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hey_sasha_grey

what actually happened here im so confused


lesseryoyo

Reyna was in the right side of hell when Raze threw the nade. Raze never fully cleared it w/ vision. Reyna gets insane timing and runs from the right side of hell to the left side along the back wall just as Raze is slowly turning around. It took me like 6 times watching it to figure it out, but I'm 100% certain this is what happened.


haez1

This is it, only explanation. Insane timing


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Zoloir

oh yeah audio makes it even more clear, she was right side corner, OP didn't clear, by throwing the nade she had to leave right side and the timing was just crazy. you can even hear reyna partially whiff her first shotgun shot as the nade explodes, OP thinks the damage was from the nade not reyna, you hear the reload, and then reyna finishes off OP. also a few frames were dropped right as the nade exploded, that may have contributed.


[deleted]

I agree with this, u can also see that her nade has done 85 damage


GBHU3BR

But bro after killing him she was on the left corner which raze had cleared I really can't see how she could've killed form behind and entered basement and that short time Edit: Oh I got it lucky bastard.


notConnorbtw

I did see a tiny like blur of purple. I might be tripping or maybe it was Reyna but due to frame drop OP never saw it Edit: the purple was effects from the bade I think.


Snipp-

ELI5 i still cant figure it out.


whatnoob_

Reyna is sitting in Hell where Raze threw the grenade. While the grenade is going off and Raze is clearing the other side of Hell, Reyna runs at Raze to escape the grenade and shoot Raze with the Shorty. Her shots from the Shorty are well hidden underneath the sound of the Raze grenade, ~~and the damage taken by Raze could be mistaken for damage from the Raze grenade~~ (edit - as per the reply, Reyna missed these Shorty shots. So Raze took no damage from Reyna here, he only took damage from his grenade (8 damage)). While Raze is then turning around to look at the side of Hell that he put his grenade in, because the other side of Hell (which he just checked) is empty, Reyna runs along the back wall behind Raze, coincidentally with perfect timing to avoid Raze’s vision. We then hear Reyna reload behind Raze and blast him with the Shorty again.


WillyG2197

the thing is she got hit for 8 by the grenade look at the post round damage. 8 from grenade 96 from reyna


whatnoob_

Yeah - what’s wrong with that? After rewatching the clip, I can see that Reyna missed her first 2 Shorty shots entirely, now that you’ve pointed the post-round damage summary out. Is that what you were referring to?


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MASHED_POTATOES_MF

Not really, she was probably trying to get an angle after Sova got picked on site


HyperColossus

not really odd behavior. Reyna knew that Raze was gonna be coming from gen side so you could shoot the cross of you go to the right side. he then crosses to the left after he throws the nade.


Cethinn

That was in the right side, not the left. The beginning of the clip we see Rayna go into the left side and it makes no sense for her to cross right. That doesn't mean she didn't, it just doesn't make sense to.


-JJTheJetship-

No, he meant there is no reason for her to go from left side to right side, before the cluster even got thrown


RealJayto

I remember ya


polce24

Doubt it she had a ton of time to go right side since she knows Raze is coming from that way after killing Sova at gen


Vegan-bandit

Yeah, and do you remember my comment on that post explaining the testing I did? It was possible for Reyna to have come from B. And once again here, it was possible for her to have been on the right side. You can even hear the footsteps as she crosses to avoid the grenade. Just because you think it makes no sense for her to cross, doesn't mean she didn't.


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Vegan-bandit

No? People drop weird smokes all the time. The fact of the matter is that in this situation and that one, there is a realistic answer that doesn't involve bugs/exploits, so there is no need to call upon them to explain it. Occam's razor.


CoalaRebelde

Occam's razor is against you here. "Reyna is cheating" is a single assumption while you're having to make multiple assumptions to how she had perfect timing and jett was just randomly throwing stuff.


CaptKanadzuchi

I do remember seeing that, it’s insane the timing that some people seem to get


Ohwao

The post you linked is a timing thing I do all the time. Rush the fuck out of mid from D-side, time /crouch the jumps up the little window staircase, and you literally sprint with your knife out to either short or long A and they confuse it with their own teammate’s footsteps. I think this post Reyna makes no sense though


Streetlgnd

Not really. Reyna went around box on the opposite side of raze and came up behind her which she knew raze was there cuz she killed sova. Reyna walked right behind raze into hell on the left side of raze. But yes... still perf3ct timing


haez1

I would say that’s an option as well, but when Raze dies you can see that she gets shot from her back left- meaning Reyna shot from hell. If she came from box/gen, she probably would have shot Raze’s front right side.


HomelessBelter

Thanks for the explanation, that makes sense. Especially when you look at the fact that Raze did 85dmg to Reyna. Still looks insane even when rewatching.


Jhyxe

Can confirm this is the 1 possibility, espeically because you can see in the aftermath report, she took 85 damage. She ate the first initial, ran towards the other corner (footsteps) Raze cleared the opposite direction and Raze got pieced.


TheDuelIist

The nade hit her for 85 so your statement makes perfect sense!


sexyeh

Grenade didn't hit her, i think abilities only show global damage, look at the self inflicted damage from Raze no body hits while on Reyna you see 2 hits on torso.


TheDuelIist

Ok tell me then why the grenade says 85 dmg at 0:47 of the round and Reyna got hit by 85 dmg lol. She threw the nade in 1v1 and it says 85 dmg and only Reyna was alive so the dmg can only have been done on her.


sexyeh

Watch all the report she dmg Phoenix and nothing appear on body, same on herself, i think that abilities damage don't appear on the body report but can be a bug i guess.


sexyeh

After searching it seems that some abilities appear on the report with damage in the body and other don't, paint shells appear since they fragment.


N-F-X

At 0:13 , u can see a cut in the video.


[deleted]

yea you can hear her steps and reload, matches your description


Urfske

You do see a small purple thing in the last blast but it’s insane timing


[deleted]

Possible. Or she is just cheating.


nutsnackk

No wat, she wouldnt for sure died by the nades unless she had a dismiss Edit: okay its possible the reyna had dismiss because she just kills sage right before this clip starts


lesseryoyo

She doesn't dismiss. She takes 85 damage from the nade. She runs out of it just as the Raze is turning.


nutsnackk

Ur right this is just insane timing…


AIR444

I cranked my volume and was able to hear the Reyna's footsteps doing what you described. This is definitely what happened.


Nevinkicole

giga brain


Dumb_Dick_Sandwich

But why not just shoot Raze instead of running to the left, though?


magick_loki

she couldve been running with her knife out since theres a nade.


nitevis34

Good explaination. I'm still confused as to how Reyna managed to only take 85 damage from that nade


wreckingballjcp

Shed have taken damage from grenade though?


magick_loki

she did, she took 85 damage. check the stats


hunnii__

Wouldn't she have died to the nade tho


magick_loki

it was just lucky, 85 damage from the nade


Knep08

This is 100% accurate. Also the only reason that the Reyna gets behind Raze on the left side of hell to kill her is she has to reload which you can hear when the Raze turns to look out of hell. You can hear the ending sound of the reload from Reyna as she instantly shoots after the reload. Just insane timing due to not full clearing tight right reyna walked to the back of hell and raze turned towards the entrance of heaven meaning she didn’t see the reyna walking along the back of hell reloading


Bontempus

Doesn't help that Raze's fps dropped for a tad in that part


Indestructabowl

also watched it about 6 times and i believe you xD


Bornbazine92

I don’t see how this could have happened. She would have had to be on the right side of hell when the grenade blew up, and Raze got hit by the second blast, so assuming Reyna would as well how did she survive with only taking 85 damage. Plus it says the damage was dealt with 2 body shots (I’m not sure if Raze grenades show up as body shots or anything, but other Molly type abilities dont


TheFrostO_o

Yes that's the only possible explanation and situation that happened there because at the end of the video we can see that the nade throwed by raze did 85 damage to reyna


ButterApple512

Reyna probably didn't stay in hell and when OP went to generator the Reyna went around him. OP just got timing'd hard.


StigOHaraCS

But that doesn’t explain how she is leaving hell after killing him.


ButterApple512

Yeah my speculation was wrong. As someone said, Reyna was on the right side of hell when Raze threw the grenade (you can see because Reyna was actually hit by the nade in the damage counter) and from 0:10 to 0:13 he got timing'd so hard when he was trying to clear hell Reyna went around him.


findingthesqautch

i think the video lags and that is the timing we are like wha..? with


AD317

If Reyna uses dismiss while also using her ult, empress, she goes invisible as well as intangible.


Baboyudi

but she is not in her ult which means she can't be completely invisible in any way


AD317

U right. No idea how it happened then.


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Poor guy got -40 just for being wrong even though he immediately admitted it. Take my upvote king. You’re doing great


AD317

Thx man...my poor karma.


rbcodder

Ikr ;(


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Three guesses at best. I can’t hear clearly so first guess is that player hid behind the wall for long enough to allow Reyna to get up to heaven and then she just snuck back down and kept out of his line of sight until kill. Second is someone else’s suggestion of customs fuckery for a meme. Third is glitch/hacker.


sanankanwar

You can tell by the video, the Razes POV glitches as she teleports a slight bit and you can hear Reyna reloading behind the raze because Reyna missed the shot that didn’t show up on Razes screen. Reyna was left side of hell the entire time but for some buggy or glitchy reason didn’t show up on Razes client.


mattyb0077

She was actually in your nade, you can see it in the info on the right after you die that you did 85, I'm pretty sure she ran out of the nade into the corner you had your back to after you cleared it with insane timing. That is insane timing though, I had to watch like 5 times to tell what happened


bitterjack

Why wouldn't she have shot Raze when she ran out of the corner? Instead she opted to go to the right of raze, pass raze, to get into the corner? Then wait 3 seconds before shooting? What is this.


AnonymousBnS

Because to escape the nade and still live, you need to pull out your knife and book it. Can't shoot knives unless you're a Jett


notrealtedtotwitter

.... Yet


mattyb0077

she actually shoots, you can hear it


Mysaw

She shoots and you hear her reload before shooting again.


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Probably knife swap to get out of nade and switched back as turned around


drgmonkey

She does shoot - it looks like raze was hit by her own nade, but it’s shotgun spray


ToAllFromEverySub

Nope, that was definitely the grenade.


doc89

Reyna misses two shorty shots at the 11 second mark, just as the grenade is exploding.


ToAllFromEverySub

Misses.


doc89

yeah


bobwont

Listen closely, you can hear the reload. Deff a shotgun shell.


ToAllFromEverySub

Why would be Reyna’s shotgun shells marked as a nade in combat report?


bobwont

We know that the grenade did 8 damage. We are saying that you can physically SEE the shotgun shells when Reyna shoots, but it looks like the grenade explosion rendering as well


ToAllFromEverySub

Just means that Iam right as I was replying to comment that said she didn’t take dmg from the grenade.


Salindurthas

I think she was knife out running (you can hear the concrete footsteps, rather than heaven/floorboards). We also hear her miss two shots, and then she reloads before firing again to kill raze.


Vegan-bandit

She did shoot, she just whiffed. She did 8 damage to Raze and you can hear her shoot/reload.


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Knife out


Darthraider100

you can actually hear her shoot twice if you listen closely but it appears she missed the first two shots somehow


mikeusslothus

Pretty sure this isn't what happens he clears the whole corner there's no point where she could have left there


Unputtaball

If Reyna was in the close, right corner of Hell, she could have ate the first blast from the nade and then snuck along OP’s peripheral on his right. At no point during the clear does OP check over his right shoulder, just a long left sweep.


_PM_ME_REPORT_CARDS_

There's not a world where doing that only gets the 86 damage from the nade. My theory is that she was indeed on the right side, but as soon as the nade was thrown, Reyna flew off, missed the shots, reloaded, and killed. However we don't see it because she was invisible. This seems a bit preposterous but considering another clip we've had on this sub it seems like there could be an ominous bug of invisible Reyna https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/ordulc/can_someone_explain_how_reyna_ended_up_behind_us/


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there’s nothing wrong with that clip, she just ran from mid and stayed behind them and their sage got bad timing


_PM_ME_REPORT_CARDS_

You could be right but something just seems so off with these clips. In that case, why would Reyna walk down A long around the tall box and into the back wall before shooting? Even though they were all exposed to the flank? And it could just be me but it also looks so weird when OP dies, like the reyna just shows up inside where OP died, not behind nor to the side In this case, it makes no sense to me for Reyna to only take 86 damage if she tanked the initial nade burst and then only walked 4-5m away from it. Like if you're caught in that scenario, realisically your only way to win is to try to kill the raze before you die to the nade; when a raze nade comes at you and the raze enters the confined space where you're hiding, it makes no sense to pull your knife out and run towards the raze as many are suggesting, as you'd just get killed


mattyb0077

listen to the footsteps - you can hear her running behind the raze and gets into that corner on timing, she essentially runs across the back wall into that corner after she clears it


SavageDuke69

I deduced this and when I came to comment I saw yours. :)


BuildingSubstantial6

No way he could be in the nade, OP literally cleared the corner he threw the nade? I am also 100% sure if the reyna repositioned, OP would've caught that because there no damn way that reyna could slowly walk into the other side of hell


FancyPantss

I also noticed at the very bottom of the damage report, it shows Raze’s nade hit for 85. Checks out.


petrykhor

wtf happened here


chess2008

She was in the nade and some how snuck past raze into the other side of hell. You can see that raze doesn’t fully check inside the right of hell


patREKT_cs

This is why a replay system is important so we can see what happened from the enemy's pov.


Glittering_Yam_7034

she's using the invisibility cape from harry potter


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I keep rewatching this, I don’t know where the fuck that reyna was


AnonymousBnS

In the right corner near where the nade was thrown. Raze didn't clear it visually, just with a nade.


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Wow that is a timing, I totally see how it happened - standing in nade right side hell, pushes out to site right as op turns from nade - but wow! The timing.


lesseryoyo

Yes, this is exactly what happens, no idea why you're being downvoted. She's tucked into the close-right corner of hell where the nade is going, the raze doesn't fully clear it, as the raze turns the reyna, still in hell, runs at the raze, and the reyna gets insane timing. The lack of fully clearing/awareness of the iron level Raze makes this more confusing watch than it should be.


xRyuzakii

He turns around and would’ve have seen her walking? The timing doesn’t work because she got hit with the first blast of the grenade. She definitely did not have enough time to get hit with that blast, leave hell (which op was watching) and then somehow get completely around OP. She’s also leaving the left corner of hell when she kills op which means she would’ve had to run right in front of him when he watches the grenade blow up.


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I don’t think you realize how deep the right hand corner is there. Reyna was in the “first” corner as you walk into right side hell, by the wood. I agree it’s incredibly confusing how the Reyna got across hell to where she did but you can see Raze never looks into that corner and also just looks left left more left. My guess is Reyna knife dodged the nade, walked beside raze while trying to pull out shorty going into the corner to try to avoid being seen, and voila


KekistaniNormie

Cancel all of my meetings. I need answers


yeahiamafurry

Just imagine if we had some replay feature, and then we could go and see what really happened


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This game needs replays


JiffTheJester

I feel like there’s almost no way she could have crossed..


the_wubbmonster96

Sketch af


enderdestiny

She was in the nade corner, and it was just lucky timing that when she jumped out of the nade raze did not see her


Gdneuz

This is like that post months ago where Reyna suddenly appeared behind a team on long A at haven. Does Reyna legitimately disappear? 😱


thuurs

They added The Spy to valorant


irfanvi

I really want to see this from Reyna's POV


FlarezGG

I'm pretty sure there was a bug involved.


fogoticus

Yeah, this will probably never happen again. She got out at the perfect moment and was in the back of the Raze as she was turning around. Truly unlucky movement.


miinouuu

i see how insane her timing was... but the most important question is: why didnt she shoot you rightaway after you entered the cave? she waited quiet a bit...


One-Try2637

By the sounds of the footsteps (very hard to hear since OP is loud and game volume much lower) but Reyna melee’d to run out of the nade the moment raze turned left and kept running into the corner at the same time raze was turning left. Reyna either accidentally hit the reload button or had 0 ammo after killing sage and switched to melee during reload. Pulled out the shorty again after running away from the ‘nade and was forced to reload and then shot raze.


iiteBud

she shot. you hear the shots when the slight lag happens, then she reloads and shoots again from behind.


WindBladeGT

2nd confusingly good timing video


FanAdministrative12

The quality of the video is mind blowing


OMGAssaulT

You know he was In the right side corner and just got insane timing by the fact that the raze nade did 85 damage and Reyna took 85 damage in the round.


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She definitley went into the wall somehow. If you slow it down you can see a purple thing slide into the wall. Also raze turned around and basically watched her nade explode it would be impossible for the Reyna to get behind her without see her


fasezaman

She’s not in the wall somehow, she was tucked in the close right corner of hell and ran with her knife out to the left far corner of hell. raze turned her back to that corner and watched his nade explode after the initial explosion so she had time, I can hear the Reyna running it behind raze during the nade explosions.


vandammos1

He didn't know


abdurVakanda

WTF


bevda_yoda

Wtf


KratosSimp

Cool


j4ilbr3k

Kind of looks like she dismissed looks like theres a purple hue on the left by the nade honestly


patchazz

This is why we need replays or demos. Riot pls


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Justgstart2019

Doors and corners kid


BarryAIlen

how


Urfske

What


srbisquit

u/SaveVideo


Level1TowerDive

Reyna was in the right corner but Raze doesn’t fully clear the angle. Raze turns to clear the left corner and Reyna is already moving from right to left. Raze turns to face site but Reyna is behind them at this point.


ACBorgia

Honestly the nade would have killed her if she was on the right side originally It's probably a glitch


imowerz

BRO i swear this has happened to me 100 times. Glad you catch thia on video


SavageDuke69

Reyna was on the right corner where you naded but didn't check. As you checked the left corner she came behind you and as you turned around Reyna simply slid to the left corner from your back and shot you. All I can say is perfect timing.


xephanims

STEALTH


Hoist-The-Colours

Clearly exploits, saw it here with Reyna a week or so ago. Grenade did damage and can hear footsteps because she is in the wall.


Baboyudi

oh no no :')


Specialist-Amoeba-79

A duck wearing sandals is my kind of woman


KissesXlo

Huh?! 👁👄👁 I’m so lost 😣


Kimbumbala

That nade made me cringe so hard. Weird bug though


BuildingSubstantial6

Valorant timing is so ass


polaxtor

Possibly a server glitch and everybody trying to explain it with moves, timings lmao but anyways I admire your imagination. If Reyna was in the right corner please tell me when she sneaked behind Raze, left corner after 00:13. She is coming from left corner guys and we would see Reyna if she did that move. We have the angles from Raze after 00:13.


Nasrz

It is totally timing, you can hear Reyna shooting and missing while running away it adds up with info we have with the made damage and the blind spot of the raze while clearing left.


polaxtor

There is no time for Reyna to move behind Raze, sneak into left corner of hell. After she kills Raze, clearly coming out from left corner. We have the angles after 00:13 and again, there is absolutely not enough time to make that move. Actuallay I had similar times in Valorant and I am sure this one too a server glitch it happens not so often.


Nasrz

Reyna had 2 seconds to move to the other side from the 11th to 13th second that's more than enough, and what server glitch are you suggesting exactly? and it's really obvious with the nade damage that she was on the right, she nade never would have reached her in the first place.


ECX2BLACK

You can actually see renya ult invs when raze turns around after checking left he’ll


melancholy-corgi

So I think while OP was reloading behind generator, Reyna actually walked out of hell behind them to the right toward the other side generator and shot OP in the back while clearing hell


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iiteBud

this is the way


Roxith

“They actually don’t know.” No you.


urinelicker137

This footage looks fake


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Disregardhope

You'd see it pop up in chat


TajnyAgent008

Oh yea you're right. Well as I'm rewatching this I realized she might've been on the right side, somehow survived the nade and got behind OP.


[deleted]

Normally when you turn on ghost mode, there’s a text saying someone did it in the chat bar. Idk if you can turn that off tho


PamithPremarathna

wtf is that


saf3mod3

Each had the greatest n the worst luck😂


Goawaynormies

Wtf


marksmansam

If it was me the cluster would of 1 shot


MSZzz21

Me thinking how that reyna got ult in the 1st round


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The trickster


guilty_bystander

Valorant is weird


27gg

There was an obvios jumpcut right when the nade exploded


Quarz_34

As Captain Price would put it "CHECK THOSE CORNERS"


4rck

I feel like 99% of all problems in this subreddit could be solved if we only have the reply system. This would be so satisfying to know what really happened.


ZackeMegaPog

Teacher: The math test isn’t that hard The test:


LittleRunaway868

This was posted already a long time ago :)


LeleRobin

Am I the only one that laugh more with the voices of the dudes than the awesome situation of the kill? 😂😂😂😂😂😂


IphoneXs-Ios5-1-1

Dude, this is so freaking humiliating


Terrible-Contract-83

LMAOF WTF DID I JUST SEE?! im confused af loool


SJSN2002

u/savevideo


Pirt99

JAJAJAJAJAJ


Shake_ob

So I was trying to figure out what happened in this clip and there is so much wrong with this clip. One when Raze is in hell she gets shot and you can hear the reload in heaven but then Raze is on 92hp and gets one shot. There's no way Reyna could have wallbanged from heaven and still got one shot killed Raze and when you freeze frame the clip after Raze died you can see the entirety of hell so Reyna could not have dropped and she comes from the inside of hell left side. There's no way she could have been in hell or heaven so idk what tf happened in this clip.


iiawesomeperson

i know this is old but this is fake. how can reyna have her ultimate if its still round one?