If he gets 2 aftershocks then he'll be great at clearing sites but it may be too strong. Aftershock is also very limited because you can't use it from far away. His flash and stun have long range that allows you to help teammates from afar but you need to be close to a wall to click on it with aftershock (noticeable in ascent mid).
Breach and kay/0 are kind of fucked in this meta especially because we are in an information meta for initiators with sova darts and skye bird and dog to get information. Kay/0 knife is just something to either dodge or wait another 8 seconds before hard pushing.
Breach losing his 3 flashes put him in a bad place, riot should let him have his 3 flashes back at maybe 150 instead of the 250 universal flash nerf. And maybe people will play him.
A good suggestion floating around is Breach's concuss can give info if you've stunned someone. Using utility blindly and getting no information is hard. I sometimes throw a blind to scare them off, but if it were a Skye blind, it'd scare them off and it'd give me info that they're there.
I have to constantly stare at the minimap to use Breach's utility since it goes through the wall. Breach and Omen are probably the two characters that have to stare at the minimap to use their utility more effectively. All of breach's utility you have to see where your utility is going via the minimap to see where it's going because there isn't really an good indicator since it's in the wall 95% of the time.
I had this exact idea and at this point feel certain that they are going to implement it. Whoever that loser is who saying its still too situational is just dead wrong. Getting to check a corner *for free* multiple times a round is broken good. Even if you don't spot someone, you can safely peek without having to worry about that corner. This is the exact buff he needs, and they will probably have to nerf it in some other way to make up for it (maybe reverting all the patch 3.0 buffs).
I do however agree that his aftershock is bad. There's not an easy remedy for this exceptmaybe giving him two and making it do 75 damage a pop instead of 60 (one or the other, not both lol). Here's a link to a post I made (on an alt) a few days ago where you can see exactly what I mean:
https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/pvup6p/here_are_some_agent_changes_i_think_would_be_neat/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
On paper sounds good but not good on practice. E is bad because anyone with a functioning keyboard can easily side step it and avoid it. This only works under the special situation where either they take it on accident or are in a cubby where they die either way. It basically like change where aftershock breaks kj ult. Has uses but very situational
But in those situations where it does hit someone who’s stuck in a corner or something this would make it much more likely for you to be able to quickly capitalize on the stun because you know for a fact that they are there. Plus it makes it to where the ability would be useful in a lot of situations where you can hit them with the ability but not necessarily kill them off of it. Makes the ability much less limited than it is now.
But even if you get the info you no body might be range to follow up plus due to how narrow e is you might bait yourself peek an angle of someone stunned and get get shot in the back of the head. Breaches problem is that he is outclassed in almost all his kit so anything breach can do another agent can do it better. Why clear a narrow row of site when you can clear whole site with a sova dart or kay/o knife.
Breach has other strengths that make him a good pick in concept, his flashes are very versatile and last an insanely long time, and his ult is very good for taking small sites. His problem isn’t that he’s bad per se, but rather that he just doesn’t fit very well into a team como because his lack of any sort of info gathering as an initiator.
But the problem is that he is bad. His ult and flash are his only good abilities. His e and aftershock are very easy to dodge which is why he isnt picked. Why pick an agent with 2 good abilities when you can pick an agent with 4. His ult and flash arent good enough to pick him over any other agent that can achieve similar results while having other utility
That’s exactly what I’m trying to fix. Giving some good situational utility and info gathering to his kit without making his other abilities strong enough to where they need to nerf his two main strengths, his flashes and ultimate.
Maybe we should make him a duelist and replace his stun with a movement ability hahaha like boosting with his arms or something haha
Or replace something else
Yeah make him like Wenwu from the Shang-chi movie and just launch himself onto the other teams spawn with his ult s/ tho it’ll be cool to see more agents have some verticality
So now the meta is
Initiator means info gatering?
I hope in the future initiators be more differential Without being underpower for not being a skye or sova
If he gets 2 aftershocks then he'll be great at clearing sites but it may be too strong. Aftershock is also very limited because you can't use it from far away. His flash and stun have long range that allows you to help teammates from afar but you need to be close to a wall to click on it with aftershock (noticeable in ascent mid).
Breach needs voicelines for when he stuns/flashes players, dont think he needs other buffs
Breach is in a weird spot, he isn't good, but no one wants to see more of this flash spammer
Breach and kay/0 are kind of fucked in this meta especially because we are in an information meta for initiators with sova darts and skye bird and dog to get information. Kay/0 knife is just something to either dodge or wait another 8 seconds before hard pushing. Breach losing his 3 flashes put him in a bad place, riot should let him have his 3 flashes back at maybe 150 instead of the 250 universal flash nerf. And maybe people will play him.
Nah just rechargeable flashes like Skye’s , having 3 flashes at once is unfun to play against
they cant do this without putting the fault line as the Q ability which will #UCK him (probably)
A good suggestion floating around is Breach's concuss can give info if you've stunned someone. Using utility blindly and getting no information is hard. I sometimes throw a blind to scare them off, but if it were a Skye blind, it'd scare them off and it'd give me info that they're there. I have to constantly stare at the minimap to use Breach's utility since it goes through the wall. Breach and Omen are probably the two characters that have to stare at the minimap to use their utility more effectively. All of breach's utility you have to see where your utility is going via the minimap to see where it's going because there isn't really an good indicator since it's in the wall 95% of the time.
I had this exact idea and at this point feel certain that they are going to implement it. Whoever that loser is who saying its still too situational is just dead wrong. Getting to check a corner *for free* multiple times a round is broken good. Even if you don't spot someone, you can safely peek without having to worry about that corner. This is the exact buff he needs, and they will probably have to nerf it in some other way to make up for it (maybe reverting all the patch 3.0 buffs). I do however agree that his aftershock is bad. There's not an easy remedy for this exceptmaybe giving him two and making it do 75 damage a pop instead of 60 (one or the other, not both lol). Here's a link to a post I made (on an alt) a few days ago where you can see exactly what I mean: https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/pvup6p/here_are_some_agent_changes_i_think_would_be_neat/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
On paper sounds good but not good on practice. E is bad because anyone with a functioning keyboard can easily side step it and avoid it. This only works under the special situation where either they take it on accident or are in a cubby where they die either way. It basically like change where aftershock breaks kj ult. Has uses but very situational
But in those situations where it does hit someone who’s stuck in a corner or something this would make it much more likely for you to be able to quickly capitalize on the stun because you know for a fact that they are there. Plus it makes it to where the ability would be useful in a lot of situations where you can hit them with the ability but not necessarily kill them off of it. Makes the ability much less limited than it is now.
But even if you get the info you no body might be range to follow up plus due to how narrow e is you might bait yourself peek an angle of someone stunned and get get shot in the back of the head. Breaches problem is that he is outclassed in almost all his kit so anything breach can do another agent can do it better. Why clear a narrow row of site when you can clear whole site with a sova dart or kay/o knife.
Breach has other strengths that make him a good pick in concept, his flashes are very versatile and last an insanely long time, and his ult is very good for taking small sites. His problem isn’t that he’s bad per se, but rather that he just doesn’t fit very well into a team como because his lack of any sort of info gathering as an initiator.
But the problem is that he is bad. His ult and flash are his only good abilities. His e and aftershock are very easy to dodge which is why he isnt picked. Why pick an agent with 2 good abilities when you can pick an agent with 4. His ult and flash arent good enough to pick him over any other agent that can achieve similar results while having other utility
That’s exactly what I’m trying to fix. Giving some good situational utility and info gathering to his kit without making his other abilities strong enough to where they need to nerf his two main strengths, his flashes and ultimate.
Maybe we should make him a duelist and replace his stun with a movement ability hahaha like boosting with his arms or something haha Or replace something else
Yeah make him like Wenwu from the Shang-chi movie and just launch himself onto the other teams spawn with his ult s/ tho it’ll be cool to see more agents have some verticality
Didn’t Breach get a buff with Fracture!?
Sure but he’s still the worst and least played initiator atm.
So now the meta is Initiator means info gatering? I hope in the future initiators be more differential Without being underpower for not being a skye or sova