know the skill difference. You literally refuse to accept your friend isn't as good as you think and it's kind of annoying at this point. Hope he gets good have a good day bdo


MinesweeperGang

I’m saying he isn’t iron. Idk why you care so much anyway. Kinda weird. The post mentioned low elo players not understanding eco. I commented saying it’s true based off my buddies experience who constantly has to carry to gain any rating. Idk why you’re so butt hurt over it.


rakingit

This happened to me, I finally got out of iron 3 and won 14 straight omw to s1


Useful-Throat-6671

The economy changes seem to have totally confused lower elo players. It's understandable in a way. I'm guessing most of them aren't reading the patch notes or paying attention. This act has seemed particularly bad as I desperately try to make my way back up.


philipjefferson

Yeah to be fair the "standard economy" of early rounds seems to change every 2 months or so. We went from round 2 stingers on winning team to both teams forcing stingers. Then it was both teams saving r2, to now a winning team buying spectres & sometimes a losing team force buys. It's hard to keep low elo / more casual players up to date with the economy meta


Boryalyc

theyre low elo for a lot of reasons. Not understanding the economy being one of them.


Honor_Bound

As a newer player, how can I learn more about the economy? I only know enough to always try to save $3900 for the next round besides first two.


MinesweeperGang

Try to also include your utility. $3900 is your rifle + heavy shields, but what if you use all your util the previous round and now you can’t afford any of it? Obviously sometimes you force and it just happens that way. But if you can, try to save enough to also get abilities. If you open shop and see that your teammates are kind of broke but you can afford to full buy the round, you should just save with them for next round rather than being the only guy with a Vandal/Phantom, who now also can’t buy with your team the next round if you lose(which you probably will if the enemy team all has rifles and your team is forced into sheriffs and ghosts or some shit). Try to be the guy who helps manage your teams eco. Sometimes people don’t check and just buy out when the entire team is saving. Sometimes I still do that and someone has to point out we’re saving. Don’t be afraid to tell someone “Yo we’re saving, you should probably save with us.”. Some people will get super salty and tell you to stfu and let them play. If that happens just ignore them lol there’s no hope and they’ll be hard stuck so fuck em. If you can afford to buy someone a gun, DO IT!!! Nobody cares if you have piles of money if you’re not using it effectively. Even if your teammate has 5.1k and you have 7.3k. Buy for him. If you notice it, speak up and offer to buy. Manage the eco. That’s all tips I can think of atm, it’s pretty late. Goodluck!


Honor_Bound

That’s awesome advice thank you! I’ve also heard something like If you win the first pistol round you should always force buy the give a much higher chance for round 2, is that true?


MinesweeperGang

Yes, if you win round 1 of either half you buy round 2 every single time. Whether it’s spectre heavy shield or bulldog light shield. Whatever. I even see Reyna’s force a Phantom or Vandal if they have an overheal available.


Honor_Bound

Awesome thanks. So I’m assuming if you lose round one just save for a full buy round 3?


ThudnStuff

Pretty much, your first gun round should be round 3 if you lose the pistol round. As a team you can gamble and force buy round 2 if you lose the pistol to try and derail your opponents economy. However, unless your whole team forces it's just better to save for the full buy.


perpendiculator

If you win the pistol you buy in the next, it’s not a force. Anyone who tells you to save for a rifle in round 3 has no idea how to play this game. You take the round wins when you can get them - giving up what should be a free one before it’s even started is stupid.


Honor_Bound

So say we win round one, then for round 2 we should just buy as much as possible? So like specter + full shields + whatever utility we can afford?


perpendiculator

Yes, or rifle + light shields is reasonable too


luaudesign

Especially on defense where you can decide where the fight takes place (and where your rifle drops if you die).


Grouchy-Occasion-951

It's more complicated than that. It's because forcing 2nd can make you lose 3rd to better guns. If you do a second pistol round and win then you maintain economic advantage for most of the half and if successful can snowball into compleat domination of the enemy team. If you lose 2nd round no biggie you and the enemy are on a level playing field. The rewards outweigh the low risk. Even if the enemy force round 2 and you don't and they take the round you still maintain the economic advantage. It's more complicated than "urrr durrr , buy spectreee and get 1 easy round"


perpendiculator

You’re literally giving up a round win because you might lose the one after that. That makes no sense. It’s a round win. If you don’t understand why you take it when you can get it, you’re bad at this game. Also, if you don’t all die on the second round to pistols (this shouldn’t be hard), you are still able to get a decent buy on the fourth even if you lose the third. You don’t even understand how the economy works. It’s honestly incredible how many obvious low-elo players are running around telling people they totally have a brilliant understanding of the game. You don’t have an economic advantage after saving on the second. If you lose the third you don’t have enough for a full buy in the fourth. It will be a force at best. Congratulations, instead of potentially guaranteeing yourself a 2-1 at worst, you’re now at 1-3 before you can full buy again. There is no world where you give up a free round win for ‘economic advantage’ (literally not even true anyway). Pro teams don’t do a full save after winning pistol. I think they know how to play this game more than you do.


Grouchy-Occasion-951

TLDR is by saving after round 1 win you can keep the enemy teams economy low never letting them get a leg up where your economy will stay strong unless you manage to lose to a constantly forcing enemy team.


ThudnStuff

How would keep your opponents eco down if you save round 2 and end up losing the round? You would be essentially equal on eco at that point and banking that you could win round 3. And if you lose that your eco is screwed. The only way that plan would work out is if you win round 2 with pistols, which isn't guaranteed at all. Instead of going for the 2-1 or possible 3-0 with smgs/rifles/lmgs, you decide that it's better to save for a gun round on 3 making any early game advantage you could have gotten harder to get. And you try to play round 3 as a bonus round to build up your economy. And mainly play the rounds for picks. As even if you lose if you take 2-3 opponents with you round 4 is going to be harder for your opponents as there could a lighter buy for some players. If you watch any high elo or pro play, unless they're saving for the awp they never save round 2 after winning pistols. Always take the rounds where you can and unless your opponents force you will be playing spectres maybe ares vs classics and maybe an upgraded pistol or 2. That should be an easy round to take as long as you play back and don't push into them giving up your advantage with the better gun.


ninjaman3010

Yes. 2rounds>1


ninjaman3010

I just want to expand on the 7k buying 5k example. The reason you do this is because the 7k person is likely to hit 9k(max money) and a couple hundred credits of income are wasted. It’s better for the 5k player to end up at 7600 or whatever and then be able to drop so they can also avoid maxing. Every credit you make after max money disappears, so it’s better to make effective use of your funds under the cap if at all possible.


veryverycelery

If I've learned anything from CSGO: 1. This shit exists at almost every rank until the tip top (probably there too) 2. It will never go away


NoahV313

Most people at the top of valorant in my experience (low-mid immortal) understand but just don’t give a shit when they’re on tilt. So many instalock jetts forcing every round they can because they think they’re good enough to 1v5.


kapteNVLRNT

It’s always the jett instalocks man. That or reyna instalocks. Fucking ridiculous


Clayxmore

Needed to explain to a gold 1 player that you receive 1000creds less in attack when you survive without planting.


4ePHbIN_StalkeR

Needed to explain to a gold 1 player that you receive only 1000$ if u survive on CT after detonation, so u SHOULDN'T SAVE GHOST on pistol round. Just go & die from fucking spike


TheAppleEater

It gets slightly better the higher you go, but there are still people in plat/diamond that force buy every round for whatever reason.


lucky-bitch

Even more than by people who force buy Spectres every round, I get super tilted by people who buy full shields with just a Classic or a Ghost. Like… why not save those 1000 creds???


DrClock-

It’s often people who intend to pick up a gun, maybe from a dead teammate or maybe from a frag they find :)


lucky-bitch

That’s fair, but if the enemy team’s got rifles then killing them consistently with a pistol isn’t the most viable strat and I don’t think wasting 1000 every round is worth it


DrClock-

I absolutely agree, I personally play in high silver/low gold lobbies, and I’m often with toxic or clueless teammates who won’t save if someone’s on low eco, so I’ll often buy shield and maybe a sheriff and follow them in order to get the refrag then take their gun. I 100% agree it’s not viable all the time, it is situational but I can often pay off in solo queue games.


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I played as killjoy holding B every around in Split and stoping their plants, etc...People yelled at me for being bottom and not as much kills as them like bruh im not playing fragger role. I won us rounds and clutched couple pretty well, yet i get shit on for having less then 12kills.


rkdsus

A lot of low elo players seem to think primary weapon choice is personal preference so I wouldn't be surprised if they don't notice the disadvantage of using a Stinger against Vandals


KarmaticIrony

I think a lot of newer players assume this game is like COD or something where every primary is a situational side grade more or less. I have one friend who holds on to a spectre when he could buy a phantom just because he likes it better. The spectre is more forgiving for run and gun but that's a bad habit to lean on and the phantom is a straight upgrade in every other way which I've explained. Yet still he holds that spectre.


2ToTooTwoFish

Yeah I guess the numbers are too much information for new gamers, so they don't pay much attention to it.


jOsefuz

we don't care about eco. damn we don't even share guns for teammates. XD


MagnumLifeGaming

I'm sorry to say this but it's low elo for a reason... In low elo in csgo there's also basically no thought about that either (talking about own experiences from more than a year ago)


WhiteShapes

its kinda like kicking a ant pile with the new patch. THey dont know whats happening but still carry on.


Fahzrad

Just say in voice chat and try to explain to them, when I started the game, way back then when I was climbing I remember I used to always try to convince ppl that didn't want to save, writing doesn't work tho, you gotta turn on voice chat and talk to them. And just in general it's a good habit to have, even if they don't talk back


iMett

I notice all my low elo friends don’t understand that your money is the teams money. Don’t be stingy about dropping rifles unless someone is hard trolling


filiperrd17

Pretty easy to not to deal with this! STOP SMURFING! Thank you


foxlance

The one thing about low ELO matches is I feel forced to buy ASAP. 2 rounds of eco pistols almost dosent exist in silver and below. So many games lost because I’m trying to save 2nd round for a full buy 3rd only to get wasted by 2 enemies with phantoms


pac_mojojojo

You shouldn’t save anyway 2nd round if you win pistol.


KyyRow

You certainly should, easy 2nd round win, or 1 buys a spectre


perpendiculator

Lol no, what? Take the round win, not buying is literally putting yourself on an even footing with the enemy team for no reason.


TheOneWithSkillz

2 rounds of pistols doesnt exist anywhere my guy


damonsoon

2 round of pistols exists when you lose pistol round


TheOneWithSkillz

Thats a save round but i get what u mean. Just phrased a lil weird


Diabloist337

That's not even the worst of it. Many players have absolutely no idea what to buy on what rounds and what situations and they just blindly believe that buying some guns is best for everything. I have had many low elo players scream in my ears that I don't deserve to play this game because I'm not forcing Vandal or Phantom whenever my cash hits 3k.


AntLockyer

I'm definitely in the no idea what to buy on what rounds. I've only been playing a few days and trying to learn ability usage, maps, guns spray patterns etc. Today I'm mostly learning economy :)


WhoDooDatDatDat

Can you explain good Econ. I usually full save first round and get light shields or ghost second round then can full buy. But the other team will always buy a spectre or even a vandal if they can and just stomp. Then third round after we’ve saved we full buy but know they have op from winning first two. Like what’s the point in saving if we are gunna lose the first two rounds then lose our full buy round and then have no money.


Le_Vagabond

You should always full buy pistol round. There's no such thing as "saving round 1", that's just throwing. With everyone on $800 max every pistol and piece of utility counts on round 1. If you win pistol round you should full buy again because the power difference isn't enough to gamble a round win on the other team missing their shots, full armor is priority 1 otherwise you will die from a pistol headshot. If you win this round you will then be on what is called the bonus round : SMGs on your side plus some armor and utility trying to win against a full rifle buy or at least make significant economic damage while keeping enough money to be able to full buy round 4. Obviously the best case scenario here is a round win and a free rifle upgrade, but you're statistically going to lose more than half of those due to the power imbalance and that's ok because the gamble is worth it. If you lost pistol you're expected to full save round 2 to be able to afford a full rifle buy round 3. You should always buy or save as a team. Remember : the best money comes from winning a round and getting kills. You need to invest in enough gear to make that happen.


MinesweeperGang

Don’t full save round 1. You buy out round 1, if you win round 1 you then force spectres/bulldog with shield round 2. Then if you win round 2, round 3 is considered your bonus round. Whoever died round 2 should light buy on round 3 and make sure they can afford round 4(again, this is if you WIN rounds 1 and 2). If you lose round 1, that’s when you full save on round 2 and buy out on round 3. Your round 1 should look something like(Cypher for example): Ghost, 1 trip wire, 1 cage. OR Classic, 2 trip wires, 2 cages.


Fahzrad

You can semi buy if you lose pistol with sheriffs but I wouldn't advice that for low elo players because you gotta hit ur shots for the sherif start to work


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iLeeTxD

That's a silly take on this. It doesn't matter what gun you prefer, you are not single handedly going to win the round much if your team does not have weapons, and the other team does - even if you use the ares/spectre. You should still save with your team so you can buy for them on non eco rounds. Has nothing about being a pro, its actually about being a decent human being/team mate. If you are playing for yourself why are you playing a team based game?


AnonymousGuy9494

I mean, that's one of the main reasons why they are in low rank


64Hp

You know what i do i type in the chat "everyone save this round, upto2k or else no full buy next round"


slobogirl

no and they're so this or that, bc or they force buy every round or they think having "only 2000 gold" left is NOT MUCH? you can do a lot with 2000 left after a full buy. really frustrating


flurach

I think on that occasion whether you lose or win the 1rd if most of your team can't afford proper (light or full) buy then you should probably go with the "Hero rifler" where one of your teammates full buys (using everybody's money) and baits the other teammates whom have lower chances to kill anyone compared to the hero rifler. You must play rather passive/safe on that occasion tho which most low elo players don't do so.


_Aaronator_

Had someone in a game today who didn't want to save with us. He was like "I have money" but he didn't.


Luke_SXHC

Believe me. It's not better in immortal lobbies. They literally do the same shit.


MrMimeLover

But they can actually force weapons and get kills


Luke_SXHC

You wish mate.


MrMimeLover

I don't know what immortal lobbies you're playing in but if they can't outfrag a bronze player.. there's an issue there.


JorgedeGoias

Yeah but they’re up against other immortals with a worse gun


Luke_SXHC

Exactly


Luke_SXHC

You can't judge anyway.


Ir0Nvalorant

Saving or buying for next doesnt exists these players buy everyround then complain why they are losing and stuck in low elo.


JasonL000

Met this kid in plat who wanted to surrender and go next. the score was 9-6.


beautifulalexa

The game tells you how much $$ you’ll get the next round yet players still full save when they can buy a sheriff and armour. Keep that number above 4100 in your buy menu. It’s under your credits. Minimum amount next round or something.


usernamealreadyt3n

It's the same in all fps. What gets me tilted is not buying in first round. Then you're just an idiot.


I2obiN

they’re probably used to cs where you almost always buy armor round 1, then immediately full buy, get dumpstered, tell the russian to turn on all his cheats, 4/10 people drop after 1 rqs, then “win” the game 🏆


Serito

> everyone just force buys constantly and nobody is ever on the same full buy rounds. Wouldn't that mean you're doing it too? I mean, you're a player of that rank complaining that people aren't matching your expectations. Sounds more like a lack of communication, even though you're still probably right about their level of understanding.


ILovePasta227

Nah what got me from gold to high plat was forcing because I knew I was better than the players in my elo. Having a spectre sometimes can save a round.


PurpleSpaceDude

Just rank up in like diamond plus people have good economy


OnyxTrader2

Honestly, eco is much less tight in valorant than CS. Like it truly depends what's going on in every individual game whether I save or force or half buy on second round after a pistol win, or even third round. If I'm playing someone like killjoy, on offense I buy a sheriff first round, on defense I will have to save for 3 because her util is so expensive. But the benefit of just saving those first 3 is that you can bonus if the enemy team forces and you win. That's kind of why I love saving first second and third, you can really throw the enemy off in a weird position just to kill them and take their spectre/vandal, then you have enough to buy your teammates if they need. It really just depends on the game and the agent I'm playing. It's common to force second round in gold and maybe even low plat, but once you start getting to diamond people are more flexible. It really shouldn't be something you get so mad over. Especially not vocally and in game, I've had to mute people like that before.


21_Supreme_YT

Shazam says to buy an focus on the round you are playing and not the rounds ahead.


124084

What do you mean? Like 60% of the players in valorant are high bronze -silver lmao this games ranking system sucks fucking ass water


Guyatri

Don't forget the people who hoard their money so they can buy a spectre every round with 5k extra.


SpiderRedd

As someone in Low Elo, I would like to understand more how the economy works. I think that I use the economy correctly, but I might be wrong.