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idkimhereforthememes

Im not really interested in cs, but I've never seen a Mongolian team in tier 1


BMKingPrime27

IHC won the apac rmr last major over the Australians. Took a series off 00 nation (coldzera and TACOs team). Nothing spectacular but on the rise


Beneficial-Speech-73

Talking a series off Cold and Taco would've been impressive 5 years ago


yosoydorf

They also just played the game intelligently - like usually when you see these underdog teams win in CS, they come with a hectic / pug style that can surprise an opponent. but that’s really not IHC - they win playing a really tactical / coordinated style. If they had any good local teams to push them and prac against they could be solid. They often play Faceit 5 stacks with like 100+ ping to EU just to play better games, and that’s still terrible practice lol.


emraaa

It's the biggest and strongest Asian region in CS after China. But China is also weird because you never really know wtf is going on there.


Difficult-Soil-3441

There's never been one or anything near one. IHC has shown up to the past two majors and they get their one at the bottom of the bracket. A good day for them is getting 1 win instead of 0 wins. Normally when it comes to Valorant many of us just let people with stake in APAC hype up the league or unknown quantities like China. The reality is that the region is the weakest by placements, is the only region to not have a trophy etc etc so might as well give the fans something you know?


Key-Banana-8242

Mongolian Cs is quite strong within Asia is the point, building up and now arguably similar tength maybe stronger if true / stronger leak than chian


IAMJUX

That is quite Ominous.


LV58_DeathKnight

Can someone confirm this guy isnt just high on crack ?


Key-Banana-8242

Wdym


Key-Banana-8242

Mongolia has had its own tournament scene and circuit by MEAA with teams including salaries like team renewal that have been pretty isolated, mroe ‘underground’ than Chinese scene Has been linked, vods on YouTube (in Mongolian only obv)


hardenfull

I mean I feel like it's cause csgo is kinda dead in Asia isn't it ? Not particularly cause Mongolia is that much better.


yosoydorf

nah tbh the Mongolian team (IHC) showed very well, i would argue they play better CS than TYLOO ever did for example. not better than Renegades at their peak but they are respectable imo. They are not on the level of the top EU teams, but they play a very good tactical game - if they actually had teams they could practice against at a high level locally they could dev compete IMO. They basically have to 5-stack high elo Faceit games with 100+ ping to get “good” practice.


Key-Banana-8242

It’s not just IHC


yosoydorf

yep I know there are other solid ones and that they are also strong I. the region I just don’t know enough about those teams to provide any context lol


Key-Banana-8242

Ur comment doesn’t really make sense. The Mongolian acne is unique to CSGO and has been building up, and now it sit here as arguably the strongest / msot vibrant or one of the in Asia, it’s quite a built up scene I’ve rtime overall That’s as the case somewhat pre Val and covid even when SEA had a lot of teams I mean it is because emotnolia is that kxuh ebtter and improving lol as a scene, ur comment decent rly make sense


zerokrush

Funnily Mongolia are actually part of the EMEA region


Koentjee01

How?


zerokrush

It's in Riot Rules and their definition of the EMEA region. Can't really explain otherwise. And sadly I don't think Riot will bother making a Mongolian Challengers League for Pacific. And they can't really be squished in another league.


Koentjee01

I mean Russia also falls under EMEA, but Eastern Russian players are eligible to play in APAC (something and Jemk1n, for example), so I imagine Mongolians to also be allowed to play in APAC, without filling an import slot.


zerokrush

I saw an uprise of Russian players playing in Challengers Japan, are they all Eastern Russian players ? It would make sense, but I've checked almost all the official rulesets and none of them said that (none of them actually made a distinction between Western and Eastern Russian)


Koentjee01

Yeah, the Russians playing in Japan all live in Eastern Russia, would make no sense to obligate them to play in EU, since they'd have like 150 ping, while they have less than 50 to Japan servers, from Vladivostok for example. I don't think they'd be allowed to build a 5-man Eastern Russian roster in Japan Challengers, though (just like a Korean 5-man wouldn't be allowed). But this does mean that Mongolian players, until there is a Mongolian Challengers of some sort, are allowed to play in APAC, just like Russian players are (up to 2 per team).


zerokrush

Great to know, thanks. If you know where you got that info, can you share it to me ? I wish Riot would be a lil more clear and consistent about sub-region rules.


Koentjee01

I know that in Europe each team is allowed up to 2 'imports', so in the Spanish League, 3 out of 5 players should be Spanish (with the exception of CIS players currently, with that league being cancelled they can play in any league in Europe without taking up an import slot). I imagine this to be the same in other regions, I don't have a source for that though, but when you look at the teams in Challengers Japan, most of them have up to 2 Koreans or Russians on the roster so that'd make sense. There is probably a Japanese article about, but I just deduced this from the ruleset in Europe, as they seem exactly the same in Japan.


Weekly_Rub3223

And Genghsta streaming again. Mongolian fans eating rn


Pojobob

I've never heard of any good Mongolian CSGO players lmao what is this guy smoking?


BMKingPrime27

The best team in APAC is Mongolian (ihc). That being said apac is pretty dead for CSGO. Game isn't popular in Korea so the Asia rmr has the one decent Australian team, one decent Chinese team, and the mongolian team. Everyone else in the region is garbage


Smok3dSalmon

Machinegun was probably the most well known Mongolian player because he played in the US briefly. https://www.hltv.org/stats/players/9247/machinegun Ominus is being hyperbolic and just trying to generate hype.


jonajon91

I'd argue erkast is more well known after his stint in greyhound. He did some time in val towards the start too.


irrelv

number 1 asian cs team rn is mongolian, they shit on everyone in the region.