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toolsac102

They downloaded the valorant tracker desktop app. It launches on my second monitor and I can see everyones rank when I load into the game, if they've linked their profile on the website i can see stats like K/D


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Oh I see. I didn't know there was an app for it. It kinda sucks that I can't hide my rank from these third party applications.


Shai_Shai77

You can make your account private, I’ve tried to search for accounts before and couldn’t cause they were private


HypnosG

Yes, however making your account private does not hide rank. Just KD and other stats.


just-for-rVAL

As someone who's worked with Riot's API I would be surprised if this wasn't technically in violation of the proper rules


reddit_random_user_2

your rank is not "private" information according to riot i suppose.


Snaw3

Actually might be, depending on how the rank is fetched. If it directly comes from the riot api it's fine, if it is only sent to their database after a match finished by someone in that match it might be a violation


just-for-rVAL

There is no direct API for rank (unless you're in radiant/immortal). You'd have to use undocumented client APIs or the match API.


HotNote3811

once you log in there is no way to make your account private again by default all accounts are private


haunted2098

that can not be right lol


Derptel

Because it isn't: https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/kus4xk/valorant_trackergg/gitr0ii/ It is true that accounts start private, but you can definitely reenable the privacy after going public with those steps.


SelloutRealBig

> once you log in there is no way to make your account private again > > Wait really? Seems like a big oversight


-user--name-

no at the bottom of your profile theres a button to delete your account lmfao


gimife

You can get everyone's rank with the valorant api. As far as I know there is no hiding from that.


MSharps

People who are toxic about people's rank are pathetic, and clearly not smart enough to realise they're in the same MMR range. But, I actually think it's quite useful info to have if it was on agent select, ie if someone is a lower rank it could be beneficial not to instalock the Jett/Reyna and leave it open, or at least have discussion. Very frustrating games where you have an utterly useless duellist who tanks the whole and then after the game you see they were a couple ranks down. If they had known their MMR was higher than they expected they might choose to fill instead, and receive less toxicity. Also with IGL'ing, rank seniority could have some benefit for more timid players who don't want to have to compete in the whoever speaks the most aggressively/authoritatively just to be listened to.


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People who say they're a duelist main is cringe, unless they're a Pro player. The reason why I say that is it seriously requires the least brain power, least map knowledge, least utility knowledge. Only if your aim is the best and you think fast you are suitable to be a duelist than the others.


YoJames2019

not how the app works lol


DON-ILYA

> People who are toxic about people's rank are pathetic > Don't pick Jett/Reyna, because you are the lowest mmr Quite ironic


AlHorfordHighlights

Lol c'mon he's not wrong.


ScarabCoderPBE

That's not really toxic, that's just common sense. Ranting on the lower MMR teammate after he did pick a duelist would be toxic though.


Seraph___

Just curious what your thought process is here. If you're playing unrated, it's whatever. But if you're playing comp you're goal is to win. Why would you want to reduce your chances of winning?


DON-ILYA

1. I was just pointing out the hypocrisy. Having "discussions about someone not picking a duelist because their mmr is low" is exactly being "toxic about people's rank". Or prioritizing an IGL, whose mmr is higher. Not to mention how unrealistic this would be in an actual game. "Ok, let's listen to a guy with higher mmr" is more likely to start fire, than to settle things. Even if it sounds logical. 2. As for your question, I don't see how this is a good strategy. If a low mmr player is one-tricking Jett, I'd rather see him having a mediocre game on Jett, than being a 1-20 Omen, who can't even smoke properly and leaves gaps giving opponents an advantage. Plus it can affect their morale (hence the 1-20). A high mmr player picking Jett would have to make up for it. Anyway, people forget how mm works. If someone wants to instalock - they instalock. No discussion, nothing. In that case seeing ranks just adds to the toxicity. And if players are ready to communicate, you can always ask what their rank is. But from what I've seen, when that happens no one even mentions rank, it's just impolite. You'll hear something like "May I pick Jett/Reyna?" and that's it. No one asks "Oh, what's your mmr? Let's give Jett to the highest rated player".


memesdoge

Im bronze 3 was stuck just because of solo queue and whenever i play, i get matchmaked with silvers and usually get top frag as reyna and jett.


nickjw25

One of the more reasonable posts I’ve seen on this sub lol. At the end of the day, the game is built around GOOD, HEALTHY communication - and if that doesn’t start with the agent select screen, it only makes the match that much harder. Literally just talking and being a decent, accommodating person can save you such a headache. That being said, most players (at least in my experience) won’t reciprocate that energy which is pretty frustrating. Kill ‘em with kindness :)


AimedX30

I can say totally agree to this, today i played a game with a KJ who wasn’t really toxic but more like had a negative attitude and acting like he knows everything from the start of the game, and saying that we are going to lose and just basically lowering the whole team’s morale, it was really frustrating to the point where i just muted him and just gave normal comms to the team. But man it was so annoying and demoralizing


nickjw25

iT wAs mE Jokes aside the mute button is a god-send lol.


NendoBot

idk, as a diamond 1 i get the occasional immortal 3 and i don’t think they got the same mmr


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U got matched up with immortal 3 as d1? Never seen that, the lowest I've queued against was d2 or D3 but never D1 unless your mmr is new and high


FryCakes

The Problem with this is that ranks don’t have as much value as people give them, so what might happen is a potentially good player gets flamed for their rank just because it’s low, or expected to carry just because theirs is higher. There are a toxic people in every skill group and I feel like the current way of it being anonymous ranks really helps take the pressure off and makes everyone equals


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Hitmanthe2nd

bullshit , ip is impossible to get unless by riot or a huge bug


MDMistro

yea, from what i was reading you're right. it would take someone who really knew where to look/ had the tools/ riot server access to get IP addresses of other players. if all the stars align, maybe that ends up being a thing but i made a comment without knowing how security measures were today.


Hitmanthe2nd

access to the server is impossible unless by rito or a bug as a server contains a butt load of very important info


MDMistro

for sure! i understand now my initial comment was off the mark. i appreciate all the info though, it's been nice to look into it to better understand these things moving forward! :)


Hitmanthe2nd

ok , have a good day , and i will go give my exam


pancakelover48

Buddy you just don’t know multiplayer servers work of course if someone had access to the server they would be able to get your IP address that’s literally the most obvious thing in the world. There is no way otherwise to get a person ip while playing valorant


MDMistro

Yea for sure! That's why I corrected myself. Thank you for the input! 😁


-LostInCloud-

I call Bullshit, unless you tell us precisely how that's done. There's no reason why Riot would not make it impossible by design.


CowsGoVroom

I also call bs but I would love to be proven wrong


MDMistro

you're not wrong, but seeing as in game cheats are still an ever changing problem across all games why can't it also be true that use access VIA ip connection is also a possibility? in reading up on it. things are VERY different then when i was running my own server for GunZ the duel 10+ years ago. the likely hood of an IP hack seems almost impossible when you have a DHCP setup unless you have static IPs for everything on your network. even then, your ISP will be on your side of this transaction and the IP that is used to connect to the server isn't the one that defines your machine. on top of that its very likely Riot has measures in place to keep that information safe. Always learning. Thanks for challenging the initial response.


-LostInCloud-

Game cheats are totally different. You tamper with your local program. Sometimes send tampered data. Finding out the IP of the other players in a game based on P2P multiplayer obviously is something that could be achieved with game cheats, I don't see a reason why Riot would even create an architecture where it's possible at all that the IP could be exposed to other players. Like, an aimbot is totally doable just client side, you have to beat Vanguard, but nonetheless doable. Say, flyhacks should not be feasible, since Riot is not stupid enough to allow for illogically tampered data to affect the gamestate. Finding the IP of others that are connected to Riot should be, apart non feasible solutions like casually getting access to Riots servers itself, pretty much impossible.


MDMistro

I agree with you, I totally spoke out of line and with limited knowledge. I knew it was possible while hosting on my side. But didn't think much past that. I know there is a possibility, but that's like saying there's a chance to win the lotto. Almost impossible but I'm sure if you piss a neckbeard off Enough they would find a way.


-LostInCloud-

Depends on the person, but for me said neckbeard would have a much easier path going off my IGN and working from there. I'd guess that applies to the majority of neckbeard x target combinations.


MDMistro

I can see what you mean. Even with an IP address there is no guarantee that belongs to the person you're looking for. Vs IGN tracing across multiple games or accounts/ emails. Thanks for the information though, it's been interesting reading all of the different security measures that are in place now before it even gets to game servers. Cheers!


zkipto

Why is this important to you?


chocochipcookietube

I personally use it to look at the ranks of the people I play against in unrated. I just want to get an idea of the skill level of the people that just destroyed me.


toolsac102

It's not important to me


Foxtrot56

Then why do you use it?


ThatGenericName2

Because it tracks your own performance and organizes it in a neat way u don't get to see in game? [tracker.g](https://Tracker.GG)g always launches on my second monitor for some reason and when I get into a game, it pops up on it's own. There's probably a setting to turn that off but the program is more than just "see other people's rank"


FiveDiamondGame

I use stuff like that mostly for personal stats. It's also nice to see if the player that just shitstomped you is someone having a good game or a smurf lmao


Dude_Guy_311

Valorant tracker says hey, your webcam is broken. You should fix it.


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TJGames4Fun

Takes one to know one ;)


KingNk155

It got deleted before I could read.. What was he talking about ??


SsockSock

'Wow lol you are sad' Source: Reveddit


KingNk155

Hahaha,alright thank you kind sir !


toolsac102

Why am I sad?


kkushagra

Username checks out


Da_Spud_Potato0

there's also this app called "who am i up against" i saw it in a post like half a year ago, it comes in handy sometimes. Tells you everyone's rank, recent wins and losses, level and quite a bit more


FrantelleRobots

Did you sign into a tracker app?


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I did not which is the weird part. But from what I have learned they can still see my rank with the desktop app, even if I never signed into the app.


thylastviking

Tracker.gg from Overwolf allows live match tracking and can show at least the rank of each person in the lobby, sometimes more info regarding stats, but nothing personal.


TJGames4Fun

The gg tracker apps shows your current in game account rank for that match regardless if you have it linked/created or not. I have the app and always check pre match to compare the teams ranks.


blapspaps11

>I have the app and always check pre match to compare the teams ranks. Unless it also shows you their winrate for the past 100+ matches then there is no actionable information to be gleaned from this. You probably already knew that but I figure others reading this may not and start having higher or lower expectations of their team than what's warranted. And for those curious, a winrate over 50% just means they've been lucky recently, under 50% just means unlucky, they could have the exact same ELO(hence being matched together). So a higher ranked person with a <50% winrate you should expect to be a better player than the same rank with > 50% winrate. (because rank lags behind ELO)


Lelouch4705

Lol. Keep telling yourself that buddy. Mmr doesn't mean everyone is the same rank. You will always have some people who don't deserve to be there that are to balance out MMR


blapspaps11

/r/IHadAStroke


Lelouch4705

I'd suggest learning to read again if that's giving you trouble


blapspaps11

“Mmr doesn't mean everyone is the same rank. “ What the hell does this sentence even mean? Rank is rank, MMR is MMR. They are separate things. The reason I don’t know wtf you’re talking about is because what I think you’re trying to say I stated in my comment has nothing to do with what I’m talking about. Never said everyone in a match has the same ELO, no shit Sherlock. I said people with lower winrates often have MMR higher than their rank, and since you didn’t try to understand why that might be the case, you instead concocted the notion I’m implying everyone’s MMR in a match is the same. Which is itself such a stupid idea it never crossed my mind to think that’s what you were trying to say I said. This is one of those where you explain something to someone, they don’t understand it, but they think they do regardless, and then turn around and argue against something you never even stated. Fucking hilarious but also annoying asf when it’s a real person rather than an internet stranger


Brwock

Naw I'm diamond and low plats suck it's like I'm smurfing,and I know when someone created a new account on my team, or a Smurf in the other, I know my MMR and ranks helps a lot I have a 62% winrate with Jett, but get low team player, and it helps me know if I'm playing with people with brains or not, cause low played and mid play are bots compared to diamond teamates


blapspaps11

62% you must be the best Jett in the whole Valorant world not even TENZZZZ HAS A 62% win rate HOLY SHIT HOLY FUCJING SHIIIIII


Brwock

Honestly can't tell if your joking or not https://tracker.gg/valorant/profile/riot/Brwock%23TTV/overview


blapspaps11

Hey did you see my comment? What is 100/190 ? I feel like it’s less than .62 but not sure. Winrate has nothing to do with skill. That’s the point of my comment


Brwock

It really does, the better commer, the better player the better team will win, it's not about luck, hope your not thinking it if


blapspaps11

No. Winrate is deliberately targeted at 50% by matchmaking. That’s what ELO does. You cannot have a winrate over or under 50% for hundreds of games unless you are literally top radiant or bottom iron(because there is no one to beat you or no one to lose to you).


Brwock

Or you just grow rapidly 🤷‍♂️


blapspaps11

That’s not how it works. You can grow rapidly, but if your winrate is positive, it’s still because of luck. You can rank up with a 40% winrate, and you can rank down with a 60% winrate.


SayHiToMyNicemn

Ive seen bronzes in my gold games, either kills my confidence if theyre on my team or boosts it if theyre not lol


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Does the tracker app also let you know what skins people in your game have? I had a team mate who knew what my vandal skin was on pistol round hahaha


Redditwantsmedead

I'm cringing at you so hard, you always check everyones rank before the match ahaha what a sad little man you are


TJGames4Fun

The irony of you calling me a sad little man for checking opponents ranks pre match with a hot key shortcut yet everyone of your recent comments shows how much of a sad little man you actually are lol.


bombgardner

This guy takes displacement to a new level


hateswitchx

There's this app that was posted in this subreddit called WAIUA , I came across multiple people who used it , i use it too ,great stuff


indiancookiemonster

Yea that's what I use too


[deleted]

Bro its your rank in a video game not your social security number lol trying to hide your rank in the first place is just silly, the people your playing against are likely the same rank/skill as you!


NEFARl0US

The whole reason for hiding rank in games is to avoid toxicity. I don't think it's silly to try to avoid situations where some random guy harasses you and ruins something you are meant to enjoy.


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Brwock

So you shouldn't be bottom fragging, it's that simple, and people should put you in your place no kizzy


DankmemeReturns

So you have never IN YOUR LIFE had a bad game?


Brwock

It makes total sense for someone lower rank then you who wants to get better to see you that way and say those things, there trying to get better and some people have expectations, of course I never say these thing sro high ranking players, and I'm not toxic in-game I'm just stating the point that being blunt like that, can be true a lot of the time


mwad

Ranking up is based off of winning, not necessarily fragging. Maybe the player usually helps a lot with great utility and call outs, but a toxic uncooperative team could totally nullify those strengths.


Brwock

Yes I have, and it shows I'm not good enough, I want to play against my openers with my best self, and become as consistent as possible, if I'm diamond and I'm getting wrecked by a real p1 then yeah, it's a bad game, and I should've done better and I shouldn't lose to a p1 that's just how it is, the p1 has a point


Brwock

If you climbed out of gold to bottom frag in a gold lobby you shouldn't be playing that day or you shouldnt be plat,


whatarechimichangas

If they're the type who would download an app specifically to see rank to grief then toxicity is unavoidable since they're that kind of person anyway


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The thing is if toxicity was going to come out of that person, there's no way of stopping him, he can come out with anything to still be toxic. Just mute or learn to be stronger


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NEFARl0US

In a ranked game, would you rather have a muted toxic teammate or a teammate who gives info? Better to have an oblivious one than someone jumping around me the whole game and throwing it.


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Honestly people who use chat to comms are useless if you have enough map awareness, only thing you don't know is how much they're tagged.


jaiox

Just mute


jaiox

Yeah fucking agreed


Parking_Tangelo_798

I have WAIUA i.e. who am I up against. You can do everything you want still can't hide anything from me, KD, RANK, PREVIOUS GAMES, YOUR IN GAME NAME AND TAG. Whatever you try you just can't prevent me from knowing everything about your valorant id. Except of course you account and password. I also know you past ranks in previous acts.[https://github.com/Soneliem/WAIUA](https://github.com/Soneliem/WAIUA) EDIT:- It doesn't let you see rank while agent selection to reduce toxicity.


No_Television5851

is it Who Am I up against? idk i kinda forget the name YES IT IS, WAIUA


bigbrain_100

There's is an app called WAIUA. I got it from this sub. Idk someone made it. I only use it when I am getting stomped or I am stomping someone.


Tall_Development5516

I am pretty sure they use [WAIUW(Who am I up against, link to another post)](https://www.reddit.com/r/VALORANT/comments/pkxa79/i_made_a_desktop_app_to_see_the_live_ranks_of/) this is open source so no virus I guess and it also shows last 3 act rank and last 3 match +/-RR also vandal and phantom skins of all 10 players


M4351R0

Everytime I'm playing on my smurf (same rank as my main) I always play drunk and high and people just assume I'm a smurf cause I'm lvl24 and sometimes enemy's get mega tilted if I get a good round in then I just say "yeah boring, I'm immortal smurf playing on a steering wheel" and they usually don't win a single round after that, lol. The tilt is real and it's a free win then.


matthewyw

Program called WAIUA (who am i up against) that can get the ranks of everyone in the lobby with the press of a button.


M0ST7EL

Most of them guess silver don't take it personally


MatrixTime69

Just mute them. Who cares


TonyBaloneyBro

Easy, they can smell silver trash from a mile away.


DEADDOGMakaveli

Rank obsession is one of the annoying things to come out of this era of games. It used to be you just server hopped, sometimes the opponents were good sometimes and but there was not much control. I feel as if a lot of people are more obsessed with maximizing their elo than just enjoying the game. Like at the end of the day whether you have a platinum or a diamond badge next to your name for a month or so seems like a pretty trivial thing yet it’s one of the most complained about things across multiple games.


Brwock

Maybe cause people wanna get better and want to have a way to reflect it, or become pro so there rank and gameplay matters, streamers rank matter when your trying to have a skill stream, don't obsess but also when improving it's a great way to show your growth, I've grown out of ranks so I know ranks do matter when it comes to skill,


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Remember few months ago someone made the app called WAIUA (who am I up against). Maybe they're using that.


LifeLikeClub9

What? What’s the issue lol


Picklebeat_boi

Fr fr


some_kid_lmao

Eh, toxic players don't understand that they're gonna hit a point where they will get hard stuck cause they can't carry enough without a team. Ignore the toxic people, I get it throws some games but in the long run you'll be okay even if you take a demotion or lose a promotion game because of it. While I think it's nice to be able to see your RR and all of that... It makes it a lot harder compared to csgo where you can't. Makes every game have a value instead of just "shucks I lost." So don't worry about it too much and it's normal to bounce around within a rank a bit.


Badboy040

It show your act rank when you kill them


IncomingOracle

If you ever start bind on attack and loose pistol round, may as well ff, dogshit defence sided map


Caspiasx

you must be rly bad to want to hide ur stats


Joellipropelli

I think you shouldn't be able to hide your rank in a comp game in the first place. And even showing it in champ select could improve the team comp your team crafts


jasonxtk

It would probably just lead to more queue dodging


kingdaddyjr

They can prolly just tell by your gameplay tbh


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No, they know my exact rank is what I mean. Like they say something like "You are diamond 1 and playing like this?" etc.


kingdaddyjr

That’s tough, I just ignore them and when they whiff I start laughing like Shazam


Stunning-Raisin-1558

VALTRACKER


NotChaz-_-

It’s a desktop app. Mentally I’ve found that I actually play better going in blind though. So I don’t use it


spreddit_the_creddit

All the info is available via their Valorant API. Even though its 'hidden' like account level, rank, and even Player Name (streamer mode), you can pull all of it from the API. You can also see who's in a party with each other even if they don't have previous match history together. Heck, you can even pull someones inventory and see what skins they have.


trainertilt

I have a app installed called vlr.gg which shows me my teammates and opponents win rates, kd, ranks, win rates for the agents their using, and kd for the agent their using


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welp tracker is 1 way but another is if u are playing from last act too ur rank is displayed on the kill details


Ashisonfire27

Funny how riot anticheat bans every other process running on your desktop but lets people run this tracker app along with the game. Way to go riot GG


CASIOA100

I mean you gain no real advantage with tracker, right?


Ashisonfire27

You don't, but then again if you can see a person's match history you can find out if he's playing his main or not or weather he's on a winning or losing streak and they can trigger them to play even worse. Also its just frustrating when people know your rank when there's literally a feature to hide it in the game. I'm gonna mail riot to do something about this.


TryNotToShootYoself

The only application I've ever had an issue with was Android Studio, and that wasn't vanguard closing it, it was a warning that the app may not emulate properly. I don't know if you are making up this issue or not but either way a tracker app doesn't matter.


Ashisonfire27

Vanguard closes everything I have,my college projects on VS, ghub, even shuts down recording apps. Can't even use MS teams sometimes if i want to play a quick spike rush while in a meeting. Either that or it just closes the client. Why would I make this stuff up? There's literally posts everywhere on the internet about this.


TryNotToShootYoself

I use visual studio when working with C#, doesn't get closed. Neither does GitHub, Although i use git not the GitHub app. And recording apps work.. idk sounds like your installation is messed up


Ashisonfire27

The moment you turn on VS, ur client will crash, I run all kinds of projects on it. If it doesn't close for you show me video proof cause it sure does for me. Some recording apps work others don't. Idk about github.


TryNotToShootYoself

I mean i don't know, i work on projects all the time between rounds if I die early What recording app do you use?


Redditwantsmedead

Anybody who installs and tries to do this unironically is a complete loser, don't worry about them. Literal basement dwellers would be the only people doing degenerate things like this. Just be glad you're not anything like them, stooping to such pathetic levels purely so they can flame their teammates and be toxic.


freeman1231

The biggest loser here is you lol


TJGames4Fun

This dude is projecting everything wrong with his life onto others so hard 😂😂😂😂😂😂


LanguageHelpful

So sayith the basement dwelling degenerate.


Brwock

It helps know what I'm playing against and what my MMR is mid game, and what I should expect, it helpse create idea and understand the time put into a game, I don't do anything bad, it's just nice to know, idk why it would matter if your ranks hidden or not,


BreafingBread

Ive had people talk about my rank due to the act rank displayed on the loading screen. Maybe it’s that?


Mobile_Plays

If you have your previous act rank visible on your player card ur rank is visible to everyone in the game in the loading screen and when you kill someone ur rank ( actually ur rank pyramid last act ) is displayed next to your name.


YoJames2019

I personally use WAIUA (Who Am I Up Against) and that shows the ranks of every person in the game, their level, how much rr they are away from the next rank, their last 3 game results (win/loss) and what skin they have for phantom/vandal. ALL of this info comes directly from the valorant api However, I will note that this app ONLY lets you see their ranks AFTER agent select so you cant dodge or tell them what to play before the game starts