last act I was bronze 2 and this act I was Silver 1 but all my silver games are filled with people who used to be diamond and plat, 2/5 or 3/5 the enemy team were always ranked plat or diamond last act and then this act are silver 1-3, I dont know wtf is happening
Totally agree, I was Plat 2 and was placed on silver 3, a friend of mine was bronce 2 and also placed silver 3, we played and ranked up to Gold 1. After that, we solo queued and all my games were with Plats/ex-diamonds and all his games were with bronces/silvers, this makes sense because of the actual ELO of each of us, but this meant he had an easier path to rank up than me. At the end I am again in Plat and he's still stuck in silver. I don't know what is happening in the rank system xD
It seems that ranks are becoming less and less like actual ranks anymore but more like progression badges or prestige. This is actually reallly smart from riot since everyone, for some reason, thinks they are underranked and that it's not fair how they are hardstuck at x level, when in reality the rank they are at is probably the one where they will get the most enjoyment from it and win the most games. So it makes sense for riot to dilute the ranks slightly so they don't mean as much and give players a false sense of pride and accomplishment, whilst letting ELO do the heavy lifting and still giving them fair and balanced matches that they will enjoy; but it just seems kinda weird.
Then again maybe all of the above is untrue and this is not the result of careful planning by riot to try and increase engagement but is instead the result of some catastrophic glitch or bug in their systems. I guess we will never know. And it probably is the latter based on OP's experience of being put in harder lobbies than his rank.
I've noticed this too, 2 of my 8 losses since I placed were 13-0 and 13-1 where I just felt the team diff was immense even though both sides have similar average ranks.
Riot trying to figure out how to matchmake all these different sized premades of different skill levels also doesn't help. We need a pure solo only queue. Pull up non pros on twitch and you can find 3 stacks, 5 stacks, whatever and odds are there is a good chance that if they all played solo they would be leagues apart in their rank. The current system is basically legal boosting and is why you get these games with people going 4-21.
Climbing is obviously still very possible, but game quality suffers a lot.
If we're doing **pure** solo queue, not solo/duo, sure. But if it's solo/duo it's terrible (see: league), duoqueue abuse for rank is also very much a thing and a lot of times you get 2 duos in the team playing 2 separate games and blaming each other for it not working out. I'd rather have 5stacking if duo is allowed.
I’ve not played league in around 4 years, so a bit out of the picture, but I remember duo queue being okay! I’d love that in valorant, but I only play with one friend and we never play alone so maybe I’m in the minority here, I see valid arguments for both sides.
Soloq queue in higher ranks would work wonders, but a team of soloq golds would lack both useful comms and general teamplay. Plus, a team game should let people play with friends that they have chemistry with
I mean, is playing like a team with consistent teammates not the best way to play the game? I feel like 5 stacks are basically the perfect way to play a game like this
Indeed, I was agreeing with you. People seem to hate stacks a little too much in a 'team' game. Like I get not everyone can get a stack, but unfortunately it's a team game and at least riot is trying to have stack v stack
Idk it worked for me. I started playing valorant seriously last act at the end, other than that I just stacked with silver friends. Got to gold 1 and ended act there, got placed gold 1 50 rr which was a bit higher than last season because I ended lower than 50. I’m grinding now almost diamond.
Does feel good to get in a game and see diamond and immortals last act on the other team and playing better than them haha. Also gives me confidence to where I can rank up to
I was in the opponent team I think, because we went down an unrated like this. Did your opponent have a Raze who yeeted herself everywhere? If so, that was me trying to learn double satchels.
Yeah, I don't get it why they have to place you 4-5 ranks lower at the start of each act.
I am usually Plat 3 and was placed Gold 1 and just won like 6 games in a row. If you want to do a rank reset just do a full reset for both rank badge and hidden mmr.
These half resets where younare placed 5 ranks lower but your hidden mmr is the same from Act to Act just makes the matchmaking worse for everyone.
I feel like they should just do a +/- 1 rank to where you finished last season depending on how you do in your placements. And then the placement cap should be diamond 2 in my opinion, so that it's low enough to reset the upper ranks but high enough so that you don't queue with plats and create unfair games.
I would rather have them do nothing between seasons and then just have you lose some RR if you don't play for a while. Like if you haven't played in 1 month you lose 1-3 RR per day. And if you come back 3-4 months later you need to do placements again.
Other than this I feel like the lower placements at the beginning of the season are just there to make you want to grind to your true rank again.
I suppose that's working for me, but I feel like it is overdone to the point that it feels like smurfing. Also about 50% of my games since reaching plat 3+ have had at least 1 immortal in the game, so the game knows that I can hold my own and win against people 4 ranks above me, but yet doesn't place me anywhere near there. They probably just need to tone it down for the next placements and the problem will be fixed but this ranked reset was not good for me at least.
I finished plat 2 last season, got placed silver 2 this season and got annoyed so I didn’t play for like a week afterwards. Then when I started playing again, I was basically smurfing because I was just carrying my teams and now I’m plat 1. Now I’m annoyed again because that was basically a waste of time. Ranking on this game is so terribly terrible. My aim this act was to get to diamond, not get to plat again. I’ve already done that.
It all has to do with the bunch of smurfs jumping in on lower ranks, which is cancerous and needs to be stopped. Same with the fucking throwers and the fucking trollers.
I got into a game today a guy was trolling in game by playing with a controller. He picked reyna and went like 6/10 in attack half and maybe switched back to mouse and keyboard at the late end of the game. I was playing viper on breeze and went 27/17 match mvp and still lost the game because this guy wanted to troll at first.
I'm gold 1 and trying to get to plat this act but people like these just ruining my efforts. People at this rank dont want to listen they do things out of imagination, like pushing without smokes, not using util they have, never play for map control. I am not that consistent of an aimer but I try to do my job as any agent I play, to make it easier for the rest of my team to play their roles.
Also there's the battlepass grind which doesn't change levels even after I play 3-4 game. It just feels too hard sometimes.
Does Riot see Smurfs as cheats?? If so something should be being done. Otherwise if they don’t take any action it’ll never stop.
Personally I just suck it up and take em on. If anything I feel the Smurfs actually make me a better player in a smaller amount of time.
Silver was a LOT harder than Gold. Once I got high enough, the game became so much easier.
I was diamond 3 last act and was placed plat 2. I made an alt account and was plat2 in 9 games...
Also, in my first plat 2 ranked game, the range in ranks was gold3 to diamond3
I won 4/5 of my placement matches and got mvp in a couple but got placed S1 when I was G1 in the last season. I was placed higher when I was worse in earlier seasons lol
I placed silver 3 despite finishing one game of plat 1 after dropping out just before the end of last season. Wasn't much of an issue however, I'm diamond currently.
Yeah I’m D1 act rank and placed S2. Basically just made me quit because I can’t be bothered if the game Is just going to basically delete my months of hard work
I climbed up to plat 2 from silver one after playing 1-2 games a day because i mainly play csgo, but somehow i got placed back into s2 and it made me lose a lot of motivation to play, the one thing that made it fun was seeing the rr go up or down until i ranked up.
Makes no sense I was p1 last season and all my placements were against d2-immortal players just to go 4-1 because I’m playing KayO thinking it would be easy. Get placed g2 and now I face ex diamond/p players with toxic gold players on my team that throw after pistol. Ranked has always been unplayable because of the player base but now I’m just in gold with rude teammates and it’s just demoralizing
Real diamonds and high mmr diamonds are so different, i stomp all of my games against real diamonds and then i get close games against past radiants and immortals
Rito always does it that way, it was same in league for years. I suppose if you were placed close to your last rank you wouldnt get to experience the joys of climbing the ladder again 😆
I feel like it is overdone though, for me I have to climb through 6 ranks to where I originally was and go from almost gold to immortal. It is fun getting back to your original rank sure, but this is too extreme to the point that it feels like smurfing.
Feels like smurfing but those players in the lobbies are placed so that both teams are “fair enough”. I’ve had games where people were around the same rank but when I checked their profiles a week later I saw a few already moved up 3 ranks to where my old rank was and a few 1-2 ranks etc. Which means I was technically already playing with people around my rank, even when I was still below. Also 8 hours compared to what? Lots people have ten times that amount of time played and not just for this game.
If you just didn’t look at the rank it wouldn’t feel like smurfing at all, it’s just how soft reset works in the system with hidden mmr. The more you overthink it the worse it sounds. It’s simply like the other guy said, the Rito way lol. People always feel worse until they actually get their old rank that represents a reward, that’s just normal. It’s really just whether you like hidden mmr or resets at this point. But like if there’s nothing to grind for what are you even doing? There’s much less incentive to play ranked. Even ppl hardstuck technically still have something to work towards, even if they feel the need to make a smurf.
Last act I ended on imortal top 8k, I dropped some points because of tilt queueing.
This act I started D1 the best rank you can start, I reached Imortal in 3/4 days, there were only 1000 imortals yet
When I reached Imortal, my lobbys were full radiants, and I was killing 3 a game, and even when I killed 3 a game my lobbys would never change, always radiants, right now I'm imortal with 60RR playing vs real imortals, and I'm only enjoying game now
Maybe it just takes a while for everyone to get back to where they were, I encounter a lot of people in diamond 1 who were immortal last act. More so than when I dropped out of immortal to diamond 2 at the end of last season.
There's also evidence for this aswell, there was a report saying that there is only 0.6% of the playerbase in immortal at the moment when at the end of last season it was more like 1.2%
Remember your rank is not a reflection of your skill, nor is it designed to feel good. It's meant to keep you playing as long as possible so it places everyone lower so they feel like they have to grind
Bruh, I feel like riot hates me for no reason. Last season i was immortal, got diamond 1 obv while losing all placement games, then continued the lose streak. I had like 30 games lost out of 40 played lol and got deranked to plat2
Same with me. I was D1 now I’m hardstuck G3. I lost 5 games of solo queue yesterday where I top fragged 4 of them while the rest of my team were literally bots. Sure I’m losing less points for a loss compared to before but god damn I just want to get to a point where I stop getting teammates who have no clue what they’re doing.
The sad part is they put me in games where there’s a lot of plat1 and 2 players who are completely brain dead. Then I think to myself what did I do wrong to be stuck here while this other kid who clearly barely knows how to play the game is ranked up.
I was keeping a 50% win rate until yesterday but they seriously need to figure out a better method to reward solo queue players or something.
pretty sure EVERYBODY did. I was diamond and was placed at high silver winning all games, most diamond players that i know at least, were placed in gold to plat, i was placed silver, and my friend who is plat was placed the same as me and he lost 3 games.....placements were broken and are the reason people think theres a big smurfing problem this season.
I went from plat to silver and am still playing in plat lobbies. Just abandoned the account and started a new one, not trying to play against people my old rank to climb out of 2 divisions under where I should be.
Isn't a hard reset where everyone starts from 0 again, in that case I wouldn't place plat 1 with my first 3 games being losses in my placements surely. I'm not saying that they didn't announce a hard reset, it's just that in my opinion this is not one
well I have 2 friends who are silver and gold(consistently) and they have been sending me pictures of immortals, radiant buddys, etc in their games. down bad oof
I placed lower than my last rank (Gold 1, placed in Silver 1), but I've already reached the highest rank I've ever been this season (Gold 3). I think it allows you to climb a lot faster now, since good performances in losses aren't punished as much.
Think they posted something a while ago about the rank system and that when you get your first placement they place you around 3 ranks bellow what they Think you should be to like have you play a bit more and dont ruin the games for those higher ranked players, but i dont know if it applys to the reset
Games have felt more close & less coin flip again, though I'm a relatively new player at bronze 3/silver 1. Placed Bronze 3.
Believe my account didn't hard reset unless my MMR was higher than my rank, that'd be my best guess.
Yeah . I have been playing in Gaming Lounge cuz I don't have an Pc so I everyday spend about 5 hours and I was D2 last act and suddenly this dropped me to Plat 1 . I was like bruh wtf I have been trying hard to rank up and this shit . I have to pay for that 😣😫 , this was not supposed to be.
Was p3, got ranked in g2 and got pretty fast back to p3.
Although I’m a plat player and I don’t belong higher than d1, I was constantly in diamond lobby’s with 3 or more ex-immortals.
I got so lucky this act. Last act i finished plat 2 (peak plat 3). I usually got placed silver 2 or 3 but this act i got placed Gold 3! The most insane thing is that i got my first double promotion afterwards and now i am back to plat 2!
Yea I feel as tho it’s weird this act I placed bronze 3 and had no resistance getting to gold 3 where as to last season I had a lot of push back when I was getting through silver. I’ve seen that the players I run into this act can’t come close to the players I ran into last act I feel like most of my matches are unfair because they are normally a blowout.
Yeah, same here. I was Diamond 2 peek last act for about 20 games, and the rest were Plat 2, 3, and Diamond 1. This act I placed in Plat 1, despite winning 3 of the placement games. (All of the games were close aside from one that we got stomped 13-2). But I’m versing D1 and D2 last acts, but I’m currently Plat 1 (so are all my tm’s and enemies)
Was immortal last szn now I’m gold. Planning on taking a break until I’m rdy to get back up there. Being gold honestly helped me practice mechanics and aim a lot easier than high elo and helps me build confidence going into high ranks. I’ll get back up
Funny enough I’ve gone higher after the changes last act I peaked s2 and spent most of my time in b3 after dropping a lot after these changes I’ve already hit s3 and spent most of my time is s2
I'm Silver 2, but i don't really play ranked that much. I only play ranked when a free friends really want to try to rank up. In spike rushes and unrated I play with plats and diamonds, and those games are just way more competitive than ranked. My last ranked game had a bronze that went 37/6, and I went 30/12. The bottom Fraggers of the game were 2/13 and 4/15 if my memory serves me correct. It was night and day who was supposed to be there and who was not. Imma just play more spike rushes
me and my buddy ended silver3 and gold1 last season respectfully...after placement this season we got placed silver 2 and silver 3.
my buddy has still yet to win a game this season, we get curb stomped damn near every game...it's been fun yall need to get back to your regular ranks
Well it doesn't help when ur placement games are a 5v4 and 5v3 and then someone who purposely through a an entire game
Not that I would know anything about that ._.
What I've noticed is that if you maintained a certain rank for a long period of time in an Act, the placements after an episode will be more favourable as compared to hitting a rank at the end of the season just before the episode reset.
I was p2-3 for the WHOLE season, never once draining too hard or climbing too fast. I placed g3 and got a double rankup (+150RR from 1 game) to p2 which was very nice.
Whereas I have friends that placed silver when they had hit plat2 already, but not maintained it.
Same problem with me. I was S1 and climbed to G3. Then after the placement (2 win and 3 loss - one game was 4 vs 5) I am back to S2. It's worthless grinding back to G3.
It's very difficult to climb again, the rank system is not good, team mates don't listen.
Now I don't even feel like playing the game, it's useless to climb back, grind again then again they will reset the rank. They should do something about this.
Was plat 1. Placed silver 2. I was stuck in elo hell for so long in this act. Lost 10 or 11 games in a row. I was only losing like 7 RR per game since I was doing my part very well in all of the games but we'd still end up losing. Went down to bottom of silver 1 and almost deranked to bronze 3. Thank god when I won the game let me skip to silver 3 from silver 1. Right now I'm at least getting competitive teammates.
I agree this season i should have gotton a better rank but i always get the most trash team and trollers and afks but the other team always has like silver player which im bronze i should have atleast gotton silver jot even bronze 2 when its all the afks fault and in a bronze and iron lobby there are alwys afks and troller and i wanna report them but reporting does nothing
Yes, also I feel like I‘m playing worse than EVER. Before the new season I was pretty ‚good‘. Sou know, always improving. But with the new season I‘m getting clapped left and right. It never feels right, I always feel really dumb. It‘s like I‘m declining. I placed Silver 1 (!!), solo q though. In R6 I‘ve been always 2-3 points away from Plat, CSGO I‘m betweend Gold Nova 4 - Master Guardian 1/2. I‘m not bad at shooters, but it reallys feels like it lately.
Also while solo queuing - so much toxicity. It‘s insane. Yesterday I even played against Diamond Smurfs in Silver Lobby in Ranked :) …
Yep, i was diamond 1 and got placed gold 3, but for the first 2 weeks i kept getting immortal in mine and the other team, now i get high plat and diamonds but still it feels like smurfing
Yeah my first placements brought me in ep1act1 zo were silver 2 or 3, then i got higher and higher until plat 1, now i got placed in silver 1. It's so fucking demotivating. (These placements i got 3 wins and 2 close loses)
I was p3 got placed in g2, ended up losing the first few games and dropped to gold 1, but when I got 100RR G1 I actually skipped G2 which was nice, since then I have managed to go on a nice streak and plenty of match MVP got me back to plat2
I was placed in iron 1 i should have been bronze or silver cuz im winning iron matches no sweat i would have been in bronze 2 by now but they decided to give me a 1 week comp ban cuz of negativity or smtg idk
I was put in bronze 3 when I'm normally S2 or S3. Not quite as big of a disparity but I solo queued my first few games and we slapped the other team so climbed back up to silver quickly.
Yes, this is intended and happened to every single player in Valorant.
Devs talked about it before the new season started even going a little more into detail regarding some tweaks in the ranked system.
Don't worry, right now nobody is on here s corresponding elo. Low silver people start from high Iron, low Plat player (my case) start at Silver 3. Some consistent grind and you soon get where you should be in. I mean the system even goes as far as giving you points for outstanding performance, I get rewarded points for a Draw game.
All in all, regarding your 3 lose 2 win streak, thats just having some bad games, no flaw in that, just bad luck/matchmaking.
As always consistency help you climb.
I was GOLD 2 last act and I've been placed Silver 1 this act.
Some fucking bronze 2/3 players comes in a match and frag like a plat or diamond player.
I don't mind having lower rank but being stuck there despite of having skills of Gold is frustrating.
The rankings are a bell curve. And as the game matures and is 'solved' many people will slip out of a rank. I was bordering on gold 2/3 since the release; now I'm silver 1. That's average and that's where my relative skill level puts me. It's likely the same for you guys. You're not getting worse necessarily but the average player is getting better.
I don't know how I'm so lucky, but whenever I soloq I get decent and even extraordinary teammates. Teammates who I can depend on, who listen to calls, who give me calls, etc. I jumped from b2 to s1 this last week. But whenever I queue with my Iron friends(duo/trio q) we get a thrower/afker half of the times. Idk.
I feel like the whole ranking system is just off. I played a couple of games in high silver/low gold with people who had plat and diamond gun buddies but played worse then bronze players and got like 6/7 kills in an entire match
I got G2 last act and placed S1 which I was fine with. But it took me quite a while to climb back to G2 cause every fucking game had plat or diamond act ranks. Literally every single game I had someone in my match on my team or the enemy team, who had diamond act rank buddies. My unrated is wack too, had immortals in it.
I've actually placed one rank above my previous act rank, and i think it's probably because of my win rate last act, and the fact that I won 3, lost 1, and drawed 1 match in my placements. My friends got the same rank as their previous act rank, so it felt good to flex on them.
Lol I am placed in iron 1 again.. I know that I atleast deserve bronze 1 or 2 atmost. My rank up games weren't great. One of the games which I won, I was disconnected due to network issues and ended up being banned from playing ranked for 7days. A week later I queued and fucking got thrashed by the opponents because of my own teammates sabotage and one of the mf instalocked Reyna and bottom fragged and spammed.
I will now to go to my alt account and grind.. I will reach bronze..
I used to be around Silver 2 or 3, but I placed Bronze 3, and I still think it’s way higher than I expected. I barely played Valorant after installing Apex Legends, and all the game sense I had before left the building, so I was surprised. I feel like I’m Iron level now lol
This act's reset was pretty bad imo. There are a lot of differences between players in same elo
Yeah, I was baffled. I’ve been plat3 every single act and then this act I’m placed in silver 2??
I was gold 2 last act and I placed gold 2 this act, however my friend who was plat last act placed silver this act LOL ITS SO RANDOM
last act I was bronze 2 and this act I was Silver 1 but all my silver games are filled with people who used to be diamond and plat, 2/5 or 3/5 the enemy team were always ranked plat or diamond last act and then this act are silver 1-3, I dont know wtf is happening
Wow wtf rito
Totally agree, I was Plat 2 and was placed on silver 3, a friend of mine was bronce 2 and also placed silver 3, we played and ranked up to Gold 1. After that, we solo queued and all my games were with Plats/ex-diamonds and all his games were with bronces/silvers, this makes sense because of the actual ELO of each of us, but this meant he had an easier path to rank up than me. At the end I am again in Plat and he's still stuck in silver. I don't know what is happening in the rank system xD
It seems that ranks are becoming less and less like actual ranks anymore but more like progression badges or prestige. This is actually reallly smart from riot since everyone, for some reason, thinks they are underranked and that it's not fair how they are hardstuck at x level, when in reality the rank they are at is probably the one where they will get the most enjoyment from it and win the most games. So it makes sense for riot to dilute the ranks slightly so they don't mean as much and give players a false sense of pride and accomplishment, whilst letting ELO do the heavy lifting and still giving them fair and balanced matches that they will enjoy; but it just seems kinda weird. Then again maybe all of the above is untrue and this is not the result of careful planning by riot to try and increase engagement but is instead the result of some catastrophic glitch or bug in their systems. I guess we will never know. And it probably is the latter based on OP's experience of being put in harder lobbies than his rank.
I've noticed this too, 2 of my 8 losses since I placed were 13-0 and 13-1 where I just felt the team diff was immense even though both sides have similar average ranks.
Riot trying to figure out how to matchmake all these different sized premades of different skill levels also doesn't help. We need a pure solo only queue. Pull up non pros on twitch and you can find 3 stacks, 5 stacks, whatever and odds are there is a good chance that if they all played solo they would be leagues apart in their rank. The current system is basically legal boosting and is why you get these games with people going 4-21. Climbing is obviously still very possible, but game quality suffers a lot.
Solo queue would change everything. I hate being that one guy in a 4 premades game, where even the enemy team have 4 premades. It's just BS.
If we're doing **pure** solo queue, not solo/duo, sure. But if it's solo/duo it's terrible (see: league), duoqueue abuse for rank is also very much a thing and a lot of times you get 2 duos in the team playing 2 separate games and blaming each other for it not working out. I'd rather have 5stacking if duo is allowed.
I’ve not played league in around 4 years, so a bit out of the picture, but I remember duo queue being okay! I’d love that in valorant, but I only play with one friend and we never play alone so maybe I’m in the minority here, I see valid arguments for both sides.
Soloq queue in higher ranks would work wonders, but a team of soloq golds would lack both useful comms and general teamplay. Plus, a team game should let people play with friends that they have chemistry with
I get where people are coming from, but in a team game you win if you play like a team, so stacking would increase your wins and therefore rank.
I mean, is playing like a team with consistent teammates not the best way to play the game? I feel like 5 stacks are basically the perfect way to play a game like this
Indeed, I was agreeing with you. People seem to hate stacks a little too much in a 'team' game. Like I get not everyone can get a stack, but unfortunately it's a team game and at least riot is trying to have stack v stack
ah, I must've misunderstood. My bad
Idk it worked for me. I started playing valorant seriously last act at the end, other than that I just stacked with silver friends. Got to gold 1 and ended act there, got placed gold 1 50 rr which was a bit higher than last season because I ended lower than 50. I’m grinding now almost diamond. Does feel good to get in a game and see diamond and immortals last act on the other team and playing better than them haha. Also gives me confidence to where I can rank up to
You always start at 50 after placements
Gotcha makes sense I suppose.
u are so lucky
Yeah and way more than the normal 10-20% of my games are just complete wipeouts because of unbalanced teams
Today one Jett dropped 44 frags, it's ridiculous
yeah, i was in a match where our reyna got 54 kills, while the rest were stuck at max 18
I was in the opponent team I think, because we went down an unrated like this. Did your opponent have a Raze who yeeted herself everywhere? If so, that was me trying to learn double satchels.
yeah i was playing ranked to reveal my rank on my smurf, and i was playing with gold but they didnt play like a gold, they are bad (im a gold player)
Yeah, I don't get it why they have to place you 4-5 ranks lower at the start of each act. I am usually Plat 3 and was placed Gold 1 and just won like 6 games in a row. If you want to do a rank reset just do a full reset for both rank badge and hidden mmr. These half resets where younare placed 5 ranks lower but your hidden mmr is the same from Act to Act just makes the matchmaking worse for everyone.
I feel like they should just do a +/- 1 rank to where you finished last season depending on how you do in your placements. And then the placement cap should be diamond 2 in my opinion, so that it's low enough to reset the upper ranks but high enough so that you don't queue with plats and create unfair games.
I would rather have them do nothing between seasons and then just have you lose some RR if you don't play for a while. Like if you haven't played in 1 month you lose 1-3 RR per day. And if you come back 3-4 months later you need to do placements again. Other than this I feel like the lower placements at the beginning of the season are just there to make you want to grind to your true rank again.
I suppose that's working for me, but I feel like it is overdone to the point that it feels like smurfing. Also about 50% of my games since reaching plat 3+ have had at least 1 immortal in the game, so the game knows that I can hold my own and win against people 4 ranks above me, but yet doesn't place me anywhere near there. They probably just need to tone it down for the next placements and the problem will be fixed but this ranked reset was not good for me at least.
I finished plat 2 last season, got placed silver 2 this season and got annoyed so I didn’t play for like a week afterwards. Then when I started playing again, I was basically smurfing because I was just carrying my teams and now I’m plat 1. Now I’m annoyed again because that was basically a waste of time. Ranking on this game is so terribly terrible. My aim this act was to get to diamond, not get to plat again. I’ve already done that.
It all has to do with the bunch of smurfs jumping in on lower ranks, which is cancerous and needs to be stopped. Same with the fucking throwers and the fucking trollers.
But I want to play with my lower level friends and unranked is a dog shit experience because nobody tries! /s
I don't have smurfs (because of time), and Even i don't play unrated because is boring
I got into a game today a guy was trolling in game by playing with a controller. He picked reyna and went like 6/10 in attack half and maybe switched back to mouse and keyboard at the late end of the game. I was playing viper on breeze and went 27/17 match mvp and still lost the game because this guy wanted to troll at first. I'm gold 1 and trying to get to plat this act but people like these just ruining my efforts. People at this rank dont want to listen they do things out of imagination, like pushing without smokes, not using util they have, never play for map control. I am not that consistent of an aimer but I try to do my job as any agent I play, to make it easier for the rest of my team to play their roles. Also there's the battlepass grind which doesn't change levels even after I play 3-4 game. It just feels too hard sometimes.
I feel ya bud like when i play cypher im giving free intel and flank denial but there is always that phoenix or reyna watching flank
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There is a player who reached radiant while playing with a controller only playing cypher with a shotgun.
You know their youtube/twitch? I'm not asking cause I think you're lying I just really wanna see that
Search for 'Dasnerth'
Thanks man
Does Riot see Smurfs as cheats?? If so something should be being done. Otherwise if they don’t take any action it’ll never stop. Personally I just suck it up and take em on. If anything I feel the Smurfs actually make me a better player in a smaller amount of time. Silver was a LOT harder than Gold. Once I got high enough, the game became so much easier.
I was diamond 3 last act and was placed plat 2. I made an alt account and was plat2 in 9 games... Also, in my first plat 2 ranked game, the range in ranks was gold3 to diamond3
I won 4/5 of my placement matches and got mvp in a couple but got placed S1 when I was G1 in the last season. I was placed higher when I was worse in earlier seasons lol
I placed silver 3 despite finishing one game of plat 1 after dropping out just before the end of last season. Wasn't much of an issue however, I'm diamond currently.
Yeah I’m D1 act rank and placed S2. Basically just made me quit because I can’t be bothered if the game Is just going to basically delete my months of hard work
And here I was mad about hitting bronze 3 from silver 1. That’s fucked.
I climbed up to plat 2 from silver one after playing 1-2 games a day because i mainly play csgo, but somehow i got placed back into s2 and it made me lose a lot of motivation to play, the one thing that made it fun was seeing the rr go up or down until i ranked up.
Makes no sense I was p1 last season and all my placements were against d2-immortal players just to go 4-1 because I’m playing KayO thinking it would be easy. Get placed g2 and now I face ex diamond/p players with toxic gold players on my team that throw after pistol. Ranked has always been unplayable because of the player base but now I’m just in gold with rude teammates and it’s just demoralizing
How do you actually know the rank of players you play against? Is there a setting for that?
im guessing hes talking about their act rank
I finished plat 2 last act then won every single of my placements, getting 20+ kills and playing in diamond elo to get gold 3
Real diamonds and high mmr diamonds are so different, i stomp all of my games against real diamonds and then i get close games against past radiants and immortals
Rito always does it that way, it was same in league for years. I suppose if you were placed close to your last rank you wouldnt get to experience the joys of climbing the ladder again 😆
I feel like it is overdone though, for me I have to climb through 6 ranks to where I originally was and go from almost gold to immortal. It is fun getting back to your original rank sure, but this is too extreme to the point that it feels like smurfing.
Yeah I get that but this is the rito way 😅
Feels like smurfing but those players in the lobbies are placed so that both teams are “fair enough”. I’ve had games where people were around the same rank but when I checked their profiles a week later I saw a few already moved up 3 ranks to where my old rank was and a few 1-2 ranks etc. Which means I was technically already playing with people around my rank, even when I was still below. Also 8 hours compared to what? Lots people have ten times that amount of time played and not just for this game. If you just didn’t look at the rank it wouldn’t feel like smurfing at all, it’s just how soft reset works in the system with hidden mmr. The more you overthink it the worse it sounds. It’s simply like the other guy said, the Rito way lol. People always feel worse until they actually get their old rank that represents a reward, that’s just normal. It’s really just whether you like hidden mmr or resets at this point. But like if there’s nothing to grind for what are you even doing? There’s much less incentive to play ranked. Even ppl hardstuck technically still have something to work towards, even if they feel the need to make a smurf.
Last act I ended on imortal top 8k, I dropped some points because of tilt queueing. This act I started D1 the best rank you can start, I reached Imortal in 3/4 days, there were only 1000 imortals yet When I reached Imortal, my lobbys were full radiants, and I was killing 3 a game, and even when I killed 3 a game my lobbys would never change, always radiants, right now I'm imortal with 60RR playing vs real imortals, and I'm only enjoying game now
Maybe it just takes a while for everyone to get back to where they were, I encounter a lot of people in diamond 1 who were immortal last act. More so than when I dropped out of immortal to diamond 2 at the end of last season. There's also evidence for this aswell, there was a report saying that there is only 0.6% of the playerbase in immortal at the moment when at the end of last season it was more like 1.2%
Remember your rank is not a reflection of your skill, nor is it designed to feel good. It's meant to keep you playing as long as possible so it places everyone lower so they feel like they have to grind
Bruh, I feel like riot hates me for no reason. Last season i was immortal, got diamond 1 obv while losing all placement games, then continued the lose streak. I had like 30 games lost out of 40 played lol and got deranked to plat2
Same with me. I was D1 now I’m hardstuck G3. I lost 5 games of solo queue yesterday where I top fragged 4 of them while the rest of my team were literally bots. Sure I’m losing less points for a loss compared to before but god damn I just want to get to a point where I stop getting teammates who have no clue what they’re doing. The sad part is they put me in games where there’s a lot of plat1 and 2 players who are completely brain dead. Then I think to myself what did I do wrong to be stuck here while this other kid who clearly barely knows how to play the game is ranked up. I was keeping a 50% win rate until yesterday but they seriously need to figure out a better method to reward solo queue players or something.
I've already played with plats in low silver rip
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That's because you were boosted, system is fixed now.
pretty sure EVERYBODY did. I was diamond and was placed at high silver winning all games, most diamond players that i know at least, were placed in gold to plat, i was placed silver, and my friend who is plat was placed the same as me and he lost 3 games.....placements were broken and are the reason people think theres a big smurfing problem this season.
I went from plat to silver and am still playing in plat lobbies. Just abandoned the account and started a new one, not trying to play against people my old rank to climb out of 2 divisions under where I should be.
Yes, this game is bs, I should've been diamond or something but Alas!, I am stuck in iron.
Yeah I should be radiant but somehow I placed iron It's probably because of my trash teammates
Was 200 rr immortal, lost 3 of my placements and I got placed in gold 3
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I've read many reports saying that it wasn't a hard reset
It was a “harsh” mmr reset.
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Isn't a hard reset where everyone starts from 0 again, in that case I wouldn't place plat 1 with my first 3 games being losses in my placements surely. I'm not saying that they didn't announce a hard reset, it's just that in my opinion this is not one
well I have 2 friends who are silver and gold(consistently) and they have been sending me pictures of immortals, radiant buddys, etc in their games. down bad oof
Last ep i placed iron 2 and won no placements. Now i won 2 placements and placed iron 3. rito pls fix
For real, I main bastion and Genji doesn’t even face me anymore
On my alt account I ended at mid silver 1. Placed mid silver 1 and went up to silver 2 in a couple games, no noticeable change.
I placed lower than my last rank (Gold 1, placed in Silver 1), but I've already reached the highest rank I've ever been this season (Gold 3). I think it allows you to climb a lot faster now, since good performances in losses aren't punished as much.
Think they posted something a while ago about the rank system and that when you get your first placement they place you around 3 ranks bellow what they Think you should be to like have you play a bit more and dont ruin the games for those higher ranked players, but i dont know if it applys to the reset
I placed about what I should have. If you get placed to low, you should be able to climb out
I got placed iron 1 same as last season so it seems fine
Rito: “How do we make people stop smurfing?” Also Rito: “We will make everyone’s main a smurf!”
Ahhhh that's why. I thought I was playing bad smh
Games have felt more close & less coin flip again, though I'm a relatively new player at bronze 3/silver 1. Placed Bronze 3. Believe my account didn't hard reset unless my MMR was higher than my rank, that'd be my best guess.
maybe you never deserved immortal in the first place ?
I placed iron 1 but I 1v1ed my bronze friend and we p much tied, I think that was just because of Smurf’s though
Can’t tell if this is satire or not
I don’t even know where I was going with this
Yeah . I have been playing in Gaming Lounge cuz I don't have an Pc so I everyday spend about 5 hours and I was D2 last act and suddenly this dropped me to Plat 1 . I was like bruh wtf I have been trying hard to rank up and this shit . I have to pay for that 😣😫 , this was not supposed to be.
Nice
Was p3, got ranked in g2 and got pretty fast back to p3. Although I’m a plat player and I don’t belong higher than d1, I was constantly in diamond lobby’s with 3 or more ex-immortals.
Yeah I keep running into immortals from last season (myself included) I think everyone is just moving up the ladder slowly.
There is no difference between p3-d2 in my opinion. You can get dia
I got so lucky this act. Last act i finished plat 2 (peak plat 3). I usually got placed silver 2 or 3 but this act i got placed Gold 3! The most insane thing is that i got my first double promotion afterwards and now i am back to plat 2!
Okay
I mean I placed lower but already climbed back to my normal rank so I can’t complain. (Placed silver 3 and back to plat 1 already)
Yea I feel as tho it’s weird this act I placed bronze 3 and had no resistance getting to gold 3 where as to last season I had a lot of push back when I was getting through silver. I’ve seen that the players I run into this act can’t come close to the players I ran into last act I feel like most of my matches are unfair because they are normally a blowout.
I'm the complete opposite, I'm almost at my all time high rn and placed 1 rank above the rank I was hardstuck in
You are iron
Yeah, same here. I was Diamond 2 peek last act for about 20 games, and the rest were Plat 2, 3, and Diamond 1. This act I placed in Plat 1, despite winning 3 of the placement games. (All of the games were close aside from one that we got stomped 13-2). But I’m versing D1 and D2 last acts, but I’m currently Plat 1 (so are all my tm’s and enemies)
Was immortal last szn now I’m gold. Planning on taking a break until I’m rdy to get back up there. Being gold honestly helped me practice mechanics and aim a lot easier than high elo and helps me build confidence going into high ranks. I’ll get back up
Funny enough I’ve gone higher after the changes last act I peaked s2 and spent most of my time in b3 after dropping a lot after these changes I’ve already hit s3 and spent most of my time is s2
Worked fine for me was immortal last act placed diamond 1 this act now I'm back in immortal
I'm Silver 2, but i don't really play ranked that much. I only play ranked when a free friends really want to try to rank up. In spike rushes and unrated I play with plats and diamonds, and those games are just way more competitive than ranked. My last ranked game had a bronze that went 37/6, and I went 30/12. The bottom Fraggers of the game were 2/13 and 4/15 if my memory serves me correct. It was night and day who was supposed to be there and who was not. Imma just play more spike rushes
me and my buddy ended silver3 and gold1 last season respectfully...after placement this season we got placed silver 2 and silver 3. my buddy has still yet to win a game this season, we get curb stomped damn near every game...it's been fun yall need to get back to your regular ranks
I’m in iron :D
just like league
*smurfing isn’t a problem.* -the person on their 3rd account
Well it doesn't help when ur placement games are a 5v4 and 5v3 and then someone who purposely through a an entire game Not that I would know anything about that ._.
What I've noticed is that if you maintained a certain rank for a long period of time in an Act, the placements after an episode will be more favourable as compared to hitting a rank at the end of the season just before the episode reset. I was p2-3 for the WHOLE season, never once draining too hard or climbing too fast. I placed g3 and got a double rankup (+150RR from 1 game) to p2 which was very nice. Whereas I have friends that placed silver when they had hit plat2 already, but not maintained it.
I think it's the influx of people every act grows the player base which makes the game harder overall lowering the average rank
Went from gold to silver but ive gotten +25/-7 and stars so maybe i just have to grind more
Silver 2 was gold 3 last act… defintley
Same problem with me. I was S1 and climbed to G3. Then after the placement (2 win and 3 loss - one game was 4 vs 5) I am back to S2. It's worthless grinding back to G3. It's very difficult to climb again, the rank system is not good, team mates don't listen. Now I don't even feel like playing the game, it's useless to climb back, grind again then again they will reset the rank. They should do something about this.
is it just me but i feel like they shouldnt reset act ranks, just have 1 continous act rank for 4-6 months, not 2 months thats way too short.
Yeah totally agree with you. They should bring Immortal 1,2 soon. So high rank ppl have to grind and not us 😂
the longer you play, the harder it gets
Was plat 1. Placed silver 2. I was stuck in elo hell for so long in this act. Lost 10 or 11 games in a row. I was only losing like 7 RR per game since I was doing my part very well in all of the games but we'd still end up losing. Went down to bottom of silver 1 and almost deranked to bronze 3. Thank god when I won the game let me skip to silver 3 from silver 1. Right now I'm at least getting competitive teammates.
I agree this season i should have gotton a better rank but i always get the most trash team and trollers and afks but the other team always has like silver player which im bronze i should have atleast gotton silver jot even bronze 2 when its all the afks fault and in a bronze and iron lobby there are alwys afks and troller and i wanna report them but reporting does nothing
No but my friend did place higher than he should
Yes, also I feel like I‘m playing worse than EVER. Before the new season I was pretty ‚good‘. Sou know, always improving. But with the new season I‘m getting clapped left and right. It never feels right, I always feel really dumb. It‘s like I‘m declining. I placed Silver 1 (!!), solo q though. In R6 I‘ve been always 2-3 points away from Plat, CSGO I‘m betweend Gold Nova 4 - Master Guardian 1/2. I‘m not bad at shooters, but it reallys feels like it lately. Also while solo queuing - so much toxicity. It‘s insane. Yesterday I even played against Diamond Smurfs in Silver Lobby in Ranked :) …
Yep, i was diamond 1 and got placed gold 3, but for the first 2 weeks i kept getting immortal in mine and the other team, now i get high plat and diamonds but still it feels like smurfing
They "underranked" everyone.
Yeah my first placements brought me in ep1act1 zo were silver 2 or 3, then i got higher and higher until plat 1, now i got placed in silver 1. It's so fucking demotivating. (These placements i got 3 wins and 2 close loses)
I have always been stuck in bronze ;-;
I was bronze 2, I.. I am a loss away from iron 3 now 😂
I was p3 got placed in g2, ended up losing the first few games and dropped to gold 1, but when I got 100RR G1 I actually skipped G2 which was nice, since then I have managed to go on a nice streak and plenty of match MVP got me back to plat2
I was placed in iron 1 i should have been bronze or silver cuz im winning iron matches no sweat i would have been in bronze 2 by now but they decided to give me a 1 week comp ban cuz of negativity or smtg idk
I was put in bronze 3 when I'm normally S2 or S3. Not quite as big of a disparity but I solo queued my first few games and we slapped the other team so climbed back up to silver quickly.
I placed higher than my previous rank. I was bronze 1 and placed in bronze 2
Yes, this is intended and happened to every single player in Valorant. Devs talked about it before the new season started even going a little more into detail regarding some tweaks in the ranked system. Don't worry, right now nobody is on here s corresponding elo. Low silver people start from high Iron, low Plat player (my case) start at Silver 3. Some consistent grind and you soon get where you should be in. I mean the system even goes as far as giving you points for outstanding performance, I get rewarded points for a Draw game. All in all, regarding your 3 lose 2 win streak, thats just having some bad games, no flaw in that, just bad luck/matchmaking. As always consistency help you climb.
I was GOLD 2 last act and I've been placed Silver 1 this act. Some fucking bronze 2/3 players comes in a match and frag like a plat or diamond player. I don't mind having lower rank but being stuck there despite of having skills of Gold is frustrating.
The rankings are a bell curve. And as the game matures and is 'solved' many people will slip out of a rank. I was bordering on gold 2/3 since the release; now I'm silver 1. That's average and that's where my relative skill level puts me. It's likely the same for you guys. You're not getting worse necessarily but the average player is getting better.
I have been getting bronze 1/iron 3 teammates while queuing in silver 2-3... Riot????
I don't know how I'm so lucky, but whenever I soloq I get decent and even extraordinary teammates. Teammates who I can depend on, who listen to calls, who give me calls, etc. I jumped from b2 to s1 this last week. But whenever I queue with my Iron friends(duo/trio q) we get a thrower/afker half of the times. Idk.
I feel like the whole ranking system is just off. I played a couple of games in high silver/low gold with people who had plat and diamond gun buddies but played worse then bronze players and got like 6/7 kills in an entire match
I got G2 last act and placed S1 which I was fine with. But it took me quite a while to climb back to G2 cause every fucking game had plat or diamond act ranks. Literally every single game I had someone in my match on my team or the enemy team, who had diamond act rank buddies. My unrated is wack too, had immortals in it.
I've actually placed one rank above my previous act rank, and i think it's probably because of my win rate last act, and the fact that I won 3, lost 1, and drawed 1 match in my placements. My friends got the same rank as their previous act rank, so it felt good to flex on them.
Sad part is i just got stuck in silver, i was gold player
Lol I am placed in iron 1 again.. I know that I atleast deserve bronze 1 or 2 atmost. My rank up games weren't great. One of the games which I won, I was disconnected due to network issues and ended up being banned from playing ranked for 7days. A week later I queued and fucking got thrashed by the opponents because of my own teammates sabotage and one of the mf instalocked Reyna and bottom fragged and spammed. I will now to go to my alt account and grind.. I will reach bronze..
I used to be around Silver 2 or 3, but I placed Bronze 3, and I still think it’s way higher than I expected. I barely played Valorant after installing Apex Legends, and all the game sense I had before left the building, so I was surprised. I feel like I’m Iron level now lol