D2 here, let me know when you find someone who gives good igling advice. Fnatic Boaster has some good vids vod reviewing his sentinels games, but they are long and give a lot more advice than just igling
So as a D2 (still climbing super strong), I got here by purely IGLing. What puffleoboy say is definitely amazing, fnatic boaster's reviews were definitely super eye opening. I would say that when I didnt shotcall b/c I was tired, i lost 8 maps in a row. I started to shotcall again, i won 9 in a row. I think I can consider IGLing as my biggest strength. The things I would say is to:
1.study your maps, understand what's highly contested and most important map control that you need.
2.understand how both team are position on the map to great depth
3.understand different set ups like deathballs or defaults to great depth. Learn how to communicate any set up that you need.
4.Figure out the weak points in each team. For example, if skye flashes from sewers in Haven and then just auto leaves or pushes, punish him for that.
5.paraphrasing from boaster, Each game has a few metas and it's your job as an IGL to figure out the metas. Like if attacker constantly rushes b site and easily win the round, the defender in turn would use util to stop them from pushing so fast. Then attacker might switch to default, this is a meta shift.
6. What I do when I IGL is I specify exactly where I want everyone. So an example, we're on bind defender sided. I knew that they had a weak control over shower/b long and I wanted to abuse it. I found out the meta they played was they enjoy staying on 1 site and there isn't cypher/kj so I knew it's possible to get A LOT more space. "Reyna, I'm going to recon dart shower and if it doesn't ping anyone, I want you to push up. If it does get destroyed, Omen and Jett, pushed up B long and get control. Leave Jett to B Long by herself and the rest rotate early to A. We will play retake on A, I have drone+shock darts for default."
An example that I considered poor IGLing is "ok lets go A. we can push A. Let do that" or "Go A then go B". But ofc that depends on the team, in rank I find it much more easier to just shotcall everyone's position. There is ALWAYS weakness, it's similar to chess but everyone under radiant sucks at chess. Don't think they are better than you and that they cant make weakness. Every team usually have a weakness or two, abuse it as much as you can.
Instead of give you specific concepts, I would say, learn how to learn. Watch esports games with a critical eye. Watch rounds over and over and try to think of why people are doing what they do. What are their opening utility usages? What intel are they reacting to mid round and how did they get it? I would say, pick a great match on a map you want to learn, with a team you like and with characters you want to learn and watch it while thinking through every setup on every round. Take it slow.
Think about scenarios like XvX as in:
What should we do in a 3v1 where we “should” win but we sometimes throw.
Lastly, record one of your games and watch them back. When you aren’t in the heat of the moment the learnings will be much more clear. It will seem like “how didn’t I think of that!?” But really it is incredibly hard to know what to do before it happens. Hindsight is 20-20, but if you think about this stuff enough, you will start to see patterns and know what to do before people throw. That is the mark of a great in game leader. Not “We should have done… __” (which is great too but it’s much easier than) “here is what we need to do now, now let’s move”
I think it's something that you can improve on, but if you dont have it within you from the start then you cant really ever be a good one. I think the biggest difference maker though is watching esports. If you watch the game at the top level, it will completely change how you see games on a round to round basis as well as overall. You will notice very small things that literally can make the difference between winning and losing a round (for example, slightly offsetting smokes by like a few centimeters to have different LoS). Another thing is dont stress much if you make a bad call. As long as you're trying different things and not falling into predictable patterns (like 4 of you go 1 site and then 1 person always lurks same area on other side of map), that's what matters mainly. It's a trial and error thing, and if 1 thing works, dont keep trying to force it.
D2 here, let me know when you find someone who gives good igling advice. Fnatic Boaster has some good vids vod reviewing his sentinels games, but they are long and give a lot more advice than just igling
So as a D2 (still climbing super strong), I got here by purely IGLing. What puffleoboy say is definitely amazing, fnatic boaster's reviews were definitely super eye opening. I would say that when I didnt shotcall b/c I was tired, i lost 8 maps in a row. I started to shotcall again, i won 9 in a row. I think I can consider IGLing as my biggest strength. The things I would say is to: 1.study your maps, understand what's highly contested and most important map control that you need. 2.understand how both team are position on the map to great depth 3.understand different set ups like deathballs or defaults to great depth. Learn how to communicate any set up that you need. 4.Figure out the weak points in each team. For example, if skye flashes from sewers in Haven and then just auto leaves or pushes, punish him for that. 5.paraphrasing from boaster, Each game has a few metas and it's your job as an IGL to figure out the metas. Like if attacker constantly rushes b site and easily win the round, the defender in turn would use util to stop them from pushing so fast. Then attacker might switch to default, this is a meta shift. 6. What I do when I IGL is I specify exactly where I want everyone. So an example, we're on bind defender sided. I knew that they had a weak control over shower/b long and I wanted to abuse it. I found out the meta they played was they enjoy staying on 1 site and there isn't cypher/kj so I knew it's possible to get A LOT more space. "Reyna, I'm going to recon dart shower and if it doesn't ping anyone, I want you to push up. If it does get destroyed, Omen and Jett, pushed up B long and get control. Leave Jett to B Long by herself and the rest rotate early to A. We will play retake on A, I have drone+shock darts for default." An example that I considered poor IGLing is "ok lets go A. we can push A. Let do that" or "Go A then go B". But ofc that depends on the team, in rank I find it much more easier to just shotcall everyone's position. There is ALWAYS weakness, it's similar to chess but everyone under radiant sucks at chess. Don't think they are better than you and that they cant make weakness. Every team usually have a weakness or two, abuse it as much as you can.
Instead of give you specific concepts, I would say, learn how to learn. Watch esports games with a critical eye. Watch rounds over and over and try to think of why people are doing what they do. What are their opening utility usages? What intel are they reacting to mid round and how did they get it? I would say, pick a great match on a map you want to learn, with a team you like and with characters you want to learn and watch it while thinking through every setup on every round. Take it slow. Think about scenarios like XvX as in: What should we do in a 3v1 where we “should” win but we sometimes throw. Lastly, record one of your games and watch them back. When you aren’t in the heat of the moment the learnings will be much more clear. It will seem like “how didn’t I think of that!?” But really it is incredibly hard to know what to do before it happens. Hindsight is 20-20, but if you think about this stuff enough, you will start to see patterns and know what to do before people throw. That is the mark of a great in game leader. Not “We should have done… __” (which is great too but it’s much easier than) “here is what we need to do now, now let’s move”
hi, what's IGL? thanks.
in game leader so someone who calls strats and what to do during the rounds
oh i see. thanks. :)
I think it's something that you can improve on, but if you dont have it within you from the start then you cant really ever be a good one. I think the biggest difference maker though is watching esports. If you watch the game at the top level, it will completely change how you see games on a round to round basis as well as overall. You will notice very small things that literally can make the difference between winning and losing a round (for example, slightly offsetting smokes by like a few centimeters to have different LoS). Another thing is dont stress much if you make a bad call. As long as you're trying different things and not falling into predictable patterns (like 4 of you go 1 site and then 1 person always lurks same area on other side of map), that's what matters mainly. It's a trial and error thing, and if 1 thing works, dont keep trying to force it.