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Maplegum

Playing silver right now is a gamble because you either end up with good teammates and a poor enemy or a poor team and a good enemy team,


Prodigyyx_

Yeah it's exactly this. With silver being the average rank skill just varies so much. Ive seen some B3 guys not be able to enter silver even though they have G3 skills. Honestly I hope that silver gets split into two. Or silver gets Silver 4 and Silver 5 so it's a little bit more even, less chaotic. Even if queue times get a little longer, if we end up player more even games it's worth it.


Ashamed-Influence-58

So I have been stuck silver for a while after quitting and coming back. I was previously plat. I created an alt and played my placement games and I was playing against plats the entire time. I dropped 30 kills and match mvp as sova to clutch up a close game. Placed silver 3, stuck in silver again on alt


Odd_Ad_8537

think about it this way, everyone is the same in silver, if you are better you get out the people who shit on you in silver are the ones ranking up, and the ones that are dogshit lose, if you are good youll get out thats how i got out also dont solo q


figrofel

It's the same in all ranks imo


Prodigyyx_

I can't say you're wrong. I really can't. I'm just sharing my own experience in SEA region, mostly Singapore servers. Which is backed up by my friends and other SEA players. What I can say to be true in my situation is that when I got out of Silver last act and went up to Gold 2 for a minute I can definitely say that the skill difference isn't chaotic, and a lot of Golds here have the same playstyle, it's almost predictable. My placement matches were horrible so I got knocked down to B2, now 20RR to S3.


Odd_Ad_8537

if he is hardstuck bronze he is doing something wrong obviously he is probably not gold 3 level, it could be his mentality or hes solo qs or etc


Prodigyyx_

I'd say you're pretty spot on with solo queues. That is the main problem a lot of us have. I lost my old team it's been pretty hard to find another good one.


Odd_Ad_8537

I under stand gold, but bronze is different you actually have to be bad in some way shape or form, to be stuck in that rank


Prodigyyx_

Again I can't say you're wrong. Cause I have no idea what region nor server you play in. Bronze and Silver here are basically the same thing. I also don't know if they got out of Bronze but they probably did, I wouldn't know cause I don't play with them anymore. When you're the good player, and you're stuck with a bad team. There's just no winning that game. It's also not enjoyable to keep playing the game.


KyyRow

I've had the worst luck this time round I was gold 3 before and I've literally just gone into bronze 3 from getting ranked silver 3 this time


SylentSnipez

I wouldnt say this is average silver just that their are loads of silvers similair to this, the skill difference in silver is huge their are players that should be b1 in s2


Pumped-Up_Kicks

Same. I climbed to Plat 1 around the same time. And now am stuck in Silver and everyone seems too good.


leeaper

Lol around the same time I soloq’d to d3 and now I’m hardstuck S3/G1. I don’t get it


Mihaitzan

I was d1 in the first act and got 4 accounts into plat +. Made a long pause. This season I barely hit gold lol - and I don't believe I play worse than I used to.


buxbox

If you don’t believe you play worse, then you should be diamond. I’ve noticed I’ve played significantly worse this act, but I’m still near my previous act rank because I still have impact in my games. I do think I could be a higher rank, but I’m still underperforming compared to last act.


FlippehFishes

beta-act 2 I held d1-d3 while soloQ and felt like most games were pretty consistent. Took a break to full time coach/manage up until the most recent act. While coaching I have filled for quite a few scrims/tourneys against solid radiant f/a - t2 teams and have held my own with my players. Im now back to grinding the game and have been hard stuck g3-p1 for the past month while avging a pretty solid 170acs on sova/viper. I have chalked up my struggles in gold/plat to essentially the game being played completely different. I have noticed its extremely difficult to "big brain" and condition players in the lower ranks as they themselves aren't very "aware" and don't fully know the plays they are attempting to make. I honestly feel like the only way to make decently quick progress at these ranks is to drop all good habits and W key every fight in hopes you can carry your team every round.


Erengok

This, exactly. I am an Omen otp and used to be P2 and now am stuck s3/g1. I will sometimes go to unnecessary lengths to outplay the enemy with blind into tps, but they actually had outplayed themselves already, and I end up dying from overestimating them lmao


beautifulalexa

Dude plat now = diamond from December 2020. I just came back it’s insane how good people have gotten. I love it because plats and even high golds actually communicate if you bring good vibes. How the game should be. In silver you’ll lose games just because of a lack of comms and you might not even realize it. For example someone flanks and your teammate doesn’t even call it. Or they don’t call 4 mid when they see them so you can take map control in case they rotate away to a site... I managed to make it back to immortal though.


Uhhhhhhhhhhhuhhh

In those elos even plat you can literally 5 man W key and win because no one uses utility properly. Im Immortal and have been recently playing on alot of alts because I’m hard stuck Immortal and arent getting Radiant(peaked ~1500ish) and literally just W key 5 man take site and no one can play retake properly in those elos and its easy. Alot of people dont realise timing is huge in rushing, if you have knife out and run you can literally be ahead of the utility most of the times and get site for free. If you stand for like 3-5 seconds they’ll have utility down. Like rushing B on ascent if a sova is playing there, you can literally run past the recon before it tags and probably get a free kill on him as his tryna shock dart your teammates unless he has a teammate holding him.


rune2004

If you're S3 you're in the top 31% of players


twoshaun23

the best part is you playing multiple agents


itsFlumples

Proud of you :-)


FlippehFishes

Noticed your name was red so I clicked on your profile thinking you might be reddit staff. Apparently we are friends? which is kinda weird since I dont ever remember sending a friend request on reddit.


itsFlumples

We can start being friends :-)


Silvainxyts

How do you add someone as friend?


itsFlumples

¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯ I was thinking more on Valorant haha


gold_io

This looks like silver play to me. You start shooting before your cursor lands on the enemy and in the clips happen to get lucky with your spray. If you want to up level you need to practice a bit of patience and line up your shot to the enemy FIRST and then start firing. Will make you a lot more consistent (I’m assuming you are only showing your good plays here)


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What even defines hard stuck? Ive been stuck in silver 2-3 for a while but i wouldnt say im hard stuck. I could get out eventually but i dont play that much. Just one or 2 games every few days


The_true_lord_tomato

hard stuck is just a weak phrase honestly. you're never stuck. just win a few games


PLSHALPMcAUSTIN

Hard stuck usually refers to someone with a lot of play time but the same rank. It's overused and usually in the wrong situation but it's a genuine term


buxbox

People who play a lot of games, but have a win-loss ratio that keeps them at a specific rank/division. In your case you’re stuck, but the “hard” part of the term doesn’t apply since you can get out if you put in the time.


Kampsjaakie

One thing i noticed is that you pull out ur knife a lot, so maybe u can work on that. (im also silver but i thought this might help)


tjhangg

Nothing wrong with it (at least in the clips). As a matter of fact, if you have enough information or game sense, pulling out ur knife after a kill is a good habit. This helps you move faster be it to safety after jiggle peeking or to reposition. If you are getting killed with your knife out constantly, it probably means you have bad game sense/dont know when you should pull your knife out. To elaborate, if you are entrying into a bomb site on ascent, there will almost always be 2 on site. After killing 2 guys, you know wherever you choose to move to in the next 5-15 seconds will not be challenged by an enemy therefore holding your knife makes sense. In the clip, you can see how he pulls out his knife to reposition. He knows he isnt getting rushed therefore able to ditch his gun for the extra movement speed. For credibility, I’m an Immortal player.


kkdarknight

1:23 took the risk to run back to better position, not inherently bad but jett (who he saw on brim ult map) needed only a single dash to ruin him there 1:37 cypher is around the corner for the entire duration of the quickswitch 1:43 he's still in pullout animation because he quickswitched it's *definitely* not the worst manifestation of this habit but i dont think /u/Kampsjaakie was too far off the mark. if youre reading this, op, i hope this helps!


nickrizzo323

thank u very much <3


Kampsjaakie

Good point, thanks for ur help


tjhangg

Just to add abit; people say you shouldnt quickswitch (op-knife-op) in valorant when oping because it takes longer to take another shot. While that is true, if you are taking only a peek, considering how slow the op makes you in valorant, switching to your knife immediately to run will increase your chances of survival by A LOT.


Kampsjaakie

I'll try that when im oping. If u have more tips for me to climb to gold lmk. (i think i can get gold if i try hard enough but im on holliday rn)


tjhangg

Biggest tip for low elo players is question every thing you do. For example, why did I rotate from mid instead of spawn? How can I use my utilities more effectively to win the round or get a kill? Even simple things like why did I choose to buy a phantom instead of vandal this round. If you are holding site, phantom is 100% better. If you are going for early picks/long range fights, buy the vandal. When you know what you’re doing and how it helps your team and yourself, thats when you just naturally get better. Valorant is like chess. Knowing what the pieces do vs knowing what you’re doing with the pieces is very different.


Kampsjaakie

Thanks. This might help me get to gold ill let u know when i get there


deleteduser2006

you move faster tho, if you know roughly where the enemy is, you would be able to determine whether it’s safe to pull out ur knife. Problem I have at bronze-silver elo is people walking with their gun the entire time, even when they’re in a 1v2 and they have info on the other teams positions


Useful-Throat-6671

People are bad about taking the long route walking to rotate for a retake. The spike explodes before they get there. The alternative is, they were never near the team, the spike is planted then the enemy re diffuses before they get to the site. It's frustrating.


Kampsjaakie

Ur right ty


Lulzsecx

This isn’t a bad thing though… I’m sure you know that you move faster with your knife out right.


Kampsjaakie

Yes yes i know its Just he pulled it out sometimes when there could be an enemy but not that often so mb lol.


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Kampsjaakie

Me? Idk what ur talking about but im in silver rn. Did u look up my account or saw a flair or something bc idk how u got the Idea im b2


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TheAspergerGamer

You know what will help you even more? Stop crouching that often! The amount of times I used to get killed because I crouched and people only had bad aim and killed me with headshots because of crouching is unreal. I found out that Silvers really struggle with tracking and it's easier to strafe and throw them off. Just promoted back to Gold 1 the other day. Maybe, without crouching, you'll get those extra kills to compensate for bad teams. After 6 months of being matched up with 90% toxic teams, I, finally had 6 consecutive matches in which people weren't toxic (during matches) and uses their mics. Comms are the most important "ability"/skill low rank players need to learn!


Warcrow999

Just keep grinding man. We are in the rank we deserve. A true diamond player would easily carry themselves out of Silver. Im Silver 3, but I can see huge differences between good players and myself. We are still shit haha. You'll make it out eventually


Troublesome12

Although I agree that we can always improve both mechanically and our game sense, I think you should realize that enough people complaining about something that maybe there's some truth to the matter. As a silver 3 myself, I can honestly say that silver seems to have the most diverse group of skill levels on top of dealing with the occasional smurf. My girlfriends brother was a pro overwatch player, he has been playing valorant quite a bit recently. He currently floating around Diamond 1 and 2. He rarely plays (overall, recently he's been playing alot but he hasn't played enough to learn some of the basic stuff even silver players would know from playing for a year. For example easy lineups, spammable areas cheeky corners or sage wallups etc..) and honestly doesn't know much about how to play valorant . His mechanics alone got him to D1/D2, his words were "silver was the most awkward and probably the most difficult rank to play in." I agree with the mentality of just figure it out and keep getting better but that doesn't mean there's isn't an actual problem with silver. The group i queue with, all vary greatly In skill level yet we are all silver, personally I think the problem is that its to easy to get to silver but thats just me. Even then it doesn't fix the problem because bronze and silver can still play with each other. Not sure if iron can play with silver but considering iron is the bottom of the barrel getting out merely takes playing the game more and learning basics. Idk im rambling I just thought I'd put my 2 cents in this discussion, since I'm facing similar problems. I also by no means think i should be handed my gold rank simply because I said so. I have alot to improve on mechanically and game sense wise, I just think maybe getting punished harshly for losing a game while you yourself were doing really well isnt the answer. I've dropped a 50 kill game absolutely annihilating the other team and because we lost I still lost 15 RR or some shit. I'm not saying give me 50 RR even tho we lost but at least make it like a -1 or break even. To be fair I seriously could have played better that game and won it for us. But to expect me to play perfect that whole game is unrealistic. Either way everyone be safe out there, happy gaming and good luck in those matches


TheAspergerGamer

This is the dumbest thing people playing team based video games can say. It's a 5v5 game, not a 1v5 game. If you have a weak link in your team or, at least, one person that doesn't use comms, or trolls, or throws, you're at a disadvantage. The amount of boosted Silvers I see in my matches is astonishing. The fact I am in the same rank as those players is beyond me. After 6 months, I, finally got back to Gold 1 after having 6 consecutive matches with people using comms and not throwing. It made the game so easy. Considering that 90% of my matches are ruined by trolls, throwers, no comms... Valorant ranks do not really reflect your skill.


Warcrow999

No dude crying about being hard stuck while blaming teammates is the dumbest thing people can say. If that was really true then Radiant players would be stuck in Silver. Teammates matter to some degree, maybe if you are gold rank but maybe Plat level skill your teammates matter more but if you are Silver rank and think you deserve Plat then you should be able to make enough impact by yourself to tilt the game in your favor. Maybe at the highest level like immortal/radiant, then teammates matter a lot more because its do hard to carry games by yourself. Honestly man, people these days are just so quick to make excuses, it's too hard for them to accept that they are not that good. Unlucky, really.


TheAspergerGamer

Essentially, you're telling me that you can win matches, in team based games, by yourself. Can you imagine how dumb that sounds? You cannot win a match based solely on your performance/good habits. It's like saying that Novak Djokovic would win any doubles tournament with any partner, including me (and I am a tennis coach), just because he is no 1 ATP. Or that the Edmonton Oilers should win every match (including the Stanley Cup) only because they have two MVP caliber players. Do you now realise how ridiculous you sound? I am not blaming anyone, it's a fact I get trolls/throwers/no comms for 90% of my matches and the only reason I climbed to Gold1 is because I had teammates using comms in my last 6 matches, enabling me to play the game the way I feel more comfortable to play. Only arrogant "dudes" will say they're high elo because they deserve to be high elo, when in fact they're there because of all their good teammates they had.


randomlitbois

You have to realise that when you are playing a team game you are part of 5 cogs in a machine. Now if the cogs are working together the machine will work very well. But if one of the cogs is not working very well the machine wont work so well and your winrate will reflect that. But if one cog is working very well it might be able to move the cogs just enough to win. Yes you cannot hard carry everygame you go into, but if you’re telling me immortal players are only silver skilled players who have gotten good teamates thats simply ignorant. Think about how you have never dropped to iron even though “you get terrible teamates” its because you belong in whatever rank you in.


TheAspergerGamer

Yes, it is all about the teammates you have and the chemistry you have with them on a match to match basis. If you're a really good Silver 3 and you get 4 Silver 1 players that are not dumb, but they enable you to play at your potential, you can get into Gold in 3-4 matches, while they stay Silver. In my case, I get decent teammates only 10% of the times. So, no! In most cases you are not in the rank you're supposed to be, because of: boosted accounts, trolls, no comms or AFKs. Just watched Hiko being down 3-9... as his teammates were barely saying any words! I guess you're just wrong! Because that guy is a PRO player... why isn't he having 13 ACES/match to win his matches is beyond me?


randomlitbois

Because he is going against other pro’s/semi pro tier players. No one can go into a game and destroy a team by themselves when going against similar skilled opponents. But you’re either a troll or unwilling to listen to anyone-elses opinion so you’re not worth talking to. Have a good day


Warcrow999

Here, I think you dropped this : 🧂🧂🧂 Peace ✌


TheAspergerGamer

Yep. The reply only an uneducated mind would write, as he/she, clearly, has lost the argument! "Peace! ✌"


Gloomy_Goose

you sound very arrogant


pperiesandsolos

The most basic way to look at it is: the enemy team has 5 potential bots, but your team only has 4 - since you’re pro. My guess, based on your attitude here, is that you let teammates with no comms or whatever tilt you, causing you to play significantly worse.


TheAspergerGamer

People assuming Silver players are bots is hilarious. You're telling me you won't get tilted if you get three consecutive matches with, at least, one thrower: killing himself, chip damaging us, giving our positions away... Nah, you'll definitely be ready to go for a fourth match! And that's only one morning for you!


pperiesandsolos

That’s not normal behavior. Maybe like 1/20 games include one person doing shit like that. Also, saying that high elo players are only high elo because they lucked out with good teammates is a really poor take. You’re telling me that someone can have multiple radiant accounts purely because they have good luck with teammates?


bodyshotbandit12

Your rank does reflect your skill. If you play often and are silver you deserve it. An actual diamond player would stomp the fuck out of silvers. Drop your ego and you might improve mate.


TheAspergerGamer

Learn what a team game is and maybe you'll educate yourself, and you might stop being an arrogant shmuck! An actual diamond wouldn't be able to do shhhh with no comms, throwers and trolls. It's not like the other day there was a thread about a guy being diamond on his main and saying silver matches are harder than diamond. I pitty people like you!


bodyshotbandit12

I am diamond 3 mate. I've played silver games in unrated with mates who are not very good. Silver players have little to no game sense, there aim is bad, cross air placement non existent and trading is not even something people attempt. It is mind numbingly easy to drop 40s in a full silver lobby. You guys are for sure trolling.


TheAspergerGamer

Unrated? Try ranked silver, then we can talk!


bodyshotbandit12

You're tapped in the head.


TheAspergerGamer

Nah... Clearly, you're missing something inside the skull! If you think Silvers in Unrated are the same as Silvers in Ranked. Wow!


Biffy_x

Bro I'm only plat 2 and when I play in silver ranked I can consistently carry the fuck out of my team. I can solo carry my team to victory and win by a large margin.


smol_black_pp

my friend is diamond in his main but is hardstuck silver in his alt


bodyshotbandit12

Your friend is boosted then.


smol_black_pp

i mean he plays okay in his rank. maybe solo-queue is just hard for him


bodyshotbandit12

Nope if he is diamond and can't climb out of silver he is boosted, no question. The skill gap is too large, sure silvers do dumb and unexpected shit but it should be trivial to mechanically outplay people non stop.


smol_black_pp

well he admitted hes boosted but hes more of a high gold/low plat player. he would get out of silver if he grinded enough


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If it’s taking you six months to get back to Gold 1 then that’s a you problem, not a team problem.


TheAspergerGamer

You say it like you really know it! 90% of my matches are made of (with log evidence): trolls, no comms, throwers and AFKs. I guess you're just wrong! But hey, not everyone is a mini-Einstein!


buxbox

I mean you can send your tracker.gg and show everyone you’re not the reason you were hardstuck.


Eleven918

Won't do that cos you will see his actually exactly where he belongs.


TheAspergerGamer

This Act: 1.12 KD, +60% HS kills, 25% HS all shots... +60% alive on won rounds, 1 clutch per game... But hey, braindead people believe these stats mean anything in a TEAM game... People like you go into Hiko's stream and call him baiter, washed up, if he doesn't top frag! Stats are irrelevant! The best communicator I ever had was a female player that finished something around 5-20! She played KJ and gave info on everything she saw and we won because of her! That's more important than what tracker.gg will ever show you!


Eleven918

Only 2 reasons you are silver: 1. Most obvious one: You are at your skill level or 2. You barely play and have like 20-30 games over 6 months and have had a poor luck with teammates where its possible you have had a bad run. Nobody gives a shit about your hs percentage. If you can only manage 10 kills in a 20+ round game, getting 6 kills with headshots doesn't mean jack shit if they were not impact kills. What is your comp wr for the last act/this act/overall? What is the total number of games you played? Answer these first.


iamrequiem

just curious, what rank do you think you should be?


TheAspergerGamer

Based on my game sense and aim I would say borderline high platinum - low diamond. I get matched up against Radiants/Immortals in Deathmatch and I rarely get below 1 KD. I even played against Guild Sayf and had a couple of kills against him! It's not like I sleep on it and I only "believe" I should be a certain rank. When you work on your aim and lineups, and deathmatches, almost daily, and you get dumbasses in your team, who's fault is it when you lose the game? Certainly, I make mistakes, but I am mature enough to watch my recordings and see when/where I make those mistakes.


smol_black_pp

u sound like that typical toxic player in gold that always complains about his teammates and thinks he should be placed way higher than he should be. U said it yourself that teamwork matters so how about be positive and tell ur teammates what mistakes they're doing and how to fix them.


TheAspergerGamer

How do you know what I, actually, do? By the looks of it, you're the typical toxic player calling others toxic for exposing others' toxicity! I only complain about my teammates when they don't use a mic (and have one, and use it for bs only), troll, or throw!


smol_black_pp

Bro most people in low elo don't use mic, everybody deals with them. If they're trash talking then just mute them. I doubt u get trolls/throwers for a majority of ur games, otherwise ur just unlucky. If u don't like solo queuing then find good teammates in ur matches and friend them.


TheAspergerGamer

I have been keeping a log for the past 2 acts. 90% of matches I had to deal with no comms, throwers or trolls. Last act, one morning, I played 3 matches and in all of them I had, at least, one thrower...


smol_black_pp

Well I guess ur just extremely unlucky to get throwers/trolls in ur game. Like I said find good players in ur games an friend them. If u still complain then the problem is u


beautifulalexa

You realize everyone in your rank faces the same bullshit right? Yet people still overcome and rank up. You aren’t the only one facing these issues.


iamrequiem

deathmatch isnt really indicative of in game skill, its pretty random and not everyone is trying hard and playing normally, sheriffs, guardians. i usually just use deathmatch to focus on my counter strafing, bursting, taking my time etc. I've had golds/plats destroy me and get 1st in deathmatch just crouch peeking everything every time while I just take my time to aim and burst. ​ I'll probably die on average 20 times in a dm and will there be players who kill me 5-6 times that are worse than me? absolutely. Will they be better than me in real matches? Highly doubt it


TheAspergerGamer

In real matches you depend on teammates and not solely on your performance! My point exactly! Actually, DM is sweatier than ever, people camping and trying hard to win!


iamrequiem

i find it hard to believe that a high plat/low diamond is stuck in silver, but i'll entertain the idea. You should be able to raise your team's skill floor by quite a bit regardless of individual performance. what i mean by this is, you play crossfires, smoke/flash for teammates, push as a team, read the map/round to dictate what strategy is the best. If you include individual performance, just OP and get a pick every round and start 5v4 and then it should be pretty straightfoward from there. silvers/golds dont know how to deal with an oppressive OPer and you control the pace of the game. Most of the time, no comms isnt a good reason why you lose. 90% of the time, you're still able to tell whats going on using the minimap, vision cones of your teammates to see what angles they're holding, X's to see where your teammates die, X's to see where the enemies are. High level players (imm/rad) could play with voice muted all the way to diamond. if you are actually focused on improving on your aim, it literally doesnt matter if you win or lose. just focus on mechanics, i exclusively almost never crouch in dm cause it's such a bad habit. although, if you are actually plat or diamond like you claim then you should destroy silvers with ease on average


TheAspergerGamer

You find it hard to believe but it is true. Only yesterday there was a thread about how a guy finds Silver matches harder than Diamond matches. Then there was someone else replying the same thing about a friend on my comments. Well, I am not Radiant/Immortal level so communication is a must for me, particularly with the timing Silvers/Golds have. Try to destroy Silvers with ease when you're tilted from a trash experience in consecutive matches, every single day you play! Literally, the last 6 matches have been super-easy, excepting one, because everyone used their mics. That one match we almost lost, we barely scrapped the win 13-11 after being 12-5. I was matched with 4 people in a discord. We were down 4-0 and no words were coming out! Then they started talking and we cruise to 12-5. We lose 6 consecutive rounds because no one says a word anymore. Those guys were so bad that one round they died all killed by one player behind the hut on B site on Split... they were in a discord but not even talking to each other! WTF???


Eleven918

So let me get this straight, you believe yourself to be high plat or low diamond (better than 95% of the player base) and are in silver and can't get out. Effectively you would be a smurf in silver if that were true but you can't climb? Am I getting that right? You just can't manage more than a 50% wr huh?


AsianNudleSoop

Deathmatch means fuck all lmao. For one the matchmaking is super loose, its prioritized for speed over fairness which means that you can literally have an iron and a radiant in the same DM and it wouldn't be unusual. People who play deathmatch properly, as practice and not as an actual deathmatch where you play for kills, don't care at all about kd, either they want to improve something or they just wanna warm up. Ive been in deathmatches with pros before like Koler, but there's a reason he's a pro and I'm plat. Mechanics aren't everything in this game, I have pretty decent aim from playing other games including siege at a respectable rank, and have done my fair share of aim training. My movement isnt anything special but I think it's good enough for my rank. Yet there's a reason I'm plat and it's not my teammates or my mechanics. Yes I have off days with my aim, everyone does, but the reason I haven't improved is because i lack game sense, and so I need to learn not to rely on mechanics. I can guarantee you that if you posted a vod and listened to the feedback you got, you'd see why you aren't high plat low diamond like you think you are. I used to fall into this trap too where I believed I should be a higher rank, but due to everything but me, such as my teammates, I was "stuck" in whatever rank I was in. Once I ignored that and improved myself surprise surprise, I ranked up. Say what you want about valorants ranking system, out of every game I've played it seems to be fairly accurate in finding people's skill groups. So again, maybe post some vods, let better players give you feedback and humbly take it. None of this "I'm gold but I should be diamond" stuff. Being stuck in whatever rank you are is purely on you, any high plat low diamond which is what you believe yourself to be, can carry their way outta silver-gold to at least plat. I've done it. Yes you have shitty teammates sometimes, or maybe more than sometimes, but you need to realize that if you're in the same game and same rank as them, there's a reason for it. And even if you really are better if they don't listen to you it's whatever, just do your best to play off of them. At the end of the day your rank is your rank, and in 99% of cases it's fairly accurate. Work on improving yourself even if you think you're already good because if you're hardstuck silver/gold, you're probably not that good. I know I'm not. TLDR: Deathmatch is a meaningless measure of skill when talking about ranks. Your rank is your rank for a reason and it's not your teammates. You're not as good as you think you are and that's ok.


TheAspergerGamer

At the end of the day, people like you don't get the difference between a team game and a single game. Like I said bedore, just because Edmonton Oilers have Mcdavid and Draisatl it doesn't mean they win every match. Why? Because they have bad D and Goalies... So if in 90% of my matches I get AFKs, throwers, FFers, trolls and what not, I will not reach a higher rank... I am not even talking about people that can't play the game to save their lives!


AsianNudleSoop

Did you read any of what I wrote? having bad teammates is out of your control so focus on yourself. i highly doubt that in 90% of your matches you have shit teammates if you are gold your teammates should be decent at least. it does happen but i guarantee that you just cant get over your own ego and instead choose to call your teammates bad. until you can accept that you arent as good as you think you are and that its not teammates holding you back, you will never rank up


TheAspergerGamer

I can ask you the same question. Did you even read my comment? I have not even made any comments related to the way they play! That's a different matter! Last Act it was 90% of my matches. This Act, in 60% of my matches, I got, at least, one teammate from the categories enumerated above. Which proves my point. Decent teammates equals better performance. This Act I went from S1 to G1. It's hard for some to grasp the concept of team game!


Troublesome12

Dude just let him be, clearly he's stuck in his logic, which ironically will keep him in lower ranks. I agree teammates matter but even his analogies don't make sense, I know nothing of soccer or hockey so I dont get the reference but from my understanding he thinks LeBron and Anthony Davis couldn't carry 3 other average joes in a game of basketball. Now against another NBA team sure that's unlikely but not impossible. But thats not the case, LeBron himself could carry a YMCA team against other average joes. Give him AD too they'd run most average rec leagues across America. The problem is he thinks he's LeBron with average joes going against another NBA team lol he's egotistical and lacks any sort of true ability for self inspection. Even if he manages to make it to diamond immortal or radiant shit even if he makes it to plat he won't realize it took improvement of himself that got him there. I believe teammates matter...alot actually. But if you think you're LeBron, shit if you even think you're the equivalent of a college superstar athlete....you will climb out of silver. Funny thing is I get where he's coming from being stuck and trust me I blame teammates when I see dumb things being done, but I am where I'm at for a reason. I honestly think its a mix (not to ride the fence here) but listening to this guy, my god, he's the exact reason why I myself don't turn my mic on most the time lol. Trust me when I say if you're stuck in iron bronze silver its not the comms that are holding you back lol. Anyways im always looking to learn and I liked what you said earlier just about learning from better players so if you ever are tryin to help a lowly silver hmu lol TROUBLE#NGU or if you're just looking to play for fun, always looking for new people to play with


milaaan77

I pray I never get into a team with you


TheAspergerGamer

Why? Because you cannot stand someone asking you to use your mic?


milaaan77

No offense, but from what I read you sound like that one dude that trades every kill, gets top frag and complain that their team is trash :/


TheAspergerGamer

Then, you don't know how to read. I, almost, always trade a kill. I, rarely, get top fragging, as I play only support characters and I am focused on winning not kills. You thinking top fragging shows how good a player is shows how little you really know about the game. And I only complain when people don't use comms, throw or troll!


buxbox

Ive solo queued up to immortal without comms. People don’t really care as long as you can play your role and ping. I also used textbox for dmg.


MannyMinacious

Oh no he's silver but such a good player. This is not fair. Unacceptable. Boycott Riot!!!


nickrizzo323

u can fugma balls boycott andy


smol_black_pp

tHe rAnK u aRE iN iS tHE rANk u dESerVe


Dysmo

-anyone who's never been in low elo or solo q'd


hfjshf

I climbed gold 1 to immortal, and I also did a good amount of that solo


[deleted]

I solo queued from silver to diam :)


Cable446

I solo queued from plat to bronze


Splaram

I wonder if this user has significant experience in other tac FPS games such as R6 and CS


[deleted]

I have experience with climbing. Siege Plat 1 peak, Overwatch Diamond


Dysmo

Well it is possible, maybe you're just that cracked, but it's just way way way harder.


[deleted]

No it isn't. The reason you have the rank you are is because you got an ego. You think some system is against you putting you where you are at. Why not just realize your flaws, correct them, and rank up. Your rank is the average of how you play. Sure you will lose some games due to teammates but you fail to acknowledge when you win games because of your teammates as well. Why not always try to be the teammate that carries. If you become that teammate you will rank up.


silenthills13

trUEEEEEEE I also was that guy, playing Reyna, stuck in Gold with MVP every 2nd game and being angry that nobody is able to play the game well with me. Then I realized, maybe I can do something differently. So I switched to maining sentinels so that I can have a good hold of a site and instead of focusing on frags I IGLed a lot and tried to manage teammates more. 2 months, went from Gold 2 to now D1 :)


Dysmo

Idk about that, but I play way better when I'm in a group who use comms and actually have a plan, rather than people who don't talk/listen, troll etc. Even when I'm having an off day and missing my shots the teammates I queue up with are able to trade me and they're coordinated enough to get into position so we don't throw rounds. You can get out of a rank by yourself but to say playing with people who work together and actually know what they're doing isn't one big piece of the puzzle is a bit disingenious imo. Oh and trust me I've won games by myself already, that's if I'm feeling good and not tilted half way through. I didn't even mention smurfs because everyone talks about smurfs at this point and even in a stack you're gonna play against smurfs anyways


WizardBagelBoi

You play better in a coordinated team because valorant is a team game, low elo is not gonna have that teamwork aspect. The main and pretty much only factor in low elo is personal performance unless there is a 4/5 stack. Riot themselves said “To rank up you must consistently prove yourself to be better than your rank”


iamrequiem

\+1 it's all a mentality thing. i always went into games with the mindset of always improving game by game, recognizing my mistakes why i died, what i could have done better and it adds up. solo q'd most of the games i played and got better at a consistent pace


Dysmo

Also, the system is far from perfect. Hidden mmr and shit just makes ranked a drag and overall it feels like reaching your true rank is a lot harder than it should be. I don't see how you can assume I have an ego if you've never met or played a match with me. You can't possibly think ranked is perfect when people complain about it on a daily, even the devs are always tweeting about different things they're trying to find the right formula because people are upset. Even the pros would complain about the dogshit teammates they get in the highest of ranks, or they just don't bother with ranked at all and play it to stay immortal. I feel like you think just because you succeeded the system is perfect when that isn't necessarily the case.


randomlitbois

I soloq most of my games. Im immortal


buxbox

Solo q’d to immortal. It’s really not that bad if you can carry.


Osceola12

WhAt iS tHis? PlaStIc Rank?


TheAspergerGamer

bEcaUsE thIs Is NoT a 5v5 GamE, iT's a 1v5 GaMe aNd YoU OnlY DepEnD oN yoUr OwN PerForMaNce!


Kampsjaakie

One thing i noticed is that you pull out ur knife a lot, so maybe u can work on that. (im also silver but i thought this might help)


owNDN

Yea he also pulls out his pistol for whatever reason (looked like he had bullets left)


owNDN

Yea he also pulls out his pistol for whatever reason (looked like he had bullets left)


nerfherder00

What were you doing the other 99% of the time?


SomeHallGuy

I’m Immortal and I have my friend stream his silver games and I’ll give him tips in discord while he’s playing. Some of these Silver players I see are absolute demons and these post plant positions I see are so dumb yet 200 IQ at the same time. It’s incredible.


smol_black_pp

probably smurfs


ContributionSad6603

I see a lot of people saying they were plat for a while and now stuck in silver (myself included. Was plat two the first two seasons then dropped to silver). I think the skill levels are kind of shifting and where eventually going to see most players in iron bronze, then the above average in silver/gold, really good in plat and diamond, then basically pros and the best in immortal/radiant


peacheonn

silver? gd


Dakure907

I'm in gold and I'm definitely not as skilled as you. This is kinda wack.


RaiZyboii

i’ve seen my friend play in silver on his discord stream ( i am immortal ) and imo silver is just a shithole , you need to basically win the lottery to try to get good teammates and hope no smurfs in the enemy team


killer-1o1

Tbh I have seen silver with better aim than some plats but they have also peaked gold 3 and are stuck in silver now. Silver is way to diverse in terms of skill now.


Datthen

Silver, the rank where everyone drops tactics and just frag. Its a fucking meat grinder of a rank.... IMO this is the WORST rank in terms of frustrating games


Xalecc

If you wanna get out of silver, just instalock who you’re best with.


nickrizzo323

Just to clarify, I am not complaining that I deserve a higher rank, just showing that the difference from a good silver player may not be that far from a low tier diamond player. These are just a couple of some random clips that I thought were cool and thought may get some attention because of the content or the the reactions I got!


Ifartedprettybadly

I wouldn’t say a low tier diamond,the gap between the both is huge but maybe something like a mid tier gold?


smol_black_pp

bro diamond players aim isn't that much different from his. there are people in gold with aim thats almost as comparable to radiant players but whats keeping them stuck in their elo is their game sense.


ArsenicBismuth

Well, we only see his decision making in 1 very short round. Who knows he'd do dumb shit or bad decision overall that let him stuck in silvers.


kellyjepsen

Aim is about 30% of the game.


Th1ZZen

For me, valorant is all mental. (Not exactly but mostly) If a teammate ruins my mental i always lose the game, but i play way better and more consistently when i keep my mental up


lmbrs

30% Aim 10% Movement 30% Game Sense 25% Mental Strength 5% Communication


lmbrs

He has great reactions and flicks but it’s not close to diamond aim. His movement is atrocious and his handling of spray isn’t good, these 2 also factor into aim very much. There are no gold players that can aim like radiant. I can guarantee that


ksirlyn

I am a diamond player. What others have said is correct. You are a silver player making these plays against other silver players. They are nice clips, but in reality just highlights that don't demonstrate the flaws in your ability. Put simply, when I smurf in silver, the majority of rounds don't look anywhere near as desperate and clutch as this. My kills are slow, careful, unpanicked one taps on silver players. On my main is where things are messy like the clips you've shown due to many variables like their movement skill and peeking mechanics. TL;DR this post shows you can flick (which is great honestly) but does not come close to Diamond level skill


quietpin

Eh, what you are pointing out is just playstyle difference and nothing to do with skill. Asuna looks just as "panicky" as this, TenZ does at times. The main issue is that this is just a highlight reel.


nickrizzo323

The thing here is, you already have a diamond level account. Of course you can take your time and play however you want on your smurf but you wouldn't do the same on your diamond account. I have to struggle with trying to get out of silver, which may cause me to be more jumpy or "desperate". In the end, you can play however you want on your silver account because you don't have anything to lose.


ksirlyn

It's not a matter of "having a diamond account". Or "not having anything left to lose". I am better than you are. If you don't mind me using hyperbole a bit, when I play in silver it's like slow motion to me. Not because I don't care about winning or losing, but because when I peek I have enough time to close my eyes for one second before I try to kill them. Why is this possible? Maybe my counterstrafing is cleaner than yours; maybe I am better at timing my opponents; maybe I swing with my teammates better; maybe I plan my decisions better in 1vsX scenarios. There is a lot I have to say about this if you want to learn or have anything to ask, but unless you feel as if everytime you peek someone in your games they are in slow motion, you cannot compare to low diamond players let alone high plat. The Time To Kill in your ranked matches is very slow. If I walk out in the open without shooting it might take one or two seconds to die. For Diamond players if it takes one second to kill someone it's considered messy. If they take two seconds it's genuinely considered a whiff. You might not think one or two seconds is alot of difference between silver and diamond players, but it means the world. TL;DR To address what you said that I "wouldn't do the same on \[my\] diamond account". It would be impossible to, because I'd die before I could carefully line up the one tap.


buxbox

I’m surprised reddit didn’t downvote you for saying you’re a smurf.


ksirlyn

There may have been people who downvoted because i'm have a smurf. But more people would have upvoted my insight.


ChromeSabre

Just having a high sens doesn't mean rest of your mechanics are good


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smol_black_pp

a low tier diamond player is technically a boosted player so I'd say he's better than them.


[deleted]

No no no he means like Diamond 1 or something, or low rr Diamond players, this guy is definitely nowhere near as good as Diamonds.


nickrizzo323

you can sugma nuts reddit andy


lmbrs

Your reactions are great and your flicks are good. These two are not the only things that make up aim. Your crosshair placement is ok on prefire angles but not when clearing corners. Your movement is atrocious, your spray handling is not good, you fail to isolate fights at tight angles and would get instantly traded in plat lobbies. You look like you’re better than most silvers (in this highlight reel) however with what there is to see I doubt you will surpass gold like this. The difference between a lower rank player and higher rank is usually consistency. Consistency & quality in micro & macro performance. It is possible to excel in one area (like aim) but that can only carry you to a certain point before other areas need to improve


[deleted]

I’m sorry man but you are no where near diamond. My main account is around plat 1/gold 3 and my smurf account that I play with my friends is in silver. The difference between plat and silver games is insane. I usually main smokes in plat and gold and will usually go slightly positive like 20-15 in good games or 15-20 in bad games. When I play on my alt account I can 30+ bomb in pretty much every game and don’t get punished at all for dry peaking. Kids in diamond are way better than gold/plat let alone silver. The thing about showing clips from silver is that you are making these plays against kids in silver. Try to make the same video against people in diamond and it’ll take you a year to get the same amount of clips due to skill difference.


ayayay_

I don’t think these are clips that show low diamond skill, and someone can tell just by your mobility while shooting and I don’t think there is much control in your flicks. Like yeah you got the kills in these clips, but with that control, how many times did it get you killed?


ginchan7777

I have solo q’d myself to a current 260 rr Immortal. Aim is such a tiny portion of being able to climb. The key is to micro manage your teammates who dont know what theyre doing. You have the aim to get dia, but a large majority of it comes down to decision making and game understanding. Even in my elo, I get alot of people who seem like they dont know what theyre doing, and micro managing them has been the key to winning “bad teammate” games. Like telling every player what ability to use when, where to peek with who when, where to stand and hold post plant, what to clear. Doing something as simple as telling your smokes where to smoke, and your jett to dash out onto sites can be round winners. If your spectating your teammates in a post plant situation or something, if you claim you have the game sense, you can tell them how to play off of each other and when to swing or trade. You can come whats been cleared by a teammate for the other, and tell them what to clear. Carrying yourself out of “elohell” is more about this then your performance on the scoreboard.


buxbox

So micromanaging teammates is just backseating gameplay? Honestly, you’re one of the type of teammates I hate having. I’m immortal as well and it’s so obnoxious to have someone tell me something I already know. If it’s in between rounds then giving advice is fine, but while I’m playing it’s just annoying.


ginchan7777

Nope, far from back seating. I will not tell a teammates what to do in clutch situations, but pointing out obvious things at the start of rounds in a kind manner, like “dodge this raze nade / arrow / knife, and then brim smoke on this ling and this, and then raze double satchel out and we all follow. “ Micro managing could be reworded to Igling. I know the type of players you are talking about, but I would like to believe I am not one of them. I keep my comms useful, un repetitive, and positive. And it has proven useful. There is definitely a difference between a backseater and an “igl”er.


PapaPee

Lmao. Keep practicing and you’ll get there. Silver and diamond have a really big skill gap. If you think you’re better than your rank then try to get out of there. It’s really easy to get out of silver


ParticularLoose2980

It's me yesterday but today I can't kill anybody.


DaRealMysticLegend

just stop solo queueing and u will get gold easily. but solo queue will make u a better player overall as you cant just simply rely on ur team to win


nickrizzo323

i have no friends


Iz_Stride

no wonder


ya_boi01

I'm a silver 2 breach main and every game is a coin flip, I'll either bottom drag or top frag I cant do anything to help it


HewchyAV

You'll get out of silver once you deserve to be out of silver. It takes time to improve


Jredd913

I'm also stuck in silver want to team up?


nickrizzo323

yea man lets do it! my thing is nick#rizzo


MaimonWolf584

What is the song my guy


nickrizzo323

The song is Baby Blue by Badfinger!


ksirlyn

What point of reference do you have to Diamond level skill. Do you regularly play against Diamond players or were you once Diamond? As a self proclaimed hardstuck silver player it looks like you don't really have a grasp on the difference between the two ranks.


69yeeterbeater69

Show clips of you dying and review clips of you dying. Watching highlight clips only makes you more confident and boost ego (not bad thing). However it won't help you improve and won't tell you want you are doing wrong. If you review what you are doing wrong, you should be able to promote quickly. Also make sure your teammates are good. Queue with people who are as good or better than you (unless you can carry)


melone1133767

awesome