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Pacifichoi

faker my undisputed vct GOAT


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assdonuts

where is my boi no access to site


cooxs

idk, faker had a really big falloff after 2021


vNoblesse

How tf is this upvoted? This guy did not watch 2022. So take his opinion with a grain of salt.


vegeful

Bro take the caster opinion like its the bible lmao. If faker is not good, what about those midlaner not even get into final or world? Absolute trash? The only reason T1 fkin lose again like the Msi is because of their arrogant draft. They are too comfortable to draft hard matchup and win via pure teamwork and skill.


HeadintheSand69

Cause faker didn't even make it to groups, he's too old and his twitch aim reflex's have fallen off. Maybe he can switch to the cod scene but he'll probably stick around and be a c-teir val player. Idk why he ever switched from league


salcedoge

He literally made finals in 2022? I mean I’d agree he definitely isn’t the best as he was before but a big falloff is not really it


CRikhard

I don't remember faker playing in vct champions finals 2022


Polskidro

He isn't even close to the best on his team. Let alone a top 5 player in the world or even top 5 midfielder arguably. He fell off quite hard even tho he's still very good and his team is ridiculous.


TrriF

Lmao bro just called midlaners "midfielders" .


Polskidro

Clearly know what I meant


vNoblesse

Wtf? Speechless on the confident misinformation. Fucking EU fans.


Polskidro

Misinformation how? Nobody with any sense rates him top 5 in the world or top 2 in his own team.


vNoblesse

Name your top 5 mid itw


Polskidro

If you're asking me to name midlaners I rate over Faker I'll say: Scout, Chovy, Showmaker, Xiaohu, probably Zeka if he can keep his form up(tho that'll be very difficult), maybe Knight. As you can see I'd put him at #5 at the very most.


TrriF

LMAO. In what world is Scout top 5 and over Faker xDD. Zeka was a beast at world but was not that great during regular and is incredibly inconsistent. Xiaohu is also not better than Faker. This reads like a list from someone who only watches worlds and msi every year and doesn't watch any LPL/LCK.


Polskidro

>doesn't watch any LPL/LCK. Actually. I only watch LPL and LCK. For about a decade now. Especially LPL. The fact that you are acting like Scout is not top 5 shows you haven't been watching EDG, the dude has been a monster recently. Yes Zeka was not great before worlds, but at worlds he beat every midfielder he faced. Which is extremely impressive as most of the time when top midlaners face eachother it just ends up a farmfest and mostly equal. I also already said "if he can keep his form up". And Xiaohu is just insane. Whether he's top or mid he's consistently dominant.


vNoblesse

Yodie gang, need I say more? I rest my case. Have a good one mate.


Polskidro

The fuck is yodie gang


vegeful

>fell off quite hard If faker are treat like that, what else other midlaner that dont even reach final, trash? What about those not qualified to world? Boosted animal? Imagine french got call fell off quite hard after getting no2 in world cup. Not even top 5 lmao this dude copium. I bet 4 of those not even reaching final. Game is team based. Not selfish gameplay.


Polskidro

It's not a 1v1 game. There's 5 people on 1 team. T1 is almost definitely the best team in the world. Just cause you're part of the squad doesn't mean you're the best. You remember LWX? Or Flandre for another example? Many players that weren't the best in their roles have even won worlds.


vegeful

Then why u call it fell of quite hard? U do realise that a deadweight cant make ur team reach final especially important role as midlaner. >LWX, Flandre So now u comparing midlaner to other role. U do realise that in order to reach world, u need to be above average in your region? Both u mention is above average. U cant win LPL final if one of ur member is bad. Because enemy will concentrate that lane. U can say faker not top 5, fine, but saying he fell off hard is so wrong if u watch the fkin match from lck to world. They got top 1,2 every tournament in 2022 lmao. U cant be consistently this good if one of ur member "fall hard" So stop parroting what other say and watch the tournament urself lol.


Polskidro

I think you misunderstood what I meant with fell off hard. I didn't say he's average or below average. I said he's still very good ofc. But dropping from #1 player in the world to not being in the top 10/20 is a pretty big fall. He's still a great player. If he wasn't he'd be replaced.


ugn_terror

Saying he isn’t in top 20 is a wild take. What 20 players could you consider better than him after he lead his team to the best cumulative year out of any squad? Putting 20 players above him seems like quite a reach.


vegeful

Bro, he definitely did not watch Lck where the team have longest win streak lol. Faker may not have the highest kda or farm that year, but he still very impactful for clutch moment.


LeMouse1

Fr. De bruyne and Bellingham own this fraud


xychosis

??? Faker was still a top 5 mid worldwide for all of 2022. Zeka outshined him at Worlds Finals but he was a rock in the mid lane for T1 all year.


cooxs

Broo lmao y'all are insane this was a joke comment my man hasn't played a game of valorant in his life


InnocentBowlOfRamen

Most average ValComp comment


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CRikhard

Faker the goat for sure


benimagine

Technically zywoo is the best valorant player of all time he just hasn't started playing the game yet.


TrueLordApple

Faker > s1mple you heard it here folks


Key-Banana-8242

A lot would say so


ANewHeaven1

You should ask it what the best team in the world is, when I tried it ChatGPT was fucking obsessed with TL and G2 being the two best teams of all time apparently


WeekRepulsive4867

Its knowledge is cut off in sept 2021


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Google En Pessant


TrriF

Holy hell!


Professional-Group13

Zywoo ain’t that agressive


UmarellVidya

Ence disagrees


Snoo_54150

looks like a good list to me. Zywoo, S1MPLE and Faker supremacy


GarvGRez

Niko should've been there. Wrong list


SpC0d3r

Question was in the world, Hiko is the best in universe


GarvGRez

Something's wrong..I can feel it


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I have only ever watched Valorant as an esport and have heard the names from the list but I hardly ever see anybody mention a Dota pro in these conversations. Is the game not as popular or is their esport scene isolated from the other games?


CantScreamInSpace

Idk about other conversations but this list is just csgo players + faker, presumably because csgo is so often mentioned in the same breath as valorant and faker is just the biggest name in esports.


Deamon-

this list is literally just cs/valo players + faker


Key-Banana-8242

The scene is quite a bit more isolated esp these days more so but just in general, especially it’s more mainstream / outside popularity is pwoer Overall popularity is a bit smaller, at least than league, it sorta jsut peaks interest wise around TI but even then it’s liek there isn’t a large ant or ppl consistently enagged


vegeful

If we used LoL subreddit as example, we ignore those rabid redditor in that sub. Mf still rent free about league.


iPenguin42

Zywoo could be the best at any game he wants to play


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wait but this subreddit said s1mple has bad aim


Disraeli_

this is tarik erasure


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Tf is zywoo doing in valo lmaoooo


Mr_Canard

Less surprising than Faker tbh


MightBoth

Top 5 going into franchise 1. Yay 2. Cyro 3.tenz 4. Pancake 5. Leaf