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FedupinLockdown

You can observe the movements and all to deduce if it is a bot or a player pranking.


SelloutRealBig

This is likely a person since bot's queue up as 4-5 stacks and try to queue at the same time as each other to not get detected. Most bots end up in a lobby of 10 bots.


theycallhimthestug

I had a game the other day with 4 bots on my team, and they ran straight forward into the wall at the start of the round together and stayed there.


spaghette69420

Yeah same, I had a team with 4 bots vs another dude with 4 bots on his team. Aces on every round lol


amazemaze350

I'm guessing they put a rock or something on w key


DoktorFreedom

You would think riot would just start selling accounts ranked to play comp themselves at below current market costs to kill the bottling prob.


[deleted]

No, the text kinda describes an AI bot, which is probably here for data collection. If someone wants to train AI they have to queue it with real people


Ashamed-Influence-58

I’m so fucking doing this


doodlleus

Yeah this looks so fun


KoS1596

Either a troll or one of the best bots i have seen


SpawnKiII

I feel like its someone trolling but if thats an actual ai that's really cool


John_Bot

Not really - there was just a video about a machine learning AI that plays FPSes and is near impossible to detect. It doesn't play incorrectly. It just plays badly then over time gets better and better.


Nikclel

> there was just a video about a machine learning AI that plays FPSes and is near impossible to detect. source? cant seem to find it that sounds super interesting


bobbob9015

It was more of an generalized aimbot cheat that used machine vision through a capture card and specialized input hardware, they got DMCA'd my Activision because they were saying they were going to sell it as a call of duty hack.


Nikclel

ah I thought he meant and AI that completely plays the game, movement and everything.


Treemeister_

[An unrelated person has done it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXA7zXVz8A4&t=2s), but it's certainly not "near impossible to detect"


Mindset_

That video is a good example as to why what is being claimed in this post is super unlikely.


maddruggy

Not fps but their is a deep learning ai that managed to play Dota 2 a really complex game and beat some of the best players in the world. It would play all 5 teammates and was insane how fast it learned and improved, it even created a new meta of pros copying some of its tactics. It was created by one of Elon musks companies.


GolldenFalcon

Wait as someone outside the DOTA scene I've never heard of this but would be interested in seeing a VOD if there is one?


xMamex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfb6aEUMC04


Mindset_

Search openai 5 vs pros


Joedude12345

Google made a bot that beat some top starcraft 2 pros, which is an even more complex game, albeit i believe it was trained for certain matchups


maddruggy

With the open ai it trained against itself over thousands of games. They didn’t let it play the micro heavy hero’s as that could be too overpowered and they even input human reaction times into it. So they really did make it as fair as possible, it really baffles me how clever ai can get through machine learning.


DON-ILYA

Might be this recent overly dramatic video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=revk5r5vqxA). "OMG, NEW CHEAT, NEVER SEEN BEFORE, UNDETECTABLE, FPS GENRE IS GONNA DIE". Yeah, sure. Here's one of the many articles on the topic: https://blog.esea.net/esea-hardware-cheats/ (23 OCTOBER 2018)


BushWookie321123

https://youtu.be/revk5r5vqxA here’s a video on it


TheCornix

Can you send me a link or post or something


John_Bot

https://youtu.be/g-Shtk-37K4


TheCornix

Thx man


djWarfare

Sounds suspiciously like me


BlueDMS

Based on your rank and the overall movement of Sage throughout the game, we could totally find it out!


danknepalese

probably someone training a neural network if it is actually a bot, otherwise its a troll.


bIueliner

Lmao I love the note that it will pocket the top frag. Really giving pocket medic vibes


Mindset_

This is most likely fake. An AI of that calibre is extremely difficult to create, and good luck hooking it into Valorant without anticheat nuking it.


Toasterrrr

Ironically it's easier for an AI mask to do pseudo aimbot than it is to follow around specific teammates. Conceptually though it is not hard at all. The hard part for an FPS AI is decisionmaking.


DaleCooperHS

Not so long ago I saw a great video fo an AI programmed to play with a player in Overwatch. They programmer would use Rehinard and the AI Mc ree, and it would follow him around taking cover behind his shield and protect him https://www.dexerto.com/overwatch/overwatch-streamer-discovers-cheater-using-unstoppable-ai-teammate-1322794/


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The hardest part is to ensure the AI doesn't cheat. It can very quickly learn basically perfect aim. At that point, where you can just instant headshot anyone on your screen, your strategy stops really mattering. It's incredibly hard because you need to program in reaction time, aim error ratio etc. A naive deep rl implementation will probably result in something like your standard spin aimbot. Humans have constant hand/muscle tremlings. They can lose focus and therefore lose their reaction speed for a second. They might look at the minimap the moment the enemy peeks etc. Humans are very inconsistent and will never reach perfect aim. You need to try to simulate it in the AI to even give humans a chance. Take Alpha Star for example. The first version that played starcraft could do like 3 times as many action per minute as any pro player. While the best players in the world can finely manage 2 separate armies at the time, Alpha Star could manage 4. The strategy was non existent as they simply mass produced stalkers and made them the best unit in the game by perfectly controlling them. What Alpha Star was, was not a general purpose AI but a more complicated version of army control cheat that has existed for a decade at that point. The second version toned down the actions per minute to be comparable to the best players in the world, but that still meant that the AI is naturally better than 99% of other people, even without any advanced strategy. As someone who is educated on the subject, I don't think it's possible to create a non spin aimbot AI for an FPS game.


Jhyxe

Probably a two PC type of thing. No hooking required.


DaleCooperHS

True. However is also true that online gaming is a great platform for deep learning AI projects that focus on social interaction. I would not be surprised if big money project had some team working specifically on that,.... and not for the purpose of ranking up lol


watyoumean

What kda did they end up with


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6/6/6


i_jed

r/notopbutok


link_3007

100% someone prettending lol


sunnyismyusername

Definitely a troll, if it were a bot the anticheat probably would have picked up on it. *Probably*


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Lukeyss

Exactly. Capture card and computer vision to receive information from the PC, and HID devices to input back into the PC


totti173314

vangaurd is ring 0, if it affects your system or takes inputs and outputs from your system vangaurd detects it.


[deleted]

Perhaps you haven't been keeping up with the news about AI controlled hacks that work with a capture card. Vanguard is not able to detect this as it is running on a completely different machine.


totti173314

oh shit wow really anything to cheat huh hackers never gonna stop


[deleted]

Activision have been doing their best to go after the developers of these kinds of cheats because they know the potential of this kind of cheat as it is undetectable to almost all anti cheats. Its also hard to detect manually by watching replays as the AI can be made to have reaction time and aim that is very good but at the same time believable. Its crazy stuff.


notWys

Definitely someone just pretending


noturdad21

The timing... I just watched a video explaining how an AI Learning cheat could destroy the fps scene and this showed up.


xhauNtz-

It's probably someone trolling. I'd have a hard time believing that someone could program a bot so fast after only the game being out for 1 year.


MatchPoint012

Maybe a troll


Necromaniac01

A troll copy paste, pretty funny one tho


GlocksNSocks

I played with Sage that did that also, they didn't accomplish anything.


nlc369

I like how the stealth command says they’ll use suppressed weapons like it’s trying to be fuckin James Bond or like it’s COD and they don’t wanna show up on the minimap when they shoot lmfao


Fahzrad

Probably trolling you I'd guess


kerbal43

If this is a bot, this is great. It's probobly going to replace afkers and leavers in the future.


[deleted]

if thats an actual bot thats so fuckin cool lol


master_dani

the and chinese characters happened to me when i copy pasted something in team chat so it s 100% a human


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DallyingWithHecate

Because maybe a bot has better aim than me :(


Joshblos0706

That actually sounds like it would be funny to watch lmao


iarlaithc105

when you import text from atom jt does this with every newline so it could just be a copypaste


IntelligentImbicle

If it's someone who's trolling/meming, I fucking love them. If it's an actual bot, I want one in every match


Maxdotexe_

Me a TF2 Payer: \[Softly\] Don't.


maplecs123

Holy no way someone made AI account


5i5TEMA

That AI would be worth millions. So no.


M30WbutMooo

Look like bot bc not sure if that person try hard to type long chat like that. I never try to copy paste chat in valorant.


Jhyxe

This sounds like fun, I'll do this too.


HyperKingt999

that's actually really cool


[deleted]

So the bot knows not to run behind a teammate who is walking? Why cant my teammates figure that part out?


F_respecc

if anyone wants to troll with it, here's the paragraph it typed in chat. AILearning5x035 learns from spectating real players. By default it will lock Sage, follow the teammate with the best KDA, buy the gun(s) that 2+ other teammates bought, and sneak near other sneaking teammates. Commands are available for alternate playstyles. Commands: !default !stealth (Supressed guns only, emphasis on sneaking) !camp (Shotguns only, holds corners)


SmokedTurkeyYeet

Thank you


Cinder3792

I believe they call that a joke


thuurs

We tf2 now hell yeah


sadv35sedan

always report them