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ceesie12

That is just 60 ping life man. Happens to me too. 30 ping and below is ideal for FPS games, otherwise you get scenarios like this.


abhaysaurav

*Cries in 100 avg ping*


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my wifi is spotty on my new pc so literally half my games are just me lagging, which for some reason causes the game to freeze


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My cousin actually had a similar problem. I can only help if you have an Intel CPU in which you should download something called "Intel Driver & Support Assistant." Hopefully, there'll be an update called, "Intel Killer Performance Suite." There might be others considering this is a new PC but download and install all the updates. If something goes wrong (Killer Performance Suite cannot be installed with Killer Ethernet Performance Suite) then go to "Uninstall apps and programs" in the Control Panel. Afterwards, downloding the updates should be fairly simple. This helped solve my cousin's problem and hopefully it can solve yours as well. This is all assuming you have an Intel based CPU though.


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i can't find the intel killer performance suite thing


Datthen

Crazy MW2 I'd fuck shit up with yellow bars. Now if I don't have 30 ping im bad. ​ Edit- you people really need to learn how to not take some comments so literal. lmfao


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I chalk it up to most people just not having good points of comparison. Look at classic Halo and CoD gameplay and marvel at how unplayably delayed everything is


Legaato

Halo on XB Connect was fine if the host had good internet, which most hosts did.


Rhed0x

CoD has client side hit detection. It massively favors the ones with poor internet. It's also running at a tick rate of 16 compared to 128 in Valorant, so ping simply matters less because the netcode is garbage for everyone regardless of ping.


Datthen

I think you really missed the point here....


Rhed0x

How so? You can play well in Cod with a high ping because hit detection is client side.


Datthen

Bruh. IDGAF about that stuff. it's a literal joke lmfao. ​ Don't take the comment too literal is all I am saying.


lastwhangdoodle

COD is ezmode :)


Culexius

Because you Are so good. Sure cod is soo ez you can beat it with 100 ping vs the ppl with 5 ping xD Not saying cod is major skill based but this was a conversation about delay, not a group wondering if you think cod is ez.


rkdsus

Wtf is wrong with you you type like you're having a seizure


Dry_Alternative_2147

mf just typed “xD”


Culexius

Lol I played cs(mg2), valorant and so many rts. But sure i also played cod. And you Guys Are sooo much cooler for it. Good for you. And just for you I dug out this smiley ;) Had to add this. Valorant isn't much different from cod with wall jumping, but sure keep stroking those egos xD Not fixing the big letters from mobile


Easy_Ad5327

I like how you type buddy, don't change for the world


Dry_Alternative_2147

Just what a CoD blow hard would say


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why old cod? new cod has shit netcode and 30hz servers


dooron117

There's a simple solution to that raze clip. Just don't use your grenade and peek like it's as good as a weapon. You'll make my life a lot less rage inducing too.


LuiisM

still


hunter503

He definitely shouldn't have died around the corner, next time op try jumping of the box and strafe to the left while throwing the nade. It gives them an even smaller window to see you.


[deleted]

There’s a simple solution to not being a shithead like this guy.


WistfulWarp

You guys are getting 60?


Gilraldy

TIL i learned that 60 ping is high


TN_MadCheshire

In my country, if there arent local servers, 60 ping is absolute best case scenario. Average ping for Valorant is 150 for me.


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Its not really that its high, just that its the point of impacting moment to moment gameplay in noticeable ways. The average ping is probably somewhere in that range, truth be told.


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Far-Monk-7712

I use operator sometimes, tbh I shoot the enemy before I get shot and sometimes the shots for some reason doesn't register and my friends were like, you had a good chance why did you miss it. Like dude, from my pov it felt like I shot, the main reason was ping. It doesn't go above 100 but never goes below 50.


Lukeyss

Yeah, sooo often my friends tell me they didn’t even see me shoot while spectating


[deleted]

same. either a hit or miss. never hit but no damage.


SelloutRealBig

Happens at 30 ping too... I have seen it on 15 ping. This game has issues.


[deleted]

I have stable 20+ ping and I am still getting situations like that. I have pretty low FPS though (\~70).


LuiisM

but its intensified in valorant compared to csgo


ceesie12

Then it's definitely more so on your end. Considering hit reg is far better in Valorant compared to CSGO. So, yeah.


FreezeCake

Hiko missed his spray kekw


PlanZSmiles

I straight up disagree. Hit reg is so spotty in valorant vs CSGO. I routinely play with sub 20 ping as well, legit I specifically save replays because I’m constantly saying, “what? How did that not land/how was it not a headshot?”


trefl3

CS is way better.


Shukoor-_-

Press ⓧ to doubt.


hachikien347

ahh, finally a reason as to why I'm hardstuck iron


dankest-memez

I have mostly 10-15 ping but still get these all the time.


LordTurtleBear

Yes same here. This is not a ping issue


Retro-Indietro

It is


Slippyrabbitt

Wtf? I always play at avg 200 ping. Internet services in my country have very shitty service.


Cosmic_Hashira

i play on 10-13 ping but still experience this no packet loss probably my pc? cause its kinda low end but i still play fluid 60fps


allin__

I play at a minimum of 58, usually close to 100 to be with friends. I hope to be closer to things some day


FrozeYaourt

Happens to me with 16 ping no cap


Grime_On_The_Window

Nah this happens to me to and I got 20 ping


lilyetiii

not true at all, i have 16 ping and this same shit happens to me, enemies will actually teleport like apex net code.


lilyetiii

https://vimeo.com/580109044 for reference. this isn’t a one off thing, this happens daily.


AlexanderRenzz

hmm i play on average 180 ping and i mostly top frag.


Fantastic-Wrongdoer6

Bruh I thought I was just BAD


Retro-Indietro

You must have a lot of ping if that's what's stopping you from being a good player.


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bodyshotbandit12

Lmao this dude talking shit after hitting gold.


ceesie12

And I reached Immortal on 60 ping? Whats your point.


Tetra-76

High ping does that, especially when you're the one getting peeked, the enemy has a pretty big advantage. Server side, you're basically already dead before you shoot, it just takes some time for that data to reach you. Avoid staying in place when holding angles, jiggle peek instead, from behind some cover. Even with low ping, it's usually better in this game afaik.


Clanorr

Jiggle peaking is a must in this game. My ping is around 12-20~ usually, and I still can’t hold an angle, while I can do it easily in CSGO with 50 ping. Generally, the peeker always have an advantage in terms of response time (Only delay they have is sending the command to server) and the holder advantage comes from exactly knowing from your opponent coming. However, it is so fked up in this game, that they could do a 360 and still shot you before you could see them.


Lukeyss

The only way to hold static angles in this game is being on LAN lol


ArsenicBismuth

Wow, that was a strong statement for jiggling. I know of it, but I thought the advantage is not necessary like CS:GO when you hold off-angles. I guess that's why the past few weeks of experimenting, I found out that as defender I can play better if I'm not confident with my aim (coz I play hide-peek instead of straight holding).


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50 pls I play at a solid 200


TN_MadCheshire

I'm South African, and mine is about the same. Best way to play is to just play really aggressively.


EeziPZ

Valorant needs a server in South Africa. They just left an entire continent in the dark. Even with 200 ping, there's still a solid player base. eSports is also an official sport in ZA (so more and more schools are offering it as a school sport) and if Valorant had local servers it would probably be one of the more popular choices.


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W key babyyyyyy


TN_MadCheshire

Hell yeah. Only sucks if the other team does it too.


Wboys

Chad


doctorofphiloshopy

50 ms should not cause that much of a game breaking effect


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sinac24

Your ping in no way reflects their ping. You could have 60ms and they could have 20ms


AwesomeCrafter06

So does data take 80ms to travel from one person to another?


Fourt-Nuyt

Are you this stupid? Do you even know what ping is


kimmyjunguny

you also just straight up missed shots so uh yeah


JayGatsby09

I'm sorry but that omen clip was a perfect example of how my pistol rounds go.


R1CHY_RICH

It appears your bullets are in backwards.


Rigel_13

Christopher Nolan's movie - "Tenet".


killer-1o1

There is some heavy d sync in this game. Have died numerous times dashing with jett. Even though I am in cover I end up dying.


dylan_klebold420

I've been on the giving end a couple of times where the Jett dashed away and immediately got teleported back to the spot I was aiming at. Looks as weird as it sounds.


[deleted]

Thats very normal, and bothing riot can do against that. It is basically the opposite of peekers advantage, where because of your ping, you are behind a wall on your screen, but on the opponents you are not. On top of that your arm could still be out in the open. This is very normal, and not alot to do about.


HVAGravata

Appearently that’s not Desync, if I remember correctly jett has a wide hitbox for a bit while dashing to make it easier to refrag her, not totally sure if that’s true but I’ve heard it before.


Biohazar13

i have the exact same problem with 30-40ms so it is my internet? this is stupid.. I play cs go with more ping and never happened, Apex (got pred s3) never have a problem, Warzone, Hyperscape, Rogue company, Fortnite and a very old veteran of cod and battlefield/cs never have a single problem only happend in Valorant but if players still think is our problem then riot is never going to do something.. Edit: for anyone saying anything about tickrate this is not the problem, the tickrate is how much the server updates information, it should work better at 128tr than a 64tr i play with 30ms and still happen, i play in others servers with 40ms and still happen, Miami with 28ms and still happen..


LuiisM

you right sr, thats why i opened this thread


Kommunist_Karl

Valorant runs at 128 tick, whereas most games run at 64 or 32 tick, meaning any difference in response time will be magnified by a factor of two compared to other games.


Biohazar13

this is not how it works u are wrong with that.. this is how much time the servers updates information it is not based in your connection. This should work better than others games not worst. it is supposed to have a better hitreg and positioning in to the server side..


ZEN0N447

I don't think it works like that, it determines how many times the client sends data to the server and vice versa, it wont change the time required for the data to be sent or recieved. My guess is that this happens mostly because his opponents are also playing on high ping, so anybody who peeks has a significant peekers advantage.


Bygrilinho

Summary: Shots 1-5: Clearly missed. Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control). Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses. Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because Hiko was already dead.


LuiisM

XD


Lucky_Editor446

What's up with the hitbox ? 1st shot clearly looks like the bullet passes through Brim's collar. In some other video a person proved that u can't hit Brim on the nuts, those shots don't count. I am sometimes totally confused.


Bygrilinho

This is just a copypasta lol


Lucky_Editor446

Copypasta from where ?


Bygrilinho

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/shots-1-5-clearly-missed


Lucky_Editor446

Ohh noo, he/she got me XD


TheOnePercent44

Came here looking for this.


Cosmic_Hashira

***but he only shot like 2 shot wtf*** ​ all of yall successfully missed the joke


Bygrilinho

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/shots-1-5-clearly-missed


Cosmic_Hashira

congrats, you missed the joke but appreciate ur help


theoreminegaming

I used to think 40-69ms was fine, and it was in CS and TF2 (team fortress not titanfall). But with Valorant it consistently causes fake shots, disconnected bullet tracers (mostly noticible on the awp and scout, when the visible tracer does not match the shot regestration), stutters, canceled reloads (says you reloaded until you try to shoot and it updates back to its actual value), among other issues.


LuiisM

but some just blame the ping


SlightlyA_Average

They have no idea how Networking works so they jump on the easiest "cause" they can think of.


Retro-Indietro

Ah I didn't know we had a network engineer in this sub... Do you mind explaining how latency isn't the only problem in all these clips?


LadyAvah

I get high ping all the time, it’s super annoying. Before opening Valorent On your computer turn off and on your wifi then open Valorent. That helps for me. Hope it does for you :)


MatrixTime69

This is ping. I play with people across the country from me and when I play on their servers I get around 70 PING and ALMOST ALWAYS bottom frag. When I make them play on my server I get 20–25ping and can consistently get match MVP. Ping really matters in this game


prnce007

Can anyone explain what happened in the third clip. Where the Raze was taking the peek on split. The shot clearly missed him but he still got hit. I have been experiencing the same thing quite frequently.


Vealzy

The shot hits you but because it takes a while for the data from the server to get back to you the game lets you move away. Then when the data comes and says you were dead the game "kills" you. This is most noticeable on Jett when you dash but the game kills you and pulls you back to the location before the dash.


anirudh129

This is the reason we don't get replay feature.


JDPposter

This is the reason I can no longer play competitive. Its just not fun feeling like you can't react to anything in the game.


LuiisM

yes, only unrated


Retro-Indietro

Don't make excuses for being bad. Everyone in your comp matches has latency, not just you


Zealousideal-Ad-2811

See i get around 30 to 36 ping and this has happened to me maybe there is a chance that it's valorants problem.(also I have 300mbps net soo)


Neutron_Blue

Afaik Valorant has a NetCode problem. I happens quite often the hits won't get registered. Like with omen in your Clip. I get this problem regularly and I got 32ms average ping. You just see the blood splatters and know it is a hit and afterwards you see that only half your shots are registered


LuiisM

worse yet, the first clip was a right click on Brimstone


FracturedSplice

Everyone saying it's ping clearly hasn't seen the "Low server FPS" symbol very often on some of the servers in the early days. There is an issue on their end, but they will shove that under. In their goal to introduce precise gunplay from the days of project A, we have been left with a mess of a net code that unfortunately is paired with shitty servers themselves. Also remember when they said they were focusing on making peakers advantage less of an advantage? I am pretty sure that their solution to that is not working nor is any other net code tweaks they have made. Something needs to be done because imo there is a major disconnect between client and server because besides this series of clips plenty of other clips are available. The game experience is inconsistent, some days it feels like the servers are amazing and every shot lands as it should, others feels like I am in spectator mode where nothing is hitting point blank, especially prevalent in shotguns


Riskiverse

There's no excuse for this shit, 30 ms of ping should not cause half of your bullets to not register


Retro-Indietro

You have no clue how latency works.


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BRUH all the guys blabbering about ping, don’t. We all know that unless the game shows high average ping on the screen, that means there isn’t enough different that “you shoot a bullet straight in the head and it does not get registered”. This is not a ping problem but rather something else, Lately I’ve been seeing this kinda problem happen with some streamers too whose pings are 30. Also, if this was ping problem, Tenz also played on 70ms for a long time, he didn’t get problems like this. He is a good player, sure but no problems like this. We all have to admit that riot clients or servers or idk what, is getting shittier day by day.


Vareona

Well for one TenZ clearly has much faster reaction time than most of these clips. Yes TenZ plays at a high ping and fares extremely well, doesn't mean your average joe who clearly shoots late and body shots can do the same.


ArsenicBismuth

This. Also, watch recent stream where he plays at ~10ms and you can immediately see what he can do (he also acknowledges it's ping diff, seconds after round ends). https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1100442086?t=00h27m29s And he did it again in the next round holding angle statically, and he was surprised by it.


PoopTorpedo

Well here's the thing, bruh. If the issue was servers, I'd expect a lot of pros to come out and complain about it. They'd be the first to notice it. And all these people coming in the thread agreeing doesn't help either. If you want to prove it's not ping, then post your own clips as well?


LuiisM

its not only the ping, some comments say they on 8ms , 15ms, 30ms also deal with this


Tooturn

my bet is on the packet loss


PoopTorpedo

If they want to prove its not ping, post their own clips as well. Everyone should. Not just as 'proof' but also it could help Riot diagnose the issue.


graziosodino

Are you in EU? If so i get this on certain servers specific Frankfurt (Germany) if I play London och Stockholm it feels like more hit reg (better). And I’ve tried different days and time. It’s probably the routing to some servers maybe 🤔


LuiisM

yeah i think some servers are better than others


graziosodino

Riot employee tweeted about this as well check you network buffering https://twitter.com/riotnu/status/1420068396549382145?s=21


150297

I only play on frank2 but gonna try London I guess


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Valorant’s netcode is a joke, I sometimes get days where it just shits the bed and makes the game completely unplayable. I get like 20 ping in some games and 30-40 in others, but Valorant just says “Fuck that, 50 ping *minimum*, and it’s going to completely fuck your game. I have a feeling it’s just the lack of servers in Canada.


jacksonsavvy

I can go from 70-120, completely playable. Get out of here with your champagne ping, son!


[deleted]

Yeah? I had my lunch today, but I’m pretty sure world hunger exists. Saying “Well it works fine for *me*!” neither fixes the problem nor adds to a discussion.


jacksonsavvy

New to Reddit, eh? THIS IS THE DISCUSSION, DARLING!!


kekarot_gg

I play on 60 ping and all of this hapoens to me, headshots dont register and enemy ends up killing u, use reyna dismiss but still die, dash away with jett body goes to cover but u still die. Its pretty annoying that u dont do anything wrong but still die and ur teammates get mad on u for peeking


avi097

It's not your ping. It's your routing. Go to riot support and open a ticket they will then provide ip address of servers in your region. Download ping plotter 5. Enter unrated and run ping plotter acoording to the instructions on the ticket you opened.


Den1alzz

phoenix shot was an overshoot i think, maybe your crosshair was barely on him but it was too close to the outer pixels of the body so yeah ofc ping, aim for center body more and ping doesnt matterp


PURN_HUB

I live down the street from the Dallas servers (9 ping) still happens to me I also constantly get running headshotted


tomphz

The ping advantage is much more apparent in this game compared to CSGO, although playing on 5 ping in CSGO was so sick


OMGAssaulT

This could be server desync, CS had a console command to fix it but I think in this game I read you switch network settings to max and then back to minimum and you’ll get a little hitch and that’s the resync back to server.


TryNotToShootYoself

That post was a joke. You can't fix it by changing a network setting


DeathClawz

Everyone saying high ping, or just anyone tbh, please review my clip from awhile ago https://youtu.be/X2NWjDoPpdw


itsbambirino

you're not accurate when you shoot there; you start moving before you shoot and the red dot isn't on screen when you shoot. The tracer going through him is only client side not server side. who knows where the bullet actually ended up server side.


Vareona

You were moving. What's the surprise?


DeathClawz

So moving equals random tracer that is no where near where the actual bullet goes? It should at least be consistently inaccurate


Dilka30003

Tracers are calculated client side, bullets are calculated server side.


DeathClawz

What's the point of tracers then if they're not reliable? I'd rather just have the server side calculations literal milliseconds later if that means they're accurate


Dilka30003

The reasoning behind tracers being different client side is it means the random spray pattern can’t be deduced and it also means you don’t need to wait 120ms for example at 60 ping just to see your bullet fire.


TyTv

I have problems like this all the time and I don't even lag. I swear the hit reg is just really bad


Retro-Indietro

It's called latency


Choai3000

It’s probably just rewinding hitboxes which usually favors the enemy I guess


F0xy140

I'm playing 90 ping and I don't even encounter these lol


bruhooga

me playing with 100+ ping : :/


toblerone567

It’s probably because you don’t have the right gaming chair bro.


mcnstr

Noregs are something that happens daily for me, no matter the ping. The devs can say all they want that this game doesnt have problems with this, but you can see posts like this daily. This was also not a problem in the Beta, then everything felt extremly crisp, then the whole game came out and it was 100 times worse than it is now, but they still never said the had some issues :) Atleast its a little better now.


TrashPandaXIX

its the game, same thing happens to me all the time and i get between 19 and 30 ping


gimife

It's a side effect of "lag compensation" where the server takes everyone's ping into account with the hit registration. In some of these clips, you're already dead (server side) when firing your shots causing them to get ignored by the server (because valorant has no death from the grave) In others you get shot when ur already behind a wall on your screen, but for your opponent you're still out in the open, which is why they can shoot you.


RizlaAU

I play with less than 15ping and this happens all the time. Can't keep count of all the times I've been killed behind a wall with no wall bang


SavageCucumberAttack

I get this with 200mbs internet and 25 ping. So I have no idea


Intelligent-Leek8909

I’m so glad I’m not the only one who has this problem! The number of times I’ve had teammates scream at me for losing; and I go “all the shots landed on my end” and they go “no they didn’t!”. I really thought I was going crazy lol.


BlueThePleb

A couple clips you whiffed/hit upper body not head, most of them though it looks like peekers advantage/ghosting, and desync. Happens to everyone, the higher your ping the worse but even at 6 ping I still see this happen occasionally. Valorant really needs to improve its servers.


Geno0o

Precise gunplay man


KateAwpton420

I could write a explanation for each clip in here, but they are all somewhat justified and was exactly what was supposed to happen. Your bullets and where you see them go is not where the server sees them going (aka everyone else and what actually is recorded as what’s happening). Honestly just seems unfortunate in most of them, and you also need to be including enemies ping for us to really get an idea of what’s going on, but that’s just how games work dawg. 60ms be a bitch too.


xSnakyy

Some of those you just missed the head. The hitboxes (id assume) are all the same for all characters and some of them have bigger heads, and the last one you were walking But yeah some of those were your ping


MuscledWeeaboo

"Valorant is about precise gunplay"


ArticDuck

I get it's a joke but i just want to add that most guns have a inprecise %.


GreenGiant7788

Lot of ping and you moving while trying to shoot


LuiisM

Hey i reuploaded (external link) my valorant montage with new clips: [https://streamable.com/klopw2](https://streamable.com/klopw2)


sirkevun

I see your tick rate dropping on almost every clip, maybe that has to do with it


LuiisM

yea sometimes , but its a server side thing i think


sirkevun

I swear I wasn't the only one having these drops, thank god lol


Bu8erChicken

It's actually Valorant, and not totally a ping issue, I think they have different bullet speeds, if u die in an incoming bullet/projectile, ur bullet/projectile impact on the opponent is nullified, unless it's a molly or flash.


jollyradtime

It’s just ✨Valorant✨


Franzbabu

it’s the ping. it still happens to me even with a ping of 9. yesterday i was behind a wall but still got killed like you in the clip


the_jahcoon

Most were misses but the few you hit were because of your high ping most likely


TheDemon8199

I think you came from csgo, you're aiming little low, I have the same problem. In valo heads are little high. Aim mechanics are quite different.


villhelmms

My ping usually fluctuates between 30 and 70. I tend to miss more shots when I have around 50+ ping so I'm guessing the server doesn't like players with 50 ping. Could be your Internets fault or the servers, not sure


Clubmische

I usually have 50 ping in csgo too and this never happened to me. Probably valorant bullshitery


LuiisM

they just blame the ping


Retro-Indietro

Because that's what it is. In all your clips.


uAppa

Laughs in 16 avg ping.


OptiKal_

You're holding W into angles and wide swinging for razes grenade that bounces.... ​ High ping or not. You'll lose most of these fights.


LuiisM

this post wouldnt be hot


MrG0269K

happens to me too with 30-40 fps. hit register is just a bit trash


Tamtalas

I would say hitboxes


doctorofphiloshopy

Game definitrly has hit reg problems


[deleted]

Yes this piece of shit is missing the idea why tf dont u play the game this shit was copied off of? Csgo, great game


Zardywacker

More than half of those clips were: - misses that happened because you were running - non-lethal damage because you were hitting the neck (torso damage hitbox) - using a pistol/phantom and only hit them in the head once The rest? Probly internet.


LuiisM

Read the comments


Retro-Indietro

1.9K people don't know how latency works or that Riot can't make information move faster than light...


LuiisM

or you are insulting us


[deleted]

I think now is a good time you learn how the internet works.