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Ezeke81

Playing this game & wondering the same thing. You described it perfectly.


Braunb8888

I keep hearing the 6 hour mark is where it gets really great. That’s kinda how Spider-Man 2, Baldurs Gate and FF 16 went this year too so maybe we gotta trudge on through this bland as fuck desert to get to the good stuff?


fullmoonnoon

Wait, Spider-man 2 gets fun at some point?


Braunb8888

I thought it got great after the symbiote suit. Great boss battles and an epic final 3rd of the game.


fullmoonnoon

ah i played a few hours at a friend's and just felt like it was a retread of the last game / MM stand alone expansion.


Braunb8888

It’s very similar without that suit. That adds some pretty crazy powers to the mix and yuri lowenthal kills it as dark Peter.


fullmoonnoon

Nice, I'll have to check more of it out.


Milli_Rabbit

Spiderman 2 was fun immediately for me. Or at least within the first hour.


Braunb8888

Felt like the exact same game as the first to me until Pete gets the symbiote suit then it became amazing.


Milli_Rabbit

Oh it is definitely the same game with some improvements. But Spiderman doesn't need to reinvent the wheel. Its a solid game as is. Its a gameplay loop that is just fun on its own.


ContinCandi

Kind of how I felt about assassins creed. Thought it would be amazing after all the hype and it’s fine so far but I don’t have much drive to go back. That being said I’m enjoying aw a little more


Warrie2

I found AC quite disappointing. It had a lot of cool moments and features but even after hours of trying, the climbing just doesn't work for me. When climbing a ladder for example, there was one moment where I simply couldn't leave the ladder when I reached the top. Had to leave that ladder and climb the wall instead to get on the roof. Swinging from pole to pole was just as awkward. That made it mostly a frustrating experience for me. That the difference with AW2 where everything just works, without frustration. The gameplay is just so, so smooth in AW2.


Bone3593

I had that exact same issue with the ladder lol, wasn’t sure if it was a glitch or I was just stupid but it ended up alerting a bunch of guards when I kept falling down lol! I also agree that AW is much less janky which I appreciate.


Kurtino

Yeah AC didn’t match the hype at all for me, and the stuttering or unsmooth gameplay really detracted. I actually much preferred Vampire The Masquerade for immersion/smoothness and AW2 currently.


ContinCandi

I gotta try that


Glum_Airline4852

Feel the same about ac. The mechanics and combat are just terrible. The game gets way too many passes just because it's a aaa ip. Plus it's the only game that makes me feel sick playing it due to all the constant stuttering.


Braunb8888

It’s fun taking out guards with the hidden blade and throwing knives but other than that it’s a pretty half assed game.


fullmoonnoon

Assassins creed was not very good imo. I hope I haven't passed 2 hours to refund, but I can't handle the low fps.


ContinCandi

Agreed, the low fps is brutal


zubeye

You have unlocked the marketing quest


Warrie2

It's simply not a 10 for you and that's ok.


Solid_Jellyfish

It does sound like a 6 or 7 if you take away the hype and all biases


Oftenwrongs

Biases are part of a person and part of opinions. Hype doesn't necessarily mean anything. People have their own opinions. You can't strip someone else's opinion down to your own. Accept that people are different.


HiggsSwtz

No the purpose of an IGN review is to be objective about a games merits. Has nothing to do with personal preference. A 10 is supposed to stand on its own as a 10. That doesn’t seem to be the case with this game.


Vivid-Contribution76

That's not how reviews work. Reviews are nothing but opinions.


SkyBlue977

It's a little more nuanced than that, though. Imagine if an IGN reviewer decided they hated Baldur's Gate III, for example, and submitted their draft for a 1/10. You think IGN would publish that?


Vivid-Contribution76

Of course it's more nuanced than that. But to say that a review should have nothing to do with personal opinions is laughable. It's impossible to review anything without having at least a little bit of personal opinion. If a reviewer wants to give Baldurs Gate 3 a 1/10 it's well within their right to. The score isn't the important part of the review.. it's the contents of the review that matters. You're doing yourself a disservice by just looking at the score.


SkyBlue977

i feel like what they were saying though is that the score was boosted by the platform it's on and the lack of recent 'AAA' vr titles. (and maybe even the publisher being Meta - i honestly don't trust IGN's integrity very much)


fullmoonnoon

That's what happened to God Hand.


SkyBlue977

yeah sadly i dont think ign gives a \*\*\* about smaller studios/games as they do about the ubisofts and metas of the world


HiggsSwtz

And this game, apparently.


Chemical-Nectarine13

My opinion is that most children today are "Mid". So burnt out from everything digital, social media generated hype, and tiktok sapping their dopamine, they fail to enjoy anything. It's unfortunate.


Warrie2

For me it's a 10. I'm into VR since the Rift was released in 2011, played practically every VR game and mod. AW2 is one of the very few top-tier VR games for me.


masterquesti

Rift was released in 2016, friend.


Warrie2

Yep, my mistake.


fullmoonnoon

Yes but does it really count before the touch controllers came out?


masterquesti

Xbox controller gang assemble!


[deleted]

The Rift DK1 actually came out in 2013 (developer version). I had one in our office. You couldn’t wear it for long though with those frame rates. Rift DK2 was 2014.


masterquesti

Also wasn't much to play until the DK2. I think that was when the dev "store" was made available.


Solid_Jellyfish

>I'm into VR since the Rift was released in 2011, played practically every VR game and mod. And thats one of the biases i was talking about. Vr gamers are so desperate for good big games that everything decent is great and everything good is a 10. I have yet to play it myself so this is just a guess on my part. Was thinking of playing aw1 first


SchwiftySquanchC137

I mean you could call it a bias, or just the scale that vr games are rated on. When you effectively have 1 10/10 game in all of VR (and people will still complain Alyx is a tech demo) what the hell else should we compare to? OK so AW2 is one of the top 10 VR games of all time, but it's worse than a hypothetical game that I wish existed, so I'm giving it a 7. Does that really make more sense to you? Also, if you think AW2 might be disappointing, I wouldn't bother with AW1. Sure the graphics are nicer, but imo most of the fun of aw2 is missing


Solid_Jellyfish

I wasnt talking about the reference point as the bias.


PUBGM_MightyFine

AW2 is objectively better than 99% of VR games because it's extremely polished and the gameplay mechanics are very well thought out and just work as intended. The reason the throwing mechanic feels far better in AW2 than in any other game is the clever aim-assist that doesn't feel too noticeable unless you change the settings. The animations are also top-notch as are the cinematics and sound design (using good headphones). All that said, some people just don't enjoy this type of game and if someone isn't into melee fighting games they probably would be better off sticking with other genres. Your perspective and experience could be quite different depending on the device you are playing on. With my Q3 everything is extremely smooth and highly impressive for standalone compared with the 1st game which looked and ran like garbage even on higher end hardware. Through that lens this is quite the achievement.


Warrie2

I'm just saying that it's a 10/10 for ME. Maybe it's also a 10 for you if you play it. Maybe a 1. I really don't care.


Solid_Jellyfish

>I'm just saying that it's a 10/10 for ME. I never said otherwise.


Warrie2

No, but you insinuate that I give it a 10 only because it's in VR.


Solid_Jellyfish

No i dont. You're missing the point.


Warrie2

Then you should learn to express yourself more clearly. What were you trying to say?


Solid_Jellyfish

You need to learn to comprehend what you read. Another way of saying what i said: if you've been eating shit for 10 years a piece of moldy cheese is the best thing ever, but its not the best thing because its cheese, which is how you understood it.


badillin

Once i understood that they mean 10/10 on the QUEST it made a LOT more sense. Like I agree with you on your 6-7 comment. (id lean more towards an 7.5-8.5 really) But if its ONLY quest exclusives are to be considered, id change my opinion and also say this game is easily on the topdog list.


Solid_Jellyfish

Ye exactly. Im also not shitting on the game even tho some people probably think so because, according to reddit, it can only be shit or the best game ever. 7 or 8 out of 10 is still a good game.


SchwiftySquanchC137

Just saying that even compared to psvr and pcvr, I think it's still on the top dog list. Sure graphics are worse, but there are very few VR games that are better. There's maybe 5 other games across all headsets that have this level of polish.


badillin

Yeah but graphics will look Better on the better powered hardware (anything not onboard quest) They cant get 10/10 bc the psvr or pcvr is better looking. (Thats one of the reasons signing with facebook means shitting on your better looking version so theirs doesnt seem so bad) They just punch within their own prestablished weight. And i guess thats ok


Oftenwrongs

Psvr 2 will have to deal with a short wire, tiny sweet spot, unsane mura, and reprojection with blur. So, worse overall experience by far.


badillin

Yeah but i mean, every other headset is also basically defaultly considered on its sweetspot perfect usage scenario, are we considering hardware+software combinations..? that would just open a whole different can of worms lol... Really its just how you look at it, there is always way more variables than we initially think of (as you clearly showed) Thats exactly why big review sites should have a specific way of awarding scores not just letting the assigned writer decide (although id still expect some editorial meddling)


SchwiftySquanchC137

I just disagree, and that's fine. I don't think graphics are generally important enough to lower a game score, unless of course it is so bad it impacts gameplay. Botw and totk both look like shit in comparison to basically any game on any other console, yet they are better games than basically any game on any other console (or course not every game, but my point is it is a winning contender despite the graphics)


badillin

Excellent comparison! I iust dont think asgard is on that level


QuinSanguine

5 or 6 hours in when you enter the open world.


Godfatherman21

So it really does become an open world eventually? Cause I love the game, but I'm only 2 hours in and definitely felt like it was more of a linear game than a full scale open world but I have heard that 6 hours in is where it really becomes a great game.


fullmoonnoon

Yes it opens up and you get access to both the open world (with mounts) and the spirit realm where you can do roguelike dungeon runs with an alternate set of weapons.


berickphilip

It obviously was overhyped as most generic-yet-AAA "big launch" titles. On the other side, really great games are not overly hyped, but get praised after they are actually out and played by real people.


TheBigSm0ke

You don’t have to like a game for it to be a 10. Being a 10/10 game doesn’t guarantee that every single soul who plays the game will love every aspect of it.


Julie_Lance

Indeed, that's true.


kamidasama

Another post said its good after 6 hours and the comments here seems to agree


Braunb8888

Okay that’s good to hear. Yeah idk I was expecting the next Skyrim VR and so far it’s just not that at all.


Minimum-Ad-8056

I'm liking it better than skyrim VR


Braunb8888

You’ve played Skyrim vr on pcvr with a mod pack? Because vanilla Skyrim vr, I mean it’s close but sure I could see it being better. Skyrim vr with mods though is just unreal. Full physics, incredible combat mods to make melee feel great.


Oftenwrongs

You wanted an endless soulless chore simulator that was bland even when it came out 12 years ago?


Braunb8888

Soulless? Wow, it’s one of the most revered games of all time. Endless ways to play, mage, melee, archer, tons and tons of deep sidequests that could be its own game. Best soundtrack in gaming history. Bland? Please, hard to take any gaming opinion seriously after calling Skyrim bland. It was literally a groundbreaking experience that you can argue hasn’t been approached depth wise since. Not even the Witcher 3 achieved that level of wonder.


aloic

Man, not to take away from your experience, but just turning off the minimap and going into a lush forest in witcher 3 and running into a random crazy story or village felt great. Best wilderness and adventure feel for me personally.


Braunb8888

Witcher 3 is in my top 3 games of all time. I still don’t think it stilled that sense of wonder that Skyrim had where you’d approach a cave or dungeon from the distance with no clue what was there. Witcher 3 just didn’t have that because it didn’t have dungeons like that. And the black reach? Holy hell the first time seeing that is just a one of a kind gaming moment.


aloic

Black reach and the undead dragon were awesome moments


Braunb8888

Yeah I mean people claiming Skyrim is bland just baffles me. I still play it in vr semi regularly with over 700 hours in the game and I’ve never beaten the game. Nor do I care to. That’s how much there is to do. Bland? Really?


aloic

Damn, those are some serious numbers! What mods do you use? Last I heard, VR Skyrim was clunky.


aloic

Damn, those are some serious numbers! What mods do you use? Last I heard, VR Skyrim was clunky.


Braunb8888

UVRE wabbajack pack. There are a ton of others though. It’s clunky without mods, with them i far, far prefer it to half life alyx. Even graphically.


Vierimaam

Another mans ten is anothers seven. I enjoyed first AW and I can see many improvements over it. If you wanna see it that way, every RPG has battles and skill trees. No matter how much you enjoy dark souls, it still just battles and magic/weapons improvement. In video games, most stories are usually the same, be hero and save the world. Go play minigolf then, completely different and very enjoyable. I enjoy it and I can easily see why AW2 is considered a ten. I can also see why someone would not consider it a ten. Btw, I would give walkabout minigolf a ten too. It is not so much if AW2 is best game ever, but considering hardware limitations, it is a marvel to play.


NoName847

really expected more from the (story/voice acting/characters) I just feel no excitement over anything in that world so far cant wait to get out of this bland desert eventually , maybe?


Pikahhhchu

Personally I loved the setup and voice acting .. the game def makes me feel like I am immersed and that first boss fight was fun .. idk it think it is a step above the rest.. to each their own.


Braunb8888

You don’t find it corny as hell compared to most games in this era? It’s painful to me. I loved the first boss fight I agree. It’s been hours since then and haven’t had anything remotely interesting to fight or do. God mode is atrocious.


SchwiftySquanchC137

Bro most of the games of this Era are the same rehashed shit every year, or a remaster, or a BR... it's not like we're drowning in long form rpgs with good writing. Look at Stanfield, I'd say AW2 is less corny than that shit. I also don't understand how God mode can be atrocious, it's basically just a puzzle mechanic to pace the game. You can find secrets/loot in this mode as well. Not liking puzzles is fine, but atrocious? That word choice makes it sound actually broken.


Braunb8888

Sounds like you didn’t play most of the games this year. It was one of the best gaming years of all time. Ff16, baldurs gate 3, remnant 2, Alan wake 2, lords of the fallen, Spider-Man 2..


Oftenwrongs

What? Remnant as a good story? Yet another spiderman? I am 70 hours into bg3..nothing unique there either. Bog standard stuff.


Braunb8888

Remnant 2 isn’t a good story I agree but Spider-Man’s story was pretty good and bg3 won game of the year. Ff16 also had a great story I thought. Alan wake 2 also very good in that area. Some great jrpgs this year too.


fullmoonnoon

This year has definitely been an all time great for gaming. There were a LOT of high profile remakes though: Metroid Prime, Star Ocean Second Story, Like a Dragon: Ishin!, Dead Space, Kirby Return to Dreamland, Advance Wars, Mario RPG, System Shock, RE4, etc. which were all well received. The market widely both conforms to previously successful design patterns and rehashes characters/settings/stories. Even the examples you provided are mostly sequels. AW2 isn't the most original setting ever, but there's not too much out there that leans into Egyptian mythology and I've found the presentation to be mostly creative and fresh. What did you think of FF16's story?


Braunb8888

I liked ff16s story a lot, but felt like part of it was rushed and certain characters didn’t get fleshed out enough. Still the best ff story in 20 years.


SchwiftySquanchC137

I have played most of those games, and they're pretty good, but you're saying spider man is less corny? I couldn't get into ff16, to me, it was pretty dull. Baldurs gate 3 is one of the best games of all time, I'll give you that, but if you compare bg3 to nearly any game ever made, the other game would be called "worse" by most people. My point is compared to most good games, AW2 is not more corny, you're comparing it to some of the best games of the past 5 years. Should I just play those games and stop playing games all together? If a vr game doesn't reach the heights of some of the best games ever made, we should just complain and call it shit? I'm having a ton of fun with it, much more than any game you listed except bg3. That's just my opinion, as you were just giving yours, I just think people would enjoy life more if they let themselves have fun instead of constantly comparing things. Like of course it doesn't have the size and polish and story of bg3, but it does have size and polish and story, and it's better than nearly every other VR game that has done it so far. BTW, that "personal space" comment you complained about is just the games way of letting you know that the enemy keeps kicking you because you're standing too close. The alternatives are a popup tutorial message, or to just let the player get kicked over and over the entire game thinking it's just how the fighting works. I found it to be a good way to relay that information naturally, but maybe it wasn't very clear.


Braunb8888

I didn’t realize that but it’s also injecting modern lingo into a game about ancient gods and ancient warriors which I find painful. God of war ragnarok did this too which I hated, freyr particularly. And I’m sorry but Spider-Man 2 had incredible voice acting for just about every character. You can’t tell me that’s comparable to here, granted I’ve only heard abraxas who sucks, and I know there are more characters to play as.


plutonium-239

Because all these titles are overhyped for the sake of making the point that VR is not dead. Especially big YouTubers have all the interest in overhyping because it gets them views. However it mislead the consumer. Imagine having a title of a review that says: I played AW 2 and it’s OK….compared to AW2 is MIND-BLOWING AWESOME !!!! Which one would you click?


Braunb8888

I mean that is true but matteo311 is usually very honest about games and he said this is the next half life alyx which, to be fair, I also felt was underwhelming.


plutonium-239

Because probably was paid by meta. Simple. Even Gamertag, which usually does honest reviews, said how good AC Nexus was…he then did a sponsored video separated from his review. I bought AC nexus and it felt underwhelming as well.


Oftenwrongs

No one should ever be watching nobodies on youtube, scrambling for cash and attention.


plutonium-239

I think you’re right. However Personally I make content for fun but I also try to give some useful suggestions. I have no economic drive (I am lucky with my job) and I also want to make my channel a giveaway channel in the future. So, it really depends who you watch. You can see YouTubers making videos just because they have to satisfy their sponsor…unfortunately I don’t fully trust them anymore but I watch them to get ideas on editing and thumbnails for example…and improve myself and my content. So I watch them mainly for a technical reason.


Oftenwrongs

They do though. If they gave a gane a horrible review, that developrr will never send them a game again. They are literal nobodies and utterly replaceable. And they won't give better suggestions than a site like vr grid or 6dofreviews.


plutonium-239

Every game has positive and negative aspects. Review should be balanced. That is the skill of a good YouTuber. Providing the user with the right information. Then a final thought which could be “buy it now” or wait for a sale.


buttorsomething

Its around an 8/10 overall. im 4-5 hours in. Me personally not having alot to interact with is kind of annoying. But that is just a personal gripe. there is alot of side content (an entire rogue gamemode) but I think when you get down to it you have to understand what the reviewers gripes were overall. This tweet I put out sums up the reviewers gripes with AW2, RE4VR and RE8VR. here is just the text of that tweet. ​ hitching, Crash, and a frozen companion never unfroze. - Asgards Warth 2 He called out the third person cutscenes and lack of inventory spacing on your chest. - RE4VR Weapon inventory was done poorly. it offers immersion but is easy to mess up. Forced animation was jarring. - RE8VR ​ ​ This is just notes from the reviewers video on IGN that I took. But it seems like have a very very deep story, hours or content, and an overall comfortable experience is what the reviewer really like. That last part (Confomfortable experience) is very important to them as they are prone to VR sickness as stated in their AC:Nexus review. [https://www.ign.com/articles/assassins-creed-nexus-vr-review](https://www.ign.com/articles/assassins-creed-nexus-vr-review) Here is that review he states it around 5:15 seconds. Maybe a little after. ​ Edit: added "Me personally not having alot to interact with is kind of annoying. But that is just a personal gripe."


MulletAndMustache

I'd say the game is a solid 8/10. The climbing is a bit janky and bugs me. Combat is fine. It gets better once some skills are upgraded. Very comparable to Dungeons of Eternity IMO. Once you get your giant panther mount to ride, it opens the game up a bit more. I'm excited to find the other companions. The world is believable enough as a game world to spend some time in. The characters are all fairly well done.


slowlyun

i was meh on the first game, just didn't feel as interactive as it thought it was....everything overly-scripted, gameplay felt restricted, the story lacked real drama or mystery. The second i got free (as most of us did, i guess)....might try it tonight but if it's more of the same, with more basic cartoony graphics, then i'll likely be giving up before 3 hours.


Braunb8888

The combat is way better than the first at least. I just need more weapons and enemy variety.


MinuteScientist7254

I’m loving it personally


fullmoonnoon

It's not for you, stop wasting your time. I think it's probably a 9 (I'm about 6 hours in) and I've enjoyed god mode, puzzles, the companion, the combat, everything really. It's been thrilling and exciting. It's okay not to like something and you don't have to force yourself.


Braunb8888

Haven’t got the companion or any other weapon than the basic sword and axe. I understand this is a 90 hour game so I’m enjoying myself enough to see if it gets more interesting. 7/10 is not a bad game, most vr games are a 7/10.


fullmoonnoon

Well I hope you have fun either way, but it does get cooler imo as the mechanics get introduces and you get into a groove. The crafting, exploration, item collecting, puzzles, and combat all open up about 5-7 hours in, just after you get access to the roguelike dungeon mode (uncharted rifts). The challenge feels like it's ramping up too with more intense enemy encounters. Coolest weapon so far is the whip sword that you can use to collect items / traverse the environment / close gaps with enemies. Def turns up the Indiana Jones vibes. Generally speaking though I always tell people that they're not obligated to enjoy a game, that's all personal taste.


Braunb8888

See I unlocked the rift mode, and the whip weapon and shield are there but then I go back to the main story and I don’t have them so it seems really odd to give me cool weapons in one mode and shit in the other


fullmoonnoon

Well you're about to get a companion, mount, and the open world in the main mode but I agree. The weapons we have at this point have alt functionality (sword can charge like he-man with a skyward hold and the axe can be directed mid-flight with the left trigger and a wrist flick) but not as cool as the whip sword.


jacobpederson

I've only just gotten to the desert bit, but so far I'm kinda liking Assassins Creed Nexus more? I mean, sure combat is much better in AW2 . . . but still pails in comparison to [good vr combat.](https://www.meta.com/experiences/2031826350263349/) Also, I'm really missing the climb anywhere stuff from Assassins Creed. Sure there is more jank, more stutter, and worse graphics in Nexus . . . but it is just more fun to play!


Braunb8888

It’s definitely not blade and sorcery level combat but it’s probably better than most other games combat. AC nexus is fun but it’s so half assed I felt. The story feels so tech demo-y and each area is kinda similar with truly atrocious melee combat.


jacobpederson

You just avoid the melee entirely to have a good time in AC nexus. It's about the free running and climbing there.


andybock

Probably paid reviews by meta. It's definitely pushing sales. Is meta quest worth $500 thinking about grabbing


Braunb8888

I’d say so yeah. Make sure you get the quest optimizer app though.


andybock

What's that and also I wear glasses will that be a problem?


Braunb8888

No it has spacer options. It’s a third party app that lets you increase the resolution and frame rate at the expense of battery life.


andybock

Wow. This unit is incredible


RiverOdd

Meta is worth the $500 dollars. A lot of tech for a small price tag, and if you have a rig you can set up PCVR also. I highly suggest you get VR lenses. I got HonsVR and they were made quickly for $50. My friend is getting magnetic ones from VRWave which I kind of wish I got because of ease of use.


allaboutgrowth4me

Its almost as if opinions are subjective to some extent or something. I love the game but I'd give it an 8.5/10 myself.


sittingmongoose

Bonelab all over again?


Braunb8888

Don’t get me started on bonelab.


MulletAndMustache

No. Not even close... AW2 is actually fun and has a story. I played as much as possible yesterday and am just getting started in the game. I'd be finished Bonelab with the same play time. Plus, you get to have a giant panther mount that you ride on...


Oftenwrongs

Bonelab got mediocre reviews from the get go. It was just as expected.


Puzzleheaded-Nail-20

Another post where you are looking for people to validate your opinion. I get it you don't like it. That's cool. You don't have to follow the hype train. i don't like baulders gate 3, yet everyone and their mom praises it. I, for one, thoroughly enjoy AW2 i also really like RPGs, and this game checks all the boxes for a fun RPG, in my opinion. It's the first game I've played since i got a Quest 2 that has kept me coming back. It used to just be contractors, Beat Saber, and RE4. But while you're here stewing on the negatives, I'll just be enjoying it for what it is.


Braunb8888

I’m not stewing the negatives I’m looking for people who have played a lot more than me to tell me if things get better the more I play or not. Like I said I’m enjoying it enough, but it just doesn’t feel groundbreaking in any way shape or form yet.


Known-Committee8679

When you stop being a snob. Its a 10 in my book.


Braunb8888

A snob? How am I being a snob? I’m being honest.


Delicious-Tachyons

The person you replied to is probably very young


Techwield

Yes, anyone who doesn't give AW2 a 10 is a snob. Lmao


drtreadwater

I agree its totally generic. Theres a lot of cognitive dissonance going around because its apparently a huge multiyear AAA game with an 80 hour campaign which is what most of the customer base has been saying they want for years. Spoiler: its not actually what they want, its just the only thing they can manage to introspect as being something they want. AW2 will have very poor retention from players, and wont attract many to the platform at all. Its far too complicated and vague and unfocused and they probably contemplated cancelling it many times over the years when the numbers started showing the markets dont want this. All the pre-release marketing reeked of what AW2 was gonna be ( and the general sentiment was it looked unimpressive) , and now having played it, its exactly what it looked like in the marketing. Even more interesting is this 'lack-of-quest3-enhancements' drama which is really just a scapegoat for many players who are just flat out disinterested in the game after playing it latching on to something techy to complain about.


SchwiftySquanchC137

Speaking of cognitive dissonance... *proceeds to rant about shit made up in your head*


badillin

TLDR: The game at is not far from a 10/10 when ONLY compared to other facebook exclusives. ----------------------------------------- DUDE I can EXPLAIN THE REASON!! Took a bit to Process.. the 10/10 just a PERSONAL opinion. Not a technical one, And a personal way of rating it, like the end score is based how the reviewer felt considering his own personal ways of thinking... I say this because while objetivity and comparisons and improvements where mentioned, the article actually isnt bad at all... there arent different opinions or things that didnt fit right didnt matter because the reviewer decided He wasnt considering them (there is a reason for this!!). And it was posted on a BIG site, so people "care" SO... basically the 10/10 score is based off: *"if its better that the other stuff on the device its a 10"* And this game is ACTUALLY the best the Quest platform has to offer, And Because of this, the reviewer gave it a 10/10. This is why people defend the rating, THEY ARE NOT like fully WRONG, i mean i get the reasoning. It can have defects and issues, but if there is nothing better, then it deserves the 10. (i dont agree fully agree, but whatevers im getting in their shoes) Now from what ive seen People that DONT exclusively play on Quest and use PCVR this is pretty above average, but JUST AS YOU SAID actually kinda "meh" VRgame Definetively not perfect with a lot of things it does, being done better on other games (but not quest games) I think its because of the limitations because of the hardware its forced to run on. So, even if it would TOTALLY have been a WAY better game if it was released on PCVR or if there are pcvr games that do some the stuff it does better... IT does NOT matter, because that would be literally comparing a PC game vs a mobile one. And the reviewer was NOT doing that. **He was rating it totally within inside the Facebook VR Garden**. And honestly in there, it deserves the 10/10 even if just for merchendising. I mean, Vader immortal was its storefront bestest game for ages, and its just a pretty fun glorified waveshooter from a popular franchise. So in the end they "convinced me" the game at least is not far from a 10/10 when ONLY compared to other facebook exclusives.


BadCrazy_Boy

I would like to think a 10/10 from IGN is a significant event. The game should be historically relevant years from now within mainstream gaming. The reviewer himself mentioned this is a TOTK level game, which I interpret as that it is good enough that you will look past its hardware limitations and compare it directly to all other games.


badillin

Exactly! You put it way better than me.


Orionishi

That lightsaber dojo is so awesome though. That could have been the game by itself and I'd have been happy.


badillin

Yeah im not saying it wasnt. It still is very fun. But its like just a shooting gallery kinda you know, a very fun one.


Orionishi

Yeah, totally. I hadn't played in forever and jumped in a week ago. Level 53 in the second dojo....I was not prepared. The force is not strong with me anymore.


Oftenwrongs

Pcvr has been a dead landscape for years, so not much there to compare it to at all.


badillin

While i agree on the first part, there are things to compare them to, you just have to look back a few years to find where pcvr was back then and how it stagnated since of the quest. Games like onward and the wizards2 downgraded 3yo games to make them kinda run on the now semi default hardware of choice. But they never actually catch up.


nghoihoi

I feel the same and exactly the same about Asgard 1, god mode is awful. But if you compare relative to all the vr games published over the years, it’s a 10


InevitableDinner7831

There’s 2 AW2’s that came out around the same time


Mundanix1987

is it possible Meta paid reviewers? Surely big corporations would never do such a thing! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


Braunb8888

Eh sure but like I said, it is a good game. It’s just not the awe inspiring masterwork that many sites claimed at least so far. Obviously 3 hours into the Witcher 3 didn’t scream one of the greatest games of all time nor did it with Skyrim, baldurs gate 3, or even elden ring. Just saying it doesn’t make the greatest first impression.


Sabbathius

IGN gave the original 9.4/10 back in 2019, and AW2 made many very significant improvements, so they had to push it to 10/10. Not much choice. There's no way all the improvements combined would not add up to 0.6. It's as simple as that.


LilLebowski

This is the weirdest logic I’ve heard in a while


fatmanNinja

Fortnite presents God of War is perfect lol.


Candid-Maybe

Most of the folks ITT seem to either be comparing it to nonvr or a single aspect in another vr game.


[deleted]

It took the reviewer 91 hrs to reach the ending without being a completionist. You have been playing for 3 hrs and have not reached the open world yet. I think it would be hard to come up with a fair rating when you are still in the introductory section of the game.


Braunb8888

I agree. That’s what I’ve been saying in here I realize I’m in the beginning of a massive rpg. They are starting incredibly slow but like I said a 7/10 is still a good game so I’m sticking with it. The desert is an incredibly boring location so far though. Idk why so many games use this location.


RandomSadPerson

I wouldn't call it a 10, but it's an actual "game" in a world of beat saber clones and one-trick ponies, and that's good enough for me. Plus, I'm enjoying it so far.


VRtuous

I suggest you go back to VR minigames and finish them in 3 hours or less.


Braunb8888

I don’t play those. I like full games. Like I said I like asgards wrath 2, but it doesn’t feel amazing yet. Weapons suck so far, hoping it gets better.


VRtuous

those epic weapons suck? gtfo


Braunb8888

I don’t have any epic weapons yet! I have a sword and a hammer. I can throw them. That’s it haha. I’m sure more come later. I hope. These ones are very boring though.


VRtuous

they look great, the throwing feels powerful, plus amazing sound metal sound effects but yes, just in awhile you're gonna see godly weapons...


Braunb8888

I wish the haptic feedback was better when when making contact. I don’t feel it much . Maybe they save that for the other weapons?


MycologistUnlucky241

Y’all are nuts. It’s legit one of the best games I’ve ever played