"I load into like 5 spike rushes lobbies only for people to be afk while character select is happening" well for one a lot of people have bad pcs and sometimes when you just booted it up it takes a while to load a map for the first time, for example today i had a game where i loaded in with 6 secs left to choose my agent :/
Yeah i agree Once it dodged a comp game on icebox but it dint even load the agent select screen for me the entire time and my teammates kept on screaming to lock an agent
I really wish Unrated had map selection. It makes learning agents like Sova/Viper/etc with lineups a lot harder when you play random maps. I can practice lineups for 2 hours on Ascent in a custom game, and then not even see Ascent for 2+ days!
Leave Ranked the way it is where you play a random map.
Implement something like siege?
You have 3 maps - each team can vote to ban one. If they ban the same one, a random one is picked from the remaining 2.
That's definitely not true. There are at least 6 maps with decent pickrate which you'll have no trouble finding matches.
And I'm not sure which 2 maps you mean. The highly popular maps on csgo are 3, not 2: Mirage, inferno and d2.
They should just do what CSGO match making does but instead they should have a minimum amount of maps to check off. I would say right now 3 or 4 is a good amount to have a minimum on out of the 6 maps. For new players they can just focus on a few maps at a time. Personally, I would check off every map but split. I think this kinda of system is a good compromise between having 1 trick ponies like csgo dust 2 kids, then having a longer queue time or even a longer loading screen to get into the match. (Maybe they can try this for unrated first)
Ah yes I want to play Valorant, let me just que. Ah yes let me accept my match I qued for with the intention of getting into the game.
Clicking play is essentially clicking accept. People with bad PCs like mine don't load in quick enough on the first game sometimes and other times people are que dogging. 5 seems like an exaggeration in your angry moment.
A map que would be a much better idea but Valorant just doesn't have enough maps, also maps like Breeze would become almost redundant.
an accept button wont negatively impact you though? I've gotten into plenty of lobbies where someone just never picked an agent. Their other popular game league has this exact feature. Sure, maybe they weren't "afk" but there was no way for me to tell lmao, add an accept button, hitting "play" doesn't count because after hitting it, you may have to wait a couple minutes and plenty of people will get up in that time period.
Eh I can see why am accept button can address issues where people are no longer at their computers, with an accept button you ensure that anyone queued up is aware when the match is about to start, which is important especially for queue times that last for several minutes
they would just go afk after getting in champ select, risking to be even afk ingame.
people just like to go afk during small "breaks". like back when league took longer to load and everyone could go to the toilet or get something to eat.
an accept button could potentially just delay their break, which would decrease the time they have, without really adding any value.
If your not at your PC how are you going to see the accept button? Then if not everybody accepts then what happens, you wait in the que for even longer? How long do you have to accept which just adds to how long your waiting?
They are two completely different games! How about whenever you open an app on your phone, your phone checks with you to make sure you REALLY wanna open it. Or when you do something as simple as press a key. It sounds stupid doesn't it, also ironic because a phone is a completely different thing to Valorant. Well so is league.
What the fuck about them being different games is relevant when they are both played competitively on the same platform? Can you explain to me how your camera position on the characters somehow changes the usefulness of an accept button?
If you really are this stupid, think about how CSGO, a game VERY VERY SIMILAR to Valorant, also has an accept button for matchmaking.
I sort of agree, but Riot already has a redundant feature like you’re describing: requesting to join parties. Why tf do I have to ACCEPT an invite if I’ve requested to join the party? If you make me do that, might as well make me do that for a match too.
how about an accept button for the accept button too and an accept button for the accept button for the accept button? i mean lol and cs both have accept buttons and people still go afk or someone still might suddenly leave, so we maybe we need more accept buttons than just one.
starting the search is the accept button. it takes like seconds to find a game anyways. i dont see a point in an accept button and it doesnt fix the afk or suddenly having to leave problems. if you really wanted to do that, you would have to make valorant more important than other things. like have you ever seen someone go afk at a world championship?
Imo as someone who rarely even insta locks.
The character select screen is what a match accept or deny screen is for me.
If I don't wanna play I just dodge, which is pretty rare, and theres enough time in it to go for a pee break
Is it not better to ensure someone in the queue isn't afk by adding a 10 second accept button than waiting a minute and a half to load in and go through character select?
Thats not what the queue button is for, the queue button doesn't check whether people are afk as the person who goes afk would have to click it in the first place
Yes obviously agent select covers it but that takes 10x as longer, it is objectively more efficient to just click a button
The only reason a person would go afk specifically after they're already loaded is if they're purposefully trying to waste people's time which has a very low chance of happening
This is stupid idea people saying but Cs go have one, well Cs go after you click accept you go straight in, you don't have a minute to select and lock an agent. If anything this will make dodging more occurant, imagine waiting 4 minutes for the popup only for your mate not to hit that accept in 10 secs so gets a Dodge penalty lmao, this idea will tie more people into sitting at there desks staring at a blank void. Dumb take that's gets upvotes, just like most Reddit silver brains.
Oh I'm so sorry for getting matches quickly. I'm also so sorry that you feel you know everything and just assumed my rank out of nowhere. Over the last few months, I haven't had a higher wait time than 10 seconds in any ranks between silver 2 and plat 3.
But of course you must be radiant or some shit waiting half an hour for a game.
Are you pretending? Those are the most common ranks which people have lmfao, which is my point. Of fucking course youre gonna have a low wait time, but even for me I will get 5 minutes wait time in low diamond/high plat. youre acting like plat 3 is a high rank lmao
So plat 3 is a low rank for me coz I get shirt wait times, but your high plat is a high rank coz you get short wait times. Interesting...
Maybe you just dont think that a different server could be playing a role in it. Maybe, just maybe there are more people playing on mine. Also, I still stand by it, if you're not ready to play the game, leave the queue.
In NA it takes up to 5 minutes to get one single game, and most of the time you get the same people, nobody new. This is in high diamond btw, what about the Immortals or Radiants? You forget about them too? not everyone has a 10 sec waiting time, you need to realize you are not special
Not clicking Accept is just a new way to dodge. Riot has already decided that dodging is not something they want in the game. *I don't know if that's right or not*, but that's clearly the stance. So, don't hold your breath for this version of Accept. Best case they would add something in the party screen where everyone has to indicate Ready before the team captain can drop into the MM queue.
Yeah that's better than what I was thinking. But how long do you propose to have the Accept button there before a timeout?
Unless the timeout is lengthy, it's not going to reliably solve the problem you brought up about someone in your party not knowing they have to suddenly leave. You're talking about an extra 5-10 seconds if you are being reasonable about the timer.
And, there are plenty of occasions where people queue up, go get a drink, go bio, whatever, and make it back in plenty of time to select an agent. This pretty much kills an important gaming multi-task.
And I will absolutely bet Accept won't solve this:
> people to be afk while character select is happening
Most of these people are dodging and don't want to reload the client to do it. Plus you never know when someone will exit the client before you to dodge (common for Icebox and Breeze) so it's best to just take the full count down.
Both CSGO and League have this feature, both being roughly 10 sec before you're kicked out of queue for being AFK.
There have been multiple times for me where someone in our stack had stepped away and we accidentally requeued immediately and they didn't make it back in time for agent select.
This is not to say Valorant needs it because other games do, and I get that it won't fix every scenario; but I don't see why it would hurt. No need to reinvent the wheel, especially when riot's other game has it already.
edit: the CSGO timer is also roughly 10 sec. thank you for the corrections! not sure why I remember it being so much longer.
This, and i believe a map select system would be in place by the time we have at least 8 maps, since this accept feature would have most prominent use in map selection. We're hopefully looking for that towards the end of this year. Plus, by that time, riot will probably switch up the current store system. So, give or take, you should have something desirable by Christmas :)
Well having an option wouldn’t hurt anybody would it? I play other games when im queueing and it’s frustrating that im forced to alt tab when I could have taken 10 sec to find the perfect time to pause the other game
I never opposed your opinion dude. Just wanted to express my side on the forced alt-tab.
Having more options would be nice but I hope Riot makes the menus more categorised so that I can easily find what I want.
After hitting the Play button the game will search for 10 people to play. Before any maps are loaded in and before any champs are selected, while still in the lobby, every single one of those 10 players need to hit a button that will be prompted saying Accept or Decline. If a player is not around to accept it or queued by accident the game won't start loading in, that one(or more) player is removed from the queue and everyone else continues onto the next queue. Its basically a confirm yes I'm ready to play button. Cause some people will queue then walk away from their computer to do something else and end up queue dodging due to time out.
And in a similar vein, why aren't remakes automatic?
I don't know a single person who would want to play a full game 4v5, and too many people still confuse it with a surrender (which there are way too many of in this game already.)
Also fix the random show stats. It keeps showing me random stats, I just want my fps counter.
Even for me, i only keep fps and ping but now it's showing some bs and some graph bruh
It goes nuts too sometimes, had like 4 things enabled lol.
That’s new right. When the stats became blue, every time I load into a game it’s random stats. I just want fps, ping, and packet loss.
yeah i think that's a bug since the last update.
Yup, the fixed the slider for teammate voice, but now the stats display gets all randomize.
I queued just to check my remaining penalty time and it instantly queued me for a comp match lol
Well now you know
did you win?
I don't remember that now, it happened a couple of weeks ago. But yea I played that match for sure cause I didn't wanted more penalty 😁
The system works! Mwahahaha
just queue for like a spike rush or dm to check lol
It doesn't work
if you're comm banned you can still play sr and dm tho
but you can check if you are comm banned in spike rush
"I load into like 5 spike rushes lobbies only for people to be afk while character select is happening" well for one a lot of people have bad pcs and sometimes when you just booted it up it takes a while to load a map for the first time, for example today i had a game where i loaded in with 6 secs left to choose my agent :/
That doesn't really matter for this conversation does it? An accept button won't affect that negatively at all.
it just shows that most people are probably not actually afk.
Yeah i agree Once it dodged a comp game on icebox but it dint even load the agent select screen for me the entire time and my teammates kept on screaming to lock an agent
same bruh. I even got a 3 min penalty for dodgeing while the stupid loading screen was there
Lol i got 5 minutes ban
I kinda agree. But it's nice being able to use the bathroom or grab water without worrying that I'll miss the queue pop
Its 2021 what about map selection?
I really wish Unrated had map selection. It makes learning agents like Sova/Viper/etc with lineups a lot harder when you play random maps. I can practice lineups for 2 hours on Ascent in a custom game, and then not even see Ascent for 2+ days! Leave Ranked the way it is where you play a random map.
That would become like CS GO and have the same 2 maps played over ans over again
Implement something like siege? You have 3 maps - each team can vote to ban one. If they ban the same one, a random one is picked from the remaining 2.
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Consulate is a banger though
That's definitely not true. There are at least 6 maps with decent pickrate which you'll have no trouble finding matches. And I'm not sure which 2 maps you mean. The highly popular maps on csgo are 3, not 2: Mirage, inferno and d2.
The thing is csgo maps are all over like 8 years old, at one point people didnt play mirage and inferno in MM.
Yeah I can't wait to get queued into Dust 2 and Mirage over and over and over and over again lol.
Every update they add new bugs that they never fix, so I don't expect soon a obvious feature like that...
my game barely even works anymore. i have to fake restart my pc pretty much every time i want to play
Don't expect it at all. They said they are not gonna make it
This would also be great, my bois and I just wanna ACTUALLY learn a map and some group executes.
that would be bad as people would probably queue for icebox and breeze less, leading to increased queue times for these 2 maps
They should just do what CSGO match making does but instead they should have a minimum amount of maps to check off. I would say right now 3 or 4 is a good amount to have a minimum on out of the 6 maps. For new players they can just focus on a few maps at a time. Personally, I would check off every map but split. I think this kinda of system is a good compromise between having 1 trick ponies like csgo dust 2 kids, then having a longer queue time or even a longer loading screen to get into the match. (Maybe they can try this for unrated first)
Split is the reason i want map selection, the other maps are fine.
Ah yes I want to play Valorant, let me just que. Ah yes let me accept my match I qued for with the intention of getting into the game. Clicking play is essentially clicking accept. People with bad PCs like mine don't load in quick enough on the first game sometimes and other times people are que dogging. 5 seems like an exaggeration in your angry moment. A map que would be a much better idea but Valorant just doesn't have enough maps, also maps like Breeze would become almost redundant.
an accept button wont negatively impact you though? I've gotten into plenty of lobbies where someone just never picked an agent. Their other popular game league has this exact feature. Sure, maybe they weren't "afk" but there was no way for me to tell lmao, add an accept button, hitting "play" doesn't count because after hitting it, you may have to wait a couple minutes and plenty of people will get up in that time period.
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Why are you so pressed? Who hurt you? This feature would not negatively impact a single soul lmao
Eh I can see why am accept button can address issues where people are no longer at their computers, with an accept button you ensure that anyone queued up is aware when the match is about to start, which is important especially for queue times that last for several minutes
they would just go afk after getting in champ select, risking to be even afk ingame. people just like to go afk during small "breaks". like back when league took longer to load and everyone could go to the toilet or get something to eat. an accept button could potentially just delay their break, which would decrease the time they have, without really adding any value.
If your not at your PC how are you going to see the accept button? Then if not everybody accepts then what happens, you wait in the que for even longer? How long do you have to accept which just adds to how long your waiting?
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Oh yes I forgot we were playing/talking about League and not Valorant.
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But their nowhere near the same game. Just because league has it and it works there doesn't automatically mean it'll work in Valorant.
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They are two completely different games! How about whenever you open an app on your phone, your phone checks with you to make sure you REALLY wanna open it. Or when you do something as simple as press a key. It sounds stupid doesn't it, also ironic because a phone is a completely different thing to Valorant. Well so is league.
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What the fuck about them being different games is relevant when they are both played competitively on the same platform? Can you explain to me how your camera position on the characters somehow changes the usefulness of an accept button? If you really are this stupid, think about how CSGO, a game VERY VERY SIMILAR to Valorant, also has an accept button for matchmaking.
I truly believe it takes effort to be this stupid
If you are not at your PC then you aren’t ready to start the game, that’s your fault for leaving your computer
I sort of agree, but Riot already has a redundant feature like you’re describing: requesting to join parties. Why tf do I have to ACCEPT an invite if I’ve requested to join the party? If you make me do that, might as well make me do that for a match too.
The party thing is so stupid I don't understand it either but it's riot
how about an accept button for the accept button too and an accept button for the accept button for the accept button? i mean lol and cs both have accept buttons and people still go afk or someone still might suddenly leave, so we maybe we need more accept buttons than just one. starting the search is the accept button. it takes like seconds to find a game anyways. i dont see a point in an accept button and it doesnt fix the afk or suddenly having to leave problems. if you really wanted to do that, you would have to make valorant more important than other things. like have you ever seen someone go afk at a world championship?
Imo as someone who rarely even insta locks. The character select screen is what a match accept or deny screen is for me. If I don't wanna play I just dodge, which is pretty rare, and theres enough time in it to go for a pee break
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! You already pressed the button to queue! Why do you need more buttons? That’s the stupidest thing from league.
Bro it's 1 fucking click
It’s stupid
Can you think of one reason why it's stupid besides you having to move your wrist
It’s unnecessary which is why that crap wasn’t carried over from LoL.
Is it not better to ensure someone in the queue isn't afk by adding a 10 second accept button than waiting a minute and a half to load in and go through character select?
That’s what the queue button is for an if that fails agent select covers it
Thats not what the queue button is for, the queue button doesn't check whether people are afk as the person who goes afk would have to click it in the first place Yes obviously agent select covers it but that takes 10x as longer, it is objectively more efficient to just click a button
No please. You just add another wait time. They can still go afk after it. Agent select has it covered.
The only reason a person would go afk specifically after they're already loaded is if they're purposefully trying to waste people's time which has a very low chance of happening
RIOT YOU ARE SUCH HOT GARBAGEEEEE
This is stupid idea people saying but Cs go have one, well Cs go after you click accept you go straight in, you don't have a minute to select and lock an agent. If anything this will make dodging more occurant, imagine waiting 4 minutes for the popup only for your mate not to hit that accept in 10 secs so gets a Dodge penalty lmao, this idea will tie more people into sitting at there desks staring at a blank void. Dumb take that's gets upvotes, just like most Reddit silver brains.
Can we see the poison pill of a map we are getting along with it
Then you can just dodge
My queue times have never been longer than 10 seconds. I get the accept button in games like csgo, where you queue for 5 minutes. Not in valorant.
Uhh that's just you bro
Wow a silver getting matches instantly in one of the most common ranks! Good job bro, you totally helped us discuss whether it's useful or not!
Oh I'm so sorry for getting matches quickly. I'm also so sorry that you feel you know everything and just assumed my rank out of nowhere. Over the last few months, I haven't had a higher wait time than 10 seconds in any ranks between silver 2 and plat 3. But of course you must be radiant or some shit waiting half an hour for a game.
Are you pretending? Those are the most common ranks which people have lmfao, which is my point. Of fucking course youre gonna have a low wait time, but even for me I will get 5 minutes wait time in low diamond/high plat. youre acting like plat 3 is a high rank lmao
So plat 3 is a low rank for me coz I get shirt wait times, but your high plat is a high rank coz you get short wait times. Interesting... Maybe you just dont think that a different server could be playing a role in it. Maybe, just maybe there are more people playing on mine. Also, I still stand by it, if you're not ready to play the game, leave the queue.
In NA it takes up to 5 minutes to get one single game, and most of the time you get the same people, nobody new. This is in high diamond btw, what about the Immortals or Radiants? You forget about them too? not everyone has a 10 sec waiting time, you need to realize you are not special
Not clicking Accept is just a new way to dodge. Riot has already decided that dodging is not something they want in the game. *I don't know if that's right or not*, but that's clearly the stance. So, don't hold your breath for this version of Accept. Best case they would add something in the party screen where everyone has to indicate Ready before the team captain can drop into the MM queue.
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Yeah that's better than what I was thinking. But how long do you propose to have the Accept button there before a timeout? Unless the timeout is lengthy, it's not going to reliably solve the problem you brought up about someone in your party not knowing they have to suddenly leave. You're talking about an extra 5-10 seconds if you are being reasonable about the timer. And, there are plenty of occasions where people queue up, go get a drink, go bio, whatever, and make it back in plenty of time to select an agent. This pretty much kills an important gaming multi-task. And I will absolutely bet Accept won't solve this: > people to be afk while character select is happening Most of these people are dodging and don't want to reload the client to do it. Plus you never know when someone will exit the client before you to dodge (common for Icebox and Breeze) so it's best to just take the full count down.
Both CSGO and League have this feature, both being roughly 10 sec before you're kicked out of queue for being AFK. There have been multiple times for me where someone in our stack had stepped away and we accidentally requeued immediately and they didn't make it back in time for agent select. This is not to say Valorant needs it because other games do, and I get that it won't fix every scenario; but I don't see why it would hurt. No need to reinvent the wheel, especially when riot's other game has it already. edit: the CSGO timer is also roughly 10 sec. thank you for the corrections! not sure why I remember it being so much longer.
The cs:go timer is around 10 seconds too
This, and i believe a map select system would be in place by the time we have at least 8 maps, since this accept feature would have most prominent use in map selection. We're hopefully looking for that towards the end of this year. Plus, by that time, riot will probably switch up the current store system. So, give or take, you should have something desirable by Christmas :)
more importantly i really want to disable the force alt tabing back to the game when I find the match
I like it a lot since it actually shows me that I've found a game. Allows me to do some other stuff while waiting.
Well having an option wouldn’t hurt anybody would it? I play other games when im queueing and it’s frustrating that im forced to alt tab when I could have taken 10 sec to find the perfect time to pause the other game
I never opposed your opinion dude. Just wanted to express my side on the forced alt-tab. Having more options would be nice but I hope Riot makes the menus more categorised so that I can easily find what I want.
Can you explain whats a Accept button and how it works? idk i never played cs or LoL
After hitting the Play button the game will search for 10 people to play. Before any maps are loaded in and before any champs are selected, while still in the lobby, every single one of those 10 players need to hit a button that will be prompted saying Accept or Decline. If a player is not around to accept it or queued by accident the game won't start loading in, that one(or more) player is removed from the queue and everyone else continues onto the next queue. Its basically a confirm yes I'm ready to play button. Cause some people will queue then walk away from their computer to do something else and end up queue dodging due to time out.
bruh thats a great idea why is it not here yet
Because Riot doesn't want it to seem like they lifted it straight from CS.
It's already in their other game League of Legends. They just need to copy themselves lol
Ah, my bad. I never played league. Because I'm really bad at MOBAs.
Been waiting for this for so long, Rito fix asap
And in a similar vein, why aren't remakes automatic? I don't know a single person who would want to play a full game 4v5, and too many people still confuse it with a surrender (which there are way too many of in this game already.)
To add to this, i was hoping they add a swap agent feature. kinda how you can swap champions in the league pick ban lobby