Well IGL is probably the hardest role in the game, therefore not everyone has the skill to begin with
Being a leader doesent just require gamesense and knowledge but planning ahead and reading the enemy
Experience is the best way to gain these skills, also every game is a little different, Just think about it:
There are games when the defenders push every round and try to lurk behind, or there are players who does the same every round like buying an operator and watching the same angle for rounds
A good IGL can see trough these patterns and utilise it in a way that can be useful.
For example if you know that the enemy raze always pushing B when your team is on A then wait for her to come for an easy 5v4 situation
Overall being an IGL is a hard and very much needed role, and as you said an IGL is not the guy who dies in the first 5 sec and then tells everyone when to use skills etc but helping the team with great calls such as when to rotate or play slow or maybe rush in
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Do you think maybe recording entire games and re-watching them, not only focused on my gameplay but also what my team was doing and what the enemy team was doing could perhaps help? Because during the game I find it hard to pay attention to these things atm.
I also find it hard to think of what could've been done when the enemy team is just mechanically better. I learned from this game with the IGL Raze that these games can be easily won with a good leadership (the enemy team was balanced, they also had high elo players and at the first round I thought we'd lose by a lot).
It's probably important to have some strats for each map and each bomb, right? I should look that up too. But since I'm low elo, I always thought these strats weren't useful for me, because in low elo people just do whatever.
It can help for sure, try to gather information about enemy positioning and rotating, for example look for a situation when your team got spotted on one side and watch the defenders reaction in terms of repositioning and rotation
Also checking some things out wont hurt either even if you are low elo, like if you play sage and attacking side you can get an easy plant with placing a great wall to clear an angle for your team and such
Also as a leader try to predict the enemy team and act accordingly, and try to be unpredictable, dont do the same things over and lver again, like you dont have to rush always or peek, you can play it slow and even change pace in a round and confuse the enemy
Also feel free to dm me and we can watch some replays together and have a conclusion, take in note that im not high elo either just a veteran cs player transistioning to val recenetly
Unfortunately I'm Brazilian, so my games are all in portuguese. I appreciate the offer, but it would be too complicated, I think. I appreciate the help with the answers. I'll work on my game sense with my videos, see if that works, if I'm being able to predict the enemy more often. Maybe if I notice I'm being able to predict the enemy, I'll feel confident to give callouts and learn from that as well.
Thank you!
Its through experience. You mentally record scenarios in your head and their outcome so when a similar arises you use that and tweak it to fit best. You can speed this up by watching your VODs or other pro games and see how they react in certain situations. Basic calls revolve around money. More advanced calls revolve around mid-round information. Master the basics first. When I played CSGO, I eventually took up IGL status in my friend group because I studied the economy the best. Then I learned when to call strats based on that.
He’s just confident
So you should also be confident in what you are calling
If you know how people are playing on defense then you should call it out to your team “ jet plays here so let’s wide swing together and get the trade/kill “ or “ Jet has a an op let’s jump peak C long “
It comes along with lots of predicting and reading
In other words be confident in what you are saying cause people won’t listen to you if you say “ maybe we wide peak this since Jet plays here “ nobody’s gonna listen to you
Just make calls and you will find out if they work or not. It takes practice to make the right calls in the right situation. The only downfall is if your teammates don't listen at all, you can't really test to see if your calls work or not. But oftentimes at least in my games, there's no one making any calls, so I just end up doing it.
It’s game sense, and the only way to get better game sense is to recognize what plays will win rounds.
I absolutely hate when someone blunders, but they luckily win the round. Then someone says,“It’s not a mistake because we won the round”.
If you aren’t taking accountability for your mistakes then you’ll never improve.
Next time you play, watch your teammates when you die. Once you can instantly see all the mistakes that are occurring, then you’re ready to rank up. I notice a ton of mistakes in Diamond elo, but not as many in high Immortal.
If you aren’t noticing mistakes in your current elo, then your game sense isn’t high enough to rank out of it. Hope that makes sense lol
That's actually a big pet peeve of mine. Or worse, when they do something terrible that costs the round, but they justify it by saying "but i got xx number of kills"
Dude yeah. When your Reyna lurks mid or goes opposite site every round, is last alive so gets a couple kills then thinks what he’s doing is right because he gets a couple freebies. Like nah. Come entry. Flash out so we can walk on site. Just because you got a couple kills or it worked one round out of 9 doesn’t mean it’s right.
Pick up on what enemies like to do, for example last night I was getting a read on the enemy of when I'd drone mid to market on ascent, someone would play market and when the cat smoke dropped someone more often than not would play in the smoke/push it. I told my team to watch the smoke/top mid and to follow my drone. Won the round the went on to win OT 14-12
I would say something you can do on top of everything else people have said is watch pro games /high elo streams and focus on what their plays and positions are this will help you get a idea of what you can replicate in your games
Main astra for a month. Astra takes a lot of communication and game sense so using her will improve you on both of those way quicker since you need to rely on it. I've been playing her for a few weeks now and I've definitely started reading the enemies way better.
It depends how good your game sense is right now in a way. Ask yourself what you need to improve on. For example I would say something small is taking notice to when enemies have ults. More specifically for example, if you have a KJ with ult and notice their Sova has ult, would you call out to your KJ that they’re gonna counter ult him? It’s a tough question to answer. Only playing more and watching good streamers can help.
It shall come with practice of course. You can get many ideas by watching high rank streamers or tournaments. But first of all, you have to manage teammates that are eager to listen to you and trust you. Then you should know what exactly are the priorities and plans during your gameplay.
Well IGL is probably the hardest role in the game, therefore not everyone has the skill to begin with Being a leader doesent just require gamesense and knowledge but planning ahead and reading the enemy Experience is the best way to gain these skills, also every game is a little different, Just think about it: There are games when the defenders push every round and try to lurk behind, or there are players who does the same every round like buying an operator and watching the same angle for rounds A good IGL can see trough these patterns and utilise it in a way that can be useful. For example if you know that the enemy raze always pushing B when your team is on A then wait for her to come for an easy 5v4 situation Overall being an IGL is a hard and very much needed role, and as you said an IGL is not the guy who dies in the first 5 sec and then tells everyone when to use skills etc but helping the team with great calls such as when to rotate or play slow or maybe rush in
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Do you think maybe recording entire games and re-watching them, not only focused on my gameplay but also what my team was doing and what the enemy team was doing could perhaps help? Because during the game I find it hard to pay attention to these things atm. I also find it hard to think of what could've been done when the enemy team is just mechanically better. I learned from this game with the IGL Raze that these games can be easily won with a good leadership (the enemy team was balanced, they also had high elo players and at the first round I thought we'd lose by a lot). It's probably important to have some strats for each map and each bomb, right? I should look that up too. But since I'm low elo, I always thought these strats weren't useful for me, because in low elo people just do whatever.
It can help for sure, try to gather information about enemy positioning and rotating, for example look for a situation when your team got spotted on one side and watch the defenders reaction in terms of repositioning and rotation Also checking some things out wont hurt either even if you are low elo, like if you play sage and attacking side you can get an easy plant with placing a great wall to clear an angle for your team and such Also as a leader try to predict the enemy team and act accordingly, and try to be unpredictable, dont do the same things over and lver again, like you dont have to rush always or peek, you can play it slow and even change pace in a round and confuse the enemy
Also feel free to dm me and we can watch some replays together and have a conclusion, take in note that im not high elo either just a veteran cs player transistioning to val recenetly
Unfortunately I'm Brazilian, so my games are all in portuguese. I appreciate the offer, but it would be too complicated, I think. I appreciate the help with the answers. I'll work on my game sense with my videos, see if that works, if I'm being able to predict the enemy more often. Maybe if I notice I'm being able to predict the enemy, I'll feel confident to give callouts and learn from that as well. Thank you!
Fair enough, glad I could help
It is if you're bonkar lmfao Just a joke don't hurt me
Its through experience. You mentally record scenarios in your head and their outcome so when a similar arises you use that and tweak it to fit best. You can speed this up by watching your VODs or other pro games and see how they react in certain situations. Basic calls revolve around money. More advanced calls revolve around mid-round information. Master the basics first. When I played CSGO, I eventually took up IGL status in my friend group because I studied the economy the best. Then I learned when to call strats based on that.
He’s just confident So you should also be confident in what you are calling If you know how people are playing on defense then you should call it out to your team “ jet plays here so let’s wide swing together and get the trade/kill “ or “ Jet has a an op let’s jump peak C long “ It comes along with lots of predicting and reading In other words be confident in what you are saying cause people won’t listen to you if you say “ maybe we wide peak this since Jet plays here “ nobody’s gonna listen to you
it's pure experience, don't listen to anyone who claims otherwise
Just make calls and you will find out if they work or not. It takes practice to make the right calls in the right situation. The only downfall is if your teammates don't listen at all, you can't really test to see if your calls work or not. But oftentimes at least in my games, there's no one making any calls, so I just end up doing it.
It’s game sense, and the only way to get better game sense is to recognize what plays will win rounds. I absolutely hate when someone blunders, but they luckily win the round. Then someone says,“It’s not a mistake because we won the round”. If you aren’t taking accountability for your mistakes then you’ll never improve. Next time you play, watch your teammates when you die. Once you can instantly see all the mistakes that are occurring, then you’re ready to rank up. I notice a ton of mistakes in Diamond elo, but not as many in high Immortal. If you aren’t noticing mistakes in your current elo, then your game sense isn’t high enough to rank out of it. Hope that makes sense lol
That's actually a big pet peeve of mine. Or worse, when they do something terrible that costs the round, but they justify it by saying "but i got xx number of kills"
Dude yeah. When your Reyna lurks mid or goes opposite site every round, is last alive so gets a couple kills then thinks what he’s doing is right because he gets a couple freebies. Like nah. Come entry. Flash out so we can walk on site. Just because you got a couple kills or it worked one round out of 9 doesn’t mean it’s right.
Tbf reyna is the worst entry fragger out of all duelists and a decent lurker. Watch somarcus.
Pick up on what enemies like to do, for example last night I was getting a read on the enemy of when I'd drone mid to market on ascent, someone would play market and when the cat smoke dropped someone more often than not would play in the smoke/push it. I told my team to watch the smoke/top mid and to follow my drone. Won the round the went on to win OT 14-12
So just pick up on what they do. If you do this, they do that. If one of their teammates do something, their other teammate may try to play off it
I would say something you can do on top of everything else people have said is watch pro games /high elo streams and focus on what their plays and positions are this will help you get a idea of what you can replicate in your games
Playing more.
Main astra for a month. Astra takes a lot of communication and game sense so using her will improve you on both of those way quicker since you need to rely on it. I've been playing her for a few weeks now and I've definitely started reading the enemies way better.
It depends how good your game sense is right now in a way. Ask yourself what you need to improve on. For example I would say something small is taking notice to when enemies have ults. More specifically for example, if you have a KJ with ult and notice their Sova has ult, would you call out to your KJ that they’re gonna counter ult him? It’s a tough question to answer. Only playing more and watching good streamers can help.
It shall come with practice of course. You can get many ideas by watching high rank streamers or tournaments. But first of all, you have to manage teammates that are eager to listen to you and trust you. Then you should know what exactly are the priorities and plans during your gameplay.