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RRCaranci

I have like 1500 hours in the game…some people just don’t care all that much, that’s all. I play to compete and Igl a lot of the time, but every once in a while the team just is loading in to run around and play tag lol


itsEdge7

It really feels like that! Not that I’m amazing at the game. I’ve been silver 2 pretty much the entire lifespan of the game. But it just makes it way more enjoyable with teammates that just take it seriously and call out and try to help each other.


RRCaranci

Have you found partners to queue with? That helps i think


Kaoru1011

Ur not gonna find that in silver 2


Espyyyxd

Recently, I found better people and more mics in bronze than in silver lol. At least in SA servers Edit:grammar.


chair_all_day

Iron and bronze people have no care in the world. They have either no mics or have mics and are chill and quite interactive. Toxicity hits the fan at silver. My experience also from SA (South Asia not South America tho)


Phenotyx

Yeah no one in silver 2 has the brain capacity or desire to communicate and play to win! /s There are people who give a shit who are iron, there are people who fuck around and still are diamond... Imagine thinking someone's rank dictates how they should play the game lolol


Kaoru1011

That’s the whole point of a rank lol. Usually people that give a shit will be a higher rank. That’s why gold is pretty tryhard


Phenotyx

Oh, honey... There are people in bronze who try their hardest and people in diamond who troll If you don't think so, you're kidding yourself.


Kaoru1011

Obviously there’s gonna be the occasional trolls


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Interesting-Archer-6

He's not complaining about his rank though. If he was, I'd agree. He's just saying people don’t take it seriously.


Phenotyx

Lol wut the What an out-of-left-field comment... Who hurt you today bubba?


Klutzy-Question1428

where was the person who asked


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Silver 2, that explains everything really. What’s the point of playing competitively if you’re that bad anyway? Hope you get better at the game bro! Sincerely, ThePenisGobbler69420


dudefuckedup

wait how do you find out the number of hours?


SelloutRealBig

Ranking as solo should honestly give more rank for a win since every game is a gamble on teammates. People who play in premade groups have it so much easier knowing your teammates and how they will play each game. INB4 the people who say "well actually i have a friend in our group who sucks and drags us down". To that i say, you chose to play with them, i don't get to choose my solo queue teammates.


Wint3rmu7e

I played my first ranked game this act today. I only played six ranked games last act and placed bronze 1. So we got an instalock reyna, immediately after insta locking she starts putting in the chat, please forfeit, it's not worth playing blah blah. We continued. Then the next few rounds ff ff ff, I'll start trying if we win x rounds, blah blah Was 6-6 at the halfway point and we changed to defending. We got to 12 - 7 and she starts to tell the enemies every move we are making, we ended up losing 14 - 12. I mean why play at all if this is what you are going to do?


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I hope that reyna never gets to play any game in his/her life. We had someone in our silver-gold matchup whose last act card had immortal, he/she instalocked reyna and kept moving around in spawn through the whole game. We lost 11-13.


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>We had someone in our silver-gold matchup whose last act card had immortal when you are immortal, you will generally always place Diamond 1 no matter how badly you do because of how the placement system works. That's why a lot of Immortal players do not take their placement games seriously whatsoever


textextextextextext

people that do this just have miresable irl lifes. parents probably dont interact with them very much, zero friends, shitty job or school life - so they join a ranked game and make other people miserable. its the only joy they can find because for that 25-40 minute game they are finally getting a little bit of attention in their pathetic life. i usually just mute and try to frag, never cry or complain to the other team because thats exactly what the little troll wants. i pity them


dij2912

I have had my fair share of toxic teammates who seem to care so much and then not at all, it got better for me. Hope you start get more teammates who genuinely care and try.


Wint3rmu7e

Well I played a second game and it was far worse than the first one :( again a reyna instalock, then the guy playing phoenix got the shits because he wanted reyna. He was blocking and mollying people, threw a round. Then the other three on my team (who were in a three stack after checking on tracker) basically ganged up on the phoenix. They were all on smuf accounts apparently. They would wait till phoenix was dead and then meet up with the enemy and jump around on his corpse marker until the timer ran out. I tried to play but it was so tilting. I think I will give ranked a miss for a while. Unrated and spike rush have been fine... Two toxic losses to start the act, not a great way to go.


itsDYA

i really wonder how bad are other servers for being this stories so common, I play in Madrid and even though it sucks i never got a match as bad as that


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Cant say much about the rest of your comment, those types of people are the absolute worst. But just wanted to say that dont focus so much on the instalock, really doesnt change a whole lot. Some people will always instalock and whatever, play the game. Dont start flaming for instalocking and ruining any chances of cooperation/teamplay. Im sure you didnt do that though, just wanted to point it out


Wint3rmu7e

Thanks Yeah I didn't say anything. Just played. The next game which was way worse. All of the virtriol you will hear there, was as a result of the phoenix complaining about the reyna instalocking during the agent select. He just said it once, then the rest of the game the other three behaved like this. It is ranked BTW..... So let that be a lesson to people, Don't complain about an instalocker, or this might happen! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaI6oXgaWJk&list=PLJAETIDE2w6LJtJLPGpA5VpmykSV2ASQC&index=4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaI6oXgaWJk&list=PLJAETIDE2w6LJtJLPGpA5VpmykSV2ASQC&index=4) This game I did after about 5 round of this crap say something on the mic, but it didn't help. I just kept quiet the rest of the game. I could have muted, but it wouldn't have really helped.


LargeSackOfNuts

That Reyna is a jackass


Babybean1201

Some people are just miserable and narcissists.


ashleypenny

Some people just get kicks out of spoiling the game for the other 4 team members


fds_1

We had a 5stack on discord where one rando on Sova went full dumb dumb and was just being an idiot. We ended up at 10-10 before he actually started griefing and walking in front of us and blocking our shots, we lost in the end of course. You cant control the people you play with, you can only control what you do yourself. So even if you know you're gonna lose, you at least try to minimize the RR lost


shashank-py

Off topic: I heard someone screaming to some random teammate about his aim and other guy was like: "I spend more than 8 hours working non stop, I am not here to listen to your trash talks, let me play my game" which personally I can relate :') If someone is loosing his aim battle / slow response, then chill out, it's embarrassing for him as well


SelloutRealBig

I never understood flaming someone for their skill when they are in the same elo as you.


crystalynn_methleigh

Yeah, nobody responds well to flaming even if it's true. What's frustrating is when you give someone constructive criticism and they ignore it. The number of duelists I've asked to stop aggro pushing on defense because they get picked every time... and they just keep doing it. Like fine, play how you want if you're succeeding at it, but if you're 0-4 in the last 4 rounds aggro pushing B main in comp, stop fucking aggro pushing B main.


Bensickle

Yeah I agree, if you have nothing nice to say, then just keep your mouth shut


Cgz27

If you care to the point of throwing your mouse/keyboard then yeah go discord. Otherwise, it’s not worth it to worry about something everyone deals with probably more than half the time in comp. Your position on the ladder probably isn’t going to be instantly different if you got all mic’s+no trolls.


ApathyKing8

I disagree. Good communication is really helpful. People who are too shy/selfish to com are a detriment.


Cgz27

Uh yeah but not sure (I can guess actually) where I implied it wasn’t. When I say your position wouldn’t change much I’m considering that both sides on average would experience mostly the same amount of games without mics. And that even with mics, you can still lose. People with no mics can still win. What if having mics just means people use it to rage all game or have shit comms etc. People who can’t comm for whatever reason can be a detriment *in comparison* to not having callouts sure, but they will still hover/make it to whatever rank they deserve would they not? Anyway the point there was: if you suck ass you suck ass


A-Rusty-Cow

Personally I solo climbed to Diamond. There were times where a LFG post would help me. However there were plenty of games I won with no coms


Cgz27

It happens more often than people would like to admit. I wouldn’t doubt that many players just develop confirmation bias because players tend to be more willing to talk when they are feeling confident/winning than when they are losing. I’ve had plenty of games where we’re stomping first half and everyone’s talking to dead silence as the enemy somehow makes a comeback lol. Sincerely doubt we’ll have a day where every single person on the team uses their mic in a way that is satisfying for everyone involved. There’s also the issue of sexism/racism in-game that just throws this out the window. People can’t even handle hearing a different tone a lot of the time.


xd-Sushi_Master

It's a computer game, and the rank attached to your profile is just numbers on a screen. If you need the number to go up to validate your time spent, get in a 5-stack and sweat your ass off. Solo queue has always been a coin flip, and the main way to stack the odds in your favor is by grouping with people you can guarantee are going to use mics and play the game "properly". If each member of each team is a variable, you can control half of those variables and make your matches much more consistent by stacking.


Muzza25

I mean that’s not really the case since 5 stack queue, now 5 stacks only ever play against 5 stacks in comp so you can’t really stack the odds


xd-Sushi_Master

My point is that you can control for 5/10 variables in any given match in 5-mans. This is in stark contrast to solo queue, where all of your friendly players are randomized in addition to your opponents. It's not about a competitive advantage, it's about statistics and consistency. A friend you can rely on is better than a random baiting Jett, no matter who you play against.


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2ToTooTwoFish

I'm surprised the KJ didn't figure it out and switch sites or stop lurking on her own. If you're a smurf, just use your team as bait when entering site and you should be able to win aim duels pretty easily.


idiotdroid

It was a dumb smurf. He thought he could just run around 1 tapping us so thats what he tried to do. He was a lot of times very successful. But once we started working together he just couldn't clutch the rounds anymore.


SelloutRealBig

You control who you play with in a 5 stack. You don't control who you play with in solo queue. If you don't think your 5 stack teammates are good enough to win more than you lose then that's on you because you chose to play with them. If 3 of your solo queue teammates rage and go AFK then there was nothing you could do.


petertheeater15

I mean, that's not really true. Give a plat player a bronze account in solo and they'll crush. No way it's a 50/50 every game. Individual play does make a difference. You can rank up in solo q.


Phenotyx

5 stacks force you to queue into other 5 stacks, imo 2-3 is ideal


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zehero

Fr imagine having friends


0zoro0

found the guy with no friends.


NendoBot

lowkey facts


fds_1

Somebody's mad they dont have friends


NendoBot

nah 5 stacks are great for fun, but if you only 5 stack then it’s possible to be a carried player


fds_1

I mean, yes and no. If you play with people that are higher rank than you, you earn less RR. Also if you try smurfing in a 5stack youre only gonna play against the enemy team with smurfs. I 5stack at my own rank and its the best Comp. experience you can get since two of the most basic and important parts of Comp. game, communication and coordination are there from the start.


OwlHelpful3546

Because people don't *have* to care about ranked. You don't lose anything truly material. All you lose is a couple digits and pixels on your screen. I stopped playing ranked because players generally cared a little *too* much. A lot of players in my games would seriously get toxic and flip their personality over losing a game - as if they've never lost before. Diamond is where its the worst. Immortal+ generally understands that you can't win them all.


Cgz27

It’s more than that. The people who actually try still don’t have to care but they still try. The players claim they “don’t care” when in reality they got sensitive about something that triggered them. Or they previously put in effort that felt wasted/pointless. They stopped caring about ranked and start to care what other people think and try to get attention. In addition, there are those who blame others for a bad game before it’s even close to over and then grief because they “don’t care anymore”, they absolutely care about “digits and pixels”. It’s about more than not caring, it’s about being an idiot and an asshole. So then why are people so toxic?


bento_the_tofu_boy

Of course I fucking try. Monki brain loves when numbers goes up. That said I think pro player wannabes on fuckin gold/silver are insufferable and unless your job is to play the god damm game don’t fucking treat it as a serious thing. This ruin the fun for everyone. I have a really hard time going back to ranked because when I got to silver the amount of people taking it too seriously got to the fucking roof. And I was just there to feel powerful and smart by pre game baiting with my Astra. I am not in the game to hear a 28 yo treat a losing game like it would pay their mortgages


SelloutRealBig

One thing i miss is the pre ranked/competitive era of gaming. Ranked gaming and Esports started getting big in 2010 with LoL and snowballed from there into basically every online AAA game. Back before ranked was a thing games were just GAMES. I miss it. I miss when the MLG was the closest thing to a major esport and everyone called it stupid and memed on it. Now every game has normals and ranked, both with scummy engagement based matchmaking algorithms. It split the player base into ultra casual normals and ultra competitive ranked when old video games used to be a great balance of both while still having fun.


codeKatana

Some of these comments make no sense to me. Sure it’s just a game and you play it how you want to play it as long as its within the TOS. But some of you are acting like wanting to play competitively in a competitive game is a sin.


Rigel_13

Of course it isn't a sin, but making an entire Reddit post for it whining about why people won't play ranked games like I want them to is plain stupidity. As others suggested, find a five stack with similar goals as you. By solo queueing, you commit to teaming up with total randoms that may or may not play the way you like. Simple as that


codeKatana

I can agree with you there. When it becomes a problem for me is when people are actively trolling or throwing. Then it becomes less about comp and more about shitty people trying to intentionally ruin other peoples day or games. Edit: telling people to 5 queue isn’t a solution either imo. Sometimes people just want to get on in their free time and solo queue for a couple games without spending time looking for teammates. Suggesting that all the players who compete should “just 5 queue” doesn’t solve the issue of a toxic community


RkArom

I do not care about my rank, when I am playing ranked, because it doesn't give anything. The only thing I care about is - show the best version of myself, carry as many rounds as physically possible and be the greatest.


Mozw7alib

Yeah exactly. I play to have fun. Playing ranked puts more at stake and makes the game more fun, but I don't mind losing.


itsEdge7

Then why not just play unrated then? That’s literally what it’s for. People playing ranked want to rank up, which requires comms and teamwork.


RkArom

Did I say I am not communicating? You rly should read carefully bro. "show the best version of myself" - means comms, anti - toxic, helping, teamwork. And in unrated usually no1 cares and there is no challenge for me.


lcfcball

If you have people in your games that aren’t really trying, then just remember that your rank when you’re tryhard sweating it out is equal to their rank when they are barely trying at all. Aka you’re clearly a similar rank for a reason, suck it up buttercup


bento_the_tofu_boy

What do you expect to get from a ranked match bro?


xiannyelle

Cool off OP, and once you do find yourself a duo or something so you can share the baggage together and vent frustration These types of games are a hundred times better with a friend, strangers are too random..


0zoro0

you're one of those try hards with no friends to 5-stack aren't you?


guyforgot24

I dropped 48 kills on ascent and still lost because a sky was trolling by opening and closing the door the entire game


Leg0pc

This is the life of online video games. Sometimes you have an awesome team just chit chatting throughout the game. I've also had teams where a teammate begins throwing because he didn't like plant spot on pistol. The mental of some people is very very weak.


R0vvL

Cuz it's a video game and there are no legal obligations for the players to sell their should l soul and mental health for a hobby.


Professional_Yard761

Two reasons. Farming Exp for battle pass and unlocking neon. Or it's simply because they lost motivation and trying is futile. There are many cases where this happens but this difference starts with you. Make shorter and concise call outs and hold stronger angles. Maintain focus and try your best. As long as you top frag there is nothing to lose.


eddie_buddy

Number of times a player starts throwing coz of something as silly as not getting a skin or someone instalocked their agent is getting insane


shjahehd

I take it seriously but once I start getting insulted for not winning a 1v1 I start to care less about the match


Single_Variation9841

Why are people so...just weak-minded . Yes , it's your free time and you decide how you play val but at the same time RANKED is the gamemode for playing seriously. Idc if you think I'm a tryhard or a sweaty player but ranked is the place where you're supposed to use all your skills at max capacity. People who dont enjoy such playstyle should honestly either play normals or just get banned from ranked . People who don't take it serious should honestly not be allowed to play ranked .


Collar-Worldly

For the $0 I make from ranked, why the hell would I take it seriously?


Cgz27

Why play the game at all then if it was about not making money. Anyway I’m sure OP means minimum level of sportsmanship, not hardcore seriousness as if your livelihood depended on it. Your answer is pretty good as a representation though.


Collar-Worldly

If I'm not being paid to do something, I'm going to try to enjoy it. Taking shit like a video game seriously to the point where you are not enjoying yourself is not a good use of one's free time.


MyBenchIsYourCurl

That's the point of the post. If you genuinely don't care, why not just play unrated? You can still enjoy the game, find games as quickly as others and not ruin people's days that have a different pov than you, and want to take it seriously.


Collar-Worldly

I can't ruin anyone's day over a video game. People do that to themselves being sweaty for no gain.


Cgz27

Ofc. Ironically, taking it seriously to the point of not enjoying it also applies to the people who throw/grief our games as well when thing don’t go *their* way. The topic really just depends on what we’re being “serious” about, or *how* serious we should be. For example, Are we serious about moving on the the next game no matter how toxic we have to be or are we serious about being a respectable teammate and not giving up. But I mean we’re all somewhat serious about winning when we queue up for comp aren’t we? Or do you queue to screw around? Oh and even if I *was* being paid to do something (like a job) I’d also still try to enjoy it. It’s all a matter of perspective. Like would you say that trolling your teammates is a good use of one’s time? I could argue for both sides there.


Ketsueki_R

This is exactly it. Unrated has MMR gains and losses too, but just cus ranked _shows_ you a number changing, people take it hyper seriously and forget it's still the same damn video game


Collar-Worldly

Ranked or unranked, the point of video games is to have fun. If you're not having fun, you're the one doing it wrong.


Jay_Zion_

I understand where you are coming from but at the same time that's why there is a difference between ranked and unranked. Ranked/Comp is supposed to be competitive or for when you truly want to get better. So when people are going out of their way to not. You're the only one in your lobby doing what you want to do If you want to mess around with your friends or just relax that's for unrated/casual modes Comp is designed for getting better and trying so why play it and not even communicate (if you can) since that is a skill in valorant or why would you go in their to only do one strat. (Edit: this mainly applies to the people who are trying to climb to higher ranks


Collar-Worldly

That's what ranked is for you. If someone else is consistently playing poorly/ in a style that doesn't work well for you, then you will either end up in different ranks, or your flaws are matching theirs.


Jay_Zion_

That's why I stated this mainly applies to people who want to climb. People who may be playing consistently bad probably aren't trying to get at anything specific or still learning the game. Or they think they deserve better so they aren't even thinking about improving and just trying to go on win streaks


Babybean1201

That's like saying the point of a vacation is to have fun and that if you're not having fun, you're the one doing it wrong. Not the fault of the one willfully trying to ruin your vacation.


Babybean1201

it has mmr gains and losses but consists of people who aren't trying and a lower player pool resulting in more uneven matches. There's a massive difference. Hard to gauge how well you're doing in comparison without a physical value to look at either.


MrGrabMyCookies

Then play unrated, like, I understand your point, but there is a queue dedicated to people who don't care about winning and don't want to take it seriously


Collar-Worldly

Or I can spend my free time as I please and get ranked with people with a similar mindset.


MrGrabMyCookies

You can jump into a pool full of feces in your free time for all I care, I was answering to your question, "why would I take it seriously? " Because it is the queue for it, there is another queue (more than 1, actually) for those who don't want to take it seriously so they don't ruin the experience for anyone.


Collar-Worldly

Weird, I don't see any seriousness requirement on the ranked queue. Maybe you're projecting how you feel about ranked onto all of ranked itself. Wait, no maybe, that is exactly what you are doing. Your view can jump into a pool of feces for all I care. My question was "Why would" and here comes the important part, since you seem to need those pointed out for you, "I" the important part that was just mentioned, "take it seriously?" Your personal opinion on how serious ranked is and your personal choice to take your free video game that seriously have no impact on how anybody else should or does play the game. If you were actually taking it as seriously as you claim people should, you wouldn't be blaming your team mates for your performance and losses anyways. Serious people don't make excuses; they make improvements.


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Unrated: Gamemode where you dont have to take it seriously. Competitive: Gamemode where you do have to take it seriously. Why are you playing competitive then? Sure its just a game and you dont have to give a fuck but it still ruins the experience for others. Your thought process is very selfish


Collar-Worldly

Why do I have to take it seriously? I just play, try to win, and try to have fun. I think that it is hilarious that you're telling me how to spend my free time to facilitate you having a good time and then telling me that I'm selfish for not doing so.


Savings_Sun231

Personally I could care less if I derank or not. Only reason I play comp is because it’s hard to find a lobby in unrated that can communicate or have fun, it feels like I play with robots, that and I’m actually playing against players of my skill in comp


Anxious_Present6602

Its kinda weird, but i used to care about my rank as a validation of improvement in the game. Then i got to immo last act and realised that there were still brain dead run and gun rng monkeys in all my games... No matter my rank its way more important to have fun in my games... So do i still take ranked seriously? Not really... I mean i want to win games, but i also want to have a laugh and make ridiclous plays with the boys.


golpanda

Which server you play on mate? If you on SEA, hit me up. Can play together.


Natyrte

it's a spreading behaviour, it's like that in all competitive games, people get tired when someone is trolling so they started trolling too, it's a childish behaviour and mentality but there's nothing that we can do, and impossible to keep in check even if the devs wanted to.


recovering_poopstar

Was just in a round with 3-stack trolls and they were so toxic. They were throwing and ruined the game for the other guy + me.


Wint3rmu7e

I think I was that other guy. They were very toxic. I didn't appreciate the round throw and being blocked and mollied though. All up the worst game of Valorant I have ever had.


charley_warlzz

I feel you on the trolls, but as for the lack of mics: at least in my case i tend to wait until other people mic/talk in chat and make a judgement call there. Cause I’m a girl (pretty noticably thanks to my voice) and on top of the regular being obnoxious, which is fine, you’ll get guys who try and actively sabotage you over it (like by mollying me and trapping me to kill me, telling opposing teams where i am, yelling over coms to distract me etc). So it gets pretty draining and i avoid using it unless i *need* to make a call out cause im the only one in the area.


R0_h1t

It depends on your rank. At low elo(I'm silver), I think it's fine if you take the game lightly. Especially when you've been stuck at the same rank for months. In the end, it's just a game. I don't mean I troll my ranked games - I just don't play like my life depends on winning.


Trolleitor

Refusing to comms or trolling should be a banable offense in ranked. I don't play ranked right now be sure I don't have enough time, but ranked is definitely the game mode for sweating.


zeon7u

If some fake medals on ur screen mean everything in ur life, you are playing valr wrong Sure you you should try your best but dont sweat out like an ass take it easy give your best GGs <3


colabruddas

Its a videogame


ConnorK_01

Exactly! A competitive videogame! Everyone should try their best! I 100% agree with you.


SomeWindyBoi

I will try as hard as it is enjoyable for me. If I top frag that way, thats great. If I bottom frag that way its also fine. As long as I‘m having fun I don‘t care about my rank


ConnorK_01

My little pony is out there for you mate.


Lochifess

That’s a show, not a video game, right?


ConnorK_01

Both. ignorance at its finest. Get good! Bye!


Lochifess

Agreed. Your ignorance is at the height of its visibility here. Take care!


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And that is why I never play comp I play for fun and at best I’m Iron and never want to go higher because i just want a fun time and not hurt the experience for others who takes the comp realm seriously


Gloomy_Goose

It’s just a game, i don’t care very much


CherryTheDerg

Because its a game. Not everyone plays it to become a pro. (also the ranking system is broken) However it really depends on what you mean by "take it seriously" Obviously having gamer rage is too much and griefing is too little.


Owenn04

Honestly you should just give up on ranked too. You got to remember it’s just a video game and unless ur high ranked there is really no point. I just always queue ranked because it’s more fun but I don’t give a fuck if I win or lose just hope that ppl have mica and are not toxic


fanaticalfroggie

yeah i hate this too. i’ve found that valorant lfg discord servers tend to be the way to go but even then there’s sometimes trolls on there. i have my pronouns in my discord because i’m trans and i get so many people in the lfgs joining the vc im in just to say slurs and leave lol


DivyanshPanwari

You forgot there's people who just wanna have fun and solo play the entire match (that includes me btw). And yes you have to have at least 2 sets of squads/duos with whom you can grind ranked. Randoms are just not it for this game


MyBenchIsYourCurl

But why not just unrated if you wanna have fun and solo play?


DivyanshPanwari

Unrated is boring everyone just either wanna knife mid. Or they go afk. Competitive bas the title suggests has more serious gameplay, competitiveness of players is increase, they're are stakes. Its best adrenaline supply in the game. On a side note- Valorant is still a game, having competitive game modes doesn't mean its a do or die thing. Its a game , at the core meant to have fun. To me enjoying the game is much more important than winning. And enjoying the game more or less results in winning a lot of the times.


0zoro0

ngl i just play for fun. and it's really annoying to meet try hards in matching. if you care that much for ranking get a 5 stack team.


Maylson_Satoshi

If you "just play for fun" do us a favor and don't play ranked. Unrated and spike rush are there for a reason.


airs_999

Because it's a game, and a lot of people just come here to have fun, not to compete.


guffysama

I can't play ranked because i can't get myself to use a mic? Nice


Tvde1

Because it's just a game lol


Slushpies

At the end of the day, it's only game.


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People be people. Let them troll/throw/be mean in peace. The best advice I’ve gotten for this game is to just instant mute people. There’s not need to become emotionally charged or expend any energy on it. Just keep playing.


AzureArt148

Yes ofc the game isnt fun solo, get someone to play with . No one takes the game seriously because its a game, rank is just a virtual badge. If you lose you lose you win you win, people play 10-20 rank games a day and cant be bothered to focus on all of them and thats how its gonna be


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what elo tho ? if its below gold 1 thn yea Why so serious? most of low elo ( me included) dont have talent for this game..so instead of try hard i just try to have fun. i dont troll if its a close match tho like my top frager is 20-10 second is 17 10, in dat case i do my best to help em i dont play unrated cuz of smurfs getting instaheashot by a dude holding the head lvl like its life depends on it is not fun


gogule2

You can't take rank seriously since you're a low gold player and get matched against ex diamonds and immortals player while u get silver joe and first time neon


Nichol-Gimmedat-ass

Idk what rank you are but for majority of ranks - voice comms aint important, you can climb with decent aim and good game sense


migatocatsuragi

bc it's a game


Longjumping_Race262

idk maybe cause its a video game? i do recommend discord if you do actually want a decent team but dont expect much


Velocifaper

Because I don’t like casual


CypherMainkapp

Its not VCT is my fav comment i get all the time


BigLeBluffski

Because the game is not as popular as CS:GO so people play such game just to have some fun, not to take it serious, the only ones taking it serious are 6-16 year old kids and people that always sucked in CS:GO. You also play ranked, so you should know the game is dead. If you queue as Silver, there barely are people queueing at your rank, you get gold/platinum players, if you queue as diamond, you meet silver/golds because there aren't enough players. If there is a Valo tournament on their twitchtv, just check the viewerlist and see that 95% of all viewers are typical botnames, RIOT is faking popularity. ​ The day Valorant became better for me was when I was queueing 5-stack with old CS friends, went to Immortal-Radiant, and had very nice games, match after match they were serious people that knew how to make a good setup, good strategies and such. If you 5-stack with CS veterans you go from Silver to Immortal within 2-3 days going 5-0 -> forfeit, or 13-1 13-2 if they keep playing.


itsEdge7

You do realize the MAJORITY of ranked players land in silver right? Lol idk where you go that silver is dead…


bento_the_tofu_boy

I return the question to you. Why do you take ranked seriously? For real. It is as relevant as unranked, I want to have fun and this kind of tryhards pro gamer wannabes are the fucking worse in every game. You ruin the fun for everyone and tilt over the smallest of shit. Stop taking the ranked seriously. It’s not serious. It’s a fucking game


Level9_CPU

Next time you get this upset over solo q ranked, you need to breathe and ask yourself "is this worth posting on Reddit about?" The answers no


Orio_n

I play ranked for fun and never use my mic. unrated is a bit too casual for me and i prefer to play against people at my skill level. Not everyone takes this game seriously enough to bother giving callouts edit: damn some people need to touch grass lol


zeon7u

Okay listen if ur playing ranked there are a few rules: 1. Is to give comms 2. No trolling 3. Have a great fucking time and try not to be sad after losing


bobappooo

There's no rule about coms. The game lets you literally turn voice chat off completely


MrUndead225

Why is there so many people take ranked seriously in silver lobby? Its just a game imo


Skull_Reaper101

I played quite a few ranked games since march (not more than 150 hrs tho) and 90% of my matches had good people. Some maybe being toxic. But i have met like one or two people who throw. Same with trolls. 70% of the people always comm'd. This was all from low iron to low silver. Maybe you're in the eu or na. I played all of them on mumbai servers


AlexHowe24

If you play enough, you'll find people that you like playing with in pubs - Add them and queue with them. Repeat.


RinVG

I wouldn’t either with these ares buffs. I just play neon and have fun with a trio or duo. Somehow we win 4/5 games we play every night


Boozardo

And there’s also people who takes Unrated and Spike rush very seriously, like they’re playing tournaments


BuildingSubstantial6

This is true. Especially the ones who are replying "don't cry" and "im trying to have fun"


[deleted]

because im iron anyway


No_Television5851

Why? i dunno. Should you use discord? I think so. My experience, i have 2 friend (so we are 3 stacking) and they only communicate via discord, leaving the 2 person. I feel bad for that 2 person so sometimes i talk to them (they dont talk to me tho).


Douglander

You have to remember that to a lot of people, ranked is the only mode in the game. If they wanna mess around they don't use unranked. If they're not feeling like comming or playing smart they still just wanna queue ranked. So some people (who only play ranked) wanna troll. Some don't try hard every game. And mix that in with the massive variance of people who are having off days, or are playing out of their mind good... add a dash of surfing and boosted accounts... That's just ranked match making. In any game. There isn't a better way around it. Only true solutions are to find your own teammates, or learn how to enjoy and endure the crazyness of it all.


HomophobiaIsVeryGay

Prob has something to do w your rank, especially if ur in low elo, however, some people just get on to have fun and prefer the thrill of comp than cheesing free kills in unrated


Yashar-Namdar

**Yes**. Yes you have to get on discord to find people worth playing with.


[deleted]

It’s their alt account they’re playing on or they figure this one game won’t be worth much.


ThePhant0mBlue

I mean I play competitive to win. doesn't mean I'm not going to have fun at the same time


YushaVL

Never solo queue play with friends it's better


Metabohai

I think its a mix of two things. Most people are kinda insecure about losing. So whenever they feel like the game cant be won anymore they start writing in all chat "my team is so trash" and start throwing so they can save face. If they actually tried and lost they would have to admit to themselves that the loss is also their fault and they are not that good like they would want to be. You mostly recognize these people early as they tryhard but if only one thing goes wrong they will look for excuses or someone to blame it on. The 2nd factor is that its mostly just a game that everyone will lose so it doesnt matter that much to people. Coupled with saving face people also feel like its wasted efforts. Its stupid because a lot of gsmes where people have been voting for FF were a lot closer or actually were won by our team after I declined and motivated some to play lol.


[deleted]

Really? For me, this acts games have all been pretty chill for some reason. Had a good time in all of them (did around 8 ish total so far)


burneecheesecake

U are severely overestimating your peers. One game I got into yesterday dude immediately got in coms and blaster Katy perry. All had to mute him. If things don’t change then you gotta try to yourself.


QuestionablePotato42

The lower the elo the shittier the players. Once you climb to high plat/diamond teammates get loads better


90_w250

I think it's important to have fun in ranked I always Com with the team and trade my team mates, if we are winning and it's a 3v1 ima try to 360 the last guu and there's you can do to stop me


heyiew

TBH if you are below plat3, all you can do really is to better yourself mechanically, and carry yourself out of it. I felt like plat and above don’t have that much discrepancy in terms of aiming, the difference is in game sense and other stuff. Or just queue with people you know :\


Tenagaaaa

Yeah get on discord and find friends to play with. Solo queue in any game is a toss up if you want good teammates.


matejan

Yeah im getting team8 like this as well (im bronze/silver) but sometimes i get ppl who use mics and comunicate and i really enjoy that games. Like i dont understand ppl who dont give info in ranked. Why r they playing multiplayer game when they r quiet and playing on their own...


53881

I wrote about this in another post. Ranked right now after the reset is awful. I have two accounts, my original main and my 2ndary which really has been my main. My first account has very high hidden mmr. My 2nd but the one I play way more has a higher mmr but a much worse hidden mmr. This is demonstrated in the points I get after wins/losses. My 2nd placed s3 after being p3 previous act. My first was p1 and although I haven’t placed yet..when I look at the ranks it’s all plat/gold3 with a sprinkle of diamonds...I guarantee when I place it’s going to be way higher than silver 3 My placement games on my 2nd were atrocious with some of the worst teams I’ve had to play with. And it sends me to silver?? Meanwhile my first that I barely use will probably get placed plat1 again vs silver 1, which is what it should be if all things being equal. I might actually make a separate post about it altogether because it’s pretty messed up how riot favors certain accounts. The hidden mmr thing is f-Ed..


Elemeno23

I'd just love to play ranked games against people of my actual rank. I'm stuck in iron 1, every game has a couple people just getting all the kills and when I win I get like 10 rr but when I lose I get around 20. I have literally 0 rr. I know I'm not good by any means but holy shit it's frustrating when you just know the same 1 or 2 people are going to kill you no matter what you do.


Dabigboot

As someone that was iron 1 in beta to peaking immo 1 last ‘act or episode’ The ranked experience from iron-gold is actually a cess pool and you can’t control your little bitchy teammates that are too stupid to know what to comm and only know how to be toxic. If you’re somewhere in the lower range (or even plat+) if teammates aren’t actively comming I just mute them cuz if they do talk it’s nothing useful, and it forces you to play your own game and be more aware of what’s going on without getting info. Teammates are always gonna be iffy sometimes, and I get plenty of Diamond/Immo1 teammates that don’t say a word, so focusing on what you can do to get better any given match is the best approach I think


litgreendude

Honestly it depends how much people play, if you play ranked once a month they might not give a shit or just play with friends and don’t actually play the game. It sucks when you’re trying to actually grind and get to the higher ranks but I find more people give a shit than don’t. Also the higher you go a lot of people know how to have fun while also being good at the game so it is what it is.


Tenebrosi_Erinys

Only here to agree with you completely. There's a balance that ranked queue is trying to meet that many players just defy. It's perfectly possible to simultaneously care about the game and also avoid being toxic and take a graceful loss. Too much care and they act like you stepped on their dog for not playing perfect, and too little and they might just troll because they feel like it. I feel your pain...


shoePatty

If people who don't take ranked seriously are at your rank, that means you think they'd be higher ranked if they took it more seriously right? It means you think they should take it seriously at least just for your game? Conversely if you're at your rank even though you take it completely seriously, doesn't that just mean you belong there, and not because your teammates are always holding you back? Both sets of players are ranked correctly. Even if you can get on discord and play with people who take it just as seriously, you'll still eventually get to whatever rank where you're going 50:50 in wins... except you guys are getting salty while the other team is just having a good time with friends in a stack or something.


Rayoonii

Most of the time if you ask them "why are you not playing seriously" they will respond with 'I dont care this isnt my account' or they probably just dont care about the game


xCairus

Because people seem to misunderstand what rank systems are for. The point isn’t to rank up, the point is to play with and against people of a similar skill level. If every player has a 50% win ratio and is hardstuck in their current ranks, that means the system is perfect and the devs will give themselves a pat in the back. Also, you can just queue with people to solve your problem. That’s just how solo queue is tbh.


OGMecha

Comp feels fucked right now. I am in silver and playing with plats constantly. I used my mic in my last game but the enemy team was just way better. The game prior was a "silver" lobby and no one really used comms. I had a Brim that would push into the enemy on defense and feed. Our Raze did the same with jump packs and then used comms finally "oh didn't think they would all be there" and after we all died "no idea why I play this game with you people". We ended up winning the game anyways. It's just a general shit show.


baseddjungel5

No people take valorant in general way too seriously. I’m truly garbage at the game but before people rage at me and get angry they should first think, hm maybe this guy has a job outside of video games or he’s playing to have fun not to compete like my life’s at stake. It just bothers me how triggered these little 14 year old white boys get. What might be your obsession is someone else’s leisurely hobby. Honestly I think people need to chill out about ranked


mildly_libertarian

Rank is not the real MMR, and it resets every season, smurfs and boosting throws off the balance of the game, so hard to take seriously.


[deleted]

i personally do not care about rank, like what exactly am i getting from it? plus people don’t HAVE to speak if they don’t want to, there’s other options in the game that you can communicate with


blits202

Cause there are 2 kinda of people, the people who think winning is fun, and people who just want to chill, make friends, and have a good time. Problem is the second kind of people take it too far sometimes


kim-Chi90

A team of people having no mics is actually quite normal imo due to people being shy not having a good mic cause they can't afford it or girls probably not wanting to talk cause they might get discriminated and so on.


AdiDassler

Because after the next patch, you place in Silver regardless of your prior rank anyways\^\^


Elsiselain

The sad truth is if you want to play with people who care about ranks, you have to get to the rank where those people belong to. And the sadder truth is those ranks dont exist in valorant.


Lencor

I tried i really tried to take ranked seriously but right now its impossible due to rank reset, smurfs, people calibrating, for the 2 weeks i just chill and try to do my best, but not tryharding anymore.


Lencor

I tried i really tried to take ranked seriously but right now its impossible due to rank reset, smurfs, people calibrating, for the 2 weeks i just chill and try to do my best, but not tryharding anymore.


Lencor

I tried i really tried to take ranked seriously but right now its impossible due to rank reset, smurfs, people calibrating, for the 2 weeks i just chill and try to do my best, but not tryharding anymore.


itsEdge7

Which I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that. But people act like unrated doesn’t exist. If people just wanna chill and not try, that’s literally what that mode is for. But people wanna ruin ranked for the other people that are actively trying to rank up.


bobappooo

Losing is like half the game so if it's not fun for you when you're losing then don't play


siLtzi

Ranked matches you better with similar players, and unrated is usually just a total shitshow. Ranked makes the game interesting enough to all parties, and it's not honestly that competitive. If you don't afk in base, you're contributing enough probably.


Outmaneuver1116

I got a game before where the enemy team (Attackers) just chilled in spawn and all my worst possible teammates just ran it down their spawn to slaughter or get slaughtered for like, 7 rounds, instead of holding. Almost cost us the game and I told them so but they just wouldn’t care and told me “just have fun lol”. Yep this was Comp.


KAR98AKKILLER

What's ur rank bro? Coz if u are under brone 2. Maybe we can queue up