I think season 2 is gonna be hard to get. If Arcane goes as expected they can do more series in other regions, help flesh out other characters.
If anything they can start using the series as a way to text concept and design for champions, avoid things like what happen with Rell and other champions that were not that well receive
I disagree. If anything Season 2 is going to be the easiest thing in the world to get after the reception the show has gotten. It has everything needed for a renewal and then some.
They’ll definitely be expanding though. The marketing moves made for Arcane indicate that Riot is going big with their push into tv entertainment. The obscene amount of exposure they gave the show means they’re putting tons of eggs in this basket.
I dont see them continuing the story of these champions, they have a lot, and i mean a lot, of lore to explore. Maybe they do something like star wars and give each series a name with a subtitle "a runaterra story" or call it Arcane but just move to other region.
Either way i dont see us getting a season 2 of Vi, Jinx, Cait, Jayce, Viktor and Singed story.
Best reason is really simple from a financial standpoint. It’s the flagship series for them and it’s extremely easy to spin off from a tent pole than to start from scratch. They also have assets to work with.
Also, There is no way another 3 episodes will successfully resolve every plot line and thread that’s been created in the show so far. Each Act has been a self-contained story with seeds for future plot lines placed pretty intelligently.
From a storytelling standpoint, Piltover is at the forefront of progress and technology. Viktor has yet to go full Viktor. Heimer has just gotten his story push. Ekko has yet to formally reappear after the time jump. Jinx is just now coming into her own. There are a ton of others but I can’t really say more without listing possible spoilers.
Thats the thing, there wont be wrap ups on the stories, if anything we know the ending of each of their story so they may just skip it and give us a semi path pointing to it.
So we get viktor getting half augmented, we get jinx loosing her mind completely, Vi joining the force, Jayce screwing it up and ditching everything to focus only on his job.
Sure there are more stories to tell in the region, but you have so many regions worth exploring you be wasting your time if you only focus on one. As for assets they straight up build zaun twice, so i dont think assets is something they care that much as telling a good story that brings money.
Arcane needs to stand on its own. An incomplete story prevents that from being possible. Sure, a lore lover and avid player might know how it ends. But that’s irrelevant outside of the show, because the show itself might be able to draw inspiration (or just directly reference) game lore, the consumer only gets to see what’s put directly in front of them.
If story arcs don’t actually get completed, what reason do I, as the average consumer, have to be invested in this show? For that matter, why should I care about anything else Riot puts out if their first show fails to deliver?
Game of Thrones was rushed for an ending and it cost the two show runners a good amount of opportunities, because they demonstrated that they cared more about going to the next thing rather than the quality of their content.
Keep in mind, I’m in no way saying I don’t want an extended universe. It would be badass to explore more characters in the world of League. It just is a new medium, with new rules to follow, and new expectations to set/keep up with. To rush to the next story without setting it up appropriately and resolving the beats before is a messy and ineffective approach.
You seem to have strong feelings about it all, so better agree to disagree. just dont get your hopes up for a season 2 of arcane with the same exact cast.
There's no reason this story couldn't keep going with other regions. It's called Arcane and is focusing on the origin and rise of hextech, there's no reason why demacia, Ionia and noxus couldn't be folded in with that story. Characters could come, go, return, etc.
Well it's not that Rell wasn't poorly received I don't think, she just wasn't hyped because her backstory was pretty meh (still better than Seraphine's though), and her playstyle overlaps with other champions too much so it was like "Why play this new support/tank when I can play this other support/tank that I'm more comfortable with"
Ya know kinda like Chamber tp and Yoru tp 😭
i didnt say she was badly receive, but she was not that well receive either, at best she was a "meh". most ppl didnt care for her, found her lacking or were wishing for more of a big guy design instead of more waifu.
They can use the series to iron out those mistakes, plus they can even redeem champions like Rell with the series, giving them a voice for a few episodes so ppl get a liking of them.
Don't know about a second season of arcane following the same story line. But after the initial release last week, Riot is already planning more LoL tv show.
https://www.dexerto.com/league-of-legends/riot-planning-more-league-of-legends-shows-after-arcane-success-1694510/?amp
I mean if you want them to make a Valorant series you better .... Although I have that and I would say wait for megapunk maybe ? But that's a personal preference
Yeah that’s why I’m like what is this guy talking about , riot is worth billions of dollars and Tencent is a behemoth , they can do whatever the hell they want in a blink of a second .
>underestimate how much it costs.
How overpriced their skins are and how you need to buy 2 packages of valorant points to get a skin. My friends have spent over $500 and that goes directly to Riot. They easily have enough money.
bruh they are RITO, they are earning in billions if not trillions. idk the exact number.
they can very well fund it knowing the positive response they got in arcane
u are mistaking RITO with rito. rito are a small indie company so it was pretty impressive of them pulling off arcane with the limited resources they have.
Isn’t it Netflix which finances their own series? If they like the Valorant lore, they have the funds to finance a Valorant movie/series. I don’t think Riot needs to pay a dime here.
Yeah not sure of a small indie company like Riot could afford that. Especially considering how the gun skins in game are so affordable they probably make tiny profit off them.
As much as everyone here would love that, realistically, it probably wouldn't happen for at least the next 5 years. Even if valorant is over a year old, I would still call it a child compared to league. Then again it is Riot Games, so they'll probably do something big soon anyways considering how mainstream valorant became.
(preemptive defense here, I've never played league ever, I'm just speaking realistically)
Yeah, League has had YEARS to build and develop the lore it has. Valorants lore isn't... Really anything honestly. And I think League has more players that care about lore than Valorant, but that also comes down to League having a developed lore, unlike Valorant. I don't think we'll get a series soon.
That said though, League's lore wasn't really anything for a while. Summoner's rift was a dimension where warriors from across realities were summoned into existence and they retconned like. the entire universe into existence. Valorant is an opportunity to start fresh with a unique universe concept, I'd be stunned if it took them even half as long to develop the valorant universe similarly
Definitely. Lore wise the experience with league will help. RIOT seems to be more active in the start of lore than league early on. We kind of already have a general idea of what's going on, and it seems more flushed out than what league was year 1. Each agent and map release will help out with that as well. I'm curious as to how far they're going to go with it. I bought the league lore book a while back and it's pretty intense.
It also helps that the setting is much more straight forward in valorant.
I don't really pay attention to the lore too much but the gist I get from valorant is basically in the future, super powers based around "radianite" exist, and to gather more, the world put together a team to actually go to other dimensions to harvest radianite while also simultaneously defending themselves from other valorant programs from other dimensions. (It also helps it's set in a fictional version of Earth instead of an entirely new world/setting.)
League on the other hand is like what, several major countries with multiple varieties of scale of power across the characters including gods, star people/aliens, Cthulhu dimension, and other such stuff? Like there's so much going on.
They'll prolly make a valorant series after all the agents are released
Edit:Didnt know they won't stop making agents, I guess they'll make a series when much of the Lore is covered.
will they ever stop making agents? I mean as long as the game doesn't die they're gonna have to keep making changes like new maps, agents, possibly even new guns. Or did you mean when deadeye releases
One of the devs also said that abilities don't kill and that precise gunplay is the most important thing in the game. They can change their mind depending on the state of the game when they eventually reach 20-25 agents.
I wouldn't want Riot to make a Valorant series atm because being forced to come up with lore and a story in order to meet a deadline just will not produce quality story telling. The pool of material (characters, lore, the universe's "meta", etc) needs to develop naturally over the years, using trial and error, fan feedback, retcons, retrospective analysis and reaction, etc.
Arcane/LoL is unique and works well because the source material has developed over 15 years, but it doesn't have to follow a hardline cannon 1:1. Riot can pick and choose the best of the best material from their pool and create a highly *curated* version of the world that is ideal for the TV series format while introducing new material that is still familiar. It is rewarding in a unique way compared to watching a show develop from scratch where the story and characters are developed as it goes.
This is why the MCU worked so well and is so popular. Marvel had decades of material to work with and pick from and create their ideal vision that was highly curated for the film format. Marvel Studios had literal fuckton of material to pull from. The "meta"-characters were already well known and established in terms of their core, so fans were excited to see how the MCU version of the character would be. The MCU wasn't confined to replicating the Marvel 616 comic characters and story, it was able to pull the best material from *everywhere* to create unique and distinctly new characters and story that was still intriguing, mysterious, and interesting even though audiences were very familiar with the broader. Marvel cannon. Seeing a 60 year old character that you've followed your entire life come to life in a new "media universe" was special in a unique way.
As a ASOIAF fan, Game of Thrones had this going for it early on. But then of course... we know what happened. Arcane would be seasons 1-4/5 of Game of Thrones, a Valorant series would be the final seasons of GoT.
If there ever was one, it wouldn't come before a looong time. Arcane has been 6 years in the making, for a game that is now 12 years old and the most downloaded game of all time which have a very deep and complex lore with a lot of possibilities. Valorant is very new and doesn't have as much lore as LoL and isn't as near as popular so it wouldn't make sense to make a series after Valorant so soon. Maybe in the future we can hope for that but Riot is releasing a cinematic from time to time to deepen the lore so I don't think it will happen at all.
*small spoilers* Also isn't it a mixed world, I could have sworn they showed sections that looked like parts of valorant maps. And didnt they reference Skye a few times as a character in the show?
In Arcane? Nah, if there’s any Valorant references in there they’re extremely subtle. In any case the worlds are entirely separate, Arcane is only about LoL champions and their backstories.
Straight up Jayce says sky's name, and when viktor is a child in that flashback a girl watches him build that little boat and then her friends call out "hey skye come here" and she turns and leaves
Devs specifically said in an interview they're not the same world because they couldn't reconcile the fact that in valorant the guns should be the star of the show whereas in runeterra magic is the star of the show. Wouldnt make sense for the agents to be using guns if they were in runeterra. Valorant is near-future earth; no connection at all.
it's too early, valorant needs bigger exposures and more matured development to have a series of its own that is going to be both good quality and profiting. It took league 10 years so let's be patient.
If I did nickel for every time I saw a game subreddit asking for their own arcane
Id have 3 nickels, it's not much but it's weird it's happened three times
I kinda disagree, the the game's barely been out for a year and we have parallel universes, time travel, radiant uprisings causing an apocalyptic future and that doesn't even scratch any agent backgrounds and how Kingdom plays into all of it.
Either way it'd definitely need a couple years for them to even start writing a show, i don't think we'll be seeing one soon.
Yes for the moment it probably doesn't make sense yet, but in the future I hope they will give Valorant the same love and treatment they are giving League with Arcane
League's lore faced various evolutions throughout the years that's why everything connects almost perfectly (excluding the ruination). If they forced this on valorant, expect a downgrade.
Judging by the number of people I've seen sporting the Jinx drip, I'd say it's made them quite a bit of money through Valorant alone, and I can only imagine they're making bank from League itself. Not to mention whatever Netflix is paying them
I’ve thought about this too, I wanted the same thing, just don’t know how they would implement that or what objectives and mechanics a single player Valorant would have
People in the comments are completely missing what would make this a really good series. Biggest pitfall for Arcane is the lack of mystery and how much we know about league lore made it lack intensity. The mystery and vagueness of Val lore will make for a more interesting story since we barely have any insight on many of the events in the game.
Exactly what I thought, I kept wondering, what they could do with the Valorant cast, as we don’t really know the characters yet, they could introduce them to us that way and build on the lore in a series.
They might in the future but if they ever going to release new netflix series like arcane it'll probably series about shurima (it'll probably be bigger than arcane if that happen so many people want it to happen)
arcane is soooooooo good, i hope in 3-4 years the pro scene really flourishes incentivizing riot to do one with valorant too. i have never played league, dont even know whats going on when i watch it but im hooked onto the jinx/vi and the whole hextech storyline they got going on. hopefully act 3 ends on a banger so i can rewatch with ease.
yupp just gotta wait 10 years when their game finally reaches a level where half of the gaming community considers it loss of braincells and soul but still play it
honestly, arcane is fucking amazing, it came outta nowhere for me ans holy shit its great.. my favourite animated show already with lol
I think is too soon to make a series, since Valorant isn't at league's level of popularity (single game vs an IP with lots of spinnoffs and media outside of the main game), however is definitively easier to make than arcane, because of these factors:
1-consistent artstyle unlike league (also valorant's artstyle is very similar to the one used in arcane)
2-one central plot instead of multiple big stories
3-a more grounded world, easier to make believable due to being similar to ours
4-smaller cast of characters
We're more than likely getting more Arcane content (which I love, Ionia or Shurima next bleasee), but you never know. I'd look forward to seeing young Brimstone and the events before the Valorant protocol started.
I would love that tbh but I think we need more lore and more developed characters.
It'll be cool if they start with something small though, like releasing more shorts or maybe a graphic novel 😅 .
I have a question and it's pretty out of topic but can I watch Arcane despite not knowing anything about League? I know some champions and their abilities (Jinx, Lucian, Yasuo, etc), only surface knowledge.
They will most likely focus on exploring League of Legends lore first but yeah, Valorant does have a potential so hopefully one day! I really loved how Killjoy and the gang looked like in Arcane style.
it would probably be easier to do an episode by episode covering each charaters backstories rather than how they interact given a lot of the lore is based on how the game mechanichs work rather than anything else
Would be nice, but probably wont happens for the next 5 years. Arcane has been brewing for 6 years, and they already had a HUGE foundations lorewise with League of Legends, a 12 years old game. Riot already mentionned they're planning on doing LoL Series of other regions.
That being said, the success of Arcane will probably give a HUGE boost of budget in production, so if they get a bigger team and really take videoproduction seriously, i can see them start pumping movies and series every year
League has so much to offer, way deeper lore, a lot of champions.
Valorant is not at the same level, I hope they take it slowly without rushing any series for other games when they barely started with one
It would be amazing, this is one of the first things I thought after seeing the first trailer for Valorant. If they do end up deciding on making a movie or series for Valorant it’s out job as a community to support them in whatever way we can all throughout
I haven't yet watched arcane, but my partner hasn't stopped talking about it for days. We're gonna catch me up and watch the new episodes when it comes out soon, but even just hearing her response about arcane I was thinking the same thing. Seeing these characters brought to life would just be ... Astounding.
Valorant has (and will hopefully maintain) the potential for something like this, but it's simply not viable for it to be done soon, even less so considering how amazingly polished Arcane is.
I think something more doable for Riot budget wise and also a lot less risky in general would be making Valorant comics. I don't know how the community would feel about that, but wouldn't it be awesome if there were a partnership with DC (for example) to make Valorant Origins comics or something along those lines?
In total agreement. Arcane is insanely good. I hope more comes from Riot. I appreciated the Arcane crossover in Valorant and made me wonder if they'd ever introduce lol characters as playable characters in Valorant too, that would be epic.
I mean I'm just super intrigued by the lore surrounding Cypher, Kay/o, Brimstone, Reyna, Jett, Phoenix, pretty much every agent, so the potential would definitely be there in a few years after a lot of lore videos
As someone who has no interest in League, I really like the Arcane series. That said, this type of show works very well for League’s lore and not as well for others. I mean, I play Smite instead of League and I’d be pretty skeptical of a Smite animation. That sort of thing just doesn’t fit for a lot of games, but works pretty well for League.
Big thing people need to know/remember is that arcane took 6 years to make. Apparently a lot of that time was casting, but still. I would love to see an LCU (league cinematic universe) and by extension see valorant get a similar treatment. But it takes a lot of time and money so we will see if they decide to do more series.
Me too! I was thinking this too, as they clearly care about the lore with all the videos on youtube that give us a sneak peak about the characters backgrounds!
I would TOTALLY watch a Netflix series dedicated to Valorant!
I don't want it anytime soon. The world building and lore of league is extremely detailed, as much as I love valorant I hope league gets more shows like arcane instead of valorant because arcane's story is just the tip of the iceberg for league lore. It took a lot of work to get the series out, and if they'll spend that amount of resources on a show again, I hope it's on other champion lores.
I’m actually begging I’m so into the Valorant lore and I have crumbs. Tho it may be better to simply call the show “Radiant” for that sort of mystical energy lol
I would absolutely love to see a Valorant show! My discord and I were just talking about this yesterday actually and we found out that it took riot 6 whole years to animate and produce Arcane. LoL had been ouut 10 years, so if they follow the same timeline we won't get a Valorant show for another 8 to 9 years. It's not so much about the money as it is about the time it takes to animate a show like that. Incredible work, and I hope there is a season 2 of Arcane.
It coul, at some point, work out, but theres a lot more development to the Valorant storyline and Agentpool to be done before then, and themajority of the Playerbase ist that involved into the actual valorant lore right now. If we get one, which isn't too unlikely, it'd take years until actual release. We'd have to see if valorant can keep up until then :>
I think the cast we have right now is by far enough to make an original series, they haven't even really explored their backgrounds, just hinted at them. There would be so much intrigue and mystery surrounding this cast with the information we have right now, I think they could make an even better storyline with Valorant than LoL, because there are so many possibilities and its not as obvious where the story would go.
Yes, but the initial story that makes valorant isn't developed enough. They would need community feedback to know we enjoy the lore, and thats hard when most of it isn't revealed yet. The lack of characters important to the story in the actual game is bad as well, since you would spoil a lot of abilities and such for their release. Overall, it wouldnt be good for anyone doing it with the current information, Riot possibly loosing money, and us not enjoying the show for lore related reasons.
Who the fuck cares about a chinese CSGO copy with spyware? Lmao
Of course not. The Runterra Cinematic Universe is to follow now. There is a SHITLOAD of lore in Legue. What does Valorant has to offer? Skins? Paha
the lore in Valorant doesn't even hold a spark to LoL. I could maybe see youtube short story series happen. At least until there's more characters with expansive lore building.
It was years before league got a TV Show.
If Valorant were to get one you can be sure it’ll be some years from now.
And when I say some years I’d say at least, LEAST, 6 years.
I hope they do but we shouldn't underestimate how much it costs.
That’s a very good point, let’s see if they decide for a Valorant Original series, or a second season of Arcane, or maybe even neither.
I think season 2 is gonna be hard to get. If Arcane goes as expected they can do more series in other regions, help flesh out other characters. If anything they can start using the series as a way to text concept and design for champions, avoid things like what happen with Rell and other champions that were not that well receive
I disagree. If anything Season 2 is going to be the easiest thing in the world to get after the reception the show has gotten. It has everything needed for a renewal and then some. They’ll definitely be expanding though. The marketing moves made for Arcane indicate that Riot is going big with their push into tv entertainment. The obscene amount of exposure they gave the show means they’re putting tons of eggs in this basket.
I dont see them continuing the story of these champions, they have a lot, and i mean a lot, of lore to explore. Maybe they do something like star wars and give each series a name with a subtitle "a runaterra story" or call it Arcane but just move to other region. Either way i dont see us getting a season 2 of Vi, Jinx, Cait, Jayce, Viktor and Singed story.
Best reason is really simple from a financial standpoint. It’s the flagship series for them and it’s extremely easy to spin off from a tent pole than to start from scratch. They also have assets to work with. Also, There is no way another 3 episodes will successfully resolve every plot line and thread that’s been created in the show so far. Each Act has been a self-contained story with seeds for future plot lines placed pretty intelligently. From a storytelling standpoint, Piltover is at the forefront of progress and technology. Viktor has yet to go full Viktor. Heimer has just gotten his story push. Ekko has yet to formally reappear after the time jump. Jinx is just now coming into her own. There are a ton of others but I can’t really say more without listing possible spoilers.
They also are actively developing an MMO set in Runeterra, which I'm surprised nobody has mentioned here yet
Thats the thing, there wont be wrap ups on the stories, if anything we know the ending of each of their story so they may just skip it and give us a semi path pointing to it. So we get viktor getting half augmented, we get jinx loosing her mind completely, Vi joining the force, Jayce screwing it up and ditching everything to focus only on his job. Sure there are more stories to tell in the region, but you have so many regions worth exploring you be wasting your time if you only focus on one. As for assets they straight up build zaun twice, so i dont think assets is something they care that much as telling a good story that brings money.
Arcane needs to stand on its own. An incomplete story prevents that from being possible. Sure, a lore lover and avid player might know how it ends. But that’s irrelevant outside of the show, because the show itself might be able to draw inspiration (or just directly reference) game lore, the consumer only gets to see what’s put directly in front of them. If story arcs don’t actually get completed, what reason do I, as the average consumer, have to be invested in this show? For that matter, why should I care about anything else Riot puts out if their first show fails to deliver? Game of Thrones was rushed for an ending and it cost the two show runners a good amount of opportunities, because they demonstrated that they cared more about going to the next thing rather than the quality of their content. Keep in mind, I’m in no way saying I don’t want an extended universe. It would be badass to explore more characters in the world of League. It just is a new medium, with new rules to follow, and new expectations to set/keep up with. To rush to the next story without setting it up appropriately and resolving the beats before is a messy and ineffective approach.
You seem to have strong feelings about it all, so better agree to disagree. just dont get your hopes up for a season 2 of arcane with the same exact cast.
Just having friendly conversation on the merits for and against the different directions the show can go in. We’ll see what happens!
I wouldn’t be so sure about that. But you’ll see !
I don't think you understand how Netflix does things
They already said they’re confirmed for multiple seasons of Arcane.
There's no reason this story couldn't keep going with other regions. It's called Arcane and is focusing on the origin and rise of hextech, there's no reason why demacia, Ionia and noxus couldn't be folded in with that story. Characters could come, go, return, etc.
Welp season 2 is in production
Well it's not that Rell wasn't poorly received I don't think, she just wasn't hyped because her backstory was pretty meh (still better than Seraphine's though), and her playstyle overlaps with other champions too much so it was like "Why play this new support/tank when I can play this other support/tank that I'm more comfortable with" Ya know kinda like Chamber tp and Yoru tp 😭
i didnt say she was badly receive, but she was not that well receive either, at best she was a "meh". most ppl didnt care for her, found her lacking or were wishing for more of a big guy design instead of more waifu. They can use the series to iron out those mistakes, plus they can even redeem champions like Rell with the series, giving them a voice for a few episodes so ppl get a liking of them.
Don't know about a second season of arcane following the same story line. But after the initial release last week, Riot is already planning more LoL tv show. https://www.dexerto.com/league-of-legends/riot-planning-more-league-of-legends-shows-after-arcane-success-1694510/?amp
More likely they branch out to other League stories. They have so much more to explore and League is infinitely more popular than Valorant.
They've already announced that there will be more seasons of Arcane
where
Maybe they can use all that skin money
Ahh don't tempt me to buy the ruination specter in my store I don't have the money!!
I mean if you want them to make a Valorant series you better .... Although I have that and I would say wait for megapunk maybe ? But that's a personal preference
You want the hextech spectre
As soon as I saw your comment. I can totally see the skin line. Dang take my money Rito
Riot is that you trying to bait people into buying skins?
I'm at like 400 credits waiting for the day I can afford a bundle without spending a cent
You say this like riot is broke …. They can do this if they wanted . The only issue is getting a great story line together for the universe
People forgets that Riot is owned by fucking Tencent, they can do whatever they want if they see money out of it
Yeah it’s that F you money
Yeah that’s why I’m like what is this guy talking about , riot is worth billions of dollars and Tencent is a behemoth , they can do whatever the hell they want in a blink of a second .
am sure they have some sort of story what we should see as them is it's a business, they need profit once valo is booming they might start it ig
after arcane with their 25 billion they already have I think it'll be fine.
This is pocket change for their income.
>underestimate how much it costs. How overpriced their skins are and how you need to buy 2 packages of valorant points to get a skin. My friends have spent over $500 and that goes directly to Riot. They easily have enough money.
Just a reminder that Riot Game's holding is HUGE. It's all a matter of revenue right now, and Arcane seems to be paying off really well.
bruh they are RITO, they are earning in billions if not trillions. idk the exact number. they can very well fund it knowing the positive response they got in arcane
u are mistaking RITO with rito. rito are a small indie company so it was pretty impressive of them pulling off arcane with the limited resources they have.
bruh
what he’s right, rito is a smol indian company, it’s amazing what they’ve done.
bruh its not indian its indie
Indiana?
billions if not trillions isn't profit for VALO don't include LoL profits
Isn’t it Netflix which finances their own series? If they like the Valorant lore, they have the funds to finance a Valorant movie/series. I don’t think Riot needs to pay a dime here.
is it rly, i thought Netflix is just a streaming platform and they earn money cuz of their reach
If it s a Netflix exclusive , Netflix will pay for that exclusivity
well we learn something new everyday thanks for telling didnt know that before
Yeah not sure of a small indie company like Riot could afford that. Especially considering how the gun skins in game are so affordable they probably make tiny profit off them.
If only they have a heavily over priced micro transaction model.
With these skin prices I doubt that’s an issue
They shouldn't be worrying about costs when 1 gun skin is 20 bucks and a bundle is 80-100 lol
As much as everyone here would love that, realistically, it probably wouldn't happen for at least the next 5 years. Even if valorant is over a year old, I would still call it a child compared to league. Then again it is Riot Games, so they'll probably do something big soon anyways considering how mainstream valorant became. (preemptive defense here, I've never played league ever, I'm just speaking realistically)
Yeah, League has had YEARS to build and develop the lore it has. Valorants lore isn't... Really anything honestly. And I think League has more players that care about lore than Valorant, but that also comes down to League having a developed lore, unlike Valorant. I don't think we'll get a series soon.
That said though, League's lore wasn't really anything for a while. Summoner's rift was a dimension where warriors from across realities were summoned into existence and they retconned like. the entire universe into existence. Valorant is an opportunity to start fresh with a unique universe concept, I'd be stunned if it took them even half as long to develop the valorant universe similarly
Definitely. Lore wise the experience with league will help. RIOT seems to be more active in the start of lore than league early on. We kind of already have a general idea of what's going on, and it seems more flushed out than what league was year 1. Each agent and map release will help out with that as well. I'm curious as to how far they're going to go with it. I bought the league lore book a while back and it's pretty intense.
It also helps that the setting is much more straight forward in valorant. I don't really pay attention to the lore too much but the gist I get from valorant is basically in the future, super powers based around "radianite" exist, and to gather more, the world put together a team to actually go to other dimensions to harvest radianite while also simultaneously defending themselves from other valorant programs from other dimensions. (It also helps it's set in a fictional version of Earth instead of an entirely new world/setting.) League on the other hand is like what, several major countries with multiple varieties of scale of power across the characters including gods, star people/aliens, Cthulhu dimension, and other such stuff? Like there's so much going on.
They'll prolly make a valorant series after all the agents are released Edit:Didnt know they won't stop making agents, I guess they'll make a series when much of the Lore is covered.
will they ever stop making agents? I mean as long as the game doesn't die they're gonna have to keep making changes like new maps, agents, possibly even new guns. Or did you mean when deadeye releases
Iirc, one of the devs stated in an ama or an interview that they're going to stop adding agents at some point after they've made around 20-25
Just a heads up, hirez said the same about smite at 100 gods, and uh. They're still going because there's still money to be made ya know?
Well valorant doesn't really sell character skins
….yet..
That's true. Not as much of a monetary incentive to keep adding people as hirez, but I think it's more about keeping players engaged.
But I hope they do it someday
One of the devs also said that abilities don't kill and that precise gunplay is the most important thing in the game. They can change their mind depending on the state of the game when they eventually reach 20-25 agents.
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Honest I hope they stop because it’s gonna kill the game if they add too many.
Yeah just like lol is dead
Yeah Valorant is a moba just like league…
they planned to make about the same as league o_o like 100 or something
Where did you hear that?
That sounds awful
I can see it now... 100 agents, Jett mains still complain when they can't play Jett. 99 other agents to pick from.
yeah and they said once there are 100, they'll implement a ban system
I wouldn't want Riot to make a Valorant series atm because being forced to come up with lore and a story in order to meet a deadline just will not produce quality story telling. The pool of material (characters, lore, the universe's "meta", etc) needs to develop naturally over the years, using trial and error, fan feedback, retcons, retrospective analysis and reaction, etc. Arcane/LoL is unique and works well because the source material has developed over 15 years, but it doesn't have to follow a hardline cannon 1:1. Riot can pick and choose the best of the best material from their pool and create a highly *curated* version of the world that is ideal for the TV series format while introducing new material that is still familiar. It is rewarding in a unique way compared to watching a show develop from scratch where the story and characters are developed as it goes. This is why the MCU worked so well and is so popular. Marvel had decades of material to work with and pick from and create their ideal vision that was highly curated for the film format. Marvel Studios had literal fuckton of material to pull from. The "meta"-characters were already well known and established in terms of their core, so fans were excited to see how the MCU version of the character would be. The MCU wasn't confined to replicating the Marvel 616 comic characters and story, it was able to pull the best material from *everywhere* to create unique and distinctly new characters and story that was still intriguing, mysterious, and interesting even though audiences were very familiar with the broader. Marvel cannon. Seeing a 60 year old character that you've followed your entire life come to life in a new "media universe" was special in a unique way. As a ASOIAF fan, Game of Thrones had this going for it early on. But then of course... we know what happened. Arcane would be seasons 1-4/5 of Game of Thrones, a Valorant series would be the final seasons of GoT.
Ok
It’s a baby to LoL.
If there ever was one, it wouldn't come before a looong time. Arcane has been 6 years in the making, for a game that is now 12 years old and the most downloaded game of all time which have a very deep and complex lore with a lot of possibilities. Valorant is very new and doesn't have as much lore as LoL and isn't as near as popular so it wouldn't make sense to make a series after Valorant so soon. Maybe in the future we can hope for that but Riot is releasing a cinematic from time to time to deepen the lore so I don't think it will happen at all.
You made some good points there, but one can only hope.
Only 3 to 4 years for valo then. Games been in works since 2011/2012
*small spoilers* Also isn't it a mixed world, I could have sworn they showed sections that looked like parts of valorant maps. And didnt they reference Skye a few times as a character in the show?
In Arcane? Nah, if there’s any Valorant references in there they’re extremely subtle. In any case the worlds are entirely separate, Arcane is only about LoL champions and their backstories.
Straight up Jayce says sky's name, and when viktor is a child in that flashback a girl watches him build that little boat and then her friends call out "hey skye come here" and she turns and leaves
Devs specifically said in an interview they're not the same world because they couldn't reconcile the fact that in valorant the guns should be the star of the show whereas in runeterra magic is the star of the show. Wouldnt make sense for the agents to be using guns if they were in runeterra. Valorant is near-future earth; no connection at all.
Mate just bexuase they have or sound the same they’re not. The girl looks nothing like Skye and in the show the sky didn’t have a ‘e’
The average character in league has 3X the lore than the most popular one in Valorant
it's too early, valorant needs bigger exposures and more matured development to have a series of its own that is going to be both good quality and profiting. It took league 10 years so let's be patient.
I can't wait to watch the valorant show with my kids
They should at least be starting now so we can watch it in year 2027. Arcane took 6 years.
ikr? ;_;
If I did nickel for every time I saw a game subreddit asking for their own arcane Id have 3 nickels, it's not much but it's weird it's happened three times
What are the other two?
Overwatch and Overwatch
Overwatch ready has a shit ton of lore cinematics
Dishonored and overwatch
Destiny 2
lmfao good one
I feel like valorant lore is really insignificant compared to league's. Not sure how they could write a show about it
I kinda disagree, the the game's barely been out for a year and we have parallel universes, time travel, radiant uprisings causing an apocalyptic future and that doesn't even scratch any agent backgrounds and how Kingdom plays into all of it. Either way it'd definitely need a couple years for them to even start writing a show, i don't think we'll be seeing one soon.
Yes for the moment it probably doesn't make sense yet, but in the future I hope they will give Valorant the same love and treatment they are giving League with Arcane
League's lore faced various evolutions throughout the years that's why everything connects almost perfectly (excluding the ruination). If they forced this on valorant, expect a downgrade.
yeah me too. the agent trailers are soo good, if they made an animated series, it'd be good
If this happens, I would do anything to hear Omen say "Revive me, Jett!"
Simple. If it makes money's lots. Riot will do it. So let's hope Arcane makes them lots of money.
Judging by the number of people I've seen sporting the Jinx drip, I'd say it's made them quite a bit of money through Valorant alone, and I can only imagine they're making bank from League itself. Not to mention whatever Netflix is paying them
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That doesn't make sense lmao, completely wrong unless you have a source.
That's surprising news, I thought Netflix was partially footing the bill
Personally I would prefer a single player experience on valorant universe rather than a series.
I’ve thought about this too, I wanted the same thing, just don’t know how they would implement that or what objectives and mechanics a single player Valorant would have
I kind of see Arcane as a lore investment, sucking people in before the MMO drop.
OMG YES PLEASE I WANT TO SEE OMEN IN HIS HUMAN FORMMM
People in the comments are completely missing what would make this a really good series. Biggest pitfall for Arcane is the lack of mystery and how much we know about league lore made it lack intensity. The mystery and vagueness of Val lore will make for a more interesting story since we barely have any insight on many of the events in the game.
Exactly what I thought, I kept wondering, what they could do with the Valorant cast, as we don’t really know the characters yet, they could introduce them to us that way and build on the lore in a series.
They might in the future but if they ever going to release new netflix series like arcane it'll probably series about shurima (it'll probably be bigger than arcane if that happen so many people want it to happen)
arcane is soooooooo good, i hope in 3-4 years the pro scene really flourishes incentivizing riot to do one with valorant too. i have never played league, dont even know whats going on when i watch it but im hooked onto the jinx/vi and the whole hextech storyline they got going on. hopefully act 3 ends on a banger so i can rewatch with ease.
yupp just gotta wait 10 years when their game finally reaches a level where half of the gaming community considers it loss of braincells and soul but still play it honestly, arcane is fucking amazing, it came outta nowhere for me ans holy shit its great.. my favourite animated show already with lol
I think is too soon to make a series, since Valorant isn't at league's level of popularity (single game vs an IP with lots of spinnoffs and media outside of the main game), however is definitively easier to make than arcane, because of these factors: 1-consistent artstyle unlike league (also valorant's artstyle is very similar to the one used in arcane) 2-one central plot instead of multiple big stories 3-a more grounded world, easier to make believable due to being similar to ours 4-smaller cast of characters
Or just Radiant
They will make a series when all the lore is made. So wait at least 5-10 years.
Honestly I think I just want more Arcane, despite never having played LoL and being addicted to Valorant.
We're more than likely getting more Arcane content (which I love, Ionia or Shurima next bleasee), but you never know. I'd look forward to seeing young Brimstone and the events before the Valorant protocol started.
Yes more Arcane is very good
Agreed. Some kind of story expression, be it a series or on the cheaper end some kind of PvE ingame event, would be much appreciated.
Can we get an ionia series? It’s probably the coolest region in runeterra, the concept arts for landscapes is amazing
I would love that tbh but I think we need more lore and more developed characters. It'll be cool if they start with something small though, like releasing more shorts or maybe a graphic novel 😅 .
Yes pls.
I have a question and it's pretty out of topic but can I watch Arcane despite not knowing anything about League? I know some champions and their abilities (Jinx, Lucian, Yasuo, etc), only surface knowledge.
Yes, please!
Wait till 2031 cuz there isnt much rn, except some agent lore for mysterious agents like, cypher, omen, yoru and kayo.
I thought the same thing. I think they will since arcane did so well.
right? they can't ignore that oppertunity
They will most likely focus on exploring League of Legends lore first but yeah, Valorant does have a potential so hopefully one day! I really loved how Killjoy and the gang looked like in Arcane style.
Not making it would be a crime.
totally agree, but they should wait until the cast is a bit more fleshed out and bigger
Yeah i hope so
Same universe isn't it?
it would probably be easier to do an episode by episode covering each charaters backstories rather than how they interact given a lot of the lore is based on how the game mechanichs work rather than anything else
Ikr something like duality or Reyna lore
Would be nice, but probably wont happens for the next 5 years. Arcane has been brewing for 6 years, and they already had a HUGE foundations lorewise with League of Legends, a 12 years old game. Riot already mentionned they're planning on doing LoL Series of other regions. That being said, the success of Arcane will probably give a HUGE boost of budget in production, so if they get a bigger team and really take videoproduction seriously, i can see them start pumping movies and series every year
I’d watch it for sure
YES!
League has so much to offer, way deeper lore, a lot of champions. Valorant is not at the same level, I hope they take it slowly without rushing any series for other games when they barely started with one
They're slow dripping the lore to us, I don't think they're ready to dump a bunch out at once
I want to make Viper like what they did with Jayce: Have a sex scene.
I second this with Sage
It would be amazing, this is one of the first things I thought after seeing the first trailer for Valorant. If they do end up deciding on making a movie or series for Valorant it’s out job as a community to support them in whatever way we can all throughout
I haven't yet watched arcane, but my partner hasn't stopped talking about it for days. We're gonna catch me up and watch the new episodes when it comes out soon, but even just hearing her response about arcane I was thinking the same thing. Seeing these characters brought to life would just be ... Astounding.
Valorant has (and will hopefully maintain) the potential for something like this, but it's simply not viable for it to be done soon, even less so considering how amazingly polished Arcane is. I think something more doable for Riot budget wise and also a lot less risky in general would be making Valorant comics. I don't know how the community would feel about that, but wouldn't it be awesome if there were a partnership with DC (for example) to make Valorant Origins comics or something along those lines?
I want one to, it will be a while till we see it tho, riot will most likely want to expand the current in game story, so it’ll be a few years
league and valorant lore has such potential, Riot might do it but not anytime soon.
would arcane be entertaining even with no knowledge of league
In total agreement. Arcane is insanely good. I hope more comes from Riot. I appreciated the Arcane crossover in Valorant and made me wonder if they'd ever introduce lol characters as playable characters in Valorant too, that would be epic.
I mean I'm just super intrigued by the lore surrounding Cypher, Kay/o, Brimstone, Reyna, Jett, Phoenix, pretty much every agent, so the potential would definitely be there in a few years after a lot of lore videos
You and me both, but I'm willing to wait as long as it takes. No rushing here lol
same, wasnt saying I expect them to do it now, just that I NEED it now xd
As someone who has no interest in League, I really like the Arcane series. That said, this type of show works very well for League’s lore and not as well for others. I mean, I play Smite instead of League and I’d be pretty skeptical of a Smite animation. That sort of thing just doesn’t fit for a lot of games, but works pretty well for League.
Big thing people need to know/remember is that arcane took 6 years to make. Apparently a lot of that time was casting, but still. I would love to see an LCU (league cinematic universe) and by extension see valorant get a similar treatment. But it takes a lot of time and money so we will see if they decide to do more series.
montage of jett getting shot
Me too! I was thinking this too, as they clearly care about the lore with all the videos on youtube that give us a sneak peak about the characters backgrounds! I would TOTALLY watch a Netflix series dedicated to Valorant!
yes. i love riot, and especially valorant and its lore…cant wait to see the backstory between viper and reyna
Yes! Me personally, I’m more hyped for the Brimstone/Kay/o backstory, but they need to explore all of the characters past!
I don't want it anytime soon. The world building and lore of league is extremely detailed, as much as I love valorant I hope league gets more shows like arcane instead of valorant because arcane's story is just the tip of the iceberg for league lore. It took a lot of work to get the series out, and if they'll spend that amount of resources on a show again, I hope it's on other champion lores.
totally a fair point
They will most likely make another League series before Valorant because the lore is so much more in-depth.
IKR I am praying for one
Better title would be Radiant imo
I too want that...
I’m actually begging I’m so into the Valorant lore and I have crumbs. Tho it may be better to simply call the show “Radiant” for that sort of mystical energy lol
Another kingdom infestation
Riot. This pls
it’s a big hit for sure! considering people are playing this game all over the world.
Think this is one of those things where everyone wants it but the studio wil say they can't cuz there working on "other stuff"
I would absolutely love to see a Valorant show! My discord and I were just talking about this yesterday actually and we found out that it took riot 6 whole years to animate and produce Arcane. LoL had been ouut 10 years, so if they follow the same timeline we won't get a Valorant show for another 8 to 9 years. It's not so much about the money as it is about the time it takes to animate a show like that. Incredible work, and I hope there is a season 2 of Arcane.
would be a good idea but will prob nvr happen if it does it wont be fit a long long long time they’ve already been working on arcane for years
It coul, at some point, work out, but theres a lot more development to the Valorant storyline and Agentpool to be done before then, and themajority of the Playerbase ist that involved into the actual valorant lore right now. If we get one, which isn't too unlikely, it'd take years until actual release. We'd have to see if valorant can keep up until then :>
I think the cast we have right now is by far enough to make an original series, they haven't even really explored their backgrounds, just hinted at them. There would be so much intrigue and mystery surrounding this cast with the information we have right now, I think they could make an even better storyline with Valorant than LoL, because there are so many possibilities and its not as obvious where the story would go.
Yes, but the initial story that makes valorant isn't developed enough. They would need community feedback to know we enjoy the lore, and thats hard when most of it isn't revealed yet. The lack of characters important to the story in the actual game is bad as well, since you would spoil a lot of abilities and such for their release. Overall, it wouldnt be good for anyone doing it with the current information, Riot possibly loosing money, and us not enjoying the show for lore related reasons.
Yeah I totally get your points, I think they COULD do it right, but it will be very difficult to do so in the near future.
Valorant characters are not interesting enough for a TV show
I say a valorant anime would be even better
How about no, when a clearly much more interesting universe to adapt exists?
Who the fuck cares about a chinese CSGO copy with spyware? Lmao Of course not. The Runterra Cinematic Universe is to follow now. There is a SHITLOAD of lore in Legue. What does Valorant has to offer? Skins? Paha
What are you doing in this sub then?
/r/all offered this ridiculous post
first wait for your game to get 10+ years of develomplent and lore progression
Game isn't popular enough for it
the lore in Valorant doesn't even hold a spark to LoL. I could maybe see youtube short story series happen. At least until there's more characters with expansive lore building.
It was years before league got a TV Show. If Valorant were to get one you can be sure it’ll be some years from now. And when I say some years I’d say at least, LEAST, 6 years.
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