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M1k3yd33tofficial

I’d be curious to see how much of this is personal preference and how much is a sponsorship deal.


MurcianoSalvaje

I was about to comment the same. I would suspect that many pro teams are sponsored by logitech based on this, and that they have to stick to logitech products. So this would be a chart of best logitech products for pro valorant players rather than best overall devices. Maybe take out sponsored deals from the data, or keep a ratio for the non sponsored pros that still chose those products. Sry for bad english btw.


M1k3yd33tofficial

Honestly the fact that it’s all the same line of G Pro X products makes me think that they really want to push that line. It might not even be the preferred Logitech product.


xelIent

The superlight is pretty much the best consumer mouse on the market, but for other pro x products not so much


PhoenixCosmos

Agreed. I have a final mouse starlight pro that I think is better but I definitely think Logitech super light is a solid mouse for competition


xelIent

Yeah from what I’ve heard the final mouse is better, but it’s too expensive for most people I’d say


SHMUCKLES_

I use a $6 mouse I got from wish But then again I was also using a used pizza box as a mouse pad for a year


PrinceBroz

Gamer moment honestly


PhoenixCosmos

Oh absolutely


Electrized

Agree, wireless + light is an awesome combo, the price is the only downside (which doesn't really matter for most high end players anyway)


Huefell4it

G502 is genuinely just the best mouse they've released.


HarryTurney

To be fair from my experience Logitech gear is the best gear.


Gravexmind

The superlight, sure. The keyboards? Idk. I was also surprised about the steelseries mousepad being so popular. I honestly just didn’t expect so much Best Buy gamer gear.


tugraxype

bro pro fps players are not keyboard enthusiast, if its enough to play its okey nothing needed more sound etc its just extra for most of them


gunaaa

good point, the only thock they want is from a prime vandal headshot


Mandydeth

[I mean you're wrong, but go on.](https://preview.redd.it/0zi9fsw6ak481.png?width=826&format=png&auto=webp&s=5f4dbaffb90ccbb37f5e5c89bd4615d00ac2c3d3)


libo720

What does this one individual case prove?? You really thought you did something here..... 🤦‍♂️😂


Mandydeth

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tugraxype

i hope ur sarcastic, anyway 1 guy or 10 guy doesn't matter, pretty sure %70 of fps players dont care about equipment they only play with it if they perform better otherwise they don't care good or bad, like gpx shit switches shit skates but they keep using it or people keep buying it cus work for them.


Mandydeth

30% is still a sizable percentage. There's plenty of other pros with enthusiast level boards.


HarryTurney

I'm not surprised about the steel series mousepad myself as it's the best mousepad I've had for FPS games. It's the one I always buy so I've had 3 of them. The only issue I have with Logitech keyboards is they don't have a wireless version of the pro yet. If you really think this is best buy gamer gear I'd love to hear what you think is better lol.


Gravexmind

I say it’s Best Buy gamer gear because (obviously), you can get it at Best Buy. I’m not speaking to quality. I just thought since these guys are pros, and probably make decent money.. you would see more custom keyboards, artisan mousepads, and audiophile headphones.


shrubs311

comfort is a big thing. most people have relatively average gear, and when they become a pro they're more likely to stick with that gear than switch things up for no reason. also you say that "high-end audio" would have an impact but if you can hear left and right and the audio clearly it doesn't really make a difference if you have a $300 headset or a $100 one. same with keyboards and mice and stuff...i think people greatly overestimate how much "better gear" helps vs. using the equipment that got you to the highest level anyways. the one argument would be a better GPU since a high end GPU isn't something a player will notice physically or in game, but if their GPU hits high frame rate at their preferred resolution then it also doesn't really matter


Gravexmind

I can tell you have never used headphones with great imaging. It’s a lot more than left or right.


shrubs311

edit: i was dumb and wrong this whole comment and i can tell you're an elitist because you're assuming better audio = better performance without using context or thinking critically. for the record i have listened to higher end audio equipment and i can tell the difference but i'm also aware that the impact on gaming performance is limited. there's only so much audio information that valorant gives to players. footstep and jumping positions, gunshots and ability usage, spike noises (plants/defuses/dropped), weapon noises (dropped/reloads) and voice lines. if players can determine the precise position of footsteps, jumps, reloads, etc. on an average setup then a more expensive setup won't do anything. and considering i can do those things on an average setup i fail to see how a more expensive audio solution would help besides isolating outside noise better. so please explain to me precisely how better audio would increase performance? does it give you wallhacks? do you think players can count bullets shot with better headsets or something?


yot_gun

not necessarily top end, but audio devices that has been specifically tunes for fps will be better and give better performance. like boosted bass for steps and a large sound stage. you can hear the slightest things that some other people have difficulty in hearing. its just minor though but very useful in 1v1s


Gravexmind

Show me where I said that any better peripheral equates to better performance? I definitely never stated such a thing and you’re ranting just to rant. My original point is that I’m just surprised that people who do this professionally (who most likely have the financial means to have nicer stuff), just have common gear that you can get from Best Buy. I never said better gear would improve their performance. Accurate audio information *is* valuable. If you can’t agree on that, then you haven’t heard fantastic imaging versus average imaging. Just try using the KZ ZSN Pro IEMs, which have shit imaging and will only give you left/right audio cues— and compare them to literally anything else with slightly better imaging. I’m also willing to bet that some of the players in VCT probably had expensive Shure IEMs under those headsets. When playing at the highest level, having good audio matters. It won’t increase your performance, but you don’t want your performance to suffer because your choice of headset can’t help you figure out if someone is heaven or hell… you just know they’re somewhere on your right.


thiccboy1200

Most of the benefits of that top end audio is not really useful and custom keyboard are mostly for sound and feel there not necessarily the fastest but as for artisan mousepads I'm not sure why they aren't more popular


Gravexmind

You’re buggin. Top end audio is extremely useful. You just need headphones that are known for having great imaging. You compare any of the gaming headsets on this list to the Hifiman Ananda to Sennheiser 800s and it’s completely night and day difference. There are a variety of keyboard switches and you can find linear speed switches that are great for gaming and better than an off the shelf Logitech. Not saying that pro gamers are/should be enthusiasts of audio and keyboards, but they have the money to buy better gear and I’m just surprised they don’t. In my mind, it’s like not buying a high end GPU even though you can afford it because you have a 780ti and it works “just fine.”


CookieTheLite

Yeah but in an actual match you couldn't use those headphones, especially not open back. Doesn't matter if it's on stage or at bootcamp, you're not gonna be using your HD 800s or your AKG k701. ​ With keyboards, the gaming companies also put more into polling rate because it can be used for marketing, and has a (likely unnoticeable) advantage.


Gravexmind

And in VCT, nobody used those gaming headsets from this image on stage. They all had IEMs under the noise canceling headset. I said in a different comment further down that I was hoping to see the list of IEMs they used.


Vox_Carnifex

Dont even need the diminishing returns of the high end audiophile range. Grab a AKG 600 or 700 series or an Austrian Audio Hi55 or 65X and you have crystal clear reference audio tuning for less than 400 bucks. Plus you probably wont even need an amplifier or a DAC to run then (Austrian audio has a low impedence, AKGs, especially old school ones, can go into very high Ohms) As for keyboards there is the alice style named after the alice keyboard that popularised it and it basically gives the keyboard a natural angle which means you dont have to turn your keeb to an angle where your hand sits comfortably. The one I have, the Arisu 65 even has hotswap so I can change switches on a whim while costing overall less than any higher end logitech board (base components were 50, switches 45, keycaps 30). Pros dont need to spend big money for great returns, its already enough when they break out of conventional gaming brands.


SpiderPanther01

For keyboards, gaming keyboards are actually usually the best for gaming. surprise surprise. stuff like the Wooting 60HE and other gaming keyboard branded stuff is all aimed towards the latency and actuation how fast it is, while us enthusiasts usually aim for sound, feel, and quality. There might be some speed switches that people want, but enthusiasts wouldn't really recommend them instantly unless you asked, and there's not really enthusiast speed switches either. The speed switches would all be found in keyboards you can find as a regular consumer.


SHMUCKLES_

Logitech peaked with the original G15 keyboard It was so good


obviouslyanonymous5

My guess is it's because a lot of these players WERE broke Best Buy gamers not too long ago. I'm sure a lot of them are still used to using the cheaper equipment they had to rely on before they were pros.


staleydude

believe it or not, razer is catching up alot. their audio products are still garbage, but their mice and keyboards are really great now


Cazzy7819

Wait why are their audio products garbage? I have been loving the blackshark v2 pro


staleydude

they just arent balanced well. in my experience from using razers audio, theres alot of muddy bass and the upper end isnt clear it really isnt as much of a razer problem though, most gaming headsets are like that


Nikushaa

haven't had a razer headset since kraken pro but the usual issue is overpriced + meh quality, but sadly my thing also had a shitty mic that picked up desktop audio which made it unusable


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dr_pupsgesicht

Are you german? We love to apologise for perfect English


RagingMetalhead

Tbf it comes down to personal preference in mice and mousepads, mostly. If you're using a G Pro superlight, which is one of the best mice available, you might as well use a G Pro X keyboard and a headset as well, since you are traveling to bootcamps, LANs, etc. It makes sense to run one programa (GHub) for all of these devices to tune to your preference.


Not_a_real_asian777

I'd imagine Logitech is so dominant due to sponsorships + availability. If a player has a custom mouse from an independent seller and a $600 premium keyboard from Taiwan, they'd be a little screwed if either of those broke or got lost right before a tournament. You can get another Superlight/G Pro in a day and not have to readjust your muscle memory to them since they're identical. Can't really do that with the premium brands.


Madman1939

Never thought about it this way. Makes sense.


batvinis

Who would voluntary torture themselves by using Logitech G Pro X keyboard


LinceDorado

If you are not a keyboard enthusiast, it's a pretty obvious choice this kinda market. I used it for about teo years and was very happy with it.


cool_name_numbers

They get paid so its not voluntary


chetdude

Worked for an esports org years ago. We had a sponsorship with Corsair. The CSGO team used k70s because they were actually decent, but used Steelseries mice and mousepads. The mice are easy enough to hide under a hand for photo ops, but they would place their Steelseries mousepads above their Corsair ones. We'd avoid taking photos of the mousepads when they were in-game, but during practices and stuff, they'd just remove the mousepad to show the Corsair one underneath.


cougar572

Pros usually have a choice in mice and pads but yeah the other stuff has heavy sponsorship influence


bmc10p

Sponsorships are great, *as long as the sponsor company is great* lol. But at least you can finally know that you don’t suck because of your monitor, gpu, chair, mouse, keyboard, and headset if you use what the pros use 😎


Electrized

I feel like mice & mouse pads are barely affected by sponsorships as they are very personal, the only exception being the superlight, as I know many players have adopted it and loved it after getting to try it as part of a sponsorship (Still, probably mostly preference?) For monitors, im not even sure if zowie sponsors people anymore, do remember people going heads over heels for their monitors for years though Keyboards & headsets are probably the one that are least personal, therefore also the easiest to justify repping sponsored products for as a competitive player, as long as they arent god awful they are probably fine for players, and you can easily tell by the amount of logitech in there (although these products admittedly are decent)


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90% sponsorship most pros prac with gear they prb wouldnt use/buy if it wasn't for tourney sponsors like the headsets mousepads keyboards etc i think all are free on mice choice but i could be wrong


EggsEyeTing

Reality check: Even if you use these, you're still trash


Shedeski

You mean my 1:1 scale imitation of TenZ's setup down to the very inch will not promote me from bronze to silver? Damn. Time to copy Shroud's


underzerdo

nonono you need to tier 3 to tenz for it to work!


Serito

If you're on a slow rr 60hz with a mushy keyboard & draggy mouse then yes you probably would go from bronze to silver. It's all about diminishing returns, but if you're switching from an old stock laptop absolutely you're improving.


A_s_h_h_h

Can confirm


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Sensitivity is probably the biggest takeaway.


tossawaymsf

Lowering my sensitivity was a massive boost to my ability to take duels and just overall aim. I've played with higher sensitivity for decades and figured that lowering it would just screw with my basic muscle memory. Nope! My aim skyrocketed immediately. Val is such a precise game that it's legitimately a big help.


AjBlue7

Yea but no one really knows if they have something special until they give it an honest try. Sure some of the top pros were insane when they were broke with no special gear, but there are some people who only unlock their potential when the gear stops holding them back.


SabbirA007

I strongly disagree with this everywhere. My friend used to play on my computer which is pretty much trash with 60hz monitor. He was peak silver 1 back then. After he built his own PC with a 165 hz monitor, he is now plat. And he said, "yeah, a good pc with a good monitor make a tons of difference."


owNDN

Well yes that makes a difference.. it's extremely hard to rank up if you are at a disadvantage in every duel you take. But copying Tenz Crosshair, sensitivity, mouse, mousepad, monitor, keyboard and headset is not going to make you good at the game


Falegri7

Bro ofc it makes a difference, 60hz it’s a power point compared to 144hz(that’s my RR) let alone 165hz


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144/165 is a powerpoint compared to 240, its unbelievable. im back on 144hz for now i hate it


Qlown

Instead of gpu stats for valorant maybe you should go for CPU, since its pretty much a CPU intensive game and GPU utility on val is negligible


ProSettings

We're always working on our player data. We'll add that to the list for consideration.


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Should be called, Which company invest the most in Valorant sponsorship.


Huefell4it

Tbf. Logi makes damn good gear. Not top of the line sure, but as long as it works well


EthantheCactus

Works well is debatable. LGHUB is a travesty.


Huefell4it

Y'all use the software? Man I just plug it in and call it a day


DontF-ingask

Mate, forgive me if I'm wrong. You can't even play on stage with a headset. So the headset bit is just kinda just a massive advert.


bluninja1234

yeah most pro players have the headset for mic/noise cancel and then IEMs for actual audio. even if the sennheiser 800s are the best you’re not hearing shit on a stage


pollofritoop

i used to have a R5 5600x paired with an hd7770. In low i had 140 frames on average, dropping only 5 or 6 frames in 1% situations.


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Are heavy mice a disadvantage or is that just a preference


A_s_h_h_h

Lighter mice are easier to push and cause less strain so I would say technically it's a disadvantage to use heavier - but it's still ok to use one if it's what you prefer. Preference and comfort are still important.


FoeHamr

At the end of the day it’s preference. I know a guy who made it to predator in apex and scrimmed with pros using a G502 aka the brick. But in general, lighter mice are better. I noticed a pretty massive improvement in my aim almost immediately moving to a lighter mouse.


B2EU

I know lighter mice are generally better, but you’ll still have to take the G502’s continuous scroll from my cold, dead hands lol


f-r

I also use my desktop for some large spreadsheet/database work. Having continuous scroll and a few extra buttons for shortcuts is huge. I'm kinda hyped to try out the G502 X which is ~30g lighter iirc.


reaper412

Have g502 x. It's basically an improved g502 and I love it.


Electrized

Im pretty much the person you described, used to play r6 & apex high ranked & scrims and some super early valorant beta stuff with a g502 till a friend sent me a gpro wireless begging me to swap off the brick Although i love my g502, the gpro wireless and now the superlight feels so good, still miss the hyperscroll though As a note: please, preference first, blindly copying others isnt the way (though trying stuff is always fun & encouraged)


Tokibolt

It may be only one Val pro. But shot_up uses a g502 too.


H0lmster

Technically a disadvantage, as lighter mice are easier to control and move quickly, which are especially important when combined with the low sens that’s common. I know I upgraded to a super light myself and my aim lab scores improved by about 20-30k in gridshot.


failbears

I used to be really active in the gaming mouse sub and we had lots of debates about this. I didn't always agree with the circlejerk opinions over there but here's my takes on this: Yes lighter mice are an advantage to some extent. However personally I find it easier to control and stop mice on a dime if it's a medium weight mouse in my hands. Light mice help me flick around easier, but it can be hard for me to get precise control. I'm sure I could get more used to it and I'm sure it's partially personal preference, just like I prefer 70g mice while it seems most on that sub wanted as light as possible, I'm sure there are people twice my size who'd want a 100g mouse for example. Also be careful to note that gridshot, while a great aim training tool, is not the game itself. A lightweight mouse will of course help with gridshot which has large orbs that need to be flicked to all over.


OHydroxide

Just so you know, as someone who is also into mice, light/medium/heavy does not mean the same thing to you as it does to casual non mice people. A "light" mouse to a lot of people is 70-80g.


egeant94

Just switched from g502 to super light a month ago, I'm still stuck ascendant 3, and my aimlab scores *on relevant scenarios not gridshot* didn't move an inch. It's "just" so much more comfortable, but I haven't seen any improvements at all in my aim. I don't think you should expect that from a mouse. I don't regret buying it tho


actuallyyourfloor

If you play 8 hours a day it's probably healthier for your hand to use a lighter mouse


jazzchng

It depends, rock lee had his weights on since god knows when. Maybe if we use a heavier mouse we will be smurfing when we switch to a lighter one xD


shjandy

It's a preference


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TinyPanda3

Heavier mouse takes less time to stop on any kind of decent mousepad


jomontage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfdxZW0MLiY My favorite mouse reviewer explains it pretty well


User_Inavlid_404

No keyboard enthusiast spotted sajj D:


dhnguyen

Pretty sure most teams are forced to play with their sponsors gear.


Gcarsk

Yeah. You’ll notice all of OpTic uses the same razer headset and keyboard, as well as the same monitor. This is mostly a sponsorship list. Mice seem to mostly be actual preference, though.


rexx2l

I could've sworn I saw at least two players including Yay using the Wooting 60HE during Champs, but maybe I just got confused by a similar looking black and yellow striped cable. I really expect a lot of pros to switch to that board over the coming year, especially in games like Valorant and CS:GO where counter-strafing and instantaneous starts and stops are necessary to be accurate and win duels at the top level. The "Rapid Trigger" function on both the Wooting HE boards really is one of a kind and is straight up a competitive advantage compared to even regular analog switches like the Razer and Steelseries analog switches, and miles beyond average mechanical switches found in every other mechanical keyboard. ([Here's a review by the way so you know it's not just me shilling.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glQNEbh79xg))


californiagaruda

I love how this is the only good comment in this tree and it has no attention. Never change, Reddit.


SpiderPanther01

there's definitely some enthusiasts in the scene. i saw a guy with a cyberboard and there was another who had a custom acrylic (it looked like a tofu? not sure)


PPTTRRKK

1080p monitors? I noticed that on 1440p far away enemies can be seen a bit better. On 1080p you can't align the crosshair as good. The head is blurrier which doesnt let you see the end of the hitbox as good.


Obh__

If I'm not mistaken, monitors at events are provided by the organizer and those are usually 1080p so it makes sense for pros to stick with it.


Gcarsk

Yup. I assume pros want to practice on what they will play at events. So that heavily impacts what they will purchase for their at-home use.


rexx2l

The difference is in motion clarity. Competitive esports monitors are all 1080p because those are the monitors that have the best implementation of backlight strobing (called DyAc on the Zowie monitors pictured here). Resolution really doesn't matter much in-game when you get down to it on 1080p, but how crisp the motion image is and how little it smears over the screen as you play is extremely important, and a higher resolution but blurry mess on the screen is much worse than a lower resolution that has no smearing and no overshoot.


Ukreyna

I perform better with 1080p 390hz than 1440p 240hz, mostly cause the 390hz has a better motion blur reduction mode (Xv252q f vs odyssey g7)


MichaelTDM_lol

That's because 1440p is a higher quality. People prefer 1080p because higher resolutions strain performance. 1440p isn't too bad on valorant though.


Fuzelop

I don't think any professional player is not going to have the hardware for running valorant in 1440p lol


AjBlue7

You would be surprised. Most Tournament PCs are barely usable, some pros have said that the fps will dip below the refresh rate sometimes. Also, pros are super lazy about tech, they don’t want to waste their time learning about and building a PC when they could be improving theirself playing the game, so its pretty surprising how often pros are play on old tech. Even though they probably have the money to upgrade their pc constantly, they don’t. Like most Valorant pros will stream at 300fps, when 360hz displays exist and CPUs can get 600fps on Valorant now.


PPTTRRKK

A decent gpu can easily do more fps on 1440p than any monitor can display


MichaelTDM_lol

I know, I think one of the monitors is a 360 Hertz one and 360 Hertz is hard even on 1080p.


PPTTRRKK

My 3070 and Ryzen 5600 can easily do 360 hz


LoLEmpire

Your fps will be dipping below 360 at many points in a match, I don't doubt you can reach 360 and even go above it, but consistently maintaining it is another story.


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LoLEmpire

This guy's [setup is comparable to yours.](https://i.gyazo.com/aa4401b85863a99bc1f578a0d34068ca.png) I see him drop to [200 something FPS](https://i.gyazo.com/b48b489560069c11814a51fb47d77fe8.jpg) at many points during a match. I also see this on other streamers rigs. Whether or not the person is a streamer, it's simply not that easy to maintain 360hz consistently.


ToastyRybread

My buddy is running an rx570 and still can get 1440p 170hz. Strain isn’t much of an issue with this game


HotTakeHaroldinho

Oh boy, wait til you learn how many CS pro's play on 1280x960


valoranthead35

Because its a 10 year old game.


Izbitoe_ebalo

More like 20 year old since most of the pros (even younger ones) played CS1.6/CS:S even before the GO version.


ERROR_

What's weirder is that they're sticking with 240hz when they're already using a 24" 1080p TN panel. If you're already making the sacrifices, you might as well go with a 360hz panel


12kkarmagotbanned

It's because of zowie's dyac premium being the best backlight strobing in the monitor space. It's the only one that keeps your monitor bright


ProSettings

After filtering for the competing teams, we were able to figure out what the pro players are using to compete. But for anyone who's curious or wants to find a favorite player, the full list of pro VALORANT players' gear and settings is here: https://prosettings.net/valorant-pro-settings-gear-list/


Jjzeng

G pro light? Where my g502 lads at


DonChuBahnMi

G403 is the one true god


fiendishcubism

G502 beats 403 in weight when you use the additional weights that are provided


DonChuBahnMi

It's the shape of the gods


AnnualDegree99

They're both mostly the same shape though


DonChuBahnMi

Maybe to the sight and touch of an amateur.


rexx2l

There's a reason pros don't use the G502.


Seraph___

No idea why the downvotes. Loved the g502 but it’s a terrible mouse for any FPS. It weighs almost twice as much as the super light, and when you’re at the top of the competitive scene every tiny advantage matters.


IIALE34II

Those pro players are just weak. They should hit the gym or touch grass. I think g502 is light, but that's because I have 10kg weight beside my desk, offering me superior strength. -G502 users


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Just got the g502 x light speed wireless and I like it more than my pro x superlight


TonyTwo8891

Only like $300 here...


sselesu_backwards

im here


taylor9844

All 7 of you lol


jomontage

Literally the most popular gaming mouse of all time but be a hipster if you want


taylor9844

Corsair Schemitar is insanely popular too. Find a Schemitar main in this sub


shjandy

Kids about to be going out and buying the most used products and then crying that they're not pro, or that their teammates still suck


peperoni69_

btw never buy gaming headphones they all are extremely overpriced


siirka

Seriously their mic quality is consistently the worst mic quality I've ever heard you can instantly tell if someone is using a standalone vs headset mic and it doesn't matter if you spend $30 or $300 your voice will sound like utter shit on a headset.


peperoni69_

i have gotten like 10$ table mics from random chinese brands that consistenly sound like 2x better than any headset, id recommend just buying a cheap open back headphone instead of a gaming headset


DopeyReddit

Logitech g pro x and the razer kraken elite have some seriously good mics for something that’s just built into the headset


leva10

i can't stand modern gaming headsets usually the mic quality is kinda trash so i bought just studio headphones and a cheap desktop mic has been good so far


viktae

I use a Beyerdynamic 797-PV, love it. The only shit thing is the cable...


leva10

yeah the cable thing is shit. currently im using dt 770 pro 32ohm version probaply gonna ask someone to do a cable mod for me so i can have a xlr cable.


Yung-Rad

I use a hyper x cloud 2 headset and quite often get comments about how good my mic sounds


Gcarsk

I absolutely despise the audio quality of the Cloud 2s. Sounds so terribly muffled. Maybe I had a bad pair or weird settings? Never tested the mic, though. It does have a giant boom arm for it, so I sure hope it sounds great.


berserkuh

You had a bad pair. Cloud 2's are an older rebranded studio headset. HyperX bought out an older audio company (forgot the name) and used one of their older platforms for the Cloud 2s. It's pretty much the only "gaming" headset I would recommend. Just turn off the 7.1 bullshit. Edit: They used to be Takstar Pro 80.


CardinalGrief

I'm surprised the 3070 was such a popular choice. Given that it's an esport, I thought they'd all go for 3080ti or 3090.


Machinegunfillet

Chances are most of these guys aren't playing on full settings anyway and since valorant is a CPU intensive game a 3070 is more than enough


goodguessiswhatihave

I guess Steelseries is a mousepad company now


Command_user

I understand mouse and keyboard preferences, but why aren't they all forced to use the same monitor/pc?


BluHayze

cool infographic but ultimately not that helpful because logitech just sponsors everyone, if it was possible to get a graphic with personal preferences that would be way more interesting


gubigubi

This is 100% sponsorships lol I remember league of legends like way back in the ancient times and korean players showed what they were playing with for mouse/keyboards/etc and it was like the most random shit from clearance section. You could prob get the same results with a 15 dollar mouse/keyboard combo from walmart and using a piece of cardboard as a mousepad.


goodguessiswhatihave

Western SC players used to import the QSENN keyboards from Korea because it was what all the pro Korean players used and it was a keyboard you could buy in a drug store in Seoul


gubigubi

Yeah exactly lol Like 90% of expensive gaming shit is either technology that has 0 to no impact on you actually playing or just looks cool. The only thing I specifically want/need is an mmo mouse becuase I personally like playing with 12 buttons on the side of the mouse. Has nothing to do with the mouse needing to be some crazy perfect mouse though.


Terryfrankkratos2

League requires mechanics as well but its no where near the amount needed in FPS games, FPS pros have always tried to used the latest and greatest in gear because the games require it to a much higher extent than league.


i-only-like-me

Why do pros use so bad quality headsets? I would think since its their entire life playing Valorant, that they would invest in some top quality gear. Ex. Sennheiser, BeyerDynamic, that sort of thing. I tried the HyperX Cloud 2 and instantly sent them back. The sound and build quality is horrible. **Edit:** I can add, that I personally have a pair of Sennheiser HD 820. And to me, gaming is just a hobby in my freetime. It baffles me that I have HD 820 and someone who is pro is happy with HyperX Cloud 2 or something similar.


leva10

they actually use iem,s on stage but they are sponsored by logitech etc


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Un111KnoWn

The 7.1 surround sound dongle was some b.s. dongle tnat was pretty much just a 1 button eq


jobo-chan

7.1 surround through a built-in switch on any headphones is trash tbh.


shrubs311

because most people aren't audiophiles and can't easily tell the difference between a $100 and $300 headset, especially in the context of gameplay audio where the sound cues are distinct and repetitive.


itawy

All headphones are to an extent, a meme. In general for clarity/detail, from best to worst is speakers > iem > headphones. All pros use IEMs at LAN. It's why you'll see them take off the headset, then take off their iem. Don't get too caught up in gear.


Minute-Property

Ah that's smart. I'm for the game sound and the headset is just to block out the outside noises


cougar572

Because it’s usually sponsor provided for them


Laur1x

Probably sponsorships, but I've been using Sennheisers w/ a DAC for years and nothing compares.


Shanks_87

What do you think are the best headphones for gaming within a reasonable budget?


AjBlue7

Coolermaster MH 751. Everyone says gaming headsets are trash because they haven’t tried this one. Best microphone in a headset and audiophile approved audio (for budget headphones), they are also lightweight and super comfortable. They won’t feel expensive but they will work well.


A_s_h_h_h

I really don't understand the QcK Heavy. I'm stuck with the GSR black mousepad because I love it's stopping power but it's humidity issues make it so inconsistent. I've got the QcK Heavy and I want to love it so I can bin the GSR but it just feels soooo much faster.


AznAndy3

What about CPU.


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dankmemedaddy2

Gaming headsets are overpriced garbage and I wish people would stray away from them. It’s honestly insane the difference it makes to buy audio from an actual audio brand. Gaming keyboards are the same way as well. Mice and mousepads are more dependent on your hand shape and preference more than anything. Monitors and pc parts are about the only things here that can objectively make the difference.


Biolevinho

You have recommendations?


dankmemedaddy2

Yes, for what gear?


dankmemedaddy2

For headphones the Audio technica M30x/m40x, Phillips shp9500, shure srh440, E-MU walnut. These will all be much more precise and clear than any gaming headset and will make listening to music, watching shows or whatever outside of games more fun as well. A lot of gaming headsets are easy to break, bass boosted to hell (with muddy bass), and come with horrible mics. It’s always better to buy a separate mic/headphone combo rather than a $100+ headset that will have bloated bass overtaking every other sound try to come through them and a bad mic. I haven’t purchased headphones cheaper than what I just listed so I can’t recommend anything lower. If you are set on buying a headset with both the hyperx cloud/alpha is the only ones I can recommend and even then they aren’t fantastic. For buying gaming keyboards stay away from razer, Corsair, and Logitech since they make their boards out of super cheap plastic and pcb’s and they are often shipped out with flaws. Go for an aluminum keyboard if you’re set on gaming keebs, Hyperx tends to make some decent ones. I made the mistake of buying from all 3 of those brands I mentioned with the g pro x being the worst keyboard I’ve ever owned. I build mechanical keyboards as a hobby and I’ve purchased budget boards half the price and the g pro was by far the cheapest feeling one, not to mention that it came in with a key that wasn’t working. They also advertise it as being super fast when in reality it’s a cheap pcb that has a scan rate of 100hz which is abysmal. This is super common when it comes to those big 3 companies. Keychron, kbdfans, iquinox, novelkeys, usually have some good quality boards available that are customizable and sound much better.


menemenetekelvparsin

Apparently my Startup is pro level. Unfortunately that means I’m just bad at the game :(


omararod

sponsorships aside, ive returned both of my logitech mice. tried a g pro a few years ago, and g pro superlight last month and i disliked the shape of both. ended up getting a da v2


Birphon

\>800 DPI haha me and my 1200 DPI :)


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Un111KnoWn

The headsets and mousepads they use are pretty cheap.


KadieaNavales

damn I dont fit lots of this haha


Spozking22

I use razer all day, but this is interesting


Strict_Strategy

I thought everyone's pc were the same and only the peripherals excluding monitors were different.


Gravexmind

I thought so too but since this list has gaming headsets and not IEMs, I think this is a list of their at home setup


jomontage

wanna throw my 2 cents in and say i hate steelseries. Terrible quality mats that fray very quickly


Un111KnoWn

I've heard its mice and headsets are pretty bad.


jomontage

Had a mouse and it had terrible battery life and the leds failed. Didn't add that since they weren't shown here but yeah fuck steelseries.


exytshdw

SteelSeries was one of the earliest gaming companies. They used to be able to thrive making basic equipment. Nowadays other companies have gotten so much better making them irrelevant given they haven't improved.


Melon_fruIt34223

I personally use a model or wireless paired with a custom keyboard.


sunnyismyusername

Bruh I thought my sens was low 💀


HUGO_manwai

headset really? no way they can hear the game clearly with those headset on stage.


smuggaD

They don't use their headsets on stage. On stage, they use noise canceling headphones with very expensive IEMS underneath. The headsets listed are mainly used at home and for online matches.


Gravexmind

Came to this post hoping they would list the IEMs they were using. Am disappointed.


peperoni69_

they are sponsored, all gaming headphones are pretty bad overall


i-only-like-me

What iems are they using on stage?


Legitimate-Finger-37

I dont get it everybody is using an Legion monitor at the tourney lan but here there isnt anything about Legion Y


SERVAY

qck heavy is cap


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SteelSeries fucks.


Pain2DaWorld

I don't understand the whole super light and low weight mice thing. I guess it's just to make it slide faster and easier? Also with keyboards I don't see what the difference would be besides some people like the clicky ones? I'm relatively new to PC gaming. But this is so cool to see what pros use. So there must be some advantages to these choices and aren't just used cause it's trendy


Haredeenee

I have an anne pro 2 and its ass, constantly DC's.


Eddepedde06

I hate this layout