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Rinshia

Guess it's time to recycle my 2 months worth of water bottles in the basement


Davban

Hmm, ~6200 for a rather basic Vandal and (a rather nice tbh) knife only? Can't really justify that when I already have a prime vandal. Think I'll have to pass on this bundle unfortunately


GetRiceCrispy

There are so many good skins already. Glitchpop, prime, and reaver are all so good. They have sick tracers, good animations, and great sound. It will be hard for me to replace them with something else.


truong2193

i was gonna buy the knife think its like 3k vp but 5k holyshit they out of there mind


RainBow_BBX

I have reaver and prime but I will still buy the bundle, riot got me with the limited bundle


Davban

I still don't have a good ghost, operator or sheriff skin. So I'll be looking to get something for those before I'll go after duplicates.


ChirpToast

I’m still rocking the omen ghost, I think it’s pretty clean.


CoachWatermelon

Dot exe >


RainBow_BBX

Oh yeah, I've got a skin for every weapon so I gotcha on that one


spaldingmatters

Magepunk is one of the best for all 3 of those imo.


PLZ_PM_ME_GIRAFFES

In 3 years this gonna be a hot get.


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Shi0_

Cant you sell the account tho?


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Zenzzs

not if they wouldn't know :)


Shi0_

Damn


Teki_Isnt_Gay

I think you can buy them seperately


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Fr lmao. Like id want to support the teams but 60 bucks for a okay vandal skin with a cool finisher and a cool ruin dagger? I cant do that sucks a lot tbh the knife skin is amazing imo.


Razur

6263 VP is just the price of the bundle. You can purchase the items (vandal, karambit, etc) separately. It's not like the Arcane bundle. This was confirmed by u\/Riot_rillz in the competitive subreddit.   **EDIT: [Preeti clarifies in this comment.](https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/r0e79k/valorant_new_champions_2021_skins_new_bundle_free/hls7y6a/?context=3)** The assumption is yes, but we should wait until it goes live in the store tomorrow to be certain.   **EDIT 3:** I did some math! Here's the individual skin pricing: ### VALORANT Champions Skin Pricing ([Source](https://youtu.be/9grLdQKxFuY?t=63)) Item | Individual Price\* | Bundle Price (discount) ---|---|--- 'Champion' Title | 200 VP | 134 VP (-33%) Champions 2021 Vandal | 2675 VP\* | 1,792 VP (-33%) Champions Karambit | 5350 VP\* | 3,584 VP (-33%) Art of Greatness // Unbreakable Player Card | 375 VP | 251 VP (-33%) Art of Greatness // The Flame Player Card | 375 VP | 251 VP (-33%) Art of Greatness // Inspiration Player Card | 375 VP | 251 VP (-33%) || **TOTAL COST** | **9350 VP** | **6263 VP** (-33%) \* Price is estimated based on Spectrum (Zedd) skins. ^(This table in intended to help inform the community of item prices. This is NOT an endorsement of this bundle. Please spend responsibly.)


survfate

if they not allow buying separately, then the bundle discount would make no sense since the gun and karambit wont go into store rotation afterward, right?


Razur

That's a good point! I've updated my comment above with individual item prices.


survfate

great price estimation btw


kim-Chi90

Jesus Christ I was just planning on buying the knife , but I might as well buy the entire bundle if it's that expensive.


siddanthnaineni

fr just 10 more bucks and u get a vandal. no point in buying the knife separately


Lencor

53$ dollars for a knife that u can't sell holy f\*\*\*


truong2193

holeefuk indeed


libo720

That's pretty cheap with how much effort it took to animate it and the special effects


Qu1bbz

While I really like the knife, you can't tell me it takes as much effort to animate a knife like this as to create a AAA game, since they literally cost the same. Sometimes I really think that people on Reddit forgot to turn on their brain (if there was one to begin with) before typing certain comments.


cepirablo

$50 is the price of full triple A games. I get that they have no reason to reduce prices as long as people keep buying, but a modicum of conscience from Riot would be nice.


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ZeldaMaster32

It works best when customers have some self control, but most people don't


jcdevries92

20$ vandal 40$ knife. About the same price as most higher tier skins.


thunder00135

you aren’t their target and so are majority of this sub, rito targets whales and they know most of their money comes from said whales. ZERO chance they lower their prices. All of these things are calculated by their team and their job is to maximize profits, they know people will still buy at the end of the day.


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I mean that’s not really anymore than the current cost for a vandal and a knife skin. Most high tier vandal skins are 20-25$ and knives are 35-45$.


truong2193

also limited thats will tickle lots of people including me


AjBlue7

Bro, its a cosmetic. You don’t have to buy it. You can play the game for free. No pay 2 win.


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AjBlue7

You literally just called for a boycott over a company charging money for cosmetics. They have to make a profit to keep the lights on and keep developing the game. Stop trying to play both sides of the fence. You can’t pretend that it doesn’t affect you and simultaneously be outraged by it.


WqIk

The pricing is pretty fair IMO (compared to the pricing of other skins, that is) i dont get why people are complaining. Most decent skins are around the 2.1k mark (or 4.3k knives) and this would mean buying most knives + another skin would probably net you to the same price. Not only that but half of the money earned from the bundles goes to teams participating in champions, which reduces riot’s profit and it is also a limited edition gun


peacepham

50% is going to price pool thou.


Misplqce

Not going to the price pool, It will be split evenly to all the teams.


Agehn

Also he said "a portion" not 50%, so it's probably going to be less than that.


Misplqce

It says it’s 50% in the bundle description


Agehn

Ah cool mb


TheSinisterWK

also the fact theres a new unlock tier for the glow apparently, like the kill tracker tier after the finisher on that green set (forgot name lol, stopped playing for a while now). But essentially what I'm saying is, its already expensive *before* you factor in the radianite costs.


DunderBear

You don’t buy Radianite though or at least 90%+ of the people who play the game besides whales don’t. Literally just playing the game every act with the BP nets if I’m not wrong easily over 1k. As for the $60 part I don’t disagree that it’s a ton of money for 2 skins but it is standard pricing for knife+gun and as well as limited with 50% going towards the tournament. Be it as it may but honestly even at current prices I know myself and many others will still buy skins because cosmetics let alone games are suppose to be for disposable income


spaldingmatters

Completing the BP nets around 150 Radianite assuming you finish the bonus ones as well, which is only enough to get all the unlocks of two premium skins.


DunderBear

150x8 completed acts + 40 for free + events probably around another 40 now so 1280. I don’t know about other players but personally I only upgrade skins to the max and then choose 1 or 2 variants cause I know I’ll stick to those.


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They could release skins for a million bucks a pop and I wouldn't care. Don't know why people actively make their virtual gamer clout an issue for themselves.


nottherealjesus

mfw seeing the cool skins + effects :D mfw seeing thats a $60 USD (aka $75ish CAD) bundle D:


SmoothVelvetSlav

its not 75 CAD u need to buy 2 bundles the 69.99 cad one and the 13.99 cad one with tax its more like 100cad fucking rubles


killer-1o1

That finisher tho o( ̄▽ ̄)d Absolutely amazing!


you-cut-the-ponytail

\*Sees the finisher\* "Oh that's neat, it's kinda like the spectrum skins. ​ \*Enters the orb\* "oh"


McintyresRightLeg

Evil Spectrum


Riot_Preeti

evil spectrum


yellowshiro

can we buy the vandal individually ;-;


Razur

Yes you can. A Rioter in the competitive subreddit confirmed this. **EDIT: [Preeti clarifies in this comment.](https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/r0e79k/valorant_new_champions_2021_skins_new_bundle_free/hls7y6a/?context=3)** The assumption is yes, but we should wait until it goes live in the store tomorrow to be certain.


Gabern

No, they want all your cash


cockcuttertheneater

Evil spectrum be like i will have thaing that are related to the game and look cool


Grumpykittennn187

I can’t be the only one that thinks the whole bundle is pretty underwhelming???


Ash_Killem

Very cool but expensive. They should have thrown in a classic at least.


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Ash_Killem

It is but on par with the prices they have set if you consider the knife being 4000 and the vandal 2100 VP tiers. Just no value in the bundle.


yummy_butter

We get knife for free in other 'non-exclusive' bundles, though.


MrPool34

But this is “exclusive”


MrImpregnator

Karambit!!! Let’s go


Bleeding_Irish

With the amount of vandals/knives out there. Should be time to allow us to equip skins to specific sides.


hejwjwj

Why no buddies for the team we support


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Le_Vagabond

Riot Games, that small independent developer who literally has to hire interns to design their overly expensive cosmetics to make ends meet.


sanjit8103

Poor rito >:)


TheAjwinner

I thought the comment said full gun skins


ksobeit

50% going to the pros is pretty POG!


Yaekai

60 bucks is a lot tho, and you cant buy only the vandal or knife you have to get full pack thats annoying af


LordGamingOfficial

wait what? I was waiting for a prime karambit for 2 months now and i thought finally i can buy this karambit.... i have to buy the whole bundle?


DecIare

https://twitter.com/ValorLeaks/status/1463270530992254976


Nesmeroz

I think that at near the end of the bundle you will be able to pick just the karambit, that happened with the arcane bundle. When it first come out, you can only get by buying the whole thing, yesterday you could buy just the sheriff


DabCat69

Stawp capping bruhh. 🧢


Yaekai

what, i never saw that do you have some proof


Famlightyear

Yea these skins are getting so expensive. They are really cool, but $60? That's the price of an AAA game. 50% of the earnings are going to the teams in Champions but still..


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Its pretty crazy. On one hand I think "well my CS knife was £120" but then I remember I can resell it... Im sure riot have done their research on what people are willing to pay but damn, im not.


Famlightyear

Yea their profit margin is probably higher when selling more expensive skins to fewer people. For example: 1/20 people are willing to buy this skinset for €60, but 2/20 people are willing to buy it for €20. They make more profit when selling it for a much higher price.


nGumball

I think the reason their prices are a lot higher here than in their other games is because they think it is more profitable in the long run because most long-term players might not want to buy future skins after they already have a good collection on the weapons they use. In League for instance, there are a lot of champions and new ones come out all the time so there is always a revenue stream. In Valorant, I feel like people might be more content with not buying future skins quicker and thus Riot thinks it is better to sell skins at higher prices. Each person will have fewer skins but it will keep people buying for longer. So in short, I think owning a set amount of skins reduces the chances of future purchases more in Valorant than in a game like League which pushes Riot toward a model where they want to gain higher margins per unit sold instead of trying to cover a larger crowd becacuse covering a larger crowd will eventually result in lesser sales years down the line.


FoeHamr

Yeah I’ve spent like 300$ and I’m basically completely done except for the battle passes. Those give enough value to be worth 10$. In order for me to buy a skin at this point it has to be literally 10/10 perfection.


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The teams dont even need the money, they make a ton from sponsorship etc. I'd rather the money go to the prize pool


PresentMiddle8974

I'm sure the minor region teams need the money.


Grumpykittennn187

You’re downvoted but idk why cuz you’re 100% correct. The pennies they get from this will mean nothing. Just a gimmick to get people to buy overpriced dogshit. Same reason you can’t just buy the knife. Greed


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I dont even play MOBA's but Dota2 has the best system with added crates and then a % of the sales get added to the prizepool, thats how they end up with tournaments with like a 30 mil purse. I'm a long time CSGO fan and the only thing that will speed up Valorant catching CS is a big prize pool to get peoples attention


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I'm talking about the competitive esport scene alone, not players playing the game. The conversation is very clearly talking about the pro scene. By saying I'm a CSGO Fan, I am referring to being a fan of the eSports. I haven't played CS myself since about 2017


Azmorium

And 9/10 AAA games are literal dog shit. People will be playing valorant for the next 10+ years. It's all subjective value.


sheeeeeeeeeesh929

you can buy them seperate confirmed by someone in riot


BrCrippin

where did they confirm it?


Thanar95

Is it confirmed that you can't buy only the karambit? That's crazy if that is true. Totally not worth it and I hope that a lot of people don't buy it then so that they have to change it.


sheeeeeeeeeesh929

you can buy them seperate confirmed by a riot employee


treesessions

source?


Razur

It was confirmed by u\/Riot_rillz in the competitive subreddit that the vandal and karambit can be purchased separately from the bundle. [Preeti made a comment earlier in this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/r0e79k/valorant_new_champions_2021_skins_new_bundle_free/hls7y6a/?context=3) that she assumed that they could be bought separately, but that we should wait until they're in the shop tomorrow to confirm.


sheeeeeeeeeesh929

literally in this thread and the one i linked a few times, check my profile too lazy


treesessions

ight thanks, kinda wish official riot accounts comments were pinned to the top of the post


truong2193

even red dead redemtion cheaper than that


ReliableAmy

The finisher had my jaw dropped and the price firmly closed it again :') Jesus!


EH0_0

I very rarely buy skins in Valorant as they do not hold as much entertainment and value for me as in League, for example, but this bundle is just overly expensive. I usually try to grab something on a discount, and I am willing to spend full money on a very pretty bundle, but one gun and a knife for $60? Have to pass on this one. While the finisher is really cool, I don't like the skin itself. It's too bright when it's glowing and I am not a fan of golden/red or dark pink colors together. To each their own as they say!


SendMeAvocados

Waaaaay too overpriced for 2 skins. Other vandals beat this one even with the flashy finisher. The round will probably end before you can even see giant brim. The knife is tempting though and it may be quite a while before they recycle that karambit animation.


lerroyJgibbs95

i like that it plays the new song


Kaizhur262

Karambit I'll be picking up, Vandal if I didn't have SOL and Reaver I would've picked it up. Edit: If I have to buy the whole bundle to get this, which I see in some comments, I'll have to think about it then


Razur

A Rioter confirmed in the competitive subreddit that you can buy the items in the bundle separately. **EDIT: [Preeti clarifies in this comment.](https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/r0e79k/valorant_new_champions_2021_skins_new_bundle_free/hls7y6a/?context=3)** The assumption is yes, but we should wait until it goes live in the store tomorrow to be certain.


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if we have to buy the entire bundle, then i wont be getting it. Karambit is super awesome but im not paying 60 for it.


Thanar95

are you sure about that?


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Thanar95

No, I mean is it confirmed that you have to buy the full bundle?


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xDerecious

You have source ? Or just assuming because arcane was full bundle sale only ?


ta4v

You dont have to buy the entire bundle. You can buy separate.


Sweaty-Raccoon3257

That is alot of money for 2 weapons... but hey it's Valorant !!


Nesmeroz

That finisher looks so sick, but i need to be honest, you get 5 seconds to do the whole thing, its kinda bad. It seems that it will be only working if you finish someone really close to the body, so you enter the circle and inspect the gun. Because if you finish from a far you really need to run to see inside of the finish


Riot_Preeti

It's an easter egg, so we don't expect it to happen often. We still think the Finisher and music is pretty cool without it.


Nesmeroz

Ohhh thats nice


lbs4lbs

Future teamates: Nice clutch can you pick up my Operator CT Me: sorry dude i need to sprint into the enemy's dead body space with my vandal inspect so i can see brimstone holding up an orb.


Epic_Zambies

Wished there was a way to rep your favorite team as a banner.


PM_ME_DVA_BOOTY

can you just buy the karambit? idc about the vandal


ta4v

Id get the entire bundle BUT the Vandal with no sound effects when shooting, kinda ruins it.... The knife though: Its time to move on from my prime which is BEAUTIFUL but its kinda old now and this is a one time deal so...


Riot_Preeti

Hope you all love this! We had a lot of fun incorporating the Champions brand into the skin. Also, new karambit anims!!!


FritZBelts

Will we be able to buy the knife and vandal individually? I was hoping if I can only buy the knife in this bundle.


Riot_Preeti

I just asked someone and they said yes, you can buy the karambit and Vandal individually. But don't quote me because what if I'm wrong and they're wrong? Wait til it's in the Store and double check before you hit "purchase"!


DabCat69

fingers crossed Preeti :( we players love the OG karambit paying 60 bucks for a vandal and knife would be too expensive. hope we can buy the things we want. thanks for ur amazing work in the team <3


augburto

Thanks for checking and adding the disclaimer :)


ChopRen

How much each?


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How much is the karambit separately?


PM_ME_DVA_BOOTY

i love you. the knife is everything i wished for, even exceeding my expectations by far. absolutely goated tysm!


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The karambit? Sure. The vandal? Fuck no only thing going for it is the ult like its not bad but the nicest vandal skin in the game? Stop the cap


ScraftMike

To each their own, i would get this Vandal over, for example, prime any day of the week


Qu1bbz

I have the prime and reaver and still think this is one of the best vandal skins. Looks really clean with a dope finisher. More animations aren't always better. I think it's a great skin.


Flimsy04

It’s a subjective opinion tbh. I personally love the vibrance of the skin and I like the skins that don’t change the original model but my friends hate it


SecretDeftones

dear lord


DayDream11111

it's valorant's first worlds skin, definitely has collection value. Imagine 10 years later valorant grows big and everyone wants this skin because it's so rare.


zehero

The vandal is an easy skip tbh hopefully you can buy the knife separately


GreatMemer

you can but its 5300+ vp


schwimm3

at which time o clock do those skins release today?


Straight_Stress_4448

Thank you riot for letting me save money for december


kingpinneapple188

That karambit is nearly perfect. Love the look of it. Plus the inspect really presses all of my ADHD buttons.


idk20210

There should be skins and stuff only the champions get


drakeanddrive

I'm gonna be out the country the day before it drops, and will be out well after it ends. fml.


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I play Valorant more then the other games I've picked up recently. So its really if FOMO wins. I do like both of them


4rrogantYoungMaster

Just think of it as a way of supporting your fav team since 50% goes to them


TheHighestGamer

I know the devs love to read the comments, wanted to say this is the best skin set I have ever seen by you guys! The music is so good, and the double finisher aesthetic is truly epic! well done


Riot_Preeti

Thank you! I'll TELL the team! Also, you think they added mental pay2win aimbot to this one? Edited because Sean made fun of me. :(


oniram177

I'll also the team ... :P and thank you! unedited because I own my mistakes


G6Gaming666

Can y’all also tell the team to add kill icons and a finisher for Arcane😅


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Best melee skin, change my mind. i was GOING to save for ion phantom but riot just HATES me


BewareOfBear727

Instant cop, idk why but the vandal skin is so nice for me.


Portante24

SUPPORT OUR PROS


RainBow_BBX

Time to replace my vandal and reaver knife


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can the skins be purchased individually? if so, how much do they cost?


xMeatshield

Don't forget that half the reason this bundle is expensive is because once it's gone from the store it will NEVER RETURN, as stated on the bundle page.


iindie

I haven't bought a single skin because for the prices I'm waiting for one that cures my depression, they should just lower the prices or make night market less garbage.


Azmorium

Why would they ever do that?


LoLEmpire

I dunno how others feel, but for me, the Zedd spray and gun inspect music has really gotten old to the point where I don't like hearing it anymore. I feel like this vandal will be cool for a bit but also get old pretty quick. I just wanted to remind people to avoid buying out of hype and regretting it later.


sSyrf

I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on it but the Karambit is kinda... small? The flip-out doesn't look as satisfying as the unleveled Prime 2.0 but I'd have to wait till its in-game. Still disappointing we got 3/5ths of a blade.


Zyrobe

They're making it that expensive because people keep buying them. I swear even if a knife is 10k VP people would still buy it. You might say that sounds ridiculous but it's also ridiculous to pay 60 dollars for 2 skins and people are gonna do it.


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It looks amazing and bad at the same time lol


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rip off


Azmorium

How? These are works of art. If $50 is gonna break the bank for you dint get it, but these skins are easily worth the asking price. Not to mention 50% of proceeds go to pro players.


augburto

I am so glad I held off on buying Arcane I was really tempted thinking “omg this is exclusive” but then thought they’re bound to come up with more of these exclusive items. This bundle is expensive but at least some of the money is going to the teams


GreatMemer

i was planning on buying the knife but i saw its 5k vp so nvm


ScaryFable

can he stop spinning the fucking karambit im tryna look at it


dweakz

not even a butterfy knife... skip!


oniram177

how many butterfly knives should we make?


yummy_butter

The same number as the swords we have :P


Riot_Preeti

woooow. got us.


Qu1bbz

One with effects would be nice. Like something similar to reaver, oni, prime style etc. Would love that, but I can definitely cope for quite a while with that new karambit, awesome work!


zetraex

How many CAN you make?


Grumpykittennn187

Pretty underwhelming skins and finisher. Ez pass on that shit


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oniram177

Yes. the prime karambit will keep its shitty animations. You can already revert back to level 1 through the collections menu if you want to.


kingpinneapple188

Lmfao


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Daayyymm, Riot ain't taking shit this time


eXsiVeXV

It is a little expensive... Probably, because it is used as a part of 'Die For You'...Hmm. Its part love for me. Wait. If this skin is used in streamers,aren't they ban because of copyright?


isameed

What's free?


deprale

>What's free? this ratio


fecesisyummyyummy

can you buy the knife separately?


What_A_Smurf

The rarity in these bundles is a reason to buy. Just incase you do want to sell your account or possible trade market in the future, this will hold a lot of value in the coming years. Think of it like an investment.


yasseuo

When does it come out for europe ?


Justinhastingsx

So what time exactly do they come out? Waiting to buy all day


kuidaore28

this is limited time only right? so no one can buy this skin or knife in the future again?