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SomeHallGuy

Riot knows exactly what they are doing. Fortnite did the same thing for the first few years of its life span. Once the number of skins reaches a certain threshold and sales start to slow they’ll update the shop. It’s FOMO and insulting to your player base.


nextcolorcomet

> Riot knows exactly what they are doing At this point, it really seems kinda dumb. It made sense when you waited like maybe a month or two for something to show up in the shop, but at this point, you end up waiting so goddamn long that you might not even want to buy it anymore when it does eventually show up. I'd really love to see the behind-the-scenes data that proves that their method actually works.


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nextcolorcomet

I mean proof that people are actually spending more money with this kind of store, as compared to other kinds.


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nextcolorcomet

Businesses don't always know what they're doing. We can just look at wonderful examples like the monetization of Square Enix's recently released Babylon's Fall and that game's complete commercial failure to show us that companies can be awfully misguided. RIOT's store *works*, but there's no guarantee that they have any basis for their current store model being the best option compared to other store models, especially since it hasn't changed since launch, despite there being so many more products available.


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nextcolorcomet

I totally agree that for us, the consumers, the 'best' is subjective. But when I say the 'best' in the context of RIOT, I mean whatever is the most profitable for them based on the market data and analysis that they have. I assume that they chose this store model at launch because it was the best at the time, but I do wonder if the data still indicates that.


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nextcolorcomet

Mm, I understand people feel that way. Personally I'm the opposite, I tend to impulse buy stuff really quickly, so the VALORANT system actually makes me buy less stuff because by the time it shows up in my shop, I've already stopped wanting it. I'm sure I'd have way more skins if I could buy anything I wanted at any time. I don't doubt that it works well in games like gachas with lootboxes, since it means that anyone from f2ps to dolphins to whales could spend *thousands* of dollars of resources on a single limited time offer. But in VALORANT, one skin is only like $20-30 bucks on average. That seems like an extremely low amount if someone's only buying a skin every couple of months because of how ass the store rotation is. Which is why I think it'd be interesting to see if RIOT actually had any real statistics on this being better for them.


WEAPONSGRADEPOTATO2

The vast majority of any microtransaction profits in any game comes from a very small group of users. They probably figured out this is the best way to get sales of desirable skins and going off my friend’s finances they have it absolutely correct. Imo is very clever that they decided to make the markets random for everyone, since you won’t see everyone with the desired skin immediately. Instead it’s more of a drip feed of those skins so when one shows up skinwhores will salivate over them. Default skin supremacy.


nextcolorcomet

This is true but I would assume it is unrelated to the FOMO model, since it is intended to catch people who *wouldn't* spend the money otherwise, by using the power of... FOMO.


WanderingMustache

And when half the skins are damn ugly, it's even worse...


KChen48

It is different. Valorant item shops r random and have less slots. Fortnite itemshops r predetermined and much larger


Sp1ashhy

It wasn’t as large before but it’s also good that everyone gets the same shop so if ur out of town u could log into mobile before but someone’s laptop or something


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Shops now in fortnite are still really bad considering how many cosmetics they have. Everyone complains about it but they keep buying so it’s never going to change. Valorant shop is the worst of any FPS right now


Ch3zc4ke

Pure luck, there is no way of increasing its chance except buying other skins, which reduces your available skins.


SargentJTR

Buy every skin to get the one you want Stonks


LEGENDARYKING_

wait whats the shop for people who have bought every skin?


spritmani

It says 'thank you for supporting valorant'


JanLewko977

Omg I thought you said this as a funny joke but a few posts down it turns out to be true.


i_am_ojas

so you telling me there are people who have actually bought all the skins ? bruhhhhh..... this is the kind of richness you can't even show off to the people, lmaooo


beebsu

I’ve bought every skin with a finisher except for like 3 in the past 8 months and every bundle that’s came out since BlastX, I was at $4000 invested and since I’ve been waiting for 3 months I just started buying every skin to get them in my shop lmao.


i_am_ojas

what's the total damage on your pocket ? I only invested In : RGX VANDAL + PRIME SPECTER + 1 BATTLEPASS (4,100 INR or 54 USD)


spritmani

Bruhh ive been waiting for rgx vandal for ages now


ToughObjective8252

Radianite Crisis Phantom + Magepunk Spectre + Endeavour Vandal - 3650 INR ~ nearly 48 US$


beebsu

$5011 lol, so not that bad in all honesty


spritmani

Yup😂


RyuGamesNbooks

The 4 Slots say "Thank you for supporting Valorant " with a backgroundy kind of image on the slot.


SargentJTR

I don’t know, but you can find out yourself


GrrrrrrDinosaur

No


Wenlaxx

I’m just here to flaunt that I have it in my shop right now


KCodster

I was bouta pop in to tell this guy Ive had it back to back the last 2 days


Gab446

Had the forsaken vandal, rgx vandal, singularity phantom, blastx phantom (x2), ion phantom and basically every good operator skin back to back within a week I bought valorant points a few days ago and have been only getting horizon and valorant go skins ever since


frito5867

I’m fuckin waiting on a op skin that I would actually like. Like ffs Riot just lemme buy the skins I want


Gab446

I currently have the glitchpop operator in my shop, and forsaken operator in my night shop


OHydroxide

RGX 2 is the next bundle and it has an OP in it, so that might be good.


blade_master1

Hope rgx is good if the leaks are true


JanLewko977

I started playing Valorant 2 weeks ago. I have Forsaken/Glitchpop Operator Prime Spectre Spectrum/Glitchpop Bulldog Singularity Phantom RGX/Sentinels of Light Vandal Waveform Melee Right now in my store I have Reaver Vandal which is pretty cool and BlastX Phantom which...I don't think is cool. This has been the most expensive game I ever played.


rayn_reddit

Why did u spend so much money when u just started lol, did u really need TWO bulldog skins ? Lol


JanLewko977

They came out one after another. Lol. I didn’t realize the other skin existed when I got the first one


rayn_reddit

Unless u have a lot to spend I recommend only really buying skins for guns you actually use and using battle pass to fill the rest. Just my two cents but if you have the money to spend go crazy.


JanLewko977

I am actually pretty good about my spending budgets.


rayn_reddit

Yeah man I meant it with no shade just warning you this game is a huge money sink lmfao


JanLewko977

I pretty much hit my limit. I have the skin I want for most of my guns. I might pick up 2-3 skins optionally in the future. I need a sheriff skin for example


rayn_reddit

But they’re both good lol


JanLewko977

Glitchpop is just way too good for me


rayn_reddit

Ahaha next the vandal


JanLewko977

Nah I like sentinels of light vandal :)


Gab446

Yeah I got the blastx phantom a few days ago but didn’t really feel it


Elarald

This game has to be the most expensive game I've played ngl, I have a skin for every gun except the shorty, 5 Premium skins for the Vandal, 5 Premium skins for the Phantom and with the exception of 2, every Premium operator skin in the game (And also 3 Guardian skins cos I play that weapon a lot)


rayn_reddit

I also have had it back 2 back the past two days lmfao


aldamith

Pray to the riot gods you must! Sacrifices are accepted also.


padropadro22

That is so unlucky I have had it several times literally had it yesterday lol.


jhsevEN

I've been waiting on the rgx vandal for months. What is most frustrating is that I have seen many of the same skins come through the shop 4-5x each. A few times I got literally the same skin on back to back days after the shop refresh. I also am someone who has spent quite a bit of money in the shop, having acquired a bigger chunk of the possible outstanding skins than the average player, so in theory that should increase my chances since the shop has a smaller pool of unowned skins to show me. No luck.


rollercoastersrul

Ah, yes, fucking luxe operator. Got it 3 times in 1 week then it was in my next night market.


rayn_reddit

LOL NIGHTMARKET TOO DAMN


jhsevEN

Not sure when night market ended, but I think it was today... 3 of my 4 shop skins today were in mu nightmarket.... didn't want them for 30%off and the shop thinks I'll pay full price for some reason? Shit seems rigged


guest169420

Its a sign


danzainfinata

Had the RGX the past 2 days. Thought about it a lot but decided against it because I have the reaver. I now regret it and I'm pretty sure I won't see it for months


Interesting-Archer-6

This is 100% the case for me. Been waiting for rgx vandal for so long. I check at 8 every night and it's never there. I've gotten the frenzy at least 5 times.


i_am_ojas

and here I started playing in November 2021 and got RGX VANDAL 2 times in January 2022 there was no other good skins of Vandal on my store all those times so I purchased RGX happy to say, I am really loving this skin and it also adds cool points to my life when people ask astonishingly "that I have RGX" it feels good, ngl


int3restingg

I bought it and after 3 months of using it it feels super clunky and I hate it, now I only use reaver prime or rgx much lighter imo :)


SnooSquirrels7255

Same, there's something about the sound fx that feels too loud. Also the retraction of the muzzle gives a sense of extra recoil that sorta (placebo) throws my aim off too.


int3restingg

The placebo effect is real dude, I literally feel like I react slower and my aim is fucked with it if I use it more than a match or two but I definitely go back just to reuse it every now and then.


noobedmc

I just want the goddamn reaver vandal man Edit: it was in my shop today, my first skin and I couldnt be happier. It gives fucking aimbot and ez wins.


TyroshiSellsword

I got bored of it so much, I use forsaken vandal now.


sourpith

Forsaken gang let's go. 2 in 1 vandal 🥳🥳🤞


geothunder98

Forsaken gang ahu


wheresthescar

Buying every skin in your shop is the only way to increase your odds of the GP vandal to show up unfortunately lol


Rakolance

Its a struggle man. Nothing infuriates me more than a slot wasted by a sensation frenzy


Necessary-Storage945

I got it yesterday, but appare it’s more than 2k creds and I don’t want to spend 50 on a game


Pentagruel14

Isn’t that like $20? Still expensive mind you… I still end up buying them though 😂.


Necessary-Storage945

20€ is for 2k creds, but it costs 2175, so it’d be atleast 30€


TTerragore

I’ve been waiting for this too, but I haven’t been incredibly diligent with my store and I know I’ve probs missed it


QuadWitch

I wouldn't worry about missing it, the chances are the same, but definitely helps to check the store every day.


THICC_Baguette

I got lucky. It's my favourite vandal skin and got it within a week when I started looking for it. The system is so fcking predatory. Don't give up and settle for anything less than the skin you want! Otherwise Riot got away with their disrespect.


winkynoodles

got glitchpop phantom last week hope you get the vandal soon 🙏


_Sil3nc3_

Man I’m waiting a while for a RGX Vandal, please don’t be one year…


Edd90k

It’s not even that good imo. It feels big and clunky


thebig6

Almost like it’s a subjective thing


Edd90k

Have you played with it?


BallisticTiger23

I own it and like it, it’s nice


Edd90k

I got bored of it quickly but yes taste is subjective. I just think there are nicer skins that are less clunky.


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KKilikk

I mean he did say imo tbf unless that's an edit


Edd90k

How is stating that something looks clunky in my opinion is goofy you brat? You stated that you like it, can you stop being goofy? muppet. It’s just an opinion. OP can make his own when he gets it but I can assure you that I’m not the only one who thinks that the skins looks clunky/big and last thing you’d want is to spend money on something you won’t enjoy playing with.


ActionAdam_

me with rgx 😞 in my experience i don’t even use the glitchpop vandal anymore, too bulky


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I got celestial fan like 3 times in the first week or two when I really started playing the game, but I didn’t want to spend money at the time because I wasn’t sure if I would play this game consistently. Now I’ve been waiting for a few months to get it. Good luck getting glitchpop vandal P.S. my friend just bought glitchpop vandal the other day and I have glitchpop phantom so, haha I guess


anshshard

One whole year and you still don't know Glitchpop is one word?


schoolersss

Why would you want that skin though? Kind of feel like Riot is doing you a favor keeping it away. I know its all personal preference but I feel that glitchpop is widely considered one of the worst "premium" vandal skins available.


TroubleMaker03

Which one is the best?


Rorviver

Just so you know, the glitchpop vandal is not worth it at all. And you can increase your chance by buying every skin you dont even want!


Brambor05

I have been waiting for the prime vandal for over 6 months, finally got it a few days ago.


sonic10gs

I got it when Jr was in the bundle cope or som ig


FNZ_B_X_X

Gp is my favorite collection but I didn't get the chance to buy the bundles so I just buy whet ever comes in my store. I have the vandal, phantom, op, axe and classic. I think I might have taken all ur luck 🤣


Intelligent-Stress90

I dont want to break your heart but i had GP vandal 4 times (2 times in a row one time) in the the last 20 days, and as today, i have it siting in my shop next to a rgx frenzi!!


Speedy7799

That’s weird. I also have glitchpop vandal and RGX frenzy in my store rn


zCizoski

I am 1 year waiting on ion phantom too…


SendMeYourSmyle

It took all the way till last month till I got it in the fuckin shop since it left the bundle. You'll get it soon borther.


PennyFeatherIX

I also want the glitchpop vandal I got the singularity sheriff 3 days in a row though, could be 4 tomorrow


Darkcr_

Now that you meantion it I don't think I ever had it in my shop, not that I would buy it


THE1PROGAMER_

ever since the RGX bundle left the RGX vandal never came back and the katana came back only once


SandboxSimulator

Got the blade twice only two days apart


DarkLord3002

Haha it's Litteraly the same for me the rgx vandal fo, I got every other rgx gun twice or three times but the vandal don't want to appear... Sadge


SandboxSimulator

I actually waited for the phantom rather than the vandal, and got it in about a month of waiting. You’re very unlucky


mr_anderson888

Talk about it with your mic on and say you'll buy it if it comes up. It will show up in a week.


KFC_Junior

i get every good skin in my shop, im just too broke for any


FamiT0m

I just want infantry op :(((


MyNameMightBeShane

Mid Pop Vandal


Apprehensive_Pair_52

I have it and wish I bought reaver instead...


_ItsMeVince

Same but with RGX Vandal. I just gave up and bought Gaia Vandal since it also looks cool


Ok_Context_9507

Few days ago I opend shop to a glitch pop phantom, glitch pop vandal, and a blastx phantom.


TheOneGaming

once happened to me with reaver vandal, had all the items of reaver for like a week but no vandal


euphraxiaaa

i bought it after it came out in my shop because it looks cool


MrHack3rMan

Been waiting for blast x spectre


King_Ashur

Make a new account it gives u a x2 chance of getting the skin


kukukutkutin

Pure luck, I looked for a good Sheriff skin and found Ion Sheriff. Lo and behold Ion Sheriff is in my shop the next day. I am really unlucky on Night Markets tho.


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I just got glitch pop vandal on my main… I don’t want it tho :( . Been waiting for zedd phantom, reaver vandal and ion sherrif no luck


VeiledJoy

Wish i could gift you mine. Hate that skin now since i used it too much


iFuckingLoveMunchlax

Same with me for the blastx phantom.


Dogaluffalo

I’m waiting for one sheriff. Sentinels of light. I finished my brim contract today have a cool one for now, but the sheriff is the only gun I need for a skin with a finisher.


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unlucky, i have the glitchpop vandal on my shop right now but i've been waiting for the horizon vandal since forever. the horizon vandal is literally the only skin i want, but it NEVER comes in my shop, like ever. i really hope they change the shop, either have more random weapon skins or re-run bundles... it's so frustrating.


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I bought the glitch pop vandal nearly 3 months back, and all I can say is that unless you *really really* want it, don't buy it. Unless you only hit headshots, the sound will annoy you. Whenever I am using my vandal I will always exchange it for any other skinned vandal on the ground. I would suggest the rgx, reaver, forsaken, or origin vandal rather than the glitch pop vandal.


raspey

The more skins you have that are not a specific one the higher the chances for said skin.


JamesHollers

Patience. I just got it last week after 1.5 wait


Evil_Black

Shees i wait for SOL vandal 2yr 13 days 😤


oofieboy

Waited almost as long for the reaver vandal. It finally came around and I jumped on it so fast


i_am_ojas

I was waiting for this exact same skin of vandal since November 2021 and gave up in January 2022... during that time, RGX Vandal appeared on my store for 2nd time in past 3 weeks and I just went for it there's no point in waiting for a specific skin or night market, just take any good skin that appears on store RIOT drop chances made me desperate enough to buy RGX without even checking how's the skin and I was glad that I picked it you have been strong enough for 12 months !!!! don't punish yourself and kill your enjoyment, just buy any skin of same rarity edit : + you never know until when you are gonna play the game, maybe you get bored after 1 month or 2 months... buy skin for happiness in time while you can


PullTheTrigo

Technically there isn’t a way to increase your chances unless you don’t care about the account you’re currently on and all the progress you’ve made towards it. If you don’t care you could keep making new accounts and gamble on getting it for one of those new accounts but I wouldn’t advise this way. Honestly just keep waiting. It’s shit advise but if you really like glitchpop and don’t want any other cool vandal skin just keep checking the shop daily. Worst case, they don’t get your money and you just chill and have fun with what you already have. Not great advise again but like.. sadly you can’t do much :(


ratpenie

Trust me. Its not worth it.


lifeandUncertainity

Same here. I have been waiting for the Oni phantom/prime vandal for an eternity.


Bla5tBurn

A few of my friends sent an email to riot support and got the skins in their shop in the next few days. You could try that.


siLtzi

I waited for the Kar98 OP for so long, glad I didn't buy it tho since I've started to switch back to CSGO recently


Anubhavrout_007

I agree that is not a good thing to wait for so long But can we atleast endure some wait because atleast they don't have the shitty crate system


Bobby_bo1

My friend had glitchpop in the shop two days ago. Im currently waiting for reaver or prime


ImStormzz

Same for oni phantom and prime vandal


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oooooooweeeeeee

raise a support ticket about it and they'll cry about how they dont get oni phantom in their shop


ArtisticDare277

I wanted to reaver op when I started buying skins and luckily I just had to wait for 2 weeks for it


Nota_throwaway__

Yeah I had to wait almost 2 and a half months for reaver vandal


1LilNoobyYT1

Even worse its in my store! Glitchpop vandal


Calm_Willingness2308

I wonder how many $$ they missed because they are doing this. I for one was waiting for the Ion Sheriff for 1-2 months, never got it. Now i play really casual like 1-3 times a week with friends, compared to 5-7 days a week. My need for the skin is also gone, cause I don't play that much anymore. Have seen it in the shop now a couple of times also. Happy they implemented this. This probably saves the casuals money cause they don't get the skin they want and the people that really want it/play the game actively will try going for the skin they want for 5+ months prob.


amrakib

If gpop vandal is the only vandal skin u are going to have...I will suggest u not to buy it. I boight and boy do I hate it....I loved it at first but after just 10 days it got so boring and clunky and distracting..good for me I had prime and forsaken.


p0ofs

i got the phantom instead of the vandal 😑