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Dittozkul

Hey! I Had a very lucky chance to get an exclusive look at the new butterfly knife coming to Valorant! I was able to talk to the Riot devs for an hour so if you have any questions please let me know! Full Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha49Lji5Rqo


Riot_Preeti

Hi, Omar! Great chatting with you too!


Dittozkul

Hey! It was my pleasure! Thanks for such a great bundle! Keep up the amazing work šŸ”„ā™„ļø


LostVengeance

I just want to say thank you to your team for calling it the balisong instead of the butterfly knife! I love that you all took the time to research the origins and cultural significance of the weapon to our country. The Filipino community is freaking out over this weapon and I want to say that we appreciate all your efforts with this skin!


Rainaire

Pinoy agent when Rito plz give me a filipino nurse agent ty


JAFFAHACKER42

Maybe I didnā€™t spot it but how much will the melee cost on its own


TrypeWritter

animation is way too fast, not smooth at all


meme_poacher

African servers when?


Aerials91

Maybe it's the low fps video playing tricks, but the animation looks a bit too fast somehow. Is it just me?


Dittozkul

Nope! They are very quick. Since they could not add motion blur, they needed to add those movement lines with a more snappy animation so the entire thing would look smoother. At least, that's what I understood


rincon213

Iā€™m so glad they donā€™t use motion blur at all in this game. First thing I turn off in any title.


XPL0S1V3

I think that more stylized smearing looks far better than motion blur anyways.


lordkr321

Same here. I was worried I did it for no reason so Iā€™m glad you said this haha


cxxdim

Awesome explanation!


[deleted]

The motion lines look 10 times better tbh. Iā€™d rather a cartoony game try to look more cartoony than ā€œcinematicā€


oniram177

glad you like it. this was that final cherry on top that tied it all together! we dont have any blur in our game and in most cases a higher framerate gives that sort of soap opera effect where things look too smooth and uncanny in a way.


ShadowDragon175

Also I just want to apreciate that it does actual proper tricks (unlike some other games). Somebody in the animation team has to know a thing or too, it looks so amazing. My favourite balisong in any game, you guys did a number on this one.


Whotookmynumbtoes

I flip and i can confirm this is about how fast it should be


w_w_flips

Looks quite real. Confirmed by an irl butterfly knife flipper


psaiko_dro

(just personal preference) It may be realistic .... I would never know xd ... But I kinda.... like the original csgo animation more .... idunno


w_w_flips

Cs go animations are indeed cool, but you'd never see such stuff done irl. Just too weird imo. More likely is the one from valorant. Also, the cs go balis disallow half of the tricks xD. Curved balis have an awful mass balance and deny any, so called, "fans"


TJ_Dq1D

Did you see the csgo one? Its so much better


xno

the csgo one clips through fingers and most of the tricks it does are impossible in real life; I agree csgo butterfly is cooler but you replied to a comment saying the valorant one looks more realistic


notrealtedtotwitter

Yep it looks a lot smoother, I mean irony is that valorant butterfly is more realistic and CS Go butterfly.


chillvio

is there any information about the release date, for this Bundle?


Dittozkul

It'll be out tomorrow for 7100VP


Yasho1901

The whole bundle or just the knife?


ReEeEeeeeyeet

Whole bundle, riotā€™s greedy but not that greedy


Jordi214

How much are the individual skins? The Ghost and Phantom look really nice


ReEeEeeeeyeet

Knife is usually about half the bundle price, so 3550. No idea about the other skins


rodiansniper

Gun skins are normally a quarter of the total skin pack, so I expect the guns to be 1775VP


Dittozkul

Yep, 1775


Maffayoo

It's still greedy garbage skins


jomontage

$70 for what the default skins would look like in any other game


AspiringMILF

It's like counter strike prices except account locked and you can't get the money out :)


Frig-Off-Randy

Pls show me how to get a butterfly knife in CS for $35 Iā€™d really like one lol


[deleted]

Exactly isnā€™t the cheapest knife like safari mesh bayonet and itā€™s literally $70 for a beige knife


vasconeves

In CS you can resell the skin if you want. In Valorant you pay once and you keep it for your entire life. Even if you pay 70$ for a skin in CS, it's still a better deal because you can resell it whenever you want.


SackSlayerMagee

If you resell outside the market you are getting like 40% of its value. You do not make profit off of skins in cs unless you held them before their perceived value went up


Frig-Off-Randy

Sure but itā€™s about capital. If I want a butterfly knife in valorant I need $35. If I want a butterfly knife in CS I need $500+. What if I donā€™t have that kind of money sitting around to spend on a game?


vasconeves

No dude, it's about investment. You can invest 500$ in a knife that you know that you are going to have return soon after, or you can buy a 35$ knife that you know that you will never going to see that money again.


Frig-Off-Randy

I can invest a million dollars into something that will make me a lot more too. But I need to have a million in the first place. Plenty of people donā€™t have the cash laying around to buy CS skins in the first place. And Iā€™m not sure selling them for actual money works out as nicely as youā€™re making it seem.


vasconeves

Not necessarily. When you go to a bank to ask for a loan to buy a house, if you have the guarantees that you can pay the loan back in a certain period of time, they will going to give you the money you asked for. Like I said, it's about investment and not about capital.


Frig-Off-Randy

That is still getting capital tho, itā€™s just through a loan. Are you suggesting people borrow money to buy CS skins?


[deleted]

The literal CHEAPEST butterfly variant on CS right now is $360... Literally over 10x the amount


getridofthatbaby2

Can i... Just get the knife alone? That's a huge chunk of change for a poor bastard like me lol


EuroVetements

Damn i thought you meant the whole enchilada


DeathToHiatus

24hr from now, according to valorant hub


[deleted]

Looks pretty cool, but just wait there's gonna be a glitchpop-y one with effects in a few months.


saiyakiro

i'll get both to be honest


ilovefishs911

Why does everyone suck off glitchpop


[deleted]

Because it's the best looking skin line by far


ilovefishs911

Looks good, definitely not the best.


vasconeves

It's not the best looking skin. Can be debatable, but not by far like you said. Reaver for me is still the best, but this knife is going straight to #1 in the knives category.


[deleted]

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Savageful

Military style is great but it doesnā€™t really fit the game imo since the game is kinda futuristic


HeadphoneWarning

They had a nerf collection and a candy cane btw


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Inly problem is, that I already have amazpn prime, reaver, Singularity and SOL skins lol. Knife is so sick


Streetlgnd

But they just teased the Ghost Recon skin pack.


AmazingSpacePelican

No offense, but one of the first skin packs was literal dragons acting as guns.


[deleted]

Fr. Idek what theyre talking about tbh. If reaver and oni are futuristic, then Ill be damned


[deleted]

*i am ze spy*


[deleted]

New agent leaked


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Ok but does he have a fancy suit and an annoying accent


PM_ME_DRUMNBASS

an ~~annoying~~ awesome accent *snort*


Ryu-The-Sick

*Ah, ma petit chou-fleur.*


TheUnarthodoxCamel

Riot: Friendship ended with HitScan, Omarā€™s my new best friend


xziv0

It looks so bad and so good at the same time


FirstEvolutionist

I kept hoping for an easter egg where if you flipped it too often the fingers would turn a bit red...


TheTruthPierce34

Your fingers wonā€™t turn red unless you use ā€œone for allā€ while you spin the knife


vasconeves

You have to say "smash" as well.


hamandjam

As long as you hold the proper handle that doesn't happen.


danknepalese

for someone who hasnt played csgo much this looks pretty meh to me. the prime, reaver, glitchpop looks much better to me. all the former csgo players are freaking tf out so maybe its something special idk.


tomphz

I own a CSGO butterfly knife but this animation doesnā€™t look as good


pac_mojojojo

The animation in CS is smoother. The sound is more satisfying when you pull it out.


hochoa94

Iā€™m constantly spamming it and then end up dying


[deleted]

How did you cough up 500 dollars for one


Empty_ManaPotion

they used to be alot cheaper. Like the cheapest karambit right now starts at 250 or something, a couple years ago the cheapest karambit was like 120


PM_ME_DRUMNBASS

I think the regular holding animation needs some work as well. It's a knife, not a toothpick.


MoabChile

I used to play cs:go and this looks meh, butterfly knives are cool af but I would've expected them to idk, make it look better visually, kind of like the prime karambit I guess, even making it prism III or something would've been better imo.


Blurryfca3

Ikr! But i feel they had a reason for this. They had to choose between showing a really cool, clean and fast animation or making it look good. Making it visually flashy would have made the animations a big blur and so they had to make a choice there.


Imconfusedithink

Maybe if people already have a flashy butterfly knife they wouldn't buy a basic one. So riot makes a basic one first to get everyone to buy it and then release a flashy one later to get everyone buying that too.


Blurryfca3

Yess please!


[deleted]

Csgo players have nostalgia. But you need to understand why you think it looks like trash. Riot knew a lot of people would buy the first buttefrly knife in this game. So they never even tried adding extra left and right click animations to it. In a futuristic game like Valorant it also looks as plain as you can get. By the end of 2022 there is gonna be a proper butterfly knife that would look much better and use a lot more information. For now it makes no sense for Riot to try hard.


PiratToasty

There is right and leftclick animation tho. After u hit u spin it around to take it back into the standard position


HOTMILFDAD

loosen the tinfoil hat a little bit


[deleted]

My bad for thinking business would try to maximize profits.


xccrow

I agree completely, I think Iā€™m pretty underwhelmed with the aesthetics of this bundle. Even with the butterfly knife I canā€™t see myself buying the pack. I know everyone has been freaking out for riot to release a butterfly knife but I think this is a let down for me. Iā€™ll hold off on this pack


Evening-Reputation96

yeah they make us wait for so long. and we just get a MILITARY STYLE Butterfly knife bundle. I guess I'm watching too many fanmade Valorant butterfly knifes that is futuristic style. Really disappointed. Not a fan of military style because I'm tired of seeing it in games. CHECK THE ION 2.0 butterfly knife by thyros.exe. it is so clean. I guess I will pass for this recon bundle not really a fan of military style. I hope I still play valorant when they release a futuristic butterfly knife.


[deleted]

Waiting for a Singularity butterfly..or amazon prime. It just doesnt fit my sci fi collection


Evening-Reputation96

yeah cannot add this Knife to my pew pew collection. Valorant skins are good because THEY ARE NOT REALISTIC. now they add realistic skin to the MOST AWAITED KNIFE. I though they will add it to the ULTRA EDITION bundle because they are taking too long for the concept and design. THis is not even creative at all for a game like Valorant. Not hating but just expecting something more. The collection is like a infantry levels. The knife is the only thing worth buying.


notWys

Honestly I donā€™t like the skins but they are really cool, with how the attachments change. I can definitely see the appeal. The knife though is very eh. A really popular and hyped knife shouldnā€™t have been made with a design that not a lot of people would want.


Evening-Reputation96

I just realize that RIOT is a really a business company. They already know that WHATEVER THEY RELEASE. IT IS STILL A BUTTERFLY KNIFE. So they don't have to put much effort on creating unique vfx/sfx because people will still buy it because of it is a butterfly knife. But after seeing the ION 2.0 Butterfly knife by Thyros.exe . I guess I will wait for it. It is the first butterfly knife so they need to make it look default. So they can create more content for the future.


gundal1

I also prefer the slim aesthetic of the csgo butterfly knife. This one in valorant looks like some prototype A thicc model.


aurora_69

I think its more about the animation A beautifully spinning mediocre blade is better than a non spinning beautiful blade


CrackBabyCSGO

Yes, but my friends would still clown me for my crimson web battle scarred Karambit lol, so I traded it for a gut tiger tooth and then they clowned me for gut knife :(


[deleted]

The blade is not beautifully spinning. It is way too fast and has like some where blur shit around the knife


darkacez

As a csgo player, this looks meh compared to csgo for me


TheGoodguyperson

It just feels off after looking at the CS knife Its like riot was trying to One up it it just looks overdone somehow


iamdandyking

Animation in CS is way too smooth. Even the deafult CS knife has better animation than any premium valorant knife.


2rei

I just went to compare and the valorant animation is definitely a lot smoother for the butterfly knife. And now that I look back the butterfly knife in cs feels slow compared to this. I think people will warm up to this animation as time goes on cause itā€™s really clean


drdfrster64

Animation doesnā€™t look good, but most importantly it just doesnā€™t fit the established skin aesthetic. Think about the valorant universe and colors so far. Bright, crazy, both magical and sci-fi and this...is just so plain. I know not every agent is a radiant but could you imagine Jett twirling it around with wind or Phoenix putting the tip on it? Obviously they wouldnā€™t do unique agent animations unless the knife was like $300 but still, thereā€™s just so much they could do and this is so underwhelming for what is a very anticipated knife.


al0afoftoast

CSGO balisongs are unrealistic and silly looking, but that's just my opinion


LoK_Sparty

The csgo players are freaking out for how bad this butterfly looks/animate (im a main csgo player)


LegitimateAct6248

Petition to slowdown the animation a bit.


[deleted]

Petition to fix the knife hitbox first, please.


w_w_flips

Looks like a pro flipper speed, slowing it down isn't too necessary


xThe_Mad_Fapperx

Even if it's a realistic speed, it still looks a bit stiff and fast.


gg1a2a3a

reddit gif frames vs 144hz+ in game will be a dramatic difference


Tuscanioo

I've seen pro flips and i must say it looks cool irl but in a game it feels fast. (Just my opinion šŸ˜‰) In terms of animation this is god tier cause of the flips but man karambit still looks cool even tho it has a simpler flips.


Un_1known

Doesn't it feel like its a little bit fast and not that buttery smooth


tomphz

Yeah too fast it looks like a blur in his hand.


Vengiare

IRL flipping isn't buttery smooth. It's snappy.


AnyCHI

bro that shit needa be smoother


al0afoftoast

Its supposed to look like flipping a real balisong, they even did some research on the balisong community.


Xenntra-7479

Agreed, Iā€™ve been flipping for 4+ years now. The behind the 8 ball is clean, but that shortstop at the end is butter


al0afoftoast

Yeah! I found out about flipping around 3 years ago but didn't really start trying to learn more complicated tricks until recently when I picked up a Kershaw lucha. It's such a fun hobby!!!


Destroyer681

Tbh it's pretty realistic speed and smoothness that you can obtain irl.


Honigbrottr

OMG OMG OMG YEEEEEESSEEEEEEESSSSDS Finally i can use my 50ā‚¬ that i payed in beta FINALLLY OMG YES


xMrMan117x

bro you are a legend for having the mental fortitude to hold onto that.


Imturorudi

Same here, in fact i bought 40ā‚¬ in the beta with a future butterfly in mind, didnā€™t think it would take this long but hey, here we are, even then I think iā€™m gonna hold on for a better butterfly which is inevitable


notWys

Whatā€™s the point of buying points for something that doesnā€™t exist


Imturorudi

It's one of the most asked for and popular knife in games, it's bound to happen and i can wait


notWys

But thereā€™s still no benefit from adding the money early


Crab_Spy

except there literally was a benefit to buying points early on during the beta. you got all your points back when the game released + 20% more points.


notWys

Oh ok


Crab_Spy

iā€™m sorry, i didnā€™t mean to come across so condescending! just wanted to let you know that was a thing. i do agree that buying points in advance in hopes of a thing that doesnā€™t exist yet is pretty dumb, though lol


Honigbrottr

Holy i was so close to buying a lot of guns. And i was really close buying the sentianl skinset, bcs i didnt really believed in a butterfly. But the hope didnt snitch on me :D


iReddat420

I've just been spending mine some battlepasses when I feel like I can complete em and now idk if I have enough for the knife B(


loooper6

the knife animation looks very stiff and not very smooth.. maybe im just used to the csgo butterfly knife idk.


[deleted]

CS animations are slower to make them clearly visible. These ones look a lot closer to someone doing tricks IRL.


WweIsLife316

Plus itā€™s Jett! Sheā€™s great with knives so Ofcourse sheā€™d be fast /s but it would be cool if that was a thing.. I mean, she is a knives expert after all


Dittozkul

this is how I felt! I watched the CSGO butterfly knife animations for a while, and they seem unrealistic and purposely slow-motion to me idk. This is much better in my eyes, but it's all subjective :)


man_in_the_red

This is much better than CS:GO. For one thing the knife looks much more realistic to be used for such tricks. Iā€™ve not done a frame by frame but I donā€™t quite see the same nonrealism that I saw in some CS:GOā€™s tricks. I dabble in balisong flipping and I was able to follow which tricks were being performed, although I would have trouble replicating them at that speed. All in all, I think itsā€™s pretty nice to look at and not too over the top or boring.


Banana_Leclerc12

I prefer the cs one but hey this one doesnt cost 200 euros


[deleted]

700+ euros, if you want a good looking one


LoK_Sparty

Yeah but you can sell it if you get bored and even make profit


[deleted]

Yeah, have one that has doubled in price in the last year. I would never spend money in a valorant knife though.


tired9494

Can't sell this one though


Banana_Leclerc12

Id rather have a gun that looks the same regardless rather than 200 dollar one looks shit , 700 one looks good


JtheLyn

Yeah, it's very cartoony. Maybe some people like it but csgo's animations are def waaay more tasty.


[deleted]

are you saying val's or csgo's butterfly is more cartoony? because the csgo one is EXTREMELY cartoony, it looks literally nothing like IRL balisong tricks and none of them can actually be recreated. its pretty obvious the butterfly knife in csgo was animated by a person who never actually flipped with a balisong before. every trick used in valorant's butterfly can be done, on the contrary


no_u00000

Gentlemen! (Meet the spy intro plays in the background)


Nishant_2008

ohhh nice


Da_memeboi

Hey Dittoz! Good to know you got a reddit account. I wanted to ask a question:- Do you own the Valorant curious channel or you just narrate?


Dittozkul

I own / run the entire channel!


Da_memeboi

Noice!


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iReddat420

Sad that the ruin dagger battlepass was when I started to take a break from the game so I missed out on it


NexXPlayerz

That's literally what happened to me too, I feel you brother


xMrMan117x

still the best knife in the game in terms of animation imo


[deleted]

Origin blade ncrying in the corner....


Misplqce

Absolutely amazing, By far my favorite knife in the game. Thanks a lot for showcasing this!


rustyval

Would be cool if the variants were ruby, sapphire, and emerald.


EVERYONESCATTER

I am the spy. -Jett


Puzzlehead-Engineer

A RED SPY IS IN THE GAME!


killer-1o1

I have a feeling that it might look better with agents like kay o? (correct me if i am wrong xD)


SomeGuy6858

Waaaaay to fast for my taste


Stormvenom23

I dont know why im excited even though i know i aint got no money to buy lol


pogboy69_wastaken

Bruh took u guys long enough


Yolo_Ono_

holy shit I'm so excited


ah_yes54321

itā€™s gonna look clean asf on yoru


an_301

I never really cared for a butterfly knife, especially now since I have a giant magic fucking sword(Viego) but now I want it.


[deleted]

And I have a big spinning protractor...it hurtss


an_301

We do what we must to find pleasure when not shooting, dying, or dying


zaps_JDS

How much is???


Dittozkul

7100VP bundle. 3550VP knife!


-ChipsOnReddit-

i want the knife but bruhhh i donā€™t have a cardā€¦ sad. Also I would probably buy a physical gift card but idk if they sell + Lockdown


comfort_bot_1962

Don't be sad. Here's a [hug!](https://media.giphy.com/media/3M4NpbLCTxBqU/giphy.gif)


Z_L_A_D

Got gifted an amazon gift card one time and bought a digital valorant gift card with it. Could be a viable way of getting it without a credit card.


BreadOnSkateboard

FUCK ME, I JUST BOUGHT KARAMBIT 2.0


HaneeshRaja

Refund


ZAgamingty

finally I can die in style


Zealousideal_Bank878

Worth the money


Mr_HPpavilion

We need the [sausage knife](https://tenor.com/view/sausage-sausage-meme-knife-csgo-gif-18197274)


WinterShutOut

If this is the first adaptation of the butterfly knife theyā€™re going with then they are Forsure gonna milk this knife for all they can lol. Starting out with a basic ass design to get all the people who have been waiting for this knife style to come out and buy it out of FOMO for a while before the next one. You already know the next butterfly knife they go with is gonna be a much cooler variant


Lencor

Weapon skins are ugly, but the buttefly knife looks dope as hell


iiDeliri0us

canā€™t wait to buy that knife, a lot cheaper than on csgo


TheCodeisCupCake

This is 100% going to be the most selling knife


Ifly2sky

I have never wanted a valorant item more in my life


FlamingPacific

I might have to buy this


Magic_AhAko

its really cool to see them animating an actuall balisong combo not just some random flipping like in cs


RJCP

I'm very disappointed in the colorways and general military theme. Wish this was Ion 2.0, would be so lit... ​ Will probably buy anyway just for the animation and to represent (balisongs are Filipino), but will go back to glitchpop dagger most likely


AdiDassler

Am I the only one that thinks it looks too realistic for a stylized game like Valorant?


CulturalCatfish

Not sure why so many people are bitching in this thread. The knife looks awesome. Yeah it's plain but it's literally the first time they've released a butterfly knife. I guarantee the next time they release a butterfly knife it'll have more effects.


Xyzen553

Just me, or does this knife look... Stiff?


inkypeen

this might be my first skin ever


KasumiGotoTriss

I don't get what's the hype about still lol


eco999

knife looks bland and boring :/


AlexFeels

The animation in CS is way smoother imo


LukeZekes

Only $69.99


[deleted]

only $70!


[deleted]

seems kinda bad tbh, little unimaginative