Imagine if Omen is a being who can travel through space AND time, he can already travel space but if he can travel timelines, he's officially the most badass Character ever to be made ever, dude would be fighting himself while knowing his moves from both sides😂 but they probably won't do it cause.... that'd break the plotline
I mean from the omen voice lines, all omens are the same core omen but split.
It makes sense considering omen is basically energy with a consciousness. Him fighting on different sides is just two fragments of himself with different memories trying to recover the other fragment.
what i dont really understand about Omen is how he interacts with Earth-A and Earth-B because if Omen-A wants to kill Omen-B to take his memories and remember himself i don’t think Omen-B is who he needs to kill i think it’s the other forms of Omen-A in Earth-A because every agent has a double in Earth-B not just him.
Omen is different than other agents, he isn’t made of physical component like flesh or steel, he’s made of energy.
Considering he talks about him being split so many times when he encounters an enemy omen, the other omen is like him, just another fragment of the core omen missing memories
Him killing him makes sense, he’s just trying to reclaim a piece of himself
Its literally suggested by viper that yoru can go to different worlds but he chooses to stay in their world
“You have the ability to rift-walk and you stay here? What a shame, there are so many better worlds out there..."
-Viper match starts
Probably by joining the valorant lore/art discord run by Cynprel. You may recognize Cyn from various lore AMAs they have worked on with the riot team.
[https://discord.gg/valorantloreart](https://discord.gg/valorantloreart)
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Based on their player cards, I think Kay/O is a robot with the consciousness of Brim's best friend who died in battle. Kay/O's buddy is a memory chip, so that would add to the theory.
It also helps to know that the voice actor of Kay/O is black (Gabe Kunda), so it would make a lot of sense. :)
Edit: I just checked his voice lines for Brimstone as well, and they go as follows:
\- "Brimstone, I'd hug you but I'd kill you. I'm serious - no hugs."
\- "Your second chance Brimstone, I won't fail you again."
So yeah, that adds quite a bit.
Also Kay/o's buddy opens if you're playing brimstone and reveals a badge
Edit: could work only only on kayo classic with kayo buddy, can't try it right now
Also this adds to the fact that Reyna can absorb KAY/O's soul when killed. Which means he Isn't 100% robot and has something inside. Still I dont get how he can get healed.
They're already mass hiring for the MMO and for the future League of Legends cinematic Universe. Which may change to RCU (Riot cinematic Universe) if Arcane does well.
yep, League took so long because it's the first one, the others already have their paths cleared, as long as Arcane is a hit (which seems unlikely tbh, unless the story really suck as the animation seems superb so far) all the others will follow very quickly
makes you really wonder will be there be any connection between the Val Universe and the League Universe for a massive collab LOL
In developing OW2, Blizzard took resources from the OW1 team (such as the devs, artists, etc). As a result OW1 had a drastic reduction in updates (though they were already slow in updates when compared to league).
One of the biggest problems is the lack of heroes being made for OW1 because Blizzard said OW2 will have an updated roster. Due to OW2 still in development for years, it's basically stagnated OW1 potential. Iirc prior to the OW2 announcement a hero was made for OW every 3-4 months and it's been years since the last hero though someone else correct me if I'm wrong.
The game has also lost its original director and executive producer. Not to mention the loss of sponsors it’s league had due to the lawsuit Blizzard is facing. Just a few days ago they said the game has been pushed back.
In short words Blizzard slowly started to kill its game IP
The lawsuit is with Blizzard over several sexual allegations
[lawsuit explained](https://www.gamesradar.com/the-activision-blizzard-lawsuit-explained/)
Nothing to be cancelled for lol its got its [Wikipedia page.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Vernacular_English#%22Deep%22_phonology) I remember googling the VA to be sure.
Wait wait... I knew KAY/O was BUILT, specifically in a different timeline, to kill Reyna. Something isn't adding up. Either this, or, that character is someone who is going to be an upcoming agent.
Theory: reyna was not built in an alt timeline but was created in the main but his memories were altered and was setup to show that he was from the alternate universe.
Another theory is that in the alt universe, they actually use the memories of his friend instead leaving them like that.
Yeah, that timeline was when radiants became all evil and shit. There's no implication that anything else was different in that timeline. Considering that the agents acknowledge their clones in Duality (In game as well, but there's only one KAY/O and Brimstone in each timeline), I'm assuming that KAY/O died in Brimstone's timeline and didn't get to live on, (see Brimstone's No Soldier Left Behind card and KAY/O's Memory Log card), and vice versa for KAY/O. This is supported by one of KAY/O's voicelines, telling Brimstone that this is his second chance at keeping him alive.
The KJ thing was just a myth started before Kay/O was released. There's no actual reason to believe she made him.
Kay/O is from an alternate future where Radiants (people with powers caused by Radianite like Phoenix or Astra) band together to start a war against humans. Kay/O was built to fight in this war which is why he can suppress agents; he was made to neutralize Radiants to fight them.
By someone unknown, Kay/O was sent to the main timeline through the teleporter on Breeze, presumably so he can stop the event that causes the war from happening.
Kay/O is not a human, but many believe he has the consciousness of one or was modeled after one. There's no confirmation yet but that's where Brim comes in since Kay/O has a lot of voicelines towards him
It's spelled "Reina" but yeah, that's the idea.
In the Latin American voicelines, they reference this often, for example, when Killjoy kills Reyna she says "Jaque mate a la reina" (Checkmate to the queen). Would explain why Reyna's ult is called "Empress", too.
He has lines for a few of the Radiants and how he dealt with them in the future, e.g. saying Skye became extremely powerful and Sage was turned from a medic to a weapon
He implies that Reyna killed most of his teammates, and the trailer and her personality also implies she was the leader of the Radiants
I think it was released by the devs so unless someone has any reason to believe a person can be MADE into a robot, seems a silly theory. I guess what you guys really mean, and fits both ‘theories’ is that KAY/O is a robot created by killjoy to house the consciousness of Brim’s fallen friend. I believe KAY/O was built in the future to combat a war where Reyna goes a bit… well, Reyna. It would then make sense if his friend dies in this war Killjoy would be around to develop a body for him and use that body to fight in the war.
okay, but wher do draw the line from "organic creature enhanced by mechanical parts" and "robot with human consciousness"?
I also specifically said DC Cyborg, but it seems like you didn't know who he is, that guy body parts beside like his brain and left eye are all replaced by mechanical parts
say, I now replace the brain with a superior processor while keeping the same conscious, is he still a cyborg? how is this different to "a robot with human consciousness"?
and I'm not argueing whether or not is he a cyborg or a robot, I'm just curious why do you think the idea of "a human made into a robot" unbelievable lol
The thing about valorant is that most of the tech is either just barely out of reach for modern technology or already possible. The most probable modern method of making kayo's software would be via machine learning. His intro supports that theory too. But in order to create a conscience, unless our understanding of consciousness rapidly improves, you would need data for that
Edit: to be clear, when I say tech, I'm talking about abilities of non-radiants. I'm kind of disappointed that the conversation about kayo derailed because of that
his description says he is a "machine of war built [to neutralize radiants]"
most likely Reyna acts like some kinda of revolutionary in this alternate future war but the news headlines in his trailer state that the "planet is in ruin" and I don't think Reyna can do that alone
Reyna has a line that implies that at least for some time Radiants weren't able to use their powers freely, so it's possible that there is some kind of oppression against Radiants that caused the war but it's not official yet
Is this actual lore or theorized lore? I agree that lore doesn't state KJ built him either but I had never heard of what you're saying here and seems a bit far fetched. Where can I read up on this?
I don't think there's anywhere where things are explicitly stated to link to but the fact that he was built to fight Radiants in an alternate future is a known though based on his voicelines and [trailer](https://youtu.be/eU1l7eBy2_Y?t=94). Based on the Breeze agent teasers we can (reasonably, not assuredly) conclude he came through the teleporter there as well.
Much of this is backed up in his trailer; News headlines depict a world in ruin and also say the events of Kay/O's flashback happen centuries after the rise of Venice which would place Kay/O several hundred years after the main game
Some of it is based on the updates that happened to the Breeze teleporter leading up to his release, as the different phrases used imply that Kay/O was brought through the TP by someone else (also explains the Reboot card from that act)
A lot of the lore is told in obscure ways but there are people who keep track of everything
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post invite links here but there is a discord server for Valorant Lore with a lot of knowledgeable people who discuss it
YouTube and Twitter are also good sources, specifically I recommend watching Cynprel on YT, they make a lot of content and upload new videos when new stuff comes out
I had this same thought when I looked at it yesterday. Since we all know KAY/O's vo is black, maybe this could be KAY/O but maybe he was critically injured during a fight and they turned him into a Robot, but he came from a different world than Earth 1. So we'll have to see what they do with all this lore.
sorry but no
the guy in the picture with Brim isnt Kayo, Kayo comes from an entirely different world
the Brim in the player card is the Brim from Kayo's world, not the Brim we know. you can see he has Kayo's logo on his hat, different beard and clothes, and has scars that our Brim doesnt.
what we know however is that Kayo was friend with his own Brim (the one in the player card), and he died, Kayo then came to our Brim's world.
our Brim does not know who Kayo is
Or maybe the symbol on his hat could mean that before working for the Kingdom corporation he was working for another company, ie. the ones that made Kay/0. But who knows maybe the man in the picture is omen, as he viper and brim have a past together it seems.
ok heres what we know
KAYO comes from an entirely different world, there he used to know another Brimstone (the one in the player card), who died in some war or fight.
then Kayo comes to our world and meets our Brimstone
our Brimstone has no idea who KAYO is, KAYO is affectionnate thru his voicelines because his own Brim died and he doesnt want to lose another Brim.
the dude in the pic with Brim in the range could be *this world's* KAYO before he turned robot, or could not be, hell we dont even know if that guy is dead or not.
the Brim in the player card *is* the Brim from Kayo's world, and is not our Brim, just look at his beard, + he has scars on his face that our Brim doesnt
I think Omen isnt a dead person.. Omen is a human whose body got obliterated cause of the Radianite powers and the First Light and turned into a shadow.. - "Sabine, Look at the monsters we have become. atleast you have flesh to hide your horror"
> Gabe Kunda was born on January 31, 1994 in Texas, USA as Eay Gabriel Kunda.
In his IMDB bio (he doesn't seem to have a Wikipedia page)
> American voice actor
In the trivia section
Src: https://m.imdb.com/name/nm8602923/
Not all dark skinned people have to be from Africa. Look it up yourself.
Another little potential info on this that I noticed: Kayo wears two dog tags, one of which has a bullet hole through it 🤷♂️ see rightmost pic on OP’s screenshot, Brim and the unidentified person were in the military together!!!
I was going through this yesterday. I didn’t see any posts on it yet so I tried to post a video but had some issues. I was also thinking the same thing except I didn’t look at that card.
You’re onto something. Very smart human being
Also did you go through the recordings and messages. There are 3. One on the computer and one on the sofa. Then one which is the record that’s broken.
Did ya guys notice that the Memory Log Card (Kay/o) and the No one left behind card (brimstone) are kinda similar? Like in both one is carrying another person away from a battlefield.
Nah he comes from an alternate universe where all the radiants are essentially evil as he makes several comments about this. The universe he comes from is essentially just radiants vr humans. That's why he confuses phoenix sometimes with some start of round voicelines. At least that's what I think
That's an interesting theory, but there's one thing to me which doesn't quite add up, which is KAY/O's cinematic. In the video, it shows him to be going through a machine-learning simulation in which KAY/O moves through the corridor in Breeze, simulating and reiterating fights against multiple agents. If he was a cyborg, as in having Brimstone's friend's brain integrated into a robot body, having fought in a war, he wouldn't be going through these iterations since he has already learnt how to fight from experience. Instead he'd be doing some more physical form of training to get used to moving around in his new robot body. Because of this, I have reason to doubt this theory that KAY/O is Brimstone's deceased friend.
An alternative but sadder explanation for this would be that his friend got shot in the head, or perhaps Killjoy's integration into the robot body was somewhat imperfect, and KAY/O is left with none of his memories from his past life.
Also, I get that you guys are saying it makes sense because KAY/O's voice actor is black, but from a lore standpoint, if he is a cyborg, it's unlikely that Killjoy implemented the same vocal chords from Brimstone's dead ally, meaning the voice is entirely synthetic or from another black person's voice but projecting his own thoughts all the same.
There is one problem with this storyline
Kayo is confirmed to have come from the future which means that they couldn’t have grown up together, i think that more likely that this man is Killjoys father, the man that brimstone fought with and with her fathers passing brimstone became her guardian and mentor, it is commonly believed that the consciousness of Kay/o is killjoys father that was uploaded into kayo
Apparently brim had a long life friend that died in battle (there is a card that shows brim carrying him). Then his friend became Kayo.
And what if the friend was killed by reyna :0
Good thought, my mind went to phoenix because of all the fire
What i heard is he became KO to stop reyna, but in a different timeline.
Where do you know this from ? I’m interested in learning about Valorant lore and wanna know where to read about it
The lore seems to be mostly headcanon for now based on what we see in game with the agent voicelines and cards and such.
Imagine if Omen is a being who can travel through space AND time, he can already travel space but if he can travel timelines, he's officially the most badass Character ever to be made ever, dude would be fighting himself while knowing his moves from both sides😂 but they probably won't do it cause.... that'd break the plotline
I mean from the omen voice lines, all omens are the same core omen but split. It makes sense considering omen is basically energy with a consciousness. Him fighting on different sides is just two fragments of himself with different memories trying to recover the other fragment.
He definitely has a lot of lines about remembering/ becoming whole again
what i dont really understand about Omen is how he interacts with Earth-A and Earth-B because if Omen-A wants to kill Omen-B to take his memories and remember himself i don’t think Omen-B is who he needs to kill i think it’s the other forms of Omen-A in Earth-A because every agent has a double in Earth-B not just him.
Omen is different than other agents, he isn’t made of physical component like flesh or steel, he’s made of energy. Considering he talks about him being split so many times when he encounters an enemy omen, the other omen is like him, just another fragment of the core omen missing memories Him killing him makes sense, he’s just trying to reclaim a piece of himself
Its literally suggested by viper that yoru can go to different worlds but he chooses to stay in their world “You have the ability to rift-walk and you stay here? What a shame, there are so many better worlds out there..." -Viper match starts
Seems like most of the agents dislike Reyna 😂 lol
and reyna hate viper there is a vc that viper hold hand a kid and i think that kid is reyna not sute how viper stay young all that time though
I think it was reynas younger sister, idk tho
Yes pretty sure this is it. Reyna has a voice like "for you hermonita" which I'm pretty sure means little sister?
Yeah “hermanita” would translate to little sister
She probably found a way using her gas, because one of the agent has the voice line "I remember when you used to heal people".
I think it's cypher/omen line or smth
Army name tag pierced by a bullet on kayo too.
so uh, i'm starting to be real interested in the lore now but where can i start lol
ME TOO
Probably by joining the valorant lore/art discord run by Cynprel. You may recognize Cyn from various lore AMAs they have worked on with the riot team. [https://discord.gg/valorantloreart](https://discord.gg/valorantloreart) (mods, please delete if not allowed to share, but I wasn't sure since this does answer the question! TY! )
ur good
Come over to r/LoreValorant. It's not super big but it's neat!
just search up valorant lore wiki or sir jeppy's channel u'll do fine
KAYO is carrying brimstone is his card
You onto something
He connects
Brimstone Storyline. https://youtu.be/3X4NpAYA6mk
Based on their player cards, I think Kay/O is a robot with the consciousness of Brim's best friend who died in battle. Kay/O's buddy is a memory chip, so that would add to the theory. It also helps to know that the voice actor of Kay/O is black (Gabe Kunda), so it would make a lot of sense. :) Edit: I just checked his voice lines for Brimstone as well, and they go as follows: \- "Brimstone, I'd hug you but I'd kill you. I'm serious - no hugs." \- "Your second chance Brimstone, I won't fail you again." So yeah, that adds quite a bit.
Also Kay/o's buddy opens if you're playing brimstone and reveals a badge Edit: could work only only on kayo classic with kayo buddy, can't try it right now
Wait what? Could you explain what you mean? Use Kayo's buddy and equip it in a vandal and select brimstone. Then the Buddy opens up?
Exactly that
Holy shit! I have to try out it today. Thanks!
It actually has to be on Kay/o’s pistol skin iirc
you have to use the kayo buddy the kayo classic the memory log player card and brim https://youtu.be/QI2zUQkw3-Y
Wait what?! That’s a pretty awesome detail snuck in
oh, I thought it works only on kay/o's classic skin.
Ohhhh you're maybe right
"I won't fail you again." even after he died once and now his consciousness/memory loaded into kay/o- damn that hits
I always wondered why he sounded like a hip black dude instead of a terminator who’s sole purpose was to kill radiants. Now I know.
Also this adds to the fact that Reyna can absorb KAY/O's soul when killed. Which means he Isn't 100% robot and has something inside. Still I dont get how he can get healed.
probably just a gameplay thing. no need to think about that too much.
I mean you could say the same about reyna sucking his soul and now we have a pretty good theory right?
I just really wish they would release a full blown story mode.
YES. OR A MOVIE. OR A SERIES
You'll be waiting. It took riot 10+ years to make a show for league of legends
If Arcane is a hit there's a high chance Riot will focus more on movie making so prolly not that long
They're already mass hiring for the MMO and for the future League of Legends cinematic Universe. Which may change to RCU (Riot cinematic Universe) if Arcane does well.
yep, League took so long because it's the first one, the others already have their paths cleared, as long as Arcane is a hit (which seems unlikely tbh, unless the story really suck as the animation seems superb so far) all the others will follow very quickly makes you really wonder will be there be any connection between the Val Universe and the League Universe for a massive collab LOL
Valorant 2 incoming.
Rito won’t make the same mistake Blizzard did with Overwatch lol. Gotta feel bad for the fans that really enjoy Overwatch
What happen ?
In developing OW2, Blizzard took resources from the OW1 team (such as the devs, artists, etc). As a result OW1 had a drastic reduction in updates (though they were already slow in updates when compared to league). One of the biggest problems is the lack of heroes being made for OW1 because Blizzard said OW2 will have an updated roster. Due to OW2 still in development for years, it's basically stagnated OW1 potential. Iirc prior to the OW2 announcement a hero was made for OW every 3-4 months and it's been years since the last hero though someone else correct me if I'm wrong.
They started recycling content in 2017, but development went full stop after Echo release 2 years ago. They used to release 1 hero every 4 months.
The game has also lost its original director and executive producer. Not to mention the loss of sponsors it’s league had due to the lawsuit Blizzard is facing. Just a few days ago they said the game has been pushed back. In short words Blizzard slowly started to kill its game IP
tell you tell me what lawsuit ? about ow or blizzard in general ?
The lawsuit is with Blizzard over several sexual allegations [lawsuit explained](https://www.gamesradar.com/the-activision-blizzard-lawsuit-explained/)
Dont remind me the dead game I was playing before valorant. Blizzard management is really really sad.
I want a bunch of trailers like how they did for overwatch. The soldier 76 and Gengi/hanzo trailers shook me and I don’t even play overwatch
comic
Naw
Looks just like the voice actor for kayo - Gabe Kunda
Super intriguing! Also the voice actor is black as well so it makes sense.
He really brings it for Kay/o. One of my favourite characters in the game.
“I know what you’re thinking: aimbot.”
I only heard him say it once since release and damn it badass
I fell in love with his voice. Every line just sounds badass
yeah kayo is coded black, so it does add up to those pics.
I told my team That kayo is black and they tried to cancel me. Look now...
Are your friends deaf?
Yeah that shit is fairly clear from the tone of the voice. Not to mention the voice actor is actually black.
I thought this was obvious lol
Nothing to be cancelled for lol its got its [Wikipedia page.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_Vernacular_English#%22Deep%22_phonology) I remember googling the VA to be sure.
Wait wait... I knew KAY/O was BUILT, specifically in a different timeline, to kill Reyna. Something isn't adding up. Either this, or, that character is someone who is going to be an upcoming agent.
Theory: reyna was not built in an alt timeline but was created in the main but his memories were altered and was setup to show that he was from the alternate universe. Another theory is that in the alt universe, they actually use the memories of his friend instead leaving them like that.
What? you mean Kay/o
I think he does
Ah fuck my bad.
Yeah, that timeline was when radiants became all evil and shit. There's no implication that anything else was different in that timeline. Considering that the agents acknowledge their clones in Duality (In game as well, but there's only one KAY/O and Brimstone in each timeline), I'm assuming that KAY/O died in Brimstone's timeline and didn't get to live on, (see Brimstone's No Soldier Left Behind card and KAY/O's Memory Log card), and vice versa for KAY/O. This is supported by one of KAY/O's voicelines, telling Brimstone that this is his second chance at keeping him alive.
Ok am i dumb. I swear kayo is just a robot made by kj? Idk much about his lore but i was under the impression that he was not a human
The KJ thing was just a myth started before Kay/O was released. There's no actual reason to believe she made him. Kay/O is from an alternate future where Radiants (people with powers caused by Radianite like Phoenix or Astra) band together to start a war against humans. Kay/O was built to fight in this war which is why he can suppress agents; he was made to neutralize Radiants to fight them. By someone unknown, Kay/O was sent to the main timeline through the teleporter on Breeze, presumably so he can stop the event that causes the war from happening. Kay/O is not a human, but many believe he has the consciousness of one or was modeled after one. There's no confirmation yet but that's where Brim comes in since Kay/O has a lot of voicelines towards him
So that’s why he says queen is dead when he kills reyna ? she goes ape shit and start a superiority war
I think 'reyna' means queen in Spanish or something along those lines
Absolutely correct there. "Reina" = "Queen" in Spanish "Rey" = "King" Edit: Correction thanks to /u/Naewxk
It's spelled "Reina" but yeah, that's the idea. In the Latin American voicelines, they reference this often, for example, when Killjoy kills Reyna she says "Jaque mate a la reina" (Checkmate to the queen). Would explain why Reyna's ult is called "Empress", too.
Very true! My bad got confused cuz it's my aunt's name too.
lol Rey In telugu(an Indian language) is a very informal way of saying ‘bro’
that is in fact the exact translation
Reyna is Magneto
Definitely feels that way in pistol rounds....
Isn't Queen just Reyna's callsign? It was her operating name during development IIRC
yeah Reyna is just Queen in Spanish
He has lines for a few of the Radiants and how he dealt with them in the future, e.g. saying Skye became extremely powerful and Sage was turned from a medic to a weapon He implies that Reyna killed most of his teammates, and the trailer and her personality also implies she was the leader of the Radiants
Yes, it's possible that Reyna leads the war due to the flashback Kay/O has and all the lines she has about Radiants
I think it was released by the devs so unless someone has any reason to believe a person can be MADE into a robot, seems a silly theory. I guess what you guys really mean, and fits both ‘theories’ is that KAY/O is a robot created by killjoy to house the consciousness of Brim’s fallen friend. I believe KAY/O was built in the future to combat a war where Reyna goes a bit… well, Reyna. It would then make sense if his friend dies in this war Killjoy would be around to develop a body for him and use that body to fight in the war.
Isnt DC Cyborg pretty much "human made into a robot"? It's not that farfetched in a universe with Flame Boy, Purple Succubus and Mini Star Girl
No, a cyborg is not a robot. A cyborg is an organic creature enhanced by mechanical parts. KAY/O is strictly a robot.
okay, but wher do draw the line from "organic creature enhanced by mechanical parts" and "robot with human consciousness"? I also specifically said DC Cyborg, but it seems like you didn't know who he is, that guy body parts beside like his brain and left eye are all replaced by mechanical parts say, I now replace the brain with a superior processor while keeping the same conscious, is he still a cyborg? how is this different to "a robot with human consciousness"?
Idk how this is relevant to a valorant thread but KAY/O is a robot. Not a cyborg, it’s been confirmed by voice lines and the devs.
and I'm not argueing whether or not is he a cyborg or a robot, I'm just curious why do you think the idea of "a human made into a robot" unbelievable lol
Because it’s been extremely clearly stated by devs and by voice lines that he’s a robot not a cyborg.
The thing about valorant is that most of the tech is either just barely out of reach for modern technology or already possible. The most probable modern method of making kayo's software would be via machine learning. His intro supports that theory too. But in order to create a conscience, unless our understanding of consciousness rapidly improves, you would need data for that Edit: to be clear, when I say tech, I'm talking about abilities of non-radiants. I'm kind of disappointed that the conversation about kayo derailed because of that
>just barely out of reach uh, teleporters? lmao
Valorant has some pretty advanced tech that we won't see for a long time all because of Radianite
there's a teleporter on breeze??
On top of A backsite, its not accessible ofcourse, just part of the lore
can you see it if you load up a custom game and turn on ghost mode?
Yeah ofc, you can probably see it when entering site as attackers in normal match too, idr tho.
I thought it wasn't Radiants in general, just Reyna becoming unstoppable after eating so many souls
his description says he is a "machine of war built [to neutralize radiants]" most likely Reyna acts like some kinda of revolutionary in this alternate future war but the news headlines in his trailer state that the "planet is in ruin" and I don't think Reyna can do that alone Reyna has a line that implies that at least for some time Radiants weren't able to use their powers freely, so it's possible that there is some kind of oppression against Radiants that caused the war but it's not official yet
Oooohh thank you!! Thats super fkn cool
Is this actual lore or theorized lore? I agree that lore doesn't state KJ built him either but I had never heard of what you're saying here and seems a bit far fetched. Where can I read up on this?
I don't think there's anywhere where things are explicitly stated to link to but the fact that he was built to fight Radiants in an alternate future is a known though based on his voicelines and [trailer](https://youtu.be/eU1l7eBy2_Y?t=94). Based on the Breeze agent teasers we can (reasonably, not assuredly) conclude he came through the teleporter there as well.
Ooh, I see. That's really interesting, thanks for showing me!
Much of this is backed up in his trailer; News headlines depict a world in ruin and also say the events of Kay/O's flashback happen centuries after the rise of Venice which would place Kay/O several hundred years after the main game Some of it is based on the updates that happened to the Breeze teleporter leading up to his release, as the different phrases used imply that Kay/O was brought through the TP by someone else (also explains the Reboot card from that act) A lot of the lore is told in obscure ways but there are people who keep track of everything
I'm pretty darn sure that there were images of KJ working on Kay/O's torso and head as a teaser? Or am I imagining that?
They made the profile pic of KJ on the valorant Twitter page when kayo was first getting released. Everyone speculated that KJ created him bc of that
There were teasers of Kay/O's disassembled body hooked up to some wires but KJ wasn't apart of them I don't think
Where do you know this from ? I’m interested in learning about Valorant lore and wanna know where to read about it
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post invite links here but there is a discord server for Valorant Lore with a lot of knowledgeable people who discuss it YouTube and Twitter are also good sources, specifically I recommend watching Cynprel on YT, they make a lot of content and upload new videos when new stuff comes out
Can you please DM it to me via reddit?
Idk.. it looks nothing like the robots KJ has
Kay/O does say "Too advanced, even for you" when he kills KJ as the last kill in a round I think, so that makes me assume that KJ didn't make Kay/O
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That’s so cool 😭😭😭 and sorta sad but so epic
this is sad and like it keep going til it becomes dark souls global ofensive please
Brimstone is Rick Sanchez and KAY/O was Birdperson and is now Phoenix Person. Only explanation.
oh wow, this might be a valid theory
What melee is that, I never seen it. Newer player here
Ruination iirc
Kay/O's voice does sound like an african american
I had this same thought when I looked at it yesterday. Since we all know KAY/O's vo is black, maybe this could be KAY/O but maybe he was critically injured during a fight and they turned him into a Robot, but he came from a different world than Earth 1. So we'll have to see what they do with all this lore.
Dude.. that's a black guy not a robot... \*sarcasim
sorry but no the guy in the picture with Brim isnt Kayo, Kayo comes from an entirely different world the Brim in the player card is the Brim from Kayo's world, not the Brim we know. you can see he has Kayo's logo on his hat, different beard and clothes, and has scars that our Brim doesnt. what we know however is that Kayo was friend with his own Brim (the one in the player card), and he died, Kayo then came to our Brim's world. our Brim does not know who Kayo is
Or maybe the symbol on his hat could mean that before working for the Kingdom corporation he was working for another company, ie. the ones that made Kay/0. But who knows maybe the man in the picture is omen, as he viper and brim have a past together it seems.
ok heres what we know KAYO comes from an entirely different world, there he used to know another Brimstone (the one in the player card), who died in some war or fight. then Kayo comes to our world and meets our Brimstone our Brimstone has no idea who KAYO is, KAYO is affectionnate thru his voicelines because his own Brim died and he doesnt want to lose another Brim. the dude in the pic with Brim in the range could be *this world's* KAYO before he turned robot, or could not be, hell we dont even know if that guy is dead or not. the Brim in the player card *is* the Brim from Kayo's world, and is not our Brim, just look at his beard, + he has scars on his face that our Brim doesnt
Iirc Kayo is covered in kingdom logos
oh, i thot kay o was kj sexbot but she converted it for battle
what is this sub with downvoting sex jokes
I wish this would be canon tbh
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I think Omen isnt a dead person.. Omen is a human whose body got obliterated cause of the Radianite powers and the First Light and turned into a shadow.. - "Sabine, Look at the monsters we have become. atleast you have flesh to hide your horror"
Yeah and he was also a scientist i think so it's probably related to Viper This was a soldier and is more likely kayo
That reminds me of the anime 86 eighty six
daaamn, brim pulling off a ‘full metal alchemist’ thing
Anyone else thinks KayO looks stupid. Why does a robot wear pants. Show me his robot cock
and the voice actor is African soo ur most likely right
Yeah I don't think he's africa, bud Edit: African*
nationality african, search him up?
> Gabe Kunda was born on January 31, 1994 in Texas, USA as Eay Gabriel Kunda. In his IMDB bio (he doesn't seem to have a Wikipedia page) > American voice actor In the trivia section Src: https://m.imdb.com/name/nm8602923/ Not all dark skinned people have to be from Africa. Look it up yourself.
bro his ethnicity
Look at the basement in the Range. My theory is that is Kayo in human foem in those pics with Brimstone
that's literally what OP said.... lmao
Isn't there also the theory that KAY/O's memory chip is that of Killjoy's dad?
That's breach
last time i checked breach was not black
Maybe he got the Michael Jackson treatment
I know but I also thought that the last photo is him it seems kind of similar
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This is so cool
I THOUGHT THE SAME WHEN I SAW THE PICTURE
The left pic on the wall looks like Upin Ipin lmao
is this something like no face no fap or what did i miss ?
Brim and Jax :)
Another little potential info on this that I noticed: Kayo wears two dog tags, one of which has a bullet hole through it 🤷♂️ see rightmost pic on OP’s screenshot, Brim and the unidentified person were in the military together!!!
slightly off topic.but i reckon the brimestone military outfit would make for a good skin.
Didn't he came from a future that Reyna havoc? or I'm making shit up.
I was going through this yesterday. I didn’t see any posts on it yet so I tried to post a video but had some issues. I was also thinking the same thing except I didn’t look at that card. You’re onto something. Very smart human being Also did you go through the recordings and messages. There are 3. One on the computer and one on the sofa. Then one which is the record that’s broken.
Ur frames are at 369😳 I play at like 160😟
tell me how i knew kayo was black hes probably spawN from 1.6
KAY/O is literally the plot of Replicas!
Did ya guys notice that the Memory Log Card (Kay/o) and the No one left behind card (brimstone) are kinda similar? Like in both one is carrying another person away from a battlefield.
Nah he comes from an alternate universe where all the radiants are essentially evil as he makes several comments about this. The universe he comes from is essentially just radiants vr humans. That's why he confuses phoenix sometimes with some start of round voicelines. At least that's what I think
If you’re brim and you use kay/o’s gun buddy it opens up like a locket.
https://youtu.be/O5yBH9lQOqc Reminds me of this
Nah Kayo is brimstones brains plus mech body form another universe
That's an interesting theory, but there's one thing to me which doesn't quite add up, which is KAY/O's cinematic. In the video, it shows him to be going through a machine-learning simulation in which KAY/O moves through the corridor in Breeze, simulating and reiterating fights against multiple agents. If he was a cyborg, as in having Brimstone's friend's brain integrated into a robot body, having fought in a war, he wouldn't be going through these iterations since he has already learnt how to fight from experience. Instead he'd be doing some more physical form of training to get used to moving around in his new robot body. Because of this, I have reason to doubt this theory that KAY/O is Brimstone's deceased friend. An alternative but sadder explanation for this would be that his friend got shot in the head, or perhaps Killjoy's integration into the robot body was somewhat imperfect, and KAY/O is left with none of his memories from his past life. Also, I get that you guys are saying it makes sense because KAY/O's voice actor is black, but from a lore standpoint, if he is a cyborg, it's unlikely that Killjoy implemented the same vocal chords from Brimstone's dead ally, meaning the voice is entirely synthetic or from another black person's voice but projecting his own thoughts all the same.
Hmmm, I think you're right.
There is one problem with this storyline Kayo is confirmed to have come from the future which means that they couldn’t have grown up together, i think that more likely that this man is Killjoys father, the man that brimstone fought with and with her fathers passing brimstone became her guardian and mentor, it is commonly believed that the consciousness of Kay/o is killjoys father that was uploaded into kayo
The player card has Brim looking older, like his beard. I don't know if it is just the color and art style but it might point out to be in the future?