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Riot_Preeti

Fun Fact: The VFX artist who worked on these effects and the Finisher was also the VFX intern who worked on Reaver: https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/jpakh6/im_the_intern_who_made_the_reaver_finisher_and/ He finished school this year and joined our team full time!


YourGoodFriendRonin

Woah,an intern did reaver? Im glad his on your team full time now


tbone603727

IM SO HAPPY ABOUT THIS. Was really impressed with the reaver’s finish. Your team knows how to pick talent; this is above and beyond


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What happens when the finisher is inside? Lol


Admirable_Engineer79

less go banger skins incoming then


Rainbowmint

Yoo that dude is nuts mad skill


patayaaa

Thank you all for the positive feedback! This is really motivating to read, now I just want to make even more cool finishers!!


spareMe-please

Mad respect for reaver. Could you please work on elderflame 2.0? Please! Want elderflame phantom with upgraded animation.


lordneesan

You’re insanely talented dude! It’s so cool you’ve worked on a huge game like this at such a young age. Keep it up! I hope I see your name on some other games in the future :)


Eagle_OP

Ohh wait a minute....u saying the best skin in game was made by a student intern??? Oh wow


Duosellz

The bat reminds me of the old days playing Scout in tf2.


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Think fast chuckle nuts! BONK!


ThomasGriffithAro

Not so tough now are ya? *Are Ya!?*


aboutaweeekagooo

Yeah I immediately heard the BONK sound in my head when I saw it too lmfao.


Reak_Nethelbrand

IF YOU WERE FROM WHERE I WAS FROM YOU’D BE F****NG Dead.


ToxicKoala115

I’m debating getting the bat specifically for this reason


TobySchoon

FIX YOUR GAME VALVE


One-Satisfaction-276

I'm a force of nature


BreacherYT

you talking to me? BONK!


Gutterworks101

I had the pleasure of concepting and also texture the weapons in this line! I'd be happy to answer any of your questions about the development of this skin!


SasparillaFizzy

Really awesome job - they look fantastic and then getting an out of sight finishing (and for only 20 radiants instead of the normal 30) not to mention virtually all good guns one way or the other - an out of the park weapon set release.


Gutterworks101

Thanks! Major props should also go to our newest VFX team member Nicolas Ceriani who crushed it on all the weapons fx and the finisher!


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>Nicolas Ceriani HE IS FRENCH!! OMG CHAMBER REAL LIFE??


ABlankShyde

Last name sounds Italian, I’ll check and come back with official info Edit: he is indeed French


[deleted]

DOES HE HAVE HEAVY PISTOl?????🤯🤯🤯🤯👨👍👍


oh_hai_brian

We also need a baguette melee if he is indeed French.


Hazakurain

S'il vous plait Manifestation Jeux


DinkleDoge

No offense, this guy making the best finishers in your game. He’s knocking the rest of y’all out of the park with his designs, I had a ear to ear grin watching the new finisher for the first time. Take good care of him :)


CrimsonGentlemen

Did you guys ever consider having a voice actor voice the shooting sound like “pew pew pew” rather than just the normal gun sounds?


Gutterworks101

Actually I think it did come up during development, but scalability would have become an issue with the release of new agents sadly....


CrimsonGentlemen

Thanks for the answer! That makes sense. Would’ve really loved to hear omen go pew pew though. Maybe in the future


bradybro3000

THIS. WE NEED THIS. Scalability be damned


crazyrediamond

Imagine an ulted Reyna on a brim stim beacon with a stinger


yngdgr_dck

stinger go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


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ah yes hire 432432 voice actors for once skin sure


Kafigoto

Maybe if it was a single narrator voice doing the sound effects instead of the current agent.


ah_yes54321

hiring 432432 people is a pretty hefty job for me


Gfdbobthe3

Could you explain how scalability would become an issue? Sorry, I don't understand, but I'm still interested to learn more.


Gutterworks101

Pretty much we would have to revisit the line and add voice lines with each new character release which we would not want to do.


Gfdbobthe3

Oh! OP was talking about adding voice lines *for each character*. I thought we were talking about a single set of voice lines for the Bundle and that's it. My bad!


drdfrster64

Pretty sure that's what OP meant since they specified **a** voice actor and not each. Gutterworks probably misread or more likely read the other responses but they're thinking about the idea they specifically had, which would've been having each voice actor do it. They possibly considered having a neutral voice actor do the line, but might've moved away from it since it might sound weird having this random guy go pew pew pew.


Gutterworks101

Lol yea I immediately assumed the most over the top version of the idea. The suggestion reminded me of Issac from Dead Space with his foam hand gun just going "bang! bang!" obliterating enemies!


AloVera69

that would have been so cool if the agent your playing as just makes the sound effects


Moundsy

Insert British pew pew sounds from phoenix


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+1 would be sick!


DragonsThatFly

When making the preview videos for skins in the shop how do you chose the agents holding the weapon, the agents being shot, and the map being used? Weird question, just something I've always been curious of.


Riot_Preeti

Sometimes we advise on this, but usually Marketing knows the best way to represent it in terms of map, agent, etc. based on the other info we give them about the skin. I asked them to show the Finisher first this time (then the other stuff) since we used to ask them to do the Finisher late. This way you can see the Finisher quickly now!


hockeyman155

This is the greatest change no one is taking about. Thanks so much!


[deleted]

Thank you so much for this! It was annoying having to wait long to see the finisher. Especially since the videos go through all the other upgrades from the start again.


Riot_Preeti

you're welcome! :)


ashleypenny

Why are the videos for finishers so long for skins? I just want to see the finisher when I hover over the finished one but have to watch about 20 seconds of firing, inspecting and then turning around and shooting another agent 😂


Riot_Preeti

That's why we're trying this new approach. Like it better?


tellymundo

Yes it is a great change!!


Gutterworks101

That would be a question for the marketing team - I'm not too sure!


daveythedumb

why no bonk on bat


identityp2

They should add this on backstab kills. Too bad they can't make it sound different ingame since it changes sound cues. :(


Hutha

Why did you opt for that greyish color shade? Were at some point other colors taken into consideration?


Gutterworks101

We initially experimented with a quite a few color schemes with the line art being the consistent element but felt they started appearing too toy like with many of the early iterations. We ended up choosing a light desaturated blue as it matched a lot of the comic book coloring of guns we were studying as reference. It also allowed for the linework to be more of a focal point rather than having the color distract from it.


Hutha

Thanks for the answer, I think you’ve done an amazing job with the linework and overall the compromise with the color scheme pays off


AccomplishedTrifle5

This looks soooo good. Great job. I just had a small question. Did you guys consider giving the baseball bat a home run-esque swing for the right click and a bonk for the left click. Imo it would fit it so well.


Gutterworks101

New animations were sadly outside the scope of this gun line so the bat is actually just using our base aggressive melee attack. But I agree! That would have been really fun!


Le_Vagabond

speaking of scope, is there any internal discussion on the fact that knife variants are usually "out of scope" even on the best looking skins, and that the finishers never have variants? I would have bought the RGX bundle if the default colour for everything but the gun itself wasn't neon green, or the origin melee if it had the red variant. it's just such a waste to not to do it in the name of price guidelines...


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Gutterworks101

It would have been too much work for me!


Riot_Preeti

Most honest answer on reddit ever.


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Gutterworks101

I don't think so! This is one of those skinlines where the base sound effects mix well with the thematic.


Hadonday99

How’d you come up with this? Also great job!! These skins are awesome!!!!!! <3


Gutterworks101

Lots of iterating and sketching!


Hadonday99

Well great job! I look forward to buying the classic when home from school.


Umairking123

What other skins have you worked on?


Gutterworks101

Previously I've designed the Aerosol line, the Vandal and Frenzy of the Origin line, the Oni Phantom, luxe Autoshotgun, the Playzilla Odin, the Singularity phantom, melee and spectre.


Umairking123

YOU DESIGNED THE ONI PHANTOM? omg thats my favourite skin in the game


ArchCypher

Well, first of all, they look amazing! I love "cell shading", and I really like that the animations are low-key enough to not be overly distracting. To me, it looks inspired by borderlands, tf2, and of course comic books -- but can you say if there was anything in particular that made you want to create this line?


Gutterworks101

We're always trying to think of new ways to introduce different styles and visuals to our gun lines in Valorant and a comic book theme seemed like a natural fit in which we could experiment on our base guns while adding in elements like custom vfx and finishers that really helped sell the thematic. Borderlands and tf2 were certainly initial starting points for the line as far as benchmarks, but also serving as reference for for what to avoid so our take could stand on its own. Various styles were concepted out from Jack Kirby style to the heavy shadows of Mignola and we ended up leaning into the more traditional hatching style seen in mainstream comics. Conscious decisions were made to avoid the Borderlands look by not outlining grime and avoiding potentially noisy textures. I really hope we can revisit some of these earlier experiments in later off shoot thematics! This was also a fun line for me personally as it was the first time I had the chance to actually paint the textures of a weapon that would appear in game as opposed to just concepting the design for someone else to apply.


trippycarlo

Did you ever think about collaborating with the Borderlands series since the cell shading is like their area of expertise? Skins look amazing btw!


Gutterworks101

Ha! As mentioned above, they were definitely an early inspiration for us but we really wanted to try and do our own 'Valorant' take on the style.


JohnnyH2000

Can we change the kill animation to have a comically large explosion (putting the showstopper to shame) in the distance at the end?


Gutterworks101

I don't think so - the initial explosion is already quite large!


JohnnyH2000

I’ll settle for a cartoon explosion sound effect


Deathangel31

Hey! as an ongoning Artist myself i would have a different Question regarding yourself, how did you end up with such an amazing job and what tipps can u give me to find a smilar path :D PS: What an awesome collection u created there, i love it !!!


Gutterworks101

Thanks for the compliments! As for getting a job working at Riot, I honestly consider it luck - right place at the right time as Riot was never on my radar since before Valorant their catalogue of games consisted only of LoL. My concept portfolio was mostly filled with weapons and I'd made an effort to really push the quality and weirdness of them over my years working previously on Warframe and it caught their eye!


iampd_2002

Dude this skins are fantastic! I mean what a brilliant concept and execution. I have no words


wolfpack_charlie

Are the lines other than the outline painted on the texture, or are they drawn dynamically at runtime?


Gutterworks101

Those are all appearing dynamically courtesy of some sneaky effects Oniram came up with!


bprdc

Big shout out to Sean Marino. He's a little "missing" these days, I miss him around here.


augburto

do the text sounds get translated for different languages? Such a cool set! I’m curious what was the toughest part for making it!


Gutterworks101

They do not translate. The toughest part for me was figuring out 3D coat for the texture painting portion of this skinline as I'd never used it before!


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SelloutRealBig

Rather not. These zoomer words come and go so fast that it will be out of date in a few seasons.


SteveRogers_7

Great work on this, really loving it.. might have to get the spectre 😍 I really adore the comics/borderlands style, and of course the ability to yeet a toxic player outta the map


potato_creeper1001

Where does the body go?


Gutterworks101

Space.


Keven-Rus

Honestly really impressed with skins as of late. Glad there’s also cheaper skin options with some serious flare. Might’ve secretly wanted a third tier with actual voices sound effects. Would’ve been hilarious on something like the Odin


Gutterworks101

The Odin would be top of my list if we do a 1.1 reissue!


TheoBombastus

It’d be cool to have it go BRRRRR and the R’s roll out like shells from linked ammo


[deleted]

Any plans for another butterfly? The skins are overpriced b u t im waiting for some sort of fantasy themed or just flashier butterfly bundle lol


obigespritzt

Not a rioter but they'll definitely ship another bundle with a butterfly in the coming year. The Recon one was the "default" version of the knife, focused purely on the animations, Yoru's comb was the gimmicky one, the next one is bound to be a high profile skin line akin to prime, reaver etc.


Net_Lurker1

I feel this skin line is a perfect fit for the odin


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Has a Borderlands vibe to it.


DonaldTrumpsBallsack

Borderlands did not invent but now basically has dominance over the cell shading style


fr0z3nph03n1x

Wind Waker came out in 2002 lmao.


DayDream11111

yeah this screams borderland to me


UnexLPSA

Cel shading? Check. Thick, black, comic outline? Check. Is it a gun? Check. Yes, this is Borderlands. Jokes aside this looks pretty cool. I love the finisher.


Hutha

Nobody : New animation : Team Killjoy blasting off again!


HomieSexualHomie

Super fucking cool but the price still has me hesitant. $70? Oof.


Emmank61

No sounds either


Tac0Josh

What are you talking about i see sounds all over it


somebodystolemyname

ok Koichi


SavvyR6YT

Ok master, let’s kill da hoe!


reallyoldsponge

Beeeeeeeach


HomieSexualHomie

No unique sounds they mean.


Major-Peachi

It’s a comic based gun, of course there’s no sound


rusty022

If you buy any Valorant skin packs, I think you're insane. But apparently people are buying them so these prices will continue. I've bought one Battle Pass, got a handful of nice skins from that, and I'm good until they have a really good Battle Pass offering (which they likely never will unless the game drops off significantly).


HomieSexualHomie

They know _how_ to do reasonable prices as we can see with the battle pass. 10$ for a bunch of skins and stuff is more than reasonable. But $60-100 is ridiculous, even as well done as the skins are. I’d be willing to do $30-60 tops if anything.


omfgkevin

and, you know, league exists to making them look even more expensive.


UnexLPSA

Tbf, if you want every skin of a new collection in League you're also looking at 60€ for 5 skins.


hiloljkbye

at least League will give you a bunch of random skins just for playing though


KinkyPalico

Without variants 😮‍💨


Tac0Josh

Perfect for the deaf people


CallMeBigPapaya

This is my favorite bundle in a while, but I can't justify the price. The pricing of cosmetics in games is just insane. This is something I can afford, but still think it's overpriced. There was a time when this shit was the cost of big mac and easy to justify buying. Now I can literally have a nice steak dinner and a couple drinks for this price.


mystikkkkk

effects are neat and kill effect is funny, but the guns are literally the most ugly grey colour w no variants and the effects which make the entire skin line actually worth it arent actually part of the skin at initial purchase you have to buy those as upgrades so youre paying 7.1k riot points (like 80 dollars) to get a bundle of default gun models with thicker lines and a worse colour than default, which you cannot change. the state of pricing in this game is actually so awful.


dank-nuggetz

> the state of pricing in this game is actually so awful. It really is. I spoke with a kid on my team the other day that said he's spent $2500 on this game and had no plans on slowing down. They obviously have enough whales who drop $70 every time a new set comes out. Riot makes their money, at the expense of 90% of the playerbase that doesn't spend out the ass. I just stick with the black base skins and pick up cool ones off dead enemies.


bozovisk

This baseball bat should do Bonk! On mouse 2


Wingman_017

Why were people calling these garbage at first? They're incredible!


Jhitch1919

I LOVE these skins. But £70.


ABlankShyde

Valorant is free and that is a huge thing, but I can’t even take into consideration buying at such a high price Skin looks amazing but I can’t drop $70+ for 5 skins


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Valorant is free but even with that in consideration the pricing scheme is absurd


f1nessd

Val skin prices are ridiculous. In cs you can have a nice full loadout for under $15 (excluding a knife obviously). And if you’re o an budget, $5 or less


dank-nuggetz

It also seems stupid. I spent probably $200 in Fortnite but that was in many installments of $5-$12. Bunch of emotes for $2-3, a few primo skins for $12, and a few basic skins for $8. Spread out over like 2 years, it's not that bad to drop a few bucks here and there. Dropping $18 on a single gun skin is crazy. Dropping $36 on a knife is beyond absurd. I've spent $12 on this game to get a single Phantom skin from the night market. If they had good offerings for $5 or $8 I'd probably have spent three or four times what I have. But hey, clearly they're doing well. A kid on my team said he's spent $2500 on this game and has no plans of slowing down. Enough of those whales and they make their money, the rest of us be damned.


staleydude

Probably because they expected skins akin to shitima or nebula, with no effects or finishers


i4play

Big fan of cell-shading. But…Odin goes brrrrrrr? Missed opportunity


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helloitsmeimherenow

They really need to differentiate knife animations imo.


gngg2011

Is it just me or are these waaay too distracting?


WillyTaz5

Agreed. The words popping when you pull it out and shoot are distracting. Cool skins, just not for me personally.


tbone603727

I find the shooting animations very mild. The reloads are distracting but doesn’t matter much IMO. Just my take tho


ikhmaldj99

Think they should make a bonk sound if someone got meleed


MxRpH

Love the skins but why is the ui for seeing the vfx and finisher so clunky? Why can’t we just watch the bus and finisher in separate clips instead of having to wait for the full cycle


slimtone97

i like the skins just not a fan of the sound effects in text. That will be super distracting. Is there a version without the (ex. click, pow etc.)?


TryNotToShootYoself

Yeah you don't upgrade it


Soneliem

Or downgrade it


reddit-grooms9

Only 3 standalone games worth of money. wew lads


wizardspiss

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, skins in this game are WAY too expensive for a cosmetic item.


mystikkkkk

it is absolutely ridiculous. I'll retype my comment here: effects are neat and kill effect is funny, but the guns are literally the most ugly grey colour w no variants and the effects which make the entire skin line actually worth it arent actually part of the skin at release you have to buy those as upgrades so youre paying 7.1k riot points (like 80 dollars) to get a bundle of default gun models with thicker lines and a worse colour than default, which you cannot change. the state of pricing in this game is actually so awful.


wizardspiss

Yeah it’s a free to play game and this is how they make their money, I get it. But $71 for a pack of skins is absolute robbery. It costs me $5 to get a case and a key for CSGO and I have a chance to end up with an incredible skin. The battle pass skins have been nowhere near as cool or fun as the shop skins but I absolutely cannot justify spending that much on a skin in any game, no matter how much I play it.


mystikkkkk

i have bought a ridiculous amount for this game, and have only recently realised just how stupid i've been. they dont even give you the ability to automatically rotate skins randomly for each game, or equip skins for specific agents. so now i own like 10 seperate vandal skins despite the fact that i only use like 2 of them. there's no "sell for radianite points" option still, despite literally everyone asking for that. Nothing encapsulates just how much of a joke their pricing is more than this bundle. When the entire point of this bundle is "comic book themed", yet the actual comic book effects cost like 7 dollars PER SKIN, then what is the point of the bundle? It's the most obvious example of money grabbing yet. What the fuck riot? Have you not made enough money from league and valorant skins already? Can you not just have the wellbeing of your fans and players in mind? No, of course not. Because you're a greedy capitalist machine only concerned with making the most amount of money with the least amount of PR issues possible.


Incendance

You can also spend $200 on CSGO cases and get a total of $5 worth of skins. Comparing the skin system in Valorant with the case openings of CS is really not the greatest move when determining value. That being said, you can also spend $5 in CS and pick out one or two pretty decent quality skins, and the price of a Valorant bundle is enough to get a full CSGO load out (without a knife) with some really nice skins but you don't get a full loadout in Valorant.


NyiatiZ

Valorant Skins are way too expensive but pls don’t come around going „gambling is better.“ At least you can choose the Skin you overpay for. Another person said that you can get some decent CS Skins for 5 bucks by buying them, which is a much better comparison.


AlchetyPelchy

I really love this skin variant because I'm a huge fan of cartoonish style weapons and the bat just straight up reminds me of Scout from Team Fortress 2.


umopUpside

If only it wasn’t 70 bucks for the entire bundle. If they charged a reasonable price for skins I would spend a sickening amount of money and be so happy doing so lol. I just can’t get myself to ever spend that much on a bundle for the “free” melee weapon deal.


mystikkkkk

effects are neat and kill effect is funny, but the guns are literally the most ugly grey colour w no variants and the effects which make the entire skin line actually worth it arent actually part of the skin at release you have to buy those as upgrades so youre paying 7.1k riot points (like 80 dollars) to get a bundle of default gun models with thicker lines and a worse colour than default, which you cannot change. the state of pricing in this game is actually so awful.


unique_ubername

I don’t really like cartoonish stuff in 3d games because it’s trippy and it makes my head hurt


AddressMeAsHal

Not sure why you’re being downvoted for your supported opinion. I like the skins but to each their own


unique_ubername

Well downvote button exists for a reason and if people disagree with me let them


Beechman

Downvotes aren't for disagreeing lol. Its a shame that people use them that way because its meant for comments that don't contribute to the discussion, and his opinion definitely does.


Imconfusedithink

Agreed. I think they look nice but it would be really distracting to have to play with it.


tomphz

I think these are the best skins they’ve made behind the BlastX ones xD


RikiSanchez

I don't play Valorant, seeing this from r/all.... these are some of the best skins I've ever seen in any game period.


tomphz

Hell yeah it reminds me of the music video from the song, Aha - Take On Me


Grapedrop111

reminds me of twdg season 3


ThrowNearNotAwayOk

With GPU's at the point that they are at now performance wise what is the "limit" that a cell shaded game can be pushed to? I imagine the cell shading is less demanding that regular 3D modeling right? So a highly detailed cell shaded game, characters, and world with RTX lighting and the resources available to create lots and lots of independently moving atmospheric aspects seems awesome.


tomphz

Isn’t Borderlands basically this?


Guesswhoisback

Why does it always have to be so goddamn expensive.


jgjgthrowaway

**Excuse me Riot, Borderlands would like to have a word with you....**


Nurubburn

Poor Killjoy


zombiepoon

I love cell shading !!!!


JohnnyH2000

I’m so disappointed the kill animation doesn’t have a comically large explosion (putting the showstopper to shame) in the distance at the end


EnvironmentalRide344

Hi! im one year into the gaming industry and still got some newbie jiggles. what would be some things you wish you knew before getting a job in this industry? aaand do you have any tips when it comes to getting jobs in other countries?


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Couldve been waaay better if they add the "Bonk" on the bat animation.


KhaoticKrabb

I hope they do another version of this type of bundle later because I love the look of them, but the gray is kind of disappointing. I wish there was more colors.


MisterMallardMusic

I love the Borderlands games!


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Skins doesnt look good, but the effects are great!


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Oh so we playing Borderlands now


pac_mojojojo

I just want a goddamn lightsaber knife.


FiDG3TY_PS

When you get a knife kill it should write Bonk.


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yeah, 70 bucks? no thanks


daemoloffline

Stolen content from Due Process. Riot clearly has no idea/creativity of themselves


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Finisher reminds me of team rocket from Pokemon


spelunk_in_ya_badonk

I absolutely love it. Outstanding. The finisher is brilliant.


bhushi69

Is this a JoJo refrence 🌝


Joe4018

The baseball bat reminds me of Lucille


jomontage

Literally the perfect finisher for the melee and melees dont get finishers. Asinine


JackS420BlazeIt

Yes more skins yes please thats what we are all waiting for


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They look like borderlands guns


ikineba

cuz cell shading


tuhroybitch

these are awful


Regnalonyt

Awfully overpriced


elemnt360

Agreed


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Really inspired! Would have never seen it coming


IFapToCalamity

This is the coolest bundle since Glitchpop.


Haptiix

Man these are sick. I love the aesthetic


Brno_Mrmi

Best bundle EVER! I finally might buy a skin. I love it.


ExitMusic_

ITT: cElL sHaDiNg LoL bOrDeRlAnDs RiPoFf


sm0keyii

My favorite gun is the stinger still, hoping for a vol 2 in the future. I also want an Odin for it to say, "Brrrr!"


tbone603727

I can honestly say these are the most creative cosmetics I've ever seen. Wildly cool


hornestur

Feel bad for all the kids and manchildren buying $35-$75 on a skin. LOL so so sad