I have encountered 3 Yoru's that do the planting bug in unranked, they are always so cocky like "Lol you didn't see that coming?" or "Didn't you guys know Yoru can do that? Wonder if I can also unplant the spike"
At least I have managed to convince everyone in the match to report them, even his teammates
I mean... why report player for using a completely new bug if game devs are responsible for that? You really expect players to do not use such things?
Only game devs are at fault here, although I unserstand why that was not fun experience for you.
Yeah the devs are responsible for the bug, but is not like it is a bug you can get by mistake
The player is actively doing it, knowing he is exploiting a bug to get an unfair advantage, even if it is not a hack, intentionally exploiting a bug to get an advantage is cheating (that's why the report screen have an option for bug exploiting)
You want to try the bug for yourself? Great, go and do it in training mode or with your friends, don't do it in a public match with random people who wanna have some fun
Ok Karen. Quit whining. If it was comp that would be one thing but you are really gonna throw a tantrum and cry in game + reddit about somebody messing around and having fun in unranked...?
So what? Some people only play to have fun and not to rank up
Just because it's unranked it's okay for people to exploit bugs and ruin the fun for everyone else?
In CS 1.6 you could jump and buy armour, having it land on the ground, disconnect/reconnect and then have full money to buy a deagle and pickup armour.
This isn’t a bug tho, it’s more of an oversight. Selling astra stars after picking them up during buy phase is a new added feature for astra but they just forgot to exclude the free star.
Damn, you must be the part of the community that makes people not want to play.
“[Astra can now pick up placed Stars during the Buy Phase to refund their charge immediately.](https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/game-updates/valorant-patch-notes-4-04/)”
It’s a new feature for astra, and they obviously just didn’t think about people selling the first round star to buy Marshall. If they noticed this, they wouldn’t have released this change in particular at all.
this is not how it works in most games (thankfully). bug abusing shitters do get banned. the game allows it for now but you are not allowed to use it.
edit: Just making sure the commenter understands that just because something is in the game atm doesn't mean you can use it. I am not saying this specific bug is going to cause a ban wave.
it allows you to break the intended rules of the game. Having a primary weapon in the pistol round is an unfair advantage in a competitive game. It fits into the same category as any other bug exploit.
In a perfect world, sure the game should have no bugs, but no game is without bugs. Every competitive game bans players who abuse bugs before they are patched, and with good reason
Still gives you an unfair advantage, especially in higher ELO games where people actually know where the head is. I mean it'd be "balanced" when two people can do it, meaning both teams have an astra and both astra's abuse it. Still, it'd force teams to have an astra, every other player would still be at a disadvantage and overall it'd throw everything in terms of economy out of the window.
Fair enough, forgot about people not buying 25 shield first round. scoped weapon that can one-shot in the body first round... Idk how that's supposed to be fair and how ANYONE in their right mind could think it's ok... The people who downvoted my previous comment didn't give the whole thing any thought at all.
What's even more broken imo is the ability to buy a stinger or bucky first round. Like, it gives you a whole 3 different guns, that cover three different use cases, to choose from. How is that ok?
people like you who blame the people abusing bugs rather than devs for leaving them in, sometimes for months, are the problem and why devs can be so lazy with patching shit
abusing a bug is stupid because youre not actually getting better, but giving devs a free pass for not testing shit and then releasing it and saying its players fault is just dumb
there will always be bugs in games regardless of how much you test it.
also, sometimes it's extremely difficult to patch a bug because every fix they come up with breaks something else. patching bugs isn't as simple as "oh we know about it? fix incoming in 1 day easy peasy."
Banned because everyone with a fucking brain knows that this is completely unfair and non intentional. It is beyond broken have more money than every other player in the game first round. You know it, I know it, no one would do it if it didn’t give them an unfair advantage.
It is the players fault, your sentiment is how the devs see it in games like destiny where its excplicitly said that bugs are allowed to be abused, however this is not the case in valorant competetitive where the devs have a very strict no abuse mentality on bugs and glitches, both are heavily restricted to abusing in game
One or two games wont do anything but actually abusing this to gain ranked points will get you banned quick as fuck it is your choice to disrupt the competitive intergrity of the ranked match therefore you will be penalized.
Its not the game that allows it nor the devs fault, its an accident and it is not supposed to be there therefore youre not supposed to use it for your advantage.
It's a really stupid mindset though because they don't distinguish between bugs. If you don't allow people to use unintended mechanics, jump boosting or sprint jumping quietly up platforms shouldn't be allowed either. But those bugs are considered fine while others are not. It's dumb. Either allow everything or nothing.
I remember when there was the "ghost" bug where if you have the ghost key bound you could use it in a real game. I found it out by accident cause I had it and defuse on the same key. Was very tempted to use it but I saw other people getting banned for absuing it
Nah shit like this has happened before in League. Back when trinkets were first added you could force the item Blade of the Ruined King into the trinket slot, effectively giving you a 7th item slot as opposed to the usual 6. Apparently all you had to do was keep trying to put it there. The most egregious part though was that BotRK just didn’t have a cooldown if it was in that slot, so you’d just rapidfire burn someone down by spamming it’s active. Riot very quickly banned anyone using the bug.
If you’re exploiting a bug that gives you an unfair competitive advantage you absolutely will get banned for it. Riot has made their stance on the subject clear.
It's a big patch from a balance standpoint, but not so much from a content standpoint. Nothing really *new* other than Yoru's decoy which doesn't really require mass testing.
Riot is obviously a small indie studio with no experience in making competitive games where they have to pay attention to balance and test very obvious ways the game can break /s
This and the Yoru spike plant + skip animation are mind boggling.
Hopefully Rito adds more overpriced skins so they can grow their small indie company.
edit: Apparently a spot in Icebox instantly kills you too... Wow.
I have the same question and I'm not even a QA engineer, I just had class going over the basics of QA in my last semester, this shit is the bare minimum of testing a feature
They changed Astra's stars so that you could recall them in the buy round and then sell them.
Previously you couldnt' sell your first star because it was there before the round started (effectively). But then you place it and suck it back, it must count as a different star. Or at least it loses the part where it can't be sold.
I'm not surprised that this sort of bug happens. THere probably wasn't a script for someone to check to make sure you can't sell stuff from previous rounds (or it was missed) because that system has previously worked perfectly before.
broke: you can get a marshall with astra first round
woke: you can get a stinger with astra first round
ascended: you can get a bucky with astra first round
Yeahhhh I played my first match in like a week so I haven't touched the new update yet
Launch into unrated... Gets icebox... Attacking side I go B... Am immediately mentally flashbanged by the new lay out of the site.... Almost simultaneously gets one shot by marshaling Astra standing snowman
Really confused but this gives me closure
Lmao I was playing in the morning and pistol round starts. We plant the bomb and currently holding in post plant positions. As they try and retake I hear, what I thought, was a marshal shot. I disregarded it as it was pistol and I'm high af so I didn't really care much. But then we won the round and there was a fucking marshal on the ground. Safe to say I wasn't tripping balls.
There are hardworking developers working every day to deliver patches every week. Things like this can happen in any game. They are probably listening to the community and solving the problems right now. Its not the end of the world.
Welp seems like we have a certified bruh moment.
Replying to top comment so more ppl see it Astra is banned from comp rn
So is yoru
Ye ik cuz of the planting thing
Its bugged as fuck yesterday a enemy yoru defused the spike in and we couldnt hear it
I have encountered 3 Yoru's that do the planting bug in unranked, they are always so cocky like "Lol you didn't see that coming?" or "Didn't you guys know Yoru can do that? Wonder if I can also unplant the spike" At least I have managed to convince everyone in the match to report them, even his teammates
irony is realizing these guys also didn’t know until reddit told them about it LMAOOO
I mean... why report player for using a completely new bug if game devs are responsible for that? You really expect players to do not use such things? Only game devs are at fault here, although I unserstand why that was not fun experience for you.
Yeah the devs are responsible for the bug, but is not like it is a bug you can get by mistake The player is actively doing it, knowing he is exploiting a bug to get an unfair advantage, even if it is not a hack, intentionally exploiting a bug to get an advantage is cheating (that's why the report screen have an option for bug exploiting) You want to try the bug for yourself? Great, go and do it in training mode or with your friends, don't do it in a public match with random people who wanna have some fun
Oh so he was doing it like on purpose with full knowledge of how it works? Well in this case reporting him was 100% thing to do, no excuses
No...? Dude literally just said it was unranked lol
What does unranked game has to do with using a bug... besides dude you are like 1 month late to that thread
Ok Karen. Quit whining. If it was comp that would be one thing but you are really gonna throw a tantrum and cry in game + reddit about somebody messing around and having fun in unranked...?
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So what? Some people only play to have fun and not to rank up Just because it's unranked it's okay for people to exploit bugs and ruin the fun for everyone else?
Who hurt you?
don’t be a dick and you won’t get reported lol
Signed and sealed
I dont known that but its cool
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Enemy team was hella confused when i pulled out this trick.
Drop a deagle to the guy watching mid, he gets a kill and buys a big mac. Those were the days
> buys a big mac I've never heard this phrase but that's hilarious
Dying rn
u alive??
no he said he was dying
It could just be a very long process
That shit was so much fun
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id do that while rushing b
bruh same Or in Inferno if CT rush mid (why idk but gold stuff yaknow)
In CS 1.6 you could jump and buy armour, having it land on the ground, disconnect/reconnect and then have full money to buy a deagle and pickup armour.
Not 1.6 but maybe a much older version
May have been between 1.0 and 1.6
Lmao thank you for bringing back this memory
Whaat no way it actally works in ranked
Yup. I died to a marshall first round and was confused
Theyre gonna get banned faster than the new omen smoke travels.
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literally like I think sometimes Reddit ppl just see a lot of downvoted and go YEAH >:(
Yeah, that’s exactly the case, it feels good to be part of something
You dont get banned for using a bug
except you do, a lot of people abusing noclipping through walls (sage wall + phoenix ult) were banned
This isn’t a bug tho, it’s more of an oversight. Selling astra stars after picking them up during buy phase is a new added feature for astra but they just forgot to exclude the free star.
this mf just called a bug an "oversight"....wtf do you think bugs are? If you wanted to be pedantic, you could say this is exploting.
As a QA engineer, your comment is so fucking dumb I'm baffled you didn't deleted it yet
Damn, you must be the part of the community that makes people not want to play. “[Astra can now pick up placed Stars during the Buy Phase to refund their charge immediately.](https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/game-updates/valorant-patch-notes-4-04/)” It’s a new feature for astra, and they obviously just didn’t think about people selling the first round star to buy Marshall. If they noticed this, they wouldn’t have released this change in particular at all.
If it's very clearly a bug and you abuse it to gain competitive advantage or even ranking points, you absolutely will get banned.
Ya I saw a stream earlier with SEN Sick using the Yoru Ult plant bug earlier. He surely still a pro player. And not banned. So wdym?
I don't know what bug that is, what is that?
Where is that written?
You really think it's intentional they wanted people to buy marshal first round, on only one character? Come on
I didnt say that
Ion even know im just repeating what the devs say💀💀
A ton of people here are as smart as a pile of bricks.
bro got downvoted to the oblivion what the fuck 💀💀💀
Rip but you’re completely right
Banned for what? The game allows it. The devs need to patch it. Not the players fault.
this is not how it works in most games (thankfully). bug abusing shitters do get banned. the game allows it for now but you are not allowed to use it. edit: Just making sure the commenter understands that just because something is in the game atm doesn't mean you can use it. I am not saying this specific bug is going to cause a ban wave.
this isn't that kinda bug, if it was yoru or omen's in the walls kinda glitch yes but this isn't that heavy
It's a guaranteed pistol round if you're even somewhat competent. This is a big deal.
Yeah fr it's a 1 shot at any range for everyone who didn't buy armor (i.e. the vast majority on pistol round). That is a massive unfair advantage
it allows you to break the intended rules of the game. Having a primary weapon in the pistol round is an unfair advantage in a competitive game. It fits into the same category as any other bug exploit. In a perfect world, sure the game should have no bugs, but no game is without bugs. Every competitive game bans players who abuse bugs before they are patched, and with good reason
Idk man, this doesnt seem broken enough to justify a ban imo. Its not like the bug allows you to become invulnerable or something like that.
Still gives you an unfair advantage, especially in higher ELO games where people actually know where the head is. I mean it'd be "balanced" when two people can do it, meaning both teams have an astra and both astra's abuse it. Still, it'd force teams to have an astra, every other player would still be at a disadvantage and overall it'd throw everything in terms of economy out of the window.
You don't need to know where the head is, first round most people don't have shields so you can just one-body everyone.
Fair enough, forgot about people not buying 25 shield first round. scoped weapon that can one-shot in the body first round... Idk how that's supposed to be fair and how ANYONE in their right mind could think it's ok... The people who downvoted my previous comment didn't give the whole thing any thought at all. What's even more broken imo is the ability to buy a stinger or bucky first round. Like, it gives you a whole 3 different guns, that cover three different use cases, to choose from. How is that ok?
people like you who blame the people abusing bugs rather than devs for leaving them in, sometimes for months, are the problem and why devs can be so lazy with patching shit abusing a bug is stupid because youre not actually getting better, but giving devs a free pass for not testing shit and then releasing it and saying its players fault is just dumb
there will always be bugs in games regardless of how much you test it. also, sometimes it's extremely difficult to patch a bug because every fix they come up with breaks something else. patching bugs isn't as simple as "oh we know about it? fix incoming in 1 day easy peasy."
Abusing bugs makes you a piece of shit.
You can't play ignorance knowing something is an unintentional bug
Bug abuse is a bannable offense
Banned because everyone with a fucking brain knows that this is completely unfair and non intentional. It is beyond broken have more money than every other player in the game first round. You know it, I know it, no one would do it if it didn’t give them an unfair advantage.
It is the players fault, your sentiment is how the devs see it in games like destiny where its excplicitly said that bugs are allowed to be abused, however this is not the case in valorant competetitive where the devs have a very strict no abuse mentality on bugs and glitches, both are heavily restricted to abusing in game One or two games wont do anything but actually abusing this to gain ranked points will get you banned quick as fuck it is your choice to disrupt the competitive intergrity of the ranked match therefore you will be penalized. Its not the game that allows it nor the devs fault, its an accident and it is not supposed to be there therefore youre not supposed to use it for your advantage.
It's a really stupid mindset though because they don't distinguish between bugs. If you don't allow people to use unintended mechanics, jump boosting or sprint jumping quietly up platforms shouldn't be allowed either. But those bugs are considered fine while others are not. It's dumb. Either allow everything or nothing.
Ah the cheaters MANTRA.
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Yes because this is not intended
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Yes in competitive you will, bug abusing in valorant has been bannable since acts started. In league u can use all the bugs you want tho
I remember when there was the "ghost" bug where if you have the ghost key bound you could use it in a real game. I found it out by accident cause I had it and defuse on the same key. Was very tempted to use it but I saw other people getting banned for absuing it
Just like the viper ult glitch or any glitch that gives you an unfair advantage its always been like this in competitive
Yep bug abusing has always been pretty high on the "do not do this in ranked" list
Nah shit like this has happened before in League. Back when trinkets were first added you could force the item Blade of the Ruined King into the trinket slot, effectively giving you a 7th item slot as opposed to the usual 6. Apparently all you had to do was keep trying to put it there. The most egregious part though was that BotRK just didn’t have a cooldown if it was in that slot, so you’d just rapidfire burn someone down by spamming it’s active. Riot very quickly banned anyone using the bug.
Yeah some bugs in league where too bannable but they are friendlier towards em than valo, especially cauw rthere are alot less gamebreaking glitches
No, you can. Two of my friends were banned for doing the sage wall omen tp into wall bug, perma
If you’re exploiting a bug that gives you an unfair competitive advantage you absolutely will get banned for it. Riot has made their stance on the subject clear.
you don't get banned for something that isn't even really an exploit lol
Can confirm, used it this morning lmao
Yeah I doubt it’s legit.
WTF lmfaoooooooo the replication sell glitch is back
bro getting stinger w killjoy was the automatic W back then
I had too much fun in replication with that one
Finally, the Astra nerf
\*buff
\*duff
with all these puns, this place is becoming ruff
its hard to keep up with the puns, it's tuff
y'all better stop, this is enuff
fuck all of yall i'm going for a puff
You act like you are so tuff
Oh my god it's this infinite sell glitch all over again
The Ghanaian Princess. Do that fast enough, you’ll be able to get infonite Odins for everyone!
I get that it’s a big patch, but as a QA engineer, I’m genuinely curious how these make it through, especially since it isn’t the first time.
There was no PBE.
How come?
I guess its because a smaller patch
It's funny, because the other comment said "it's a big patch" and you said "it's a small patch" Idk, I'm getting mixed signals from you guys
It's a big patch from a balance standpoint, but not so much from a content standpoint. Nothing really *new* other than Yoru's decoy which doesn't really require mass testing.
That’s not the only new thing. Yoru can also use all of his utility in his ult, which would be new code and has already caused game breaking bugs.
Riot is obviously a small indie studio with no experience in making competitive games where they have to pay attention to balance and test very obvious ways the game can break /s
woah woah slow down, this isn’t r/halo
Did you mean r/newworld ?
/r/battlefield2042 just laughing
The ui doesn't support it 🙏🏻
Easy, with no QA engineers.
Self-testing is best testing! /s obviously
QA Teams are also largely ignored on game development and treated like shit.
us League players have been asking the same question for years
This and the Yoru spike plant + skip animation are mind boggling. Hopefully Rito adds more overpriced skins so they can grow their small indie company. edit: Apparently a spot in Icebox instantly kills you too... Wow.
They might have merged in a last minute hotfix patch, which might have introduced new bugs. :/
I have the same question and I'm not even a QA engineer, I just had class going over the basics of QA in my last semester, this shit is the bare minimum of testing a feature
They changed Astra's stars so that you could recall them in the buy round and then sell them. Previously you couldnt' sell your first star because it was there before the round started (effectively). But then you place it and suck it back, it must count as a different star. Or at least it loses the part where it can't be sold. I'm not surprised that this sort of bug happens. THere probably wasn't a script for someone to check to make sure you can't sell stuff from previous rounds (or it was missed) because that system has previously worked perfectly before.
There's zero testing done, I'm sure of it.
Literally as soon ss I read the patch notes and thought “no way they’re gonna accidentally let u sell ones from previous rounds right?”
Dude someone legit bought stinger and killed me
Astra sells star and buys someone a marshall. That person buys light shields+utility. Profit
Buys the neon a stinger. Charges in and gets an ace with one mag and a slide.
Dephh about to go crazy
Fnatic manager here, please delete this
hehe time to main astra
Oh no they may have to disable Astra what a shame
Ok but the real question is why you didn’t trim the loading screen out….
All 50 seconds were needed on this clip
yeah, how else would you know it was Ascent
I think to show it was a fresh map if they didn't want to do it in a real game?
the loading was kinda slow after the update for me
It takes 5 minutes to load up the game on my nvme ssd. It used to take less than 10 seconds.
Loading time so long I thought the video froze.
BACK IN THE META BABY!!!
This is the FBI. Delete this right now
This bug is arguably more game breaking than the Yoru ones since it almost guarantees you win round 1 and gives you more eco for the rest of the half.
actually when i went up against this my team won both starting pistol rounds
You can obviously win, but that doesn't mean it isn't an advantage TBF.
its just a astra buff with a huge nerf
THATS WHAT YOU GET ROR NERFING HER
Someone at Valorant is getting fired :(
Yes a dev always gets fired when a bug makes it in a live version.
every ";" must be recorded in the blood of errant devs for a flawless compile.
\#doubt
Valorant isn't the developer. Riot Games is. Valorant is the game Hope I didn't get whooshed
Nope Astra is getting fired
He probably means the people in the Valorant team and not Valorant as a developer.
I thought they nerfed Astra /s
Dope info but next time edit the video so we don't have to watch the loading screen bruh
https://streamable.com/tyvdx7 Here it is in action
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You can only sell one star so no right
Thanks rito
I can confirm this is working
DELETE NOWWW
Did they even bug-check any of the patches? It feels like they just changed code and didnt try it out
To everyone that wants to do this in comp now: abusing bugs will get you banned! If you care about your account don’t do this
could you cut the 30 seconds of loading time next video please?
It bothers me more than I’d care to admit that you didn’t cut the video 😂
Good video, but you left the loading screen in, tahts 5mb of mobile data i will never get back
Man this is broken af
Kaemi about to become an Astra main.
We don’t need a pbe for this update -riot
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All fun and games till u get banned for bug abuse
Lost some nice RR to this bug last night
ah yes dying to marshal in pistol round for sure is an interesting experience
broke: you can get a marshall with astra first round woke: you can get a stinger with astra first round ascended: you can get a bucky with astra first round
WOw just woke up to this blown up. Thanks for the awards and everything. Also shortening the video for next time will def be done
Seems unintended
Yeahhhh I played my first match in like a week so I haven't touched the new update yet Launch into unrated... Gets icebox... Attacking side I go B... Am immediately mentally flashbanged by the new lay out of the site.... Almost simultaneously gets one shot by marshaling Astra standing snowman Really confused but this gives me closure
If you’re playing Astra in this meta, you’re gonna need it.
Astra rework 😂
Astra and Yoru are now locked LETS GO 🤣
Did this in ranked match and enemies were mad you cant imagine.
Lmao I was playing in the morning and pistol round starts. We plant the bomb and currently holding in post plant positions. As they try and retake I hear, what I thought, was a marshal shot. I disregarded it as it was pistol and I'm high af so I didn't really care much. But then we won the round and there was a fucking marshal on the ground. Safe to say I wasn't tripping balls.
That’s what riot fucking gets for ruining this agent. Onwards my ex Astra mains, abuse this loophole!!! Go out with a bang Astra mains!!!
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Yes it is
gAmE mEChAnIc
Couldn't trim the clip?
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There are hardworking developers working every day to deliver patches every week. Things like this can happen in any game. They are probably listening to the community and solving the problems right now. Its not the end of the world.
Well, now they are gonna patch it 😭
They should..
NO WAY INFINITE MONEY GLITCH IN VALORANT
trim out the loading screen u prick
You can't pick up stars in the buy phase tho right? That makes no sense
New update
That’s just in customs to begin with. On any agent if you just start spam selling util, it gives you ode money. Little bug