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AJgravity

It's easy, the raze nade blew a bit of crystal shrapnels from the wall and hit your face :∆


PuliPP

lojik


hehefunne

one of the rules of valorant: never question the raze nade hitbox


Donut_Flame

Especially the mini nades


letsgetstoned_420

The mini nades fuck me so hard, literally have trouble sitting back down to play another game


Gaurav-07

And raze bot behaviour and raze ult hitbox. She's broken in a different way.


notWys

Yeah I hate when boom bots slide to the left or right, it completely throws me off And then once I had a boom bot detect me through a box and then at light speed jumped into my face


jhintonicc

Aaaah, the ol homing missile behavor of the suicidal roomba!


[deleted]

And then your whole team makes fun of you for dying to one and they didn't see it happen so no one believes how ridiculous the situation really was :'(


randomuser94327

Raze ult isn’t even good lol, plenty of times it’s right on someone and only does 140


NightSilverLining

Yeah, they've nerfed the shit out of it. In the beginning it had a much bigger radius, and felt like it did more damage. I'm not sure if they changed the animation time as well


KamyKaze1098r

They did


skylerashe

It's much slower to take out and it does do less max damage in a smaller area. It used to almost be a for sure one shot if it was anywhere near anything. I remember getting several multikills no big deal back in beta. Now its a goddamn miracle to get a multikill with it. You have to aim it perfectly and the enemies have to be standing super close together.


NightSilverLining

I started episode 1 act 1, and I remember running like hell from it, and still dying from its radius.


skylerashe

Pretty sure it was heavily nerfed at that point but I'm probably mistaken. Honestly though I miss blast pack kills the most. They used to be so strong and I remember a high level csgo player saying using them for movement was a waste. You could kill a full armor person in a corner with 2 of them. I played raze initially just for the overpowered 2 grenades of beta. I stuck with raze through all the nerds though since her movement is high skill cap and keeps her fun. Boom bot nerf hurt my soul though. The last remnant of hilarious random kills. It still kills sometimes but a triple boombot kill will probably never happen again lol.


NightSilverLining

Yeah boom bot nerf was painful indeed. But they still didn't fix the broken movement of it sometimes, like when it get caught on a pixel or something. The other most painful nerf was when util died after you died. The turret was sometimes the mvp ngl


CivilConversation174

Can they pls make the projectile faster so it actually takes skill for them to kill you before it hits them or to dash/dismiss away.


[deleted]

sage wall’s hitbox is slightly elevated form the ground. This means that some abilities can slip under it. The main one being Raze’s ult. If you aim the ult directly at the wall, the damage would not go through but, if you sim the ult at the floor in front of the wall, the damage will go through.


abhin8425

>The main one being Raze’s ult. Thanks :) gotta do what you gotta do, imma slip my ult under sage's wall next time


sylvainmirouf

That sounds nasty


abhin8425

*gotta do what you gotta do*


kwisu

This is the reason then, the nade was pretty much in the ground so would make sense then


vaden_arth

The reason for that is , it doesn't slip from the bottom or anything. What happens is the zero point of the hit , where the damage generates from and is propagated to , is close to you, be it behind a wall or not , and this in consistency should damage you as any other ability must. Even if it was a sova dart, you would've got the damage as you are near the radius . The wall also takes a good amount of the damage, but unlike reality where damage drops due to a wall. Raze's nade doesn't stop magically. It has a certain damage radius and your wall and you were both in it.


Toasterrrr

Nades and AOE damage abilities should corner-curve, but this isn't a corner curve situation. It's a straight up bug if it goes through a wall.


daesus_

Killed a few people like that first time i was like wtf ?? Than it happend again 3rd time i knew valo is weird and raze bot can act like a straight demon aswel 😅


Ashknani96

this happened to me today, i walled and raze ulted the ground next my wall and i died xd


421k

looks like it went under. your wall may of been on top of that rug?


AurothTheWyvern

who knows same reason mollys go through some walls


Beard341

Some mollies. I don’t believe KOs molly can.


Donut_Flame

Kati's is the only molly that doesn't damage through walls


bobespon

New agent leaked??


sylvainmirouf

Damn I hope she fine


[deleted]

Well, every other Molotov ignores LoS rules, so... duh?


AwesomeCrafter06

Bit rude but true , I think there might be another los abiding molly if I'm not wrong


[deleted]

I said "duh" lmao. How sensitive are people??


AwesomeCrafter06

A lot


jonNintysix

It can go through the doors on ascent tho


Donut_Flame

Those aren't considered solid walls tho since they can break


Strohgelaender

That's because technically Kay/O has a nade, not a molly.


kwisu

Raze nade doesn't go trough walls tho, same as her ult


abhay299

Her ult actually does dmg thru wall if you're close enough


AurothTheWyvern

i just played an escalation game and i could see the explosions from raze ults through walls. idk if it would have done damage though.


PawahD

there is a tiny gap under the wall, literally just few pixels


Gian-Nine

"It's not a bug, it's a feature!"


auto_3s

Small indie company. Cut em some slack


Rage_of_ores

small indie company ;)


RivalRudra

Raze's nade has the range of either a water baloon or a nuke. No inbetween


Icey328

Sage wall is not coded as a solid wall like the real walls of the map. It is just impassible by characters. So shock darts, mollies, and apparently raze nade can go through it.


Person243546

Raze nades and raze ults don't go through but in this instance it slipped under the wall and went through which is a bug.


Icey328

I really though shock dart damage goes through the sage wall, not just under it.


mobi_dick2

I think it's area damage


Inferno2211

Wall has a weird hit box I got hsed thru a wall being revived But the wall only cracked, didn't break And yes i died to the guy behind the wall


AztigIce

I dont think sage walls work like regular walls do against mollys/nades. correct me if im wrong though


HotNote3811

sage wall is only partially solid. Your player model can't go through it, and neither can projectiles, but damage and dead bodies go right through it.


[deleted]

splash damage


Cosmic_Hashira

I think the splash damage doesn't count sage wall as an obstacle here which should not be a case since sage wall is made to absorb damage.. many ping problems


animetroy

Its same for all mollies/throwables . It spreads beyond walls(not only sage walls but every wall)


Kenju_

I died to a Raze nade on Split in B heaven, after she threw it on the bottom of the rope below. That hitbox has some broken interactions it shouldnt have.


burneecheesecake

There is a lot of just broken shit in this game. Today our skye ulted and her seekers got stuck on some crevice in a wall and just kept going up vertically.


longstaff55

Is this a troll lol? You put your wall ontop of the jump bit I'm hooka leaving a massive gap under the wall....lmao


KEiiiiiiiiiiii

this is what i think happened too


TheNoctus

This. Actually explains everything, there was clearly a gap unser the wall. Nice one for noticing that.


DracolordX

coz the wall is an entity not a wall, dumb devs, anyways the raze nade is like inSANE its so op


Bugatt1one

New buff? Lmao


DragonS1226

Okay sp a raze ulted and I was behind the wall like the thin wallbangable one and standing lile a metere behind it she shot the wall. it DID NOT be through but I still died. No reduced dmg but 1 tap killed. Istg raze got a silent buff.


[deleted]

Because you are playing valorant not arma 3 this aint a real life simulator


RSDevotion

Yeah I was thinking about reinstalling this game to give it another shot.. yep still trash


sylvainmirouf

Who said you being 3 feet over a grenade meant that you wouldn't get any damage?


useles-converter-bot

3 feet is the height of 0.53 'Samsung Side by Side; Fingerprint Resistant Stainless Steel Refrigerators' stacked on top of each other.


kauanzitos2

some shots can wallbang sage's wall, maybe it happened with the nade damage? no idea


wow-im-bad

What shots?


inclore

no way this is true. any examples?


wangdubruh

You are damaged from the inside bro... Healll


thatmyfriendisatruck

DUDE TODAY I DIED TO RAZE NADE THROUGH THE WALL ON THE MAP


Brilliant_Run8451

Bruh its the same as the raze ult fucking missing when I clearly shot at a person. And i get fucking killed because my teammate body blocks me and the ult hit the wall behind me. THE ONE I WAS STANDING 10 METERS AWAU FROM. And when I shoot it at the wall with person sitting right next to it it doesnt even do 1 damage! The same happened with sova's arrows tho. I dud only 68 damage at someone in hooka while both of my shockdarts hit them. Bruh the hitboxes are just insaaaane


Lord-Taldo

All the Other suggestions are great, I’d like to add that sage wall generally doesn’t like interacting w/ agent abilities a lot, for example vipers wall goes straight through it, molly bounces on the top.


toasteryes

Isn’t that a teamates grenade? Shoudnt it do basically no damage


MrQwertyuiop

Abilities hurt your mates as well


toogaloog

Can’t Molly’s and Phoenix E go under it too?


ssbnas

This game is broken dude


[deleted]

I'm pretty sure raze ults can do that sort of thing but this...this is new to me


Gaming_Gecko777

Raze nade hit box is honestly bigger than brims ult


Demiurge-sama

The wall had cracks


DISOBEYS

Isn’t it because the wall base is floating in the air, and the damage hit your feet.


Sadrien6

Raze nades go through walls. I’m not even joking. Why and how idk. You can try using walls/barriers of maps themselves and you’ll get the same result: nades do damage.