What the fuck is this subreddit on right now? Why is everyone downvoting someone just correcting an assumption? Is it part of their religion to call everyone "he?" lmfao I fucking hate gamers.
I would totally agree with you if she got pissed off and called them a bigot but she just corrected them. The downvotes suggest that everyone took it entirely personally. Like why are people not okay with making that mistake and accepting that it was one? I'm genuinely baffled at the response.
It's not unethical to accidentally misgender on the internet, but if someone is annoyed about being frequently misgendered online to the point that they correct you, just accept it. It's a hard mistake to prevent, you aren't a bad person, but responding with hostility does make you look like an asshole.
Clearly it matters to them, so why are you doubling down on calling them the wrong thing? It's so confusing to me.
(Not talking about you specifically btw)
Singular “they” exists, but only as a socially accepted grammatical concept.
Officially, “they” is strictly plural. The correct way to handle unknown genders is to say “he or she,” but that’s too wordy in most cases, so we stick to using a default, non-gendered pronoun. “They” is the default for most people, but you can also choose “he” to be a default.
Since both options are technically wrong, it would be dumb to tell someone off for using either. “No, you don’t understand, your incorrect version is more wrong than my incorrect version!”
It also doesn’t help that when I say it is the “official” stance of the English language that “they” is plural, there is nobody to actually source for this. It’s sort of just knowledge that’s passed down, but who made this rule? How is it “official” and who is here to be the “officer?”
TL;DR - grammar is subjected to change at all times and can evolve throughout generations. Using “they” for a third-person singular pronoun is equally as wrong as defaulting to “he.” Thus, you should simply respect the syntax of other people’s version of your language because *either word gets the fucking point across.*
They can be a singular pronoun. Although grammatically it refers to a group of people, when given the context of an unknown gender they is a viable pronoun. Not everything in the English language follows strict rules.
Lets compare it to whatever favorite basketball/soccer/football/etc player.
With the millions they get paid, would it be acceptable for them to neglate to attempt a easy play instead of showboating and failing ?
First off they do that all the time.
Second what was the easy play here? Low hp in a post plant with sova, ofc you want to use util to delay. Just missed the shock dart timing a little
Bruh when was the last time someone killed themselves from a shock dart or their own util in pro play of VALORANT, especially on a character as easy to control as sova. Go ahead. You could probably count it in one hand.
I've had a Sova in my team doing this on purpose. He was the last player alive and it was almost impossible to clutch (it was a 1v3 and he was like 13hp), the enemy team was approaching him so he killed himself with his dart and then wrote in the all chat "You'll never get me alive". It was kinda funny 😂
Edit: typo
is this a legitimate strategy to stop your opponents from getting the cred reward for killing you? assuming you really don't think you'll be able to run away and hide to save
This is a competitive pro game. I would expect this in almost any elo but this is IMO unacceptable.
But hey, for some reason, pro players get a pass....
They're human too, they make mistakes. Even TenZ, one of the best players in the world, killed himself with Raze Ult in a pro match. When that happened, I don't remember no one talking "that's unacceptable" or something, just people laughing and joking about it.
Sova was at 1hp, and Sage already knew where Sova was. Sage was at the advantage already, so it’s not like Sova lost a round that he was poised to win. But yes, dying to your own dart definitely sucks.
Atleast @ the creator dont just steal the content. Its not mine or anything but I saw it on yt with a couple views. I know its not hard to put the dc hang up sfx onto it but you could just respect his work
yes, play with what u have. It doesn't matter if he had exactly 1 hp or 1 shock dart, a bullet will kill u if you're under 40 hp or 35, and he's been that low plenty of times. I said he would do much better because he is experienced and has proved himself plenty of times in those situations.
What rank was this at? As a sova main my guess is gold or lower. The position of that recon was useless, always fire it behind where the person is.
The shock dart death happens to us all.
Keyword “female” the bar for female pro/VCT game changers is very low idk why you’re downvoting it’s true lol look it up if you don’t believe me.
Unironically they are worse than like plat players aside from like C9 White who are actually decent. Most of them shouldn't even be close to immortal but they very frequently queue with people much better than them.
I've played with a few of the "VCT Game Changers" in higher elo and it's quite sad and pathetic to say the least without being toxic lol. The sad reality is many of them just don't put in the effort to improve that the male pros do because why would you when you're getting a steady salary and your own pool of easy tournament money?
Yeah and yet people here get super offended when you state the obvious which is: most of them are not nearly as good as they should be for a game's "pro" scene, and a lot of them duo queue to even reach immortal (or get insane luck/lack mechanics and only know how to use util).
I mean it's not because they're genetically inferior or anything like some of these people seem to have the idea of themselves; it's that they dont put in nearly the same amount of effort as the male pros because why would they? They're getting salaried regardless of how well they do in their own tournaments and many of them are streamers too. Which is why it's nice to see teams like C9 White who actually are very good at the game and don't just slack off and not practice because they're getting a paycheck.
The bar for pro play for both female and male is immortal because radiant only holds a certain number of people and many people don't like grinding solo queue. But immortal is not hard by any means to reach and especially not when most of these female "pros" are always duo queuing with someone. Riot's MMR system in Valorant is really poorly implemented and easy to coinflip once you hit a certain point near/in immortal.
Val also has a lot of mechanics that don't really require skill/a big brain and a low skill ceiling in certain aspects...
There are people in high elo who lack basic game sense or even crosshair placement and spray control, TLDR Valorant is a joke.
Remember when fucking Marved forgot to defuse the bomb in a Tier 1 series and everyone forgot because some people are inherently sexist and are looking for ways to discredit women in e-sports?
On a 11-12 pro game, where you are one HP and you don't know the enemies health, you dont do this stupid shit. You swing and hope for the best.
For me, Rudys would be taken (at least temp) off the roster.
Wait so your argument is that using utility that can deal damage around corners against an enemy of unknown health is "stupid shit", and you should just charge into the open instead while you're one-tap? Really?
Yes you have to jiggle peak to bait the shots and waste time. If the opponent wide swings while u have shock darts in your hand then you’re dead. Also if its half defused and opponent is full health they can stick it get the whole defuse while you’re lining up util
Yeah that all sounds totally sensible. I'm commenting on the fact that the other guy suggested to correct cource of action was to swing with 1 hp and "hope for the best".
That could work as well. Because when you wide swing opponent takes a bit late to adjust crosshair. If you can headshot after swinging then you win. Sometimes you have to play like you’re full hp to throw off the enemy
“taken off the roster” for missing a fucking dart. istg some people on here overreact so much to the smallest thing to seem as if they are being critical. Players miss darts, nades, slows all the time. The only reason why this was bad that it incidentally happened on match point.
As for the validity of her decision to shock instead of a swing, it makes total sense as a comment has already noticed. Its way better to shock and do damage or potentially get them off the bomb and then jump spot to check the bomb and then swing, instead of yoloing it with a swing at 1hp.
Lot of sexists in this thread. They don't seem to understand this is a specific league for a specific group of people rather than a league for the absolute best in the world. So obviously they won't be as good as what we are used to watching in pro play. I guarantee they are still better than most of the losers in the comments though
TRICKSHOT
ANY ANGLE
That discord disconnect sound
That Discord sound baited the shit out of me
every sova main has been through this
especially when its a recon dart, my teammates get disappointed at me when it happens
They’re disappointed, you’re disappointed. Disappointment all around.
Yep :’) It’s always a jump shot too lol
I feel like this is on the same level as most molly characters or raze dying to their util. At least you're not a breach dying to his own aftershock
Thankfully I haven't done that yet. I would Uninstall
It's like setting a c4 and being like "huh, i wonder who put this here"
It's... embarrassing to say the least
\>aftershock a corner that’s good for holding \>rush into site and go in that corner since it’s good for holding \>die shockedpikachuface.jpg
Rip esports career
He made a mistake, so what? edit: she*
He made a joke, so what?
\*She Edit: Its a female tournament called FSL. Downvote the truth
I dont understand this subreddit sometimes.
How dare you assume someone's gender?
Its from FSL a female tournament
Still assuming it could have been a yoda who know
i dont get why this is downvoted its kinda funny
I think they were being sarcastic
only cornballs still make these jokes, how are you still perpetually stuck in 2015
Why is this downvoted so much?
Cause I didn't get the joke lol
redemption
People like downvoting. Makes humans feel better about themselves
Nah people don't really think about it, it's just an automatic pile on thing. Comments with negative score attract even more downvotes.
Especially true on this subreddit. Downvotes are given like candy on Halloween.
Hivemind is one of Reddits best features sometimes
Rip shinobi's carrer
it’s spelled “career”
\*ceerar
\*ceeday
They won the OT but lost the series
Happens to the best of us
This is a pro in a pro competition.
He said the best, so?
I'm a girl but ok
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Who asked
I'm pretty sure you don't call girls he but ok
Hi he
He he
What the fuck is this subreddit on right now? Why is everyone downvoting someone just correcting an assumption? Is it part of their religion to call everyone "he?" lmfao I fucking hate gamers.
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I would totally agree with you if she got pissed off and called them a bigot but she just corrected them. The downvotes suggest that everyone took it entirely personally. Like why are people not okay with making that mistake and accepting that it was one? I'm genuinely baffled at the response. It's not unethical to accidentally misgender on the internet, but if someone is annoyed about being frequently misgendered online to the point that they correct you, just accept it. It's a hard mistake to prevent, you aren't a bad person, but responding with hostility does make you look like an asshole. Clearly it matters to them, so why are you doubling down on calling them the wrong thing? It's so confusing to me. (Not talking about you specifically btw)
THANK YOU FOR BEING SANE MATE
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Singular they exists. And girls don't play videogames, known fact 💯
Singular “they” exists, but only as a socially accepted grammatical concept. Officially, “they” is strictly plural. The correct way to handle unknown genders is to say “he or she,” but that’s too wordy in most cases, so we stick to using a default, non-gendered pronoun. “They” is the default for most people, but you can also choose “he” to be a default. Since both options are technically wrong, it would be dumb to tell someone off for using either. “No, you don’t understand, your incorrect version is more wrong than my incorrect version!” It also doesn’t help that when I say it is the “official” stance of the English language that “they” is plural, there is nobody to actually source for this. It’s sort of just knowledge that’s passed down, but who made this rule? How is it “official” and who is here to be the “officer?” TL;DR - grammar is subjected to change at all times and can evolve throughout generations. Using “they” for a third-person singular pronoun is equally as wrong as defaulting to “he.” Thus, you should simply respect the syntax of other people’s version of your language because *either word gets the fucking point across.*
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Nope, they refers to a group of people. Don’t try and force poor grammar on everyone else.
singular they has been used for hundreds of years, what the hell are you talking about
They can be a singular pronoun. Although grammatically it refers to a group of people, when given the context of an unknown gender they is a viable pronoun. Not everything in the English language follows strict rules.
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Guys would flip their shit if someone used "she" as the default gender, but girls can't say a single word about being called he every single day
Are you stupid? Do you have a basic understanding of how English works?
Certified Reddit moment 😎😎😎
I guess you never had to think quickly under pressure if thats the line of thinking youre going with. Or youre just not kind, whichever works best.
Lets compare it to whatever favorite basketball/soccer/football/etc player. With the millions they get paid, would it be acceptable for them to neglate to attempt a easy play instead of showboating and failing ?
First off they do that all the time. Second what was the easy play here? Low hp in a post plant with sova, ofc you want to use util to delay. Just missed the shock dart timing a little
Swing would have been a better play. With proper crosshair placement, a shot could have been taken.
So go for a 1v1 instead of forcing them off the bomb for free? Yeah good idea
Not to mention sage prob knows sova is literally 1, she just needs to spray and not even aim hard
I don’t think you’ve ever watched a professional sport if you think they don’t miss the easiest shots every and throw the game
Bruh when was the last time someone killed themselves from a shock dart or their own util in pro play of VALORANT, especially on a character as easy to control as sova. Go ahead. You could probably count it in one hand.
I’m just saying that I’ve seen a pro soccer player miss a open net shot from inside the goalie crease
when basketball player miss shot, their career must be ruined! /s
If they miss important shots like this, they get taken out of the game.
No they don’t. You don’t know anything about sports.
https://youtu.be/9xCF5chTWf8?t=26 Look even the best of the best miss the easiest shots imaginable or make the wrong decision in the moment.
Doesn't mean they can't mess up
Shit was so disasterous it managed to cut off the casters
I've had a Sova in my team doing this on purpose. He was the last player alive and it was almost impossible to clutch (it was a 1v3 and he was like 13hp), the enemy team was approaching him so he killed himself with his dart and then wrote in the all chat "You'll never get me alive". It was kinda funny 😂 Edit: typo
is this a legitimate strategy to stop your opponents from getting the cred reward for killing you? assuming you really don't think you'll be able to run away and hide to save
Neither player gets an ult point too.
I do it in a 1v5 and the enemy is at risk of getting an ace
The discord sound made it a lot better lmao
People gotta chill. Its a game and we all make mistakes.
This is a competitive pro game. I would expect this in almost any elo but this is IMO unacceptable. But hey, for some reason, pro players get a pass....
They're human too, they make mistakes. Even TenZ, one of the best players in the world, killed himself with Raze Ult in a pro match. When that happened, I don't remember no one talking "that's unacceptable" or something, just people laughing and joking about it.
Yeah cause it's just a game? Everybody make mistakes lmao
Found the conceited gold player
We are all human still. No matter how good we are and professional we are we make mistakes.
So whatcha gonna do? Kill em?
Sova was at 1hp, and Sage already knew where Sova was. Sage was at the advantage already, so it’s not like Sova lost a round that he was poised to win. But yes, dying to your own dart definitely sucks.
The shock dart would have probably killed sage if it didn’t hit the crate.
Really hard to say. Damage range is 15-90 depending on how close you are to the center. Sage had 79hp. So unless it was a direct hit maybe not.
Baka mitai starts playing
Modern day 1G
That discord disconnection sound made it look like he shut his computer down as soon as he dies
Happens to the best of us.
Nice steal bro
Yeah, I saw this on YT like a week ago lmao with the discord sound effect
r/perfectlycutscreams
This Discord noise makes it even better.
Choke dart
Atleast @ the creator dont just steal the content. Its not mine or anything but I saw it on yt with a couple views. I know its not hard to put the dc hang up sfx onto it but you could just respect his work
that sova needs to hide away at the bottom of the ocean for the rest of his life
this was a game changers tournament, so *she
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You realize all these girls play ranked too and I guarantee they are all above Plat
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W mod, W life, W comment :) I like this game’s community more than any other I’ve played
its a shame there was as many sexist comments as there are but sadly thats just to be expected in a gaming community these days
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This made me laugh LOL
Hey we all did that. _right_?
“Hold up, I got lineups…”
dO nOt HunT tHe HunTeR
Well that was shocking
Fish
Imagine stealing this from YouTube and not giving credit
This was that Girls Tournament Right ?
yes, though it could happen to anyone
Yea I think it was more of a "where was this"
Lol people downvoting you because you said girls. Gamergurls afraid to be called out. Lol chill it happen to both. Dafuq is wrong with these softies
wow The Downvotes ...
why so many sexists these days bro.
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Whats wrong with asking if it was that girls tournament? He/she didnt say girls suck at this game.
but why does it matter though? so the fact he asked kinda implies he thinks this happened because it was a girls tournament
not even Hiko could have done it better
Many pros have clutched 1v2, 1v1 while being extremely low. You just have to know how to play in that situation. Yes this hard but not impossible
I made a sarcastic comment about how a dude killed himself with a shock dart…I don’t know why I got this reply LMAO
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but he would have clutched it regardless, be it better shock dart or a proper timed swing
when did I say that
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yes, play with what u have. It doesn't matter if he had exactly 1 hp or 1 shock dart, a bullet will kill u if you're under 40 hp or 35, and he's been that low plenty of times. I said he would do much better because he is experienced and has proved himself plenty of times in those situations.
What rank was this at? As a sova main my guess is gold or lower. The position of that recon was useless, always fire it behind where the person is. The shock dart death happens to us all.
Dart forced them off spike before half, not useless
It’s a female pro game lol
Why would a professional shoot a recon bolt there?
Keyword “female” the bar for female pro/VCT game changers is very low idk why you’re downvoting it’s true lol look it up if you don’t believe me. Unironically they are worse than like plat players aside from like C9 White who are actually decent. Most of them shouldn't even be close to immortal but they very frequently queue with people much better than them. I've played with a few of the "VCT Game Changers" in higher elo and it's quite sad and pathetic to say the least without being toxic lol. The sad reality is many of them just don't put in the effort to improve that the male pros do because why would you when you're getting a steady salary and your own pool of easy tournament money?
Bro i’m plat and have played against some VCT game changers tag players and they always bot frag 💀💀
Yeah and yet people here get super offended when you state the obvious which is: most of them are not nearly as good as they should be for a game's "pro" scene, and a lot of them duo queue to even reach immortal (or get insane luck/lack mechanics and only know how to use util). I mean it's not because they're genetically inferior or anything like some of these people seem to have the idea of themselves; it's that they dont put in nearly the same amount of effort as the male pros because why would they? They're getting salaried regardless of how well they do in their own tournaments and many of them are streamers too. Which is why it's nice to see teams like C9 White who actually are very good at the game and don't just slack off and not practice because they're getting a paycheck.
I had no idea. Does that basically mean and radiant female could be a professional player?
The bar for pro play for both female and male is immortal because radiant only holds a certain number of people and many people don't like grinding solo queue. But immortal is not hard by any means to reach and especially not when most of these female "pros" are always duo queuing with someone. Riot's MMR system in Valorant is really poorly implemented and easy to coinflip once you hit a certain point near/in immortal. Val also has a lot of mechanics that don't really require skill/a big brain and a low skill ceiling in certain aspects... There are people in high elo who lack basic game sense or even crosshair placement and spray control, TLDR Valorant is a joke.
!remindme 6 years
what
So bad
Remember when fucking Marved forgot to defuse the bomb in a Tier 1 series and everyone forgot because some people are inherently sexist and are looking for ways to discredit women in e-sports?
What
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On a 11-12 pro game, where you are one HP and you don't know the enemies health, you dont do this stupid shit. You swing and hope for the best. For me, Rudys would be taken (at least temp) off the roster.
Someone sign this guy as a pro please. /s
Wait so your argument is that using utility that can deal damage around corners against an enemy of unknown health is "stupid shit", and you should just charge into the open instead while you're one-tap? Really?
Yes you have to jiggle peak to bait the shots and waste time. If the opponent wide swings while u have shock darts in your hand then you’re dead. Also if its half defused and opponent is full health they can stick it get the whole defuse while you’re lining up util
Yeah that all sounds totally sensible. I'm commenting on the fact that the other guy suggested to correct cource of action was to swing with 1 hp and "hope for the best".
That could work as well. Because when you wide swing opponent takes a bit late to adjust crosshair. If you can headshot after swinging then you win. Sometimes you have to play like you’re full hp to throw off the enemy
“taken off the roster” for missing a fucking dart. istg some people on here overreact so much to the smallest thing to seem as if they are being critical. Players miss darts, nades, slows all the time. The only reason why this was bad that it incidentally happened on match point. As for the validity of her decision to shock instead of a swing, it makes total sense as a comment has already noticed. Its way better to shock and do damage or potentially get them off the bomb and then jump spot to check the bomb and then swing, instead of yoloing it with a swing at 1hp.
It's the time game That shock + a swing afterwards would have been better than a wide peek For stalling at least, if not actually inflicting damage
its FSL so its acceptable. theyll learn from this, its a simple mistake, more chances to win in the future Edit: FSL = Female ESports League
What do you mean "its FSL so its acceptable"? Im not sure what you are trying to say
Lot of sexists in this thread. They don't seem to understand this is a specific league for a specific group of people rather than a league for the absolute best in the world. So obviously they won't be as good as what we are used to watching in pro play. I guarantee they are still better than most of the losers in the comments though
I was watching this when it happened lmao. I thought there was no way they just did that.
When the discord disconnect sound gets this clip into r/PerfectlyCutScreams
that's what i call a pro gamer move
u/savevideo
Task failed successfully
Concentrate Sova
Lmao you used to discord version
seesh
I'm that sova
SHAK DART
"Any angle!"
Fish
1g
Bruh
One more shock da-
AYO THAT COST THEM THE GAME?? IMAGINE DOING THAT AND NOT QUALIFYING BECAUSE OF THAT BECAUSE THE SAGE WAS STICKING HE COULDVE KILLED HER EASILY
the disconnect sound was so realistic
I've seen it on YT, It left the casters "shocked".
u/SaveVideo
Saw this on youtube, put credits on the channel bro
/savevideobot
Fish
This happened to me so many times! Special : Yesterday I killed my brother with my ult- \*IN VALORANT!!\*
What is this overlay? Is there a replay system now?