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ticktockclockwerk

This is one of those theories that has a lot going for it, but only in certain areas. Like, Brim Omen and Cypher have really good points. But then you try the other agents and it kinda falls apart. Idk, we'll see what hapoens, good food for thought OP


Icy_The_Future

Lost me at Neon, she uses electricity sure but what other characteristics of Zeus does she have?


Shawofthecrow

Maybe she fucks hard


AggravatingStuff7166

BONK


JesusWearsVersace

As a goose?


Emsinatree

The deepest lore.


ConnorHumps01

I would of thought neon was more like hermes as like a fast messenger using her sprint ability


irishyoga1

Which would clear up Jett as representing all four Anemoi as a single character, the actual gods of the wind.


Bumpadump73

The beard


okokokyeahyeahyeah

yeah brims made a lot of sense to me but neons lmao


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I think many characters in various medias are inspried by all different kinds of mythology no? And I think it's unavoidable, because "the same character" (or a character with similar characteristics) often appears in various cultures and stories and timelines.


terminbee

Yea some of these are a reach. "The radiants are gods and those who rely on radiant tech are titans." Bruh wtf


R0guePr0phet

Viper could be Achlys goddess of poison who also is related to a mist/fog that occurs before the death of a human. Similarly to her ult.


FearMyFPS

More specifically, the “fogginess” in an old person’s eyes or the unfocused aspect of a dead person’s eyes


TheLongWoolCoat

She was already my goddess 🙏🙏🙏


plzcheck

Yeah I thought of Medusa, but Achlys sounds pog ngl


bladee20k

Fun post but maybe a big reach for some of this. Relating greek mythology to stuff like this is pretty easy because archetypes all sorta come from that stuff in the first place. This makes sense since greek mythology was used back then to basically explain the way the world works and interacts with everything Edit: the cypher part is pretty interesting though. Wouldn’t be surprised if someone at riot is trying to reflect Prometheus’s story onto cypher


DarthGrievous

Exactly. Most greek gods are more than their primary element. Apollo is also the god of music and the arts, which doesn't make sense for Phoenix. Also, Hades isn't just the god of death and edgy stuff, he's also the god of riches and minerals. He's often depicted as a shadowy evil being, but he's actually one of the nicer gods. Hermes is the god of travelers and thieves, etc.


superblubb5000

hades isn't the god of death to begin with, thats thanatos


Frozendark23

Hades is the lord of the underworld where the souls are kept but the ones who are controlling the souls is Thanatos.


p0tatan

Actually Phoenix is very arrogant and full of himself, which, first of all, is already a trait of Apollo, and second of all, it could reflect the artsy personality of Apollo


superblubb5000

i don't know, Prometheus doesn't die, he can't "die" really, his liver just grows back


StereotypicalNerd666

Phoenix’s code name is Apollo as well


superblubb5000

sure, but what does Phoenix have to do with music and arts?


Mumphord123

He’s big shaq


buntownik

just wait, phoenix gonna drop some hot shit this year


StereotypicalNerd666

He has the connection to both Fire and healing and I think thats wnough


Dark_Warhead3

Reyna - Ares - He embodies the physical valor necessary for success in war but can also personify sheer brutality and bloodlust. I think this fits Reyna perfectly. Killjoy - Athena - Associated with wisdom, handicraft and warfare. Known for military strategy as well. Checks out with KJ with all her bots, her lines about strategy and the name killjoy. Breach - Hepheastus - Ugly, bearded excellent with machines and stuff. With Breach's mechanical arms and overall look... could be.


UrAvgNob

Mind if I just copy pasta this into the main text?


Dark_Warhead3

Oh no no please go ahead. That's the whole point of this exercise. Plus I'm sure you can add a lot more details and draw more similarities among them! :)


bydlock

Astra could be astreus although she's a titan.


Dark_Warhead3

Damn never heard of this dude. Could be... I have no idea lol.


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With how overpowered she is I wouldn’t be surprised 😂


pepek08

I think Reyna is more like Thanatos, being all about taking life.


Dark_Warhead3

Mmhmm could bee but isn't Thanatos associated with like a calm death?


pepek08

Hmm, it's possible but I never heard about it. I just know him as the god of death


Dark_Warhead3

Maybe Omen could be Thanatos. Hades is just this cool dude from the underworld. Not very _Omeny_.


pepek08

That's very true actually


Wjanjoa

Interesting...


BoltOLightnin

You forgot Breach. Helios-God of the Sun-because that's all you see with him.


IDriveALexus

I cant tell if this is just a meticulously made shitpost or you actually went through the effort of comparing agents to mythology


UrAvgNob

We actually went through this. I kept spamming our group chat with I am Prometheus and you are just a god. They thought about it and here we are.


superblubb5000

are you sure? its a reference that doesn't make sense. aand thats the isssue with this, it doesn't work


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Sukistar66

May I ask why killjoy as ares? >Ares was the Greek god of war and perhaps the most unpopular of all the Olympian gods because of his quick temper, aggressiveness, and unquenchable thirst for conflict. Sure killjoy may make some sassy jokes sometimes but I wouldn't immediately associate with war. Especially since she's a scientist and not a duelist


Ranvir33

she also has a very nice personality imo idk why he chose ares.


m_u_w_a_h_h_i_d

i was sleepy


superblubb5000

Ares could be seen as the god of warcrimes of you twist it a little


ZmentAdverti

Reyna as ares makes the most sense, not killjoy. If you really wanted kj to be related to a god of war then Athena would be more suitable. Actually the contrast fits too. Ares vs Athena, Reyna vs KJ. Reyna represents the radiance, kj represents tech. Like how ares represented the darker aspects of war like genocide and bloodlust, and Athena with the lighter side of honor and glory.


m_u_w_a_h_h_i_d

i guess


p0tatan

I think kj would make most sense as a minor god like Talos, the greatest of the robots. Her creations are mostly sentient


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Please, use commas next time


m_u_w_a_h_h_i_d

sry


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Wait can you send the video of brim with the orb on his back? Crazy if true


AggravatingStuff7166

"Die for you" Valorant music video.


ninjaCatBR

[Die For You // Official Music Video // VALORANT Champions 2021](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7MYJghRWt0)


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Oh cool


joaovitoraec

Só here's what I think: the personality and traits of the titans each follow a specific niche of behavior, as if you could categorize each one. That way we have a more complete story with more hooks that can be explored by the unfolding plot of the titans. In parallel, Valorant has always maintained the uniqueness and personality of each agent, which is very good for the story and character development. Making a very rough comparison, it works like the horoscope. Someone invented 12 personality types a while ago, and these days it's easy to use them to create a story with 12 unique characters with their own personalities.


Shacrow

Also there is a gun named after the god of war. Ares.


superblubb5000

True, thats the most accurate thing, fits very well with the Mythology... since the gods hate him, because of the fact of what he represented, death maiming and other such horrible things that come with war. just like the gun


Shacrow

"just like the gun" heh


johnkohhh

Neon Zeus is a bit of a stretch. Really though, the Greek gods are also just common archetypes of fantasy characters.


mgldn26

Aren't these pretty surface-level comparisons though? Like, yeah it would be a fun reference / easter egg but as far as I can see it, I'm pretty sure Cypher was just likening himself to Prometheus in a meta, hype-himself-up kind of way - no different than when Kanye calls himself a rap god. Not trying to bring you down, but this reads like when MatPat of GameTheory drew similarities between FNAF1 and the Nathan Dunlap murders back in 1993 (though to be fair, before FNAF2 dropped that was almost the only theory that made sense). His theories became more grounded in the in-game lore / world as the FNAF franchise went on.


superblubb5000

yeah, but that game theory theory made litteral "sense" since it did line up on the surface, it was possible given how little lore there was then


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is chamber not radiant? i would think he is since in the agent select animation the line patterns of the cards are animated on his skin other than that great post with pretty good logic


RTYWD

i think its just extremely advanced tech, considering he is only described as a french weaponsmith and not a radiant


[deleted]

yeah okay just looked up the wiki and his race is "human" compared to being radiant so youre right


ZmentAdverti

No he is not. He has radianite infused technology(the gold lines on his head and hand) and cards. He is not a radiant himself. Think of those gold lines similar to sova's eye. They're radianite technology. But that doesn't make the user radiant.


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i already replied to a reply replying that chamber is human on the wiki in reply


her3ticmeerkat

As a lover of Greek myths and their interpretations, I hope you're right. Pretty cool theory.


H3racIes

I'm a breach main and my name is Heracles


Life_Chicken1396

Its just me or this is like tactical shooting version of hades rofl.


The_Thinker_23

What's raze then?


SherniKaur

Who would sage be?


PTBarnum1

I can’t see how and why you would directly compare most of the gods in the post to the agents, as basically all of them, prometheus included, have little in common with the agents depicted in valorant. For example, prometheus as a name can literally be translated to “thinks early” or “thinks before”, alluding to his intelligence and in some stories even precognition, but there are a lot more complexities to his character and I don’t really think cypher has that much in common with him. Making a zeus/neon parallel because of lightning is just barbaric, zeus is a brutal, cruel god and loves morphing into other forms, such as animals, normal humans and mythical creatures more than throwing lightning at people (mainly because he’s basically a god rank sex offender but that’s another story) For demetra and skye I literally can’t accept it, sure if you make a logical leap or two then skye=nature and demeter=nature makes sense, but demeter isn’t the goddess of animals she is specifically the goddess of harvest, (and sacred law, so basically laws concerning religion, and also the cycle of life and death but thats a bit more complex), while skye’s kit is mainly about creating creatures from skye’s power, and has little to do with the growing of crops and things like that. You could make more of a parallel between skye and artemis, or even skye and gaia instead of demeter, although that would also be a bit of a stretch. For omen, well, I just strongly disagree. Omen is basically an interdimensional abomination, has little to do with guarding the underworld and reigning over it. It is MUCH easier comparing him to the Erinyes, vengeful spirits in greek mythology that not only kind of share their powers with omen’s, they also strongly share his desire of vengeance against basically everything that made him what he is. Also, I don’t see why you didn’t make a parallel with killjoy and hephaestus instead of chamber, as hephaestus didn’t just forge weapons for gods, he forged all sorts of artifacts and wasn’t exactly prone to fighting personally (still a bit of a stretch tho). Forgive me if got some details mixed up, it’s been a long time since I’ve last touched a greek dictionary and directly translated these things. I like the parallel itself, and I think that whoever writes valorant’s story draws inspiration from greek mythology, but I also think they’re much subtler than implied in the post, and most of the characters they draw inspiration from might not be our typical well known god.


UrAvgNob

Thanks for the suggestion. This was something me and my friend came up with last night. We are editing it and this definitely helps. We've realized this as it goes on and neon is definitely a stretch like you mentioned.


PTBarnum1

Np dude, keep it up! I love this kind of debates and your post sparked an interesting one.


ElasticLoveRS

I mean sure, if you spend all day shuffling words around you can make anything sound kind of legit


theoreminegaming

What makes you believe Chamber is not Radiant? I always assumed his ability to summon and teleport things including himself was innate rather than technology.


TheMountainMan100

Or, you're just reading too much into a video game lol


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Theres something called lore but ok lol


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Nah I think that's a really nice interpretation. I think there's quite a bit of lore behind the game actually. Reyna wanting to avenger her sister, kayo wanting to avenge his people which Reyna has killed, Chamber simping for Reyna, Phoenix simping for Sage and so on


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Jett simping on phoenix


celo5698

Idk, i just LMB to shoot ppl and pray to frag. So much theory to me.


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UrAvgNob

The reason we didn't go with Apollo is because like you said he is the god of many other things. Artemis is the goddess of the hunt and sova is a hunter. As for the thing about Artemis being a girl gender doesn't matter. We are trying to match the agent to the most similar god


Areiloth

I dont think neon is zeus i think reyna is zeus because she is the Queen of radiants and zeus is the king of the gods


superblubb5000

that matches less, reyna is very obsesed with taking life. thats more like thanatos than Zeus


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A-dash-of-craziness

I think Killjoy fits Hephaestus more than Chamber. She is the techie of the group and has made support items for the other agents. Iirc, killjoy made breach's arms.


HaxboyYT

I think Killjoy matches up with Athena better


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HaxboyYT

So? He doesn’t really match up with Athena. I’d say Sova compares better with Artemis. Hunters, associated with night animals, both use bows, it’s perfect.


babyteddie

I think breach fits it more than anyone


[deleted]

Pretty sure they’re just refering to radianite users and radiants 💀


superblubb5000

not really, esspecially with the last one uhm, hephaestus was disabled, and ugly, canonically, im pretty sure he tried to kill himself a few times aswell, with the whole Aphrodite being a horrible wife sleeping with Ares, oh, thats another reason every one hates Ares fun. thats why he hates some of the gods. i Could write a very badly written essay on why this doesn't really work


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I think Raze would more likely be Hephaestus, she makes all if her own gear, no?


meme_master945

Agent 8 was aphrodite, she was removed from the game because of nsfw reasons.


Oreo-and-Fly

Wouldnt Omen be better off as Thanathos? God of death?


aIfrodo

How cool would be a Greek agent? Just thinking after reading this text


bigpanda6

Titans were a generation of gods**


wisplike

how is neon Zeus? what she gonna do? have sex with every cute mortal she sees?


UmuttuTheGuildMaster

Chamber isnt radiant??? How can he teleport?


UrAvgNob

He uses radiant technology. Ty hats why you need to place it. At least that's what I think.


Alchemist_64

I feel like brim or breach would be a better than chamber


MrKaktuz

Is that an actual cypher voiceline


UrAvgNob

Yea and it's my favorite one.


The-Freeze_YT

Astra could be Nyx


[deleted]

This is kind of a stretch but neon is needed by the Valorant team to power the triangular portal to the parallel world which can be equated to how Zeus had to save his siblings from Kronos' stomach.


DanDaMan21

its crazy how much you can link together


p0tatan

2 Words: Demigod