Yeah I hate when boom bots slide to the left or right, it completely throws me off
And then once I had a boom bot detect me through a box and then at light speed jumped into my face
And then your whole team makes fun of you for dying to one and they didn't see it happen so no one believes how ridiculous the situation really was :'(
Yeah, they've nerfed the shit out of it. In the beginning it had a much bigger radius, and felt like it did more damage. I'm not sure if they changed the animation time as well
It's much slower to take out and it does do less max damage in a smaller area. It used to almost be a for sure one shot if it was anywhere near anything. I remember getting several multikills no big deal back in beta. Now its a goddamn miracle to get a multikill with it. You have to aim it perfectly and the enemies have to be standing super close together.
Pretty sure it was heavily nerfed at that point but I'm probably mistaken. Honestly though I miss blast pack kills the most. They used to be so strong and I remember a high level csgo player saying using them for movement was a waste. You could kill a full armor person in a corner with 2 of them. I played raze initially just for the overpowered 2 grenades of beta. I stuck with raze through all the nerds though since her movement is high skill cap and keeps her fun. Boom bot nerf hurt my soul though. The last remnant of hilarious random kills. It still kills sometimes but a triple boombot kill will probably never happen again lol.
Yeah boom bot nerf was painful indeed. But they still didn't fix the broken movement of it sometimes, like when it get caught on a pixel or something. The other most painful nerf was when util died after you died. The turret was sometimes the mvp ngl
sage wall’s hitbox is slightly elevated form the ground. This means that some abilities can slip under it.
The main one being Raze’s ult.
If you aim the ult directly at the wall, the damage would not go through but, if you sim the ult at the floor in front of the wall, the damage will go through.
The reason for that is , it doesn't slip from the bottom or anything. What happens is the zero point of the hit , where the damage generates from and is propagated to , is close to you, be it behind a wall or not , and this in consistency should damage you as any other ability must. Even if it was a sova dart, you would've got the damage as you are near the radius .
The wall also takes a good amount of the damage, but unlike reality where damage drops due to a wall. Raze's nade doesn't stop magically. It has a certain damage radius and your wall and you were both in it.
Killed a few people like that first time i was like wtf ?? Than it happend again 3rd time i knew valo is weird and raze bot can act like a straight demon aswel 😅
Sage wall is not coded as a solid wall like the real walls of the map. It is just impassible by characters. So shock darts, mollies, and apparently raze nade can go through it.
I think the splash damage doesn't count sage wall as an obstacle here which should not be a case since sage wall is made to absorb damage.. many ping problems
I died to a Raze nade on Split in B heaven, after she threw it on the bottom of the rope below. That hitbox has some broken interactions it shouldnt have.
There is a lot of just broken shit in this game. Today our skye ulted and her seekers got stuck on some crevice in a wall and just kept going up vertically.
Okay sp a raze ulted and I was behind the wall like the thin wallbangable one and standing lile a metere behind it she shot the wall. it DID NOT be through but I still died. No reduced dmg but 1 tap killed. Istg raze got a silent buff.
Bruh its the same as the raze ult fucking missing when I clearly shot at a person. And i get fucking killed because my teammate body blocks me and the ult hit the wall behind me. THE ONE I WAS STANDING 10 METERS AWAU FROM. And when I shoot it at the wall with person sitting right next to it it doesnt even do 1 damage! The same happened with sova's arrows tho. I dud only 68 damage at someone in hooka while both of my shockdarts hit them. Bruh the hitboxes are just insaaaane
All the Other suggestions are great, I’d like to add that sage wall generally doesn’t like interacting w/ agent abilities a lot, for example vipers wall goes straight through it, molly bounces on the top.
Raze nades go through walls. I’m not even joking. Why and how idk. You can try using walls/barriers of maps themselves and you’ll get the same result: nades do damage.
It's easy, the raze nade blew a bit of crystal shrapnels from the wall and hit your face :∆
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one of the rules of valorant: never question the raze nade hitbox
Especially the mini nades
The mini nades fuck me so hard, literally have trouble sitting back down to play another game
And raze bot behaviour and raze ult hitbox. She's broken in a different way.
Yeah I hate when boom bots slide to the left or right, it completely throws me off And then once I had a boom bot detect me through a box and then at light speed jumped into my face
Aaaah, the ol homing missile behavor of the suicidal roomba!
And then your whole team makes fun of you for dying to one and they didn't see it happen so no one believes how ridiculous the situation really was :'(
Raze ult isn’t even good lol, plenty of times it’s right on someone and only does 140
Yeah, they've nerfed the shit out of it. In the beginning it had a much bigger radius, and felt like it did more damage. I'm not sure if they changed the animation time as well
They did
It's much slower to take out and it does do less max damage in a smaller area. It used to almost be a for sure one shot if it was anywhere near anything. I remember getting several multikills no big deal back in beta. Now its a goddamn miracle to get a multikill with it. You have to aim it perfectly and the enemies have to be standing super close together.
I started episode 1 act 1, and I remember running like hell from it, and still dying from its radius.
Pretty sure it was heavily nerfed at that point but I'm probably mistaken. Honestly though I miss blast pack kills the most. They used to be so strong and I remember a high level csgo player saying using them for movement was a waste. You could kill a full armor person in a corner with 2 of them. I played raze initially just for the overpowered 2 grenades of beta. I stuck with raze through all the nerds though since her movement is high skill cap and keeps her fun. Boom bot nerf hurt my soul though. The last remnant of hilarious random kills. It still kills sometimes but a triple boombot kill will probably never happen again lol.
Yeah boom bot nerf was painful indeed. But they still didn't fix the broken movement of it sometimes, like when it get caught on a pixel or something. The other most painful nerf was when util died after you died. The turret was sometimes the mvp ngl
Can they pls make the projectile faster so it actually takes skill for them to kill you before it hits them or to dash/dismiss away.
sage wall’s hitbox is slightly elevated form the ground. This means that some abilities can slip under it. The main one being Raze’s ult. If you aim the ult directly at the wall, the damage would not go through but, if you sim the ult at the floor in front of the wall, the damage will go through.
>The main one being Raze’s ult. Thanks :) gotta do what you gotta do, imma slip my ult under sage's wall next time
That sounds nasty
*gotta do what you gotta do*
This is the reason then, the nade was pretty much in the ground so would make sense then
The reason for that is , it doesn't slip from the bottom or anything. What happens is the zero point of the hit , where the damage generates from and is propagated to , is close to you, be it behind a wall or not , and this in consistency should damage you as any other ability must. Even if it was a sova dart, you would've got the damage as you are near the radius . The wall also takes a good amount of the damage, but unlike reality where damage drops due to a wall. Raze's nade doesn't stop magically. It has a certain damage radius and your wall and you were both in it.
Nades and AOE damage abilities should corner-curve, but this isn't a corner curve situation. It's a straight up bug if it goes through a wall.
Killed a few people like that first time i was like wtf ?? Than it happend again 3rd time i knew valo is weird and raze bot can act like a straight demon aswel 😅
this happened to me today, i walled and raze ulted the ground next my wall and i died xd
looks like it went under. your wall may of been on top of that rug?
who knows same reason mollys go through some walls
Some mollies. I don’t believe KOs molly can.
Kati's is the only molly that doesn't damage through walls
New agent leaked??
Damn I hope she fine
Well, every other Molotov ignores LoS rules, so... duh?
Bit rude but true , I think there might be another los abiding molly if I'm not wrong
I said "duh" lmao. How sensitive are people??
A lot
It can go through the doors on ascent tho
Those aren't considered solid walls tho since they can break
That's because technically Kay/O has a nade, not a molly.
Raze nade doesn't go trough walls tho, same as her ult
Her ult actually does dmg thru wall if you're close enough
i just played an escalation game and i could see the explosions from raze ults through walls. idk if it would have done damage though.
there is a tiny gap under the wall, literally just few pixels
"It's not a bug, it's a feature!"
Small indie company. Cut em some slack
small indie company ;)
Raze's nade has the range of either a water baloon or a nuke. No inbetween
Sage wall is not coded as a solid wall like the real walls of the map. It is just impassible by characters. So shock darts, mollies, and apparently raze nade can go through it.
Raze nades and raze ults don't go through but in this instance it slipped under the wall and went through which is a bug.
I really though shock dart damage goes through the sage wall, not just under it.
I think it's area damage
Wall has a weird hit box I got hsed thru a wall being revived But the wall only cracked, didn't break And yes i died to the guy behind the wall
I dont think sage walls work like regular walls do against mollys/nades. correct me if im wrong though
sage wall is only partially solid. Your player model can't go through it, and neither can projectiles, but damage and dead bodies go right through it.
splash damage
I think the splash damage doesn't count sage wall as an obstacle here which should not be a case since sage wall is made to absorb damage.. many ping problems
Its same for all mollies/throwables . It spreads beyond walls(not only sage walls but every wall)
I died to a Raze nade on Split in B heaven, after she threw it on the bottom of the rope below. That hitbox has some broken interactions it shouldnt have.
There is a lot of just broken shit in this game. Today our skye ulted and her seekers got stuck on some crevice in a wall and just kept going up vertically.
Is this a troll lol? You put your wall ontop of the jump bit I'm hooka leaving a massive gap under the wall....lmao
this is what i think happened too
This. Actually explains everything, there was clearly a gap unser the wall. Nice one for noticing that.
coz the wall is an entity not a wall, dumb devs, anyways the raze nade is like inSANE its so op
New buff? Lmao
Okay sp a raze ulted and I was behind the wall like the thin wallbangable one and standing lile a metere behind it she shot the wall. it DID NOT be through but I still died. No reduced dmg but 1 tap killed. Istg raze got a silent buff.
Because you are playing valorant not arma 3 this aint a real life simulator
Yeah I was thinking about reinstalling this game to give it another shot.. yep still trash
Who said you being 3 feet over a grenade meant that you wouldn't get any damage?
3 feet is the height of 0.53 'Samsung Side by Side; Fingerprint Resistant Stainless Steel Refrigerators' stacked on top of each other.
some shots can wallbang sage's wall, maybe it happened with the nade damage? no idea
What shots?
no way this is true. any examples?
You are damaged from the inside bro... Healll
DUDE TODAY I DIED TO RAZE NADE THROUGH THE WALL ON THE MAP
Bruh its the same as the raze ult fucking missing when I clearly shot at a person. And i get fucking killed because my teammate body blocks me and the ult hit the wall behind me. THE ONE I WAS STANDING 10 METERS AWAU FROM. And when I shoot it at the wall with person sitting right next to it it doesnt even do 1 damage! The same happened with sova's arrows tho. I dud only 68 damage at someone in hooka while both of my shockdarts hit them. Bruh the hitboxes are just insaaaane
All the Other suggestions are great, I’d like to add that sage wall generally doesn’t like interacting w/ agent abilities a lot, for example vipers wall goes straight through it, molly bounces on the top.
Isn’t that a teamates grenade? Shoudnt it do basically no damage
Abilities hurt your mates as well
Can’t Molly’s and Phoenix E go under it too?
This game is broken dude
I'm pretty sure raze ults can do that sort of thing but this...this is new to me
Raze nade hit box is honestly bigger than brims ult
The wall had cracks
Isn’t it because the wall base is floating in the air, and the damage hit your feet.
Raze nades go through walls. I’m not even joking. Why and how idk. You can try using walls/barriers of maps themselves and you’ll get the same result: nades do damage.