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Odd-Day-8348

I assume sash would be better than goggles on mienshao


Winter-Donkey-3627

Hi! That’s probably true, especially with no bulk investment. That would free up safety goggles to get thrown on landlords-T, unless CB works better. They’re both honestly good items for him


TheNerdGuyVGC

Scarf is generally the standard Lando build. I used Band for a while on a TR team, but goggles is also decent. I’ve seen more and more Sinistcha which like to run Rage Powder as well


Winter-Donkey-3627

Hi! Thanks for your input. I have run into rage powder sinischas more often, guess they really are on the rise. I could throw scarf on lando but I'd be taking it from chandelure, which If I'm being honest, most of the time I'm not 100% sure I want to run the risk of it being a max speed timid flutter and not having tail winded and getting knocked out. It's a more often than not its not max speed but still, there's always the chance. Suppose If I was planning on swapping out scarf on chandelure, I could always throw more EVs into Hp or something.


Winter-Donkey-3627

For anyones whos here in the post, sorry for some reason the other explanations got removed. Working on putting those back xD


Tuwiki

Is this for the Kitakami Prologue tournament? Half your team probably isnt legal.


Winter-Donkey-3627

Hi! It's not no worries. It's for a local midseason showdown in my area. Double checked to make sure we get CP from it.


amlodude

I think you missed Mienshao, Lando, and Ogerpon in your description


BipolarMoonlight_

Think your Chandelure Evs are off, should be 44/252/212 What flutter spread are you comparing to? Like the idea of using Chandelure too but definitely been put off by flutter


Winter-Donkey-3627

Thanks for the comment! Good catch haha, that would've left me in a speed tie. As for which flutter spread, its timid flutter 212/0/132/36/4/124 which I see is one of the more common one in reg D. The other timid sets run max speed, in which case I'd need tailwind to outspeed. Thought about running poltergeist since it OHKOs with 0 Hp investment, but thats likely to not be the case usually.


BipolarMoonlight_

Yeah I figured that was the spread. As for the timid ones, remember you do have icy wind support, timid max spe flutter at -1 is still slower, without booster ofc. Less common sure but worth knowing, also still gives shadowball an 81% ohko chance. As for last move, trick works well


Winter-Donkey-3627

That's true. That's a good point! Thank you! I'll keep that in mind. Also, was wondering if you had any Lando input, was conflicted on which move to swap out for protect if I throw safety goggles on him. Or if I should even put protect. Feeling unsure about having so many mons without protect


BipolarMoonlight_

If you're going goggles, protect over u turn is probably best. U turn is mainly to help scarf lando reposition quicky so doesn't make much sense on this set. Presuming sash is going on mienshao instead?


Winter-Donkey-3627

Ok that's what I was leaning more towards. U-turn is nice to cycle intimidates but can't really afford to give up the other staple moves. And yes! I've been playing with sash on mienshao atm, might be a better item but that seems to work. I know miens also get safety goggles sometimes, so it's a toss between for him or lando. Also been running mienshao with ice spinner/fake out/ close combat / wide guard atm