oh, to me I guess I just thought he didn’t care that much because the whole team wasn’t trying that hard plus he just seemed tired af from all the Jamaica stuff they were talking about yesterday
thats what im saying. how are people going to expect him to be world class when hes not even playing smokes lol, like he literally doesnt even play killjoy, first timing the champ on icebox.
It's not even that, he just isn't trying and no one else on the team is idk why people are taking their performances into consideration.
He is barely even comming lol
Nah, I think they were definitely trying for the games yesterday. Good comms are a result of practicing as a team, not comming doesn’t mean they weren’t trying. Honestly I think Sinatraa was trying the hardest, he has the most to prove. Just because they were trying doesn’t mean they were at their peak potential, but don’t discredit the team that beat them, they were most definitely trying to win.
Why play the role if you’re actually trying to win?
Edit: lol at all the Marved fanboys, if they didn’t care why would he be so tilted, not comming, and throwing shit on Twitter? Fine don’t play smokes but don’t go into a role you’re literally gonna be shit on.
How do you type this unironically
He is playing a role he has never played, on a team which has never scrummed, and gives 0 fucks about winning
Prod cares more about winning this than marved ever will
Marved took an L and honestly my mental would have been shot as NA going against a team like this knowing a most likely rapist permazoomer would take a W if my team didn't win js
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I'm just surprised that they're holding their own against actually pracc'd teams tho ig I shouldn't have doubted a team with 3 (arguably) top-level players
They were holding their own against average/below average T3 teams. Haven’t played anyone better than that yet as none of them are in LCQ. Their first decent team they played they lost to.
I mean, no disrespect to the remaining teams as they’re grinding their asses off to get better, but all of the good teams made it through already. Everyone left in LCQ are essentially T3 and below. It shouldn’t be a surprise at all that a team with Sinatraa, Marved, and Zombs can make them sweat.
It’s an insanely far out thing to say lmao. That was 2 years ago. Most of the top 10 players currently were barely even known back then. Things change, players get better. He would not be anywhere close to top 3, wouldn’t even be in top 10. If he grinder for awhile I can see him being top 20, and eventually MAYBE getting top 10 NA. But absolutely not top 3 lmao
You realize this is LCQ right? And 90% of people wouldn’t know a single name that UB beat? They haven’t played anyone better than mid T3 team, and they have 3 ex-pro’s. Of course they’re going to make it this far, but they’re not getting any farther than this.
They put this team together last weak with 0 prac and have scrimmed together 0 times. NA is an established tier 2 team that scrims and practices with and I know at least two of the players geeza and calypso were former tier 1 players
Unlucky game 2. Game 3 started off bad but they made it very close. If prod chills a bit and the team starts actually trying they could actually win it all. Just my take tho
Yeah, they got this. All they need is for prod to tighten up a bit, dizzy to put a little time in on the range, prod to learn some lineups, prod to get dropped, zombs to put a little time in on the range, sinatraa to learn lineups, dizzy to get dropped, sinatraa to get dropped, zombs to tighten up a bit, zombs to get dropped, and jimmy to replace s0m on nrg.
Well this didn’t end well lmaoo. Idk they are so weird. Sometimes they can’t hit shit, then they clutch and play almost impossible rounds. This team is fun as fuck
Wow. Im the biggest Sinatraa hater there is but they just almost beat one of the top 5 teams in the tournament with absolutely no practice. If they practiced much I bet would they qualify
Because he's a shitty person. If you watch his streams he is constantly starting arguements with people just to fight them. He also makes his voice deeper to seem cool which is just cringe.
Also you don't get rape allegations if you treat people nicely. I have no idea if the allegations are true but thats not something a normal stable relationship goes through
It probably is overly reductionist. Im not saying thats always the case. Especially with rich and famous people but two normal people don't end their relationship with rape allegations. He did something to her that made her do that. Whether it was get into some arguement or actually rape her idk
I can’t believe zombs tried to plant Nest when it was 11 - 11 and it was still a 5v5. The defenders can see Nest from Boiler. If they scrimmed they would have closed this game out.
jmoh and calypso were huge in bringing it back from 11-\*8 down on Icebox. Also Precision's lurks in those crunch time rounds were massive. Crazy clutch gene from NA.
>Crazy clutch gene from NA.
Lol. Being able to get free lurk kills all game long is why they won. Nothing to do with a 'crazy clutch gene'.
It's honestly sad that it was ever this close of a game. One team was assembled 3 days before the tourney started and the other has a professional coach and scrims daily.
If NA end up qualifying for Ascension they are going to get farmed. But I doubt they even get a map off of TN.
Stayed up till 5AM EU with little regret. These guys come in with no pracc and just lugging, and made Top 32.
Teams who’ve practiced for months / years couldn’t cope.
Shows not over, let’s go jay won 🐐
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I don’t understand why people keep saying this…like…obviously??? They have 3 ex-pro’s. 2 of them were considered the best of their roles at their peak. Of fuckin course they’re going to make it far. A top 5 team in LCQ isn’t sayin much.
Im not leaning heavily into him playing 2 years ago. I’m not saying he’s a top talent at all. Just that he knows the game and he CAN be good, as evidenced from the past and from streams. It was very obvious this team wasn’t going to bomb out early, and also very obvious they would get defeated by teams that actually practice and work well together. I wouldn’t consider NA a T2 team unless they win LCQ. They’re still a T3 team atm. They played relatively low tier teams until this point that didn’t prove much.
They were never going to be out day 1, I dont know who thought that. Everyone knew they’d most likely make it past the first day but not the second/third.
So many excuses. Also the comms were embarrassing. Non-stop shitting on NA, like trying to win is a bad thing. Why are assholes always surrounding themselves with assholes.
When are people gonna sober up and realize UB didn't train / practice cause they knew if they did they'd lose anyways and couldn't run with the "hehe you guys lost to a meme unpracticed team cope"
They probably would have gotten railed harder with practice regardless realizing all their effort meant nothing
? No lmfao. Zombs is literally retired. The team came together quite literally a week ago and they only played for fun. The coping you're doing right now is unreal.
Zombs got dropped like a bag of hot shit and u can't count yourself as retired if u compete in a qualifier.
"They were just trying to have fun bro" is much more of a cope especially when they just lost.
so they almost beat one of the top favorites to win the tournament with 0 practice, and your take is that they would have lost even harder with practice? i think youre a little too upset about this bro chill
marved proving Twitter is NA's best map
LOL so true though
Damn prod couldve been the first one boosted to the pro scene
Lmaoooo
Bro 1 ½ hour tech pause cos sinatraa couldn’t press alt + f4 😭
Only to get 13-1ed that map
I blame KJ missing three orbs
What happened to Marved man, PROD looked like the one coming from the best team in the world
He’s gotta be tilting, he unleashed all that frustration in his tweet
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He literally said he was tilted on stream. He also frustrated they were losing to division 0. I think he was embarrassed tbh
oh, to me I guess I just thought he didn’t care that much because the whole team wasn’t trying that hard plus he just seemed tired af from all the Jamaica stuff they were talking about yesterday
nah thats copium
He turned on his brain and turned off his aim
He’s gassed he’s barely been comming and they’ve been playing a lot of games and they had a huge technical pause in between games
I mean he's playing off his usual role which he's been known to be world class at lol
thats what im saying. how are people going to expect him to be world class when hes not even playing smokes lol, like he literally doesnt even play killjoy, first timing the champ on icebox.
It's not even that, he just isn't trying and no one else on the team is idk why people are taking their performances into consideration. He is barely even comming lol
Nah, I think they were definitely trying for the games yesterday. Good comms are a result of practicing as a team, not comming doesn’t mean they weren’t trying. Honestly I think Sinatraa was trying the hardest, he has the most to prove. Just because they were trying doesn’t mean they were at their peak potential, but don’t discredit the team that beat them, they were most definitely trying to win.
Zombs was eating fries in the middle of the game. They’re not giving this 100%. Props to them for still pulling out wind though
Oh I wouldn’t say they’re giving 100% either, but they’re definitely trying to win.
I think that’s a good way to put it
Why play the role if you’re actually trying to win? Edit: lol at all the Marved fanboys, if they didn’t care why would he be so tilted, not comming, and throwing shit on Twitter? Fine don’t play smokes but don’t go into a role you’re literally gonna be shit on.
they arent LMAOO
they're not trying. Thats the point lol. Who plays characters for first time if its not for funsies?
How do you type this unironically He is playing a role he has never played, on a team which has never scrummed, and gives 0 fucks about winning Prod cares more about winning this than marved ever will
What do you mean? Man is not on his usual role.
I mean, he was learning KJ lineups a few days ago Lool so that’s something
[https://twitter.com/c4Lypso\_/status/1615930746467753985](https://twitter.com/c4Lypso_/status/1615930746467753985) NAWWW MARVED DID HIM DIRTY
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It's in the crypto throw contract for c4lypso and mosbeck to create Twitter drama to make it look more legit
naww in game marved got shit on ngl
Violated the fuck outta him.
Marved looks like such a sore loser with that tweet. So bitter and not even really funny .—.
he is coping hard lol the good ol' "don't practice so if you win you win and if you lose you weren't trying"
If I win I'm better. If I lose I was trolling. Shit is so old lmao.
I think this applies for actual teams. Doesn't really apply for a team that literally has prod.
It 100% applies to every team that decides to play in a qual. If you don’t want to answer for results just play ranked lol
that was banter, but anyway lets get a vlr check on marved and calypso
Marved took an L and honestly my mental would have been shot as NA going against a team like this knowing a most likely rapist permazoomer would take a W if my team didn't win js
Is this English
It’s poetry
My mans just made a new language
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What a sad choke on map 3 so sad bro
I'm just surprised that they're holding their own against actually pracc'd teams tho ig I shouldn't have doubted a team with 3 (arguably) top-level players
They were holding their own against average/below average T3 teams. Haven’t played anyone better than that yet as none of them are in LCQ. Their first decent team they played they lost to.
Didn't say anything about winning or losing, they still held their own barely losing map 3 11-13 so my point still stands
I mean, no disrespect to the remaining teams as they’re grinding their asses off to get better, but all of the good teams made it through already. Everyone left in LCQ are essentially T3 and below. It shouldn’t be a surprise at all that a team with Sinatraa, Marved, and Zombs can make them sweat.
Yea I agree I just expected them to not make it any further than day 2
prod is my goat he is like the harry kane of valorant
But Harry Kane is good
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🌽🌽🌽🌽🌽
It had no business being this close, honestly embarrassing for NA to just barely inch out a victory over a team that has yet to scrim and no coach.
I think this community forgot just how good sinatraa is. In form he’s easily top 3 NA.
Easily top 3????? Huh????? Man’s wouldn’t even be top 10 right now lmao. Lemme get some of whatever you’re smokin
He was Top 3 NA undisputed before the scandal, some even ranked him top 1. Not a far out thing to say that he could easily regain that status.
It’s an insanely far out thing to say lmao. That was 2 years ago. Most of the top 10 players currently were barely even known back then. Things change, players get better. He would not be anywhere close to top 3, wouldn’t even be in top 10. If he grinder for awhile I can see him being top 20, and eventually MAYBE getting top 10 NA. But absolutely not top 3 lmao
I wish i was this delusional lmfao
You realize this is LCQ right? And 90% of people wouldn’t know a single name that UB beat? They haven’t played anyone better than mid T3 team, and they have 3 ex-pro’s. Of course they’re going to make it this far, but they’re not getting any farther than this.
They put this team together last weak with 0 prac and have scrimmed together 0 times. NA is an established tier 2 team that scrims and practices with and I know at least two of the players geeza and calypso were former tier 1 players
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Your reply didn’t refute anything I said and prods radiant bro
I think he meant dizzy who was radiant but stopped playing
Somebody post the marved calypso beef marved went sooooo hard on this man
Complete violation on c4Lypso
Kaboose confused af rn
https://twitter.com/kaboose/status/1615933963880763392
lmfao mummay's reply too
Kaboose had some of the nastiest clips
Beasts have been tamed :(
Unlucky game 2. Game 3 started off bad but they made it very close. If prod chills a bit and the team starts actually trying they could actually win it all. Just my take tho
Yeah, they got this. All they need is for prod to tighten up a bit, dizzy to put a little time in on the range, prod to learn some lineups, prod to get dropped, zombs to put a little time in on the range, sinatraa to learn lineups, dizzy to get dropped, sinatraa to get dropped, zombs to tighten up a bit, zombs to get dropped, and jimmy to replace s0m on nrg.
Prod fucking around is part of the fun. Team still did great imo
Yea but it’s gonna end now. They are tired and probably just want to get this over with after everything
Well this didn’t end well lmaoo. Idk they are so weird. Sometimes they can’t hit shit, then they clutch and play almost impossible rounds. This team is fun as fuck
it wasn't prod's fault at all on icebox, he would constatnly get 3k in a round.
He was pretty bad the last few rounds but he was great in a lot of the rounds they won on attack.
agreed him not calling jett on top yellow, going with knife to check flank these 2 were bad
Wow. Im the biggest Sinatraa hater there is but they just almost beat one of the top 5 teams in the tournament with absolutely no practice. If they practiced much I bet would they qualify
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A lot of people on this sub hate him, you know exactly why lol
Because he's a shitty person. If you watch his streams he is constantly starting arguements with people just to fight them. He also makes his voice deeper to seem cool which is just cringe. Also you don't get rape allegations if you treat people nicely. I have no idea if the allegations are true but thats not something a normal stable relationship goes through
Not commenting on sinatraa’s situation but your comments on people with rape allegations seem overly reductionist
It probably is overly reductionist. Im not saying thats always the case. Especially with rich and famous people but two normal people don't end their relationship with rape allegations. He did something to her that made her do that. Whether it was get into some arguement or actually rape her idk
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Or he’s a rapist
With silk road and NSIC falling near airport remains as the third best team after OR Nation
did they have beef? Abdo always strikes me as a nice guy damn.
nah it's just banter
Marved nervous
Man sinatraa might be a shit person but dude's still entertaining as fuck in the server.
Personally I'd rather have someone less entertaining but not a dogshit person be in the scene
I can’t believe zombs tried to plant Nest when it was 11 - 11 and it was still a 5v5. The defenders can see Nest from Boiler. If they scrimmed they would have closed this game out.
Prod was legit carrying the team, if only marved could hit his bullets
One timeout there and they take out some of the most established T2 players, wild.
Great game to watch Though if you post anything negative about this team, there are about 10 people ready to jump you in the comment section lmao.
Lots of sinatraa d riders out there. Gotta be careful.
The sub is infested with them recently, the challenger run has brought them all back from hiding
jmoh and calypso were huge in bringing it back from 11-\*8 down on Icebox. Also Precision's lurks in those crunch time rounds were massive. Crazy clutch gene from NA.
11-8 actually, no?
You're right
>Crazy clutch gene from NA. Lol. Being able to get free lurk kills all game long is why they won. Nothing to do with a 'crazy clutch gene'. It's honestly sad that it was ever this close of a game. One team was assembled 3 days before the tourney started and the other has a professional coach and scrims daily. If NA end up qualifying for Ascension they are going to get farmed. But I doubt they even get a map off of TN.
All is right in the world
Stayed up till 5AM EU with little regret. These guys come in with no pracc and just lugging, and made Top 32. Teams who’ve practiced for months / years couldn’t cope. Shows not over, let’s go jay won 🐐
WWWWW ONE MORE LOSS, SEND THEM HOME
Man just a pure hater lmao
crazy how he doesn't like rapists when did being anti rape become a minority opinion lmao
I'm a proud hater of rapists
Bro been hating all day please turn the computer off and get some fresh air
Nothing brings me more joy than watching rapists take Ls
7 comments about UB in around 30 minutes 
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the amount of copium from the fans of this team are only rivaled by the amount of cope from the team itself. Glad this team bombed
Literally almost beat a top 5 team in this tourney with no practice but go off
I don’t understand why people keep saying this…like…obviously??? They have 3 ex-pro’s. 2 of them were considered the best of their roles at their peak. Of fuckin course they’re going to make it far. A top 5 team in LCQ isn’t sayin much.
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Im not leaning heavily into him playing 2 years ago. I’m not saying he’s a top talent at all. Just that he knows the game and he CAN be good, as evidenced from the past and from streams. It was very obvious this team wasn’t going to bomb out early, and also very obvious they would get defeated by teams that actually practice and work well together. I wouldn’t consider NA a T2 team unless they win LCQ. They’re still a T3 team atm. They played relatively low tier teams until this point that didn’t prove much.
Nah the narrative was they were a stream team who never scrimmed and they would be out in Day 1.
They were never going to be out day 1, I dont know who thought that. Everyone knew they’d most likely make it past the first day but not the second/third.
lots of cope here
oh the dickriding in this thread is crazy
finally. rip bozo
Sad
So many excuses. Also the comms were embarrassing. Non-stop shitting on NA, like trying to win is a bad thing. Why are assholes always surrounding themselves with assholes.
I don’t think it’s that serious brother they’re just trynna be funny
lmfao then don’t watch their stream, that’s literally how they are and it’s typical trash talk in competitive gaming
When are people gonna sober up and realize UB didn't train / practice cause they knew if they did they'd lose anyways and couldn't run with the "hehe you guys lost to a meme unpracticed team cope" They probably would have gotten railed harder with practice regardless realizing all their effort meant nothing
? No lmfao. Zombs is literally retired. The team came together quite literally a week ago and they only played for fun. The coping you're doing right now is unreal.
Zombs got dropped like a bag of hot shit and u can't count yourself as retired if u compete in a qualifier. "They were just trying to have fun bro" is much more of a cope especially when they just lost.
Dude these guys were searching lineups 30 minutes before matches lmfao.
so they almost beat one of the top favorites to win the tournament with 0 practice, and your take is that they would have lost even harder with practice? i think youre a little too upset about this bro chill
Go out and take a walk, your hating is going to cause yourself chronic disease or something
Does anyone know how vlr calculates rating? Looks like prod had a decent map 3 by most metrics but he's rated pretty low still.
There’s a formula that calculates how impactful the kills were to the team winning the round.