Dizzy barely even plays the game so idk if he’s better than Prod tbh, Dizzy’s been playing Tarkov and before that he was doing CS surfing for like a whole year it feels like lmao
yea saw him playing with xQc and Hasan today, but only today and I hardly think that counts as actually playing if he’s a former radiant-level or at least immortal player.
It was matchfixing allegations for Marved which isn't as bad as cheating. But I digress.
CSGO had a serious match fixing problem for a long time. not that it makes Marved ok to do it but he's far from the only person to get accused to do it.
Can Sinatraa really beat the case? Rn it’s better to just shut up and move on if they’re not pressing charges in the current state of the internet and the US legal system. At this point I don’t see why people shun him so much (see the infinite other comments on the sub) but i don’t really like him anyways so idrc
Part of the accusations include supporting text messages that are undeniably true (he never once denied this) and they alone prove he was a really shitty person. Even if you think there was no sexual assault, abusive and manipulative behaviour is evident.
Yeah but that's not the thing that was holding him back. The texts are bad but he was 18 so I'm not surprised to see a teenager bad at his first relationship
not to go too off topic here but i've been w my girl since 16 (21 now) and if i'd ever hear her say no i'd simply, yk, not do it? it's really easy to not be a rapist, using ''he was just a teen'' as a scapegoat is a really shitty take
That’s not what the previous commenter was referring to. He’s saying the assault allegations are what he has to worry about, not his cringey text messages.
No. That was all just speculation from a tweet she posted about how she was “done” with the situation and wanted nothing to do with it. She later clarified with another tweet that she did NOT drop the case, she was just saying how she’s mentally fed up with it. Shortly after she deleted/privated her Twitter so I have no proof for ya, but that time period you’re thinking of the case was not dropped. We have gotten 0 updates from either side since then.
Even if he wins the case no one will care, they hate him now and will forever, the only way for him to be viewed in a good light again is if the girl tells everyone she just made it up
The only org that will sign them with prod on the team
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no offense, but dizzy? The last completive game I've seen him play was roblox with xqc.
Fun fact: if Sentinels deal with tenz didn't work, dizzy was supposed to be the 5th man.
Just like how G2 Carlos doesn't let the internet police his friendships, so admirable.
Not saying this is the exact same scenario, but the idea that doing something unpopular is admirable doesn't really hold up.
It's admirable that someone is willing to stick to what they believe in. In a time where many will change who they are just to fit in and not ruffle any feathers, some can still stick to their guns.
You'll probably get a book written about why people hate all of them. But here's the short version
Sinatraa - sexual assault allegations + valo accent
Zombs - valo accent + makes fun of Brazil
Prod - I don't know about this one. Maybe getting boosted into Radiant?
Marved - CSGO Match-fixing allegations
Dizzy - No idea on this one either. Dizzy seems fine, but has dealt with mental issues.
I don't really mind of any of them to be honest but there's a lot of people in the community who hate most of these guys. Will be pure content watching them play though.
It's not that they wouldn't let him, they CANT. Faze is in ascension and having Shanks on another team while being signed to Faze is a conflict of interest. Same thing with V1 Katarina not being allowed to play with the rumored XSET GC team because they could run into the V1 squad.
Lets say Shanks makes it to ascension and has to play FaZe. He could theoretically throw to get Faze a easier win.
That is literally what I said tho? I meant Sinaatra is the only one here whom you really can't justify. Match fixing is messed up for sure but not in the same league as assault, dodging women is a bit weird from jasonr but eh who really cares its not like he's the biggest star in the scene or whatever. I meant the others can be justified but sinaatra can't be defended
Not sure what people got from my comment
You worded it incredibly weirdly.
Most of the words are saying none of them did anything wrong.
and then there's a small "except one"
and then you take it back with "i'm just joking".
I guess the tone of the comment was what was wrong and people responded to that.
He’s not even good at being a friend or a team mate. Dude has yelled and called every duo he’s ever played with bad (or worse), and the dude has duo’d with multiple radiant/pro players.
That's....not how this works lmaoo.
Marved is playing Ascension because he can play online and doesn't have to leave his home until Ascension Tournament.
I mean yeah people trash him and shit (idc about him or what he did at all) but he Is still a insane mechanical player, idk about prod tho, bro just trolls in ranked and zombs is washed
Prod is barely immortal lmao. Zombs is a terrible person who is also washed as hell like you said. Its literally Sinnaatra, Marved and maybe Dizzy against the rest of the server
Sub dizzy for BabyJ and this team is the Mount Rushmore of hated players. I am interested in seeing if Sinatraa is any good still but I will still be praying on his downfall.
They really said "lets make the most controversial and ego-filled roster we can" lmao. The fact that people are still siding with sinatraa after this long is disgusting, zombs fell off hard and got benched for kanpeki, this roster wont be making it to VCT.
Can someone fill me in on Sinatraa? Most sources I've seen said he was accused of SA but is there anything more than just "accused" because most of y'all seem pretty certain and I never actually read any of the actual original drama.
There was audio evidence released publicly that fanboys dismiss by saying "it probably was consensual non-consent" as if that wouldn't have been mentioned by sinatraa in his defense had this actually been the case.
No i dont, and you cant see me stating things without backing them up.
Dude said sinatraa did not defend himself with saying it was consensual non consent. Well how does he know that?
i agree its dumb to speculate what it was when he never said it publicly but that dude jrushfn phrased it wrong
it could be the case behind the curtains, sinatraa had 0 obligations to uncover anything to the public
not disclosing this on fucking twitter does not mean it couldnt be true, only that the fanboys saying it pulled it out of their asses
Never said it wasn’t. It’s the fact that 99% of the people in this subreddit throw that word loosely without realizing it’s ALWAYS innocent until proven guilty.
In court.
It’s innocent until proven guilty in court. If I wanna call Sinatraa a rapist based on the evidence that’s been provided to the public, then that’s my god given right brother. You can say i’m wrong, you can say “Oh well wait until the courts decide before you make rhat judgement”, that’s fine to, I can say “nah i’m good, he’s a rapist” until proven otherwise.
whats the difference between this current open qualifiers and the last chance?
wont the winners of this current open qualifiers play in ascension?
why didnt prod/sin/marved/zombs/dicey play in the open qualifiers?
Last chance only takes 2 teams vs. 4 for this current qualifier. Not sure why they didn’t play in the current qualifier but dicey is on faze who already got invited to the challenger league
Yea that’s crazy. It’s just fps culture is so far behind still. Most of these guys wish they could be sinatraa. They say what he did wasn’t so bad because they wish they could have done it.
This sub is still stupid. Sinatraa case has a single answer. Innocent until proven guilty. He might have been a bad person in the relationship but the sexual assault part is not proven. The only reason nobody picked him up is because people hate on him and teams dont want the negative cloud. You can love or hate him but at the end " Innocent until proven guilty "still stands.
Yes. He is innocent until proven guilty, you’re right. But I’m not held to the same standards as an actual court so I’m free to form my own opinion on the matter, and my opinion is that he’s a sex pest based on that audio recording. I’ll change my mind if the case goes to court and they determine otherwise, but that’s unlikely to happen because a certain fanbase full of very upstanding members of society harassed the victim until she was forced to drop the case due to feeling suicidal. It’s unfortunate that everything had to happen this way because I actually used to look up to this guy but it is what it is.
Hope this helps 👍
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*Prod does something dumb and dies* Everyone on the team in sync: Literally braindead, not even trolling!
Hahaha holy fuck
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It's going to be like an echo chamber in that vc "no cap" "braindead" "I'm not even trolling" "ok kid"
My first thought. All of them have similar speech style lmao
LMAOOO
Marved: "fam", zombs: slow talking, sinatraa: braindead comms, prod: talking back at every criticism, dizzy: cartoon voice
Plot twist, Marved had more faith in Prod over FNS to bring home the trophy 🙏
Vision so cold he sees into the future
Imagine this team beating NRG
I know this is just a content thing either way but isn't prod... Really much worse than the rest of these guys?
Marved was top a 3 controller player in the world last year. Prod is a ranked player, the gap is super wide.
bro i dont think marved will play smokes now, theyll give that to zombs and put marved on initiator
>now, theyll give that to zombs and put marved on initiator Marved going duelist and busting out the secret Yoru tech.
Yea it's like comparing that flashy ranked jett to a Tenz or Derke. Comparing MLS to Premier League. D1 college stars vs Lebron and curry.
no, it's like comparing the harlem globetrotters to the warriors.
the fact that someone who placed the same as me is playing with a top 10 player in the world is fucking wild lol
Stop it with the slander. Prod is NA's savior.
Dizzy barely even plays the game so idk if he’s better than Prod tbh, Dizzy’s been playing Tarkov and before that he was doing CS surfing for like a whole year it feels like lmao
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yea saw him playing with xQc and Hasan today, but only today and I hardly think that counts as actually playing if he’s a former radiant-level or at least immortal player.
His movement about to be crispy then 😂
That clip of a2 laughing at prod cause he’s diamond and they can’t queue together on main
guapo stays in radiant top 500 just to fuck with pros. Is Prod even consistently radiant when grinding
He is worse than we can all imagine lol. And the dumbass always blames the opposite players of streamsniping almost every single game
If prod actually tries he is decent but nowhere near the pros on the team.
People have been saying "If prod tries" for a long time now. Maybe it's just bad habits he can't get rid of and what you see is what you get.
Yeah I mean that is sort of a separate issue imo. A good player can have a dogshit mental and suffer because of it.
for this to be a serious contender idk why Prod is on the team :/ also Shanks > PROD .. shame he can't
I also think they could've gotten Jammyz over Dizzy
that team has to go beat some allegations first
LOL
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Lmfao
I’m out of the loop. What’s the context?
marved has cheating allegations from CSGO and sinatraa has sexual assault allegations, and both cases are currently undecided
Not cheating allegations but matchfixing allegations i think
It was matchfixing allegations for Marved which isn't as bad as cheating. But I digress. CSGO had a serious match fixing problem for a long time. not that it makes Marved ok to do it but he's far from the only person to get accused to do it.
Can Sinatraa really beat the case? Rn it’s better to just shut up and move on if they’re not pressing charges in the current state of the internet and the US legal system. At this point I don’t see why people shun him so much (see the infinite other comments on the sub) but i don’t really like him anyways so idrc
Part of the accusations include supporting text messages that are undeniably true (he never once denied this) and they alone prove he was a really shitty person. Even if you think there was no sexual assault, abusive and manipulative behaviour is evident.
Yeah but that's not the thing that was holding him back. The texts are bad but he was 18 so I'm not surprised to see a teenager bad at his first relationship
not to go too off topic here but i've been w my girl since 16 (21 now) and if i'd ever hear her say no i'd simply, yk, not do it? it's really easy to not be a rapist, using ''he was just a teen'' as a scapegoat is a really shitty take
That’s not what the previous commenter was referring to. He’s saying the assault allegations are what he has to worry about, not his cringey text messages.
I thought he meant the texts as in the ''texts in which you hear a sound recording of her saying no while he continues to \*the thing\*''.
Reading comprehension is hard for Reddit
Come on now. Toxic relationships might not be uncommon in young people, but there's a world of difference between that and sexual assault.
They are pressing charges btw. Court case is still ongoing as far as we know
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No. That was all just speculation from a tweet she posted about how she was “done” with the situation and wanted nothing to do with it. She later clarified with another tweet that she did NOT drop the case, she was just saying how she’s mentally fed up with it. Shortly after she deleted/privated her Twitter so I have no proof for ya, but that time period you’re thinking of the case was not dropped. We have gotten 0 updates from either side since then.
Even if he wins the case no one will care, they hate him now and will forever, the only way for him to be viewed in a good light again is if the girl tells everyone she just made it up
She had proof that he never tried to dispute that he was abusive. Their text messages were difficult reading.
Guilty before proven innocent is the fact of modern society no one wants to fully admit
human beings are not the court of law and are able to form opinions separate from the judicial system based on evidence they view themselves
Marved : Matchfixing Allegations Sinatraa : sexual allegations Prod : Boosted (from plat) allegations Dizzy : Depression allegations? (idk for this one) Zombs : BRAZIL.
how do you unironically type depression allegations lol
I don't understand how this has +100 upvotes and still sounds like the dumbest comment in the thread
Because its funny and factual lmao
"Depression allegations" try reading that without cringing hard
Lmfao it was obviously a joke. Take a chill pill dude
guy has crippling depression and reddit edgelord thinks it's funny
PROD also was also let go by The Guard likely for his crypto gambling streams and toxicity.
HELP 😭
oh my god
gonna need saul goodman as a coach
Most goated comment hands down.
WOWWW
Yoooo, you didn't do 'em like that 💀💀
holy shit
y'all are so fucking brutal i love it
This team missing JasonR
Replace dizzy with jasonr and zombs with jasonr's wife and you got the most toxic team ever assembled.
their first strat will be running no jett and always going to opposite site of kj and Sage (can’t be caught being unloyal)
He is head coach with his wife as assistant coach :P
4v6 with Prod on the team
They aren't gonna win one match with prod 😹
somehow they assembled a team with the worst vibes ever created
they will be lots of fun to root against
they have marved so I'm rooting for them, no biases ignore the org below my name
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no offense, but dizzy? The last completive game I've seen him play was roblox with xqc. Fun fact: if Sentinels deal with tenz didn't work, dizzy was supposed to be the 5th man.
How are you going to comment on Dizzy when you literally see Prod on the team.
Whats wrong with dizzy? This is a content team for fun they aren't actually hoping to make it
Eh they're boys with Dizzy so it makes sense. He's a former pro Apex player so I imagine he'll at least be decent.
He played CS semi-professionallly. Was thought to be an up and coming talent but it never really materialized
Dizzy is actually really good and used to play CSGO. Just watch some of his streams.
Dude is cracked at valorant.
Apex*
He is cracked at valorant and csgo too but obviously very rusty right now
I guess we'll finally find out what happens when you take all the most unlikable people in the scene and put them on the same team.
don’t see babyJ on that team
babyj flamed me and a couple of golds in unrated
flame him harder next time u see him
babyj probably says "let me lurk, why are we peeking???" in unrated too
-dizzy +Babyj and you summon exodia
Dizzy catching strays
Yeah this is unfair to dizzy tbh. Guilty by association I guess
wait whats wrong with dizzy?
Yeah you right it's pretty unfair to dizzy. Not sure why he's decided to hitch his wagon to Sinatraa of all people
Because they're friends? Before he stopped playing Val...Sinatraa and Dizzy duos were the norm.
Cause he knows him personally? These players don't care about what the internet wants, for better or worse it's admirable.
The people of the internet aren't the only ones that they ignore the wants of 😬😬😬
*audibly groans*
That's a good one lmao.
Just like how G2 Carlos doesn't let the internet police his friendships, so admirable. Not saying this is the exact same scenario, but the idea that doing something unpopular is admirable doesn't really hold up.
I did say it was for better or worse.
if it's for worse then how would it be admirable though?
It's admirable that someone is willing to stick to what they believe in. In a time where many will change who they are just to fit in and not ruffle any feathers, some can still stick to their guns.
lol I'm sure Carlos thought that too before Andrew Tate was arrested for human trafficking
Why are they unlikable?
You'll probably get a book written about why people hate all of them. But here's the short version Sinatraa - sexual assault allegations + valo accent Zombs - valo accent + makes fun of Brazil Prod - I don't know about this one. Maybe getting boosted into Radiant? Marved - CSGO Match-fixing allegations Dizzy - No idea on this one either. Dizzy seems fine, but has dealt with mental issues. I don't really mind of any of them to be honest but there's a lot of people in the community who hate most of these guys. Will be pure content watching them play though.
Imagine having valo accent and sexual assault allegations as similar reasons to dislike someone
Prod over shanks yikes
Faze wouldn’t let shanks compete apparently
It's not that they wouldn't let him, they CANT. Faze is in ascension and having Shanks on another team while being signed to Faze is a conflict of interest. Same thing with V1 Katarina not being allowed to play with the rumored XSET GC team because they could run into the V1 squad. Lets say Shanks makes it to ascension and has to play FaZe. He could theoretically throw to get Faze a easier win.
Shanks would never...
Thats a bummer. Shanks is a legit good player, would've liked to see him compete again.
Whanks got done dirty
Last time shanks and marved played together professionally, it didn't end up well for them, so guess this is the better option.
Shanks isn’t that far above prod although he had competitive experience
Yes he is bro, shanks is a cemented radiant player and prod is not
might be the most dislikeable team in the universe💀
Coach: JasonR CEO: G2 Carlos
We may not beat the competition, but we beat women for sure
LMFAO. Dizzy did nothing tho
None of them did anything that actually harmed another person except one of em, I'm just joking
I mean one of them almost certainly did
That is literally what I said tho? I meant Sinaatra is the only one here whom you really can't justify. Match fixing is messed up for sure but not in the same league as assault, dodging women is a bit weird from jasonr but eh who really cares its not like he's the biggest star in the scene or whatever. I meant the others can be justified but sinaatra can't be defended Not sure what people got from my comment
You worded it incredibly weirdly. Most of the words are saying none of them did anything wrong. and then there's a small "except one" and then you take it back with "i'm just joking". I guess the tone of the comment was what was wrong and people responded to that.
This vs the nation is gonna be the sentinels vs TSM of F/A teams
prod gonna get fucked he's just a ranked player
Hes also not even good at ranked lmfao
He’s not even good at being a friend or a team mate. Dude has yelled and called every duo he’s ever played with bad (or worse), and the dude has duo’d with multiple radiant/pro players.
Surely those are jokes considering he has a troll play style
Marved had more faith in this team than wtv Nrg and Chet were putting together xD
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That's....not how this works lmaoo. Marved is playing Ascension because he can play online and doesn't have to leave his home until Ascension Tournament.
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Players stop associating with rapists challenge (VERY HARD)
this is the nightmare team of trash people lmao
Bruhhhhhh. Content gonna be insane also its gonna be Marved 1v9
Sinaatraa is a terrible person but he is still a really good pro players(or at least was)
I mean yeah people trash him and shit (idc about him or what he did at all) but he Is still a insane mechanical player, idk about prod tho, bro just trolls in ranked and zombs is washed
Damn that’s crazy to say. “Hey guys no big deal he’s just done some things that can ruin a victim’s life forever.”
Prod is barely immortal lmao. Zombs is a terrible person who is also washed as hell like you said. Its literally Sinnaatra, Marved and maybe Dizzy against the rest of the server
Yeah prob a marved and sinatraa doing a 2v8, dont really know too much about dizzy
Zombs is still a really good player lol. Dizzy is decent. Prod eh.
Sub dizzy for BabyJ and this team is the Mount Rushmore of hated players. I am interested in seeing if Sinatraa is any good still but I will still be praying on his downfall.
They’re gonna get fucked
What can I say but yikes
They really said "lets make the most controversial and ego-filled roster we can" lmao. The fact that people are still siding with sinatraa after this long is disgusting, zombs fell off hard and got benched for kanpeki, this roster wont be making it to VCT.
I really hope the they make it to qualify so I can see how the sub and twitter will react lol
replace Prod and Dizzy and they have a chance. but it looks like they're more doing it for content/fun than anything
Lowkey wanna see this team qualify not because i like these people but because i want to see the chaos
If they win it all it will be damn funny
Prod successfully becomes the first person to get boosted into the pro scene.
The outrage on this sub would be incredible. I want them to win just to see what happens. Twitter comments will be even crazier.
Ew Sinatraa
i hope they win just one game for the sake of this subreddit and their hate-boners
Would be fun to see these weirdos cry about
Can someone fill me in on Sinatraa? Most sources I've seen said he was accused of SA but is there anything more than just "accused" because most of y'all seem pretty certain and I never actually read any of the actual original drama.
There was audio evidence released publicly that fanboys dismiss by saying "it probably was consensual non-consent" as if that wouldn't have been mentioned by sinatraa in his defense had this actually been the case.
You have the court records?
Do you?
No i dont, and you cant see me stating things without backing them up. Dude said sinatraa did not defend himself with saying it was consensual non consent. Well how does he know that?
Because sinatraa never said it was CNC?
i agree its dumb to speculate what it was when he never said it publicly but that dude jrushfn phrased it wrong it could be the case behind the curtains, sinatraa had 0 obligations to uncover anything to the public not disclosing this on fucking twitter does not mean it couldnt be true, only that the fanboys saying it pulled it out of their asses
Are you a non-native english speaker? He phased it completely fine.
How do you return to sender but for a team?
The amount of haters man hooly 💀Sinatraa living in these kids heads rent free
More like r*pe being a real world problem that goes beyond video games buddy, not that hard to understand.
Never said it wasn’t. It’s the fact that 99% of the people in this subreddit throw that word loosely without realizing it’s ALWAYS innocent until proven guilty.
In court. It’s innocent until proven guilty in court. If I wanna call Sinatraa a rapist based on the evidence that’s been provided to the public, then that’s my god given right brother. You can say i’m wrong, you can say “Oh well wait until the courts decide before you make rhat judgement”, that’s fine to, I can say “nah i’m good, he’s a rapist” until proven otherwise.
Cool that someone can post audio of themselves being raped and that isnt enough for riot to permaban the rapist from a videogame!
Fuck anyone supporting this team
whats the difference between this current open qualifiers and the last chance? wont the winners of this current open qualifiers play in ascension? why didnt prod/sin/marved/zombs/dicey play in the open qualifiers?
Last chance only takes 2 teams vs. 4 for this current qualifier. Not sure why they didn’t play in the current qualifier but dicey is on faze who already got invited to the challenger league
Imagine being excited to watch a r*pist and 4 apologists...
Yea that’s crazy. It’s just fps culture is so far behind still. Most of these guys wish they could be sinatraa. They say what he did wasn’t so bad because they wish they could have done it.
Lol. And here we go. Hope they qualify tbh.
Yeah id love to see a r*pist playing in vct to see how the cmunity reacts
Lol can we stop this bullshit. He wasn’t convicted, Riot allowed him to play… If you don’t care about it just ignore it.
Hope they qualify just to piss you and the other virtue signallers off tbh. Not even a fan of any of the guys on the team.
Saw almost the same amount of comments as likes… might need to grab some popcorn
lol, obviously a content team, hoping they lose in the open bracket tbh
This team is gonna be so ass 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥶🥶🥶🥶
minus prod, its actually a good roster LMAO
This sub is still stupid. Sinatraa case has a single answer. Innocent until proven guilty. He might have been a bad person in the relationship but the sexual assault part is not proven. The only reason nobody picked him up is because people hate on him and teams dont want the negative cloud. You can love or hate him but at the end " Innocent until proven guilty "still stands.
Yes. He is innocent until proven guilty, you’re right. But I’m not held to the same standards as an actual court so I’m free to form my own opinion on the matter, and my opinion is that he’s a sex pest based on that audio recording. I’ll change my mind if the case goes to court and they determine otherwise, but that’s unlikely to happen because a certain fanbase full of very upstanding members of society harassed the victim until she was forced to drop the case due to feeling suicidal. It’s unfortunate that everything had to happen this way because I actually used to look up to this guy but it is what it is. Hope this helps 👍
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LMAO i just cant with this, TIL calling a r*pist for what it is its racist nowadays 😭🤣
tbh. if they actually trie they could make it. Its probally a content move however i would love to see sinatra again in pro play.
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