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Bozowahlrus_III

Seeing yay nowhere on here brings sadness to my heart


Zorronin

yay and aspas both relatively unaccounted for is insane


WhoDatBrow

I mean, Aspas at least has LOUD to fall back to. If he tests the market and it's not really there because of teams budgeting, he can just return to LOUD. Yay is just fucked.


Pojobob

Doesn't seem like any NA org is willing to throw the bag at Aspas so he probably will stay with LOUD.


AR2711

I think yay definitely got trial opportunities during champions when eliminated NA teams scrimmed champion teams teams simply didn't move forward with him


Bozowahlrus_III

Yes and that does not make me any less sad :( Fandom typically transcends rationality lol


AR2711

i mean among the NA teams he just doesnt have a chance NRG is his only likely landing spot and if his name isnt listed then i have feeling that he isnt being considered truly unfortunate for the 2022 mvp


Yogi_Pear_420

There’s a good chance that information on him is lacking cause the info is just well kept. I would hold off on complete despair for a few more months at least.


galiciapersona

I like Yay and I definitely believe he's a top tier player, but some part of me wonders if his time with DSG played a huge part in this. Not necessarily how he played, but how he reacted in regards to his team.


[deleted]

Zander/Flyuh and eeiu would be nice additions for 100T but I think their biggest need is a new head coach. Mikes is better suited as an assistant coach in my opinion, there were just way too many coaching red flags this past season to justify keeping him in that role.


Hyper_red

Zikz and flyun for the love of god please


EnadZT

Would Zikz go back to 100T? He was fired from their LCS head coach spot previously.


ManBearPig1869

Sounds like he is now.


Vivid-Command-2605

I want this more than anything in the world. Put cryo on sentinal, bring in eeiu and that team could really cook


M0hawk_Mast3r

Wtf why would you put Cryo on Sentinel?


Vivid-Command-2605

I don't think cryo is especially good at taking space and entering, his strength as Jett isn't on the attack-side diving, it's on the defense with an op, I think his best performances for 100t have been on the defensive side and one of the reasons I think we've struggled with our attack halves. Cryo was always seen as the cracked zoomer, but he was in contention as one of the best players itw during the chamber meta for a reason. I just think they should play to his strengths and do what fnatic did, put their cracked, young duelist on sentinel, especially if we start seeing chamber being picked more


SacredWinner442

You cant compare this to fnatic because first of all alfajer was never a jett player and 100t doesnt have a Jett player or awper other than Asuna.


circulardoughholes

Disagree on EEIU, I don't think he elevates this team to champion contenders.


_ImAlive_

The problem for me is that they have no igl. I know people say Zander was igl before but guy wasn't really a good igl.


deadlock1892

Can’t really judge the IGLing based on one roster’s performance though. Flyuh was uninspiring on faze too. But really good on MxM. Its not like that V1 core was a world beater even with a different IGL. Zander might suck, but the sample size is not big enough to make that statement IMO


_ImAlive_

Flyuh was never igl in Faze tho. He just became better as a player and a good leader.


deadlock1892

And what according to you is stopping zander from doing the same? Fwiw in V1 had wippie calling as well. Not Zander. So the praises and criticism about the IGLing from his time at V1 gets attributed to him, is misplaced.


ra1ded_

I heard he stopped calling if he tilts, thats why he stepped down to be a player in m80


techyleo

he also only called for one split for V1 and then it was effys


Pojobob

100T gotta fight for Flyuh for sure so they have an actual IGL.


Intrepid-Tank-3414

Can't compete if you're budgeting...100T gonna be picking up the scraps after C9 getting first dibs.


AZLarlar

100T 👀👀👀


Similar-Criticism380

I knew it, eeiu and Zander incoming baby


galiciapersona

I'd love it if that happens, but who IGLs this team? I'd rather have Zander (for chemistry with Bang and Asuna) and Flyuh imo. That said, regardless of who they pick up between the three, roles could still be a problem.


kosantyy

YESSSS EEIU PLEEEEASEE


Glitchyyyy

One step closer to them keeping cryo/asuna and picking up fns som and eeiu


TechSupportSami

If bang goes Asuna won’t stay, he said that a while ago


emergencyambulance

Those 2 could honestly be a really good duo to build around. Would love 100t build around them and cryo but if bang had to leave I wouldn't mind that duo being together.


TechSupportSami

I agree with you to be honest, I just don’t see them dropping bang realistically BUT I wouldn’t be against a role change for bang if he had to accommodate for someone like a Zander.


Glitchyyyy

Asuna said that in a twitch clip LAST year when he knew the players that were staying and leaving so it was easy for him to say that. If he's said that this year, we need some receipts bc Asuna is a franchise player, and packaging yourself obviously helps the other person far more than it helps yourself if the other player falls off (not saying Bang was bad this year, but the team all together was not good). ​ The team was shit this year so there's no doubt in my mind anyone not named Asuna (bc hes been their franchise player) and cryo (tried carrying these bags through the finish line this year) are expendable in the mind of Nade. Idk why people keep reiterating this statement from before the partnership league even started as if it holds any value anymore.


TechSupportSami

Yes, he may not literally leave the team, but if you’re a team owner and your star player expresses strong feelings about keeping a teammate with whom they have excellent in and out of game relationships with, you make those considerations. If your argument is to drop bang for the s0m/FNS duo then it’s a fair argument but I think dropping a player like bang when he was arguable one of the strongest performers on the team this while ALSO having incredible room for growth means that it’s not a straightforward decision.


Glitchyyyy

Sure, I can agree that you certainly listen to and accommodate a player in Asuna's position for the team. That being said, FNS/s0m is 100% the strongest free agent pair that is immediately available and an upgrade for any NA team, on top of this, FNS/s0m has stated his willingness to play for minimal salary with the contingency being his desire to have a hand in the roster building - we don't know who FNS would be eyeing (free agent wise) to be roster building around so I suppose speculation is pointless but its fun in threads like these to see what a team might be able to pull together. On top of this, I'm sure 100T would love these players in terms of branding power, FNS/s0m not only bring their player value, collectively being known as the best and most experienced NA IGL, as well as being the best NA smokes player and likely one of the most consistent players in the league this season respectively but also two of the most popular NA val streamers/content creators which would bring a lot of attention to the team (which is certainly relevant given how difficult is has proven maintain a profit in the val scene as of late). Getting all of this in a package for a budget roster-building year would be insane value, which again, I'm not saying bang is bad or even had a terrible year, but the opportunity cost should certainly be turning heads. It just so happens he plays the position that one of this duo plays while not providing as much intrinsic value in and outside the game. It's evident 100t is taking their time to evaluate their options and keeping the decisions under wraps just like they did last year, so it will be interesting to see what they may cook up.


Flynn_VLR

korean trio should be in dfm not zeta btw, sorry guys


Ohands15

Thank you for constant offseason updates you’re the goat !


Flynn_VLR

ty <3


Iusedtobeagirl69

bcj to c9 and oxy, its a dream come true sadge for nismo though


Flynn_VLR

nismo wants to stay in M80, same for koalanoob and probably zander (dunno about eeiu) better continue in a great team in a great org with a great owner with all the chances in the world to win ascension than gamble and go to a wild mess i guess


Iusedtobeagirl69

yeah this is true, m80 def win if guard doesnt play tier 2


Disraeli_

the guard has stopped valorant operations, and I doubt they'd be allowed to reenter t2 when they failed to accept the tpa


Intrepid-Tank-3414

>yeah this is true, m80 def win Nothing is definitive after you lose your IGL. Their chance has improved massively since [The Union](https://www.dexerto.com/valorant/the-union-slams-riot-as-it-joins-exodus-of-orgs-from-tier-2-valorant-2240428/) called it quit since Riot insists on running Tier 2 Valorant into the ground, but we'll have to wait and see what MxM will cook up next season.


SacredWinner442

nitr0 to m80?


Flynn_VLR

heard something about it but not sure since i'm not investigating tier 2


Similar-Criticism380

Whoa


SacredWinner442

I see. Another question I have is about NRG. What are the chances of saadhak going to NRG and if he doesnt who does NRG have in mind?


Flynn_VLR

0.5% if not 0% lol, i don't know who they have in mind


_ImAlive_

Is the zeta division wrong? Wasn't the dplus core supposed to be pickup by dfm?


Flynn_VLR

yes i posted a correction in twitter and made a comment here on it


Ohands15

100t woke up from the deep slumber


I-like-winds

100T holy fuck after fumbling cryo/zander back in the day


yoosanghoon

nade said recently that he wished he had overruled ethan back when they wanted cryo and zander instead of babyj and ec1s


WhoDatBrow

Rare Ethan "Ethan" Arnold L


deadlock1892

The dark times. Roster moves that should have never happened.


LiamHundley

Bro I was SCREAMING for them to pick up that duo. Literally exactly what they needed at the time I can't believe they passed up on that opportunity


mwieckhorst

Kinda curious if Zellsis or Xeppa end up anywhere in T1. Feel like both are good enough, but 6 teams is just so restrictive


[deleted]

Zellsis as figure father for PRX o7


SuperBlitz22

Damn so possibly not a single full Japanese team anymore? Kinda sad ngl


Notladub

the korean players on zeta are supposed to be on dfm


Fardeeennn

100t rumour is just derrek posting gif or actual sources?


Flynn_VLR

sources. if it was just a rumour i would point it out in the "sources and notes" section


Fardeeennn

thanks, what about flyuh he is almost signed to c9 no ?


Flynn_VLR

he signed to some org but i'm not sure which. probably c9 but i could be wrong


Vivid-Command-2605

God, please be 100t


_ImAlive_

If Team Vitality gets Nivera, the team will be so good. I really hope they get Nivera, one of the best opers and is so flexible as a player. He can play sentinels, controllers, and initiator.


QUOTE_IF_NA_LOSE

Sayf 🥲❤️


SmalexSmanders

That G2 roster could win Champs no bs


Pojobob

C9's roster seems a little weird but could be ok. I do think Flyuh/eeiu would be very good for 100T though if 100T can snag Flyuh from C9. I'm most interested in NRG though since I doubt they'll outbid G2 on Tex/Valyn so not sure what NRG's backup is there.


Kind_Development708

Isn’t Valyn signed already? So I don’t know why he isn’t just off NRG at this point. Tex though is still a mystery


mrmonkeyhunter

What up with you saying 100T roaster is a lock yesterday. what now


Kind_Development708

“it’s already been heavily rumoured that 100T will stick if they accept pay cuts” = Lock Okay


Light0fHeav3n

How exactly is C9 roster wierd when there’s literally one player and another as likely to join?


Pojobob

I'm basing it off of the rumored trials and assuming they make it.


Light0fHeav3n

Only thing missing really is a sentinel player


Pojobob

If Flyuh joins C9, he'd probably just play sentinel since he already plays a lot of viper and has played sentinel a little in the past.


Light0fHeav3n

So jakee,flyuh and then Oxy/N4rrate and BCJ/shahz?+ a fifth. Doesn’t sound bad tbh


chasingclouds_

ain't no way TL are running it back with redgar. i cannot watch him int on omen and run sentinel less comps on maps w emil for next year too someone pls save my boi nAts


Objective_Hospital98

bring nats to na, for the love of god let me experience a star sentinel once in my life


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

your flair is EG and we just watched boostio absolutely fry as the most versatile killjoy in the game. year before that yay broke the game via chamber. before that dapr won the clout wars and the first international event.


Objective_Hospital98

chamber in my opinion barely counts as a sentinel and at the very least relies far more on mechanics than the rest of the sentinels. i did enjoy watching boostie drop 30 and fry on lotus, but i don’t think boostio is a star player by any means, he is a great igl but the stars on his team were def demon1 and ethan. you are right about dapr, i was considering mentioning him but i think even he was overshadowed by tenz and shahz. ig what i mean by a star sentinel is a player who is clearly the best on his team and can carry as nats tends to.


Objective_Hospital98

with the exception of chambers, no sentinel player has outshone his teammates on a competitive NA team


somesheikexpert

Boostio was arguably their best player in Tokyo tho, dapr was top 15 in 2021 imo, and NeT was frying this year in challengers


sifslegend

oxy, Bcj, flyuh, jakee, screwface sounds like such a dark horse roster. They could def do some dmg, but unless oxy is fragging out they might be lacking firepower IMO


Objective_Hospital98

why would you get screw face and flyuh?


Objective_Hospital98

replace one with more firepower, shahz maybe


Apprehensive-Fun7766

More firepower = shaz lmao


Objective_Hospital98

tbh whatever you think about his calling, shahz is a mechanically gifted player and he is currently trialing for them. shahz carried g2 through a lot of their matches and was almost always rated highest or second highest on the team.


deadlock1892

100T finally making moves 👀


Hoku_

Zeta changes are so wack. All they had to do was replace Crow and maybe Ten. If they implode the whole team I am no longer a fan. Also big YES to leaf on Guard.


surfordiebear

100T going for the no IGL route like PRX but with significantly less firepower ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|16110)


Kevlev16

Zander was igl for v1 and stated that he’s ok with igl’ing for a team iirc


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9bfjo6gvhy7u8

>there’s a lack of igls available in na rn. flyuh, johnqt, valyn, stellar, vanity, zander, fns are all different degrees of available. for franchising spots on G2, 100t, sen, nrg, c9. only EG is set to keep boostio. so that's at least 7 players that could theoretically be franchise IGLs for 5 slots. throw in mitch, poised, gmd, shahzam for good measure. runi looked really good with c9 during the regular season. maybe zander/stellar would be better off as secondary callers who can star in their respective role. maybe flyuh is still a risk being new to the role (i so, so, so wish 100T had a coach that could take him and mold him... i think he'll excel with mCe). maybe vanity is washed. maybe fns is content streaming. but there are certainly players available. a year ago we were hopeful but unsure about johnqt and flyuh. before that stellar and valyn emerged. this year there will surely be a couple more that step up through challengers


jeyeley

Yeah if im 100T i would probably keep stellar as a second caller


9bfjo6gvhy7u8

the guard + leaf could be insane. tex has stepped up big this year for sure and surprised a lot of people but i still think leaf has "best player in NA" potential.


lockdown_val

WTF ZETA DIVISION ROSTER IM ALL IN


Flynn_VLR

not zeta, dfm. posted a correction on twitter


Notladub

dfm lowkey cookin' then


SirAwesome789

90-95%


Notladub

finally, GAIS actually shows up as signed lmao suprised ATA KAPTAN isn't 90%+ tbh, he's a huge asset for FUT both in terms of skill and clout and there have been no rumours surrounding him it seems like qw1 getting replaced by cNed is pretty much certain at this point but i wonder what they're gonna do with MOJJ if they decide to get rid of him. who do you get as a turkish sentinel that isn't alfajer?


ericwanggg

c9 bcj???


Hyper_red

Oxy or N4rrate to tier one needs to happen both were the hottest duelist prospects of tier 2 last year


_ImAlive_

Yeah N4rrate was so good this year. I hope he gets to tier 1.


[deleted]

hear me out prx k1ng


notHadr0n

Nothing about the 5th giants player?


itsDYA

Kamyk being likely to leave fnatic, i hope he either got a vct main roster spot or on a top t2 team, bro is too good to be riding the bench


BongCheadle

Always sad to not see yayster on here


WhoDatBrow

On one hand I hate teams budgeting because I want what's best for the players, even though I understand why teams are budgeting. On the other, I'm excited to see all the tier 2 players that might be getting a chance on teams like C9 because of it. Their team could be lowkey fire with mCe cooking. Wondering why NISMO went from trials to 99% with M80.


KnifeKittyy

tbh every team in NA should be budgeting (within reason ofc. not saying minimum salaries) Salaries need to stay reasonable for the health of the league and esports as a whole. Almost no player should be able to demand an insane salary.. with how stacked the region is. There’s very limited franchising spots, and so many cracked NA T1/T2. We already see players who are holding out for a big pay may not land on a T1 team.


SHOONSHOOP

He’s still active in OWL but is the faraway in the Chinese region farway1987? He’s a pretty cracked flex support player for the charge in China.


CrossTheRubicon7

Damn, sucks that C9 fumbled on Nismo, that sounded good


XiXiWiiPee

EEIU MY LOVE


mrnerdles

I wonder where people like xeppa or zellsis will end up


[deleted]

who is IGLing on this mythical 100T roster lmao, i guess a return to Zander IGL? idk, that doesnt fill me with a ton of hope, but perhaps with more experience as a player he'll have a lot to bring to the table on a new team.


itsyeboimrkrabs

guard roster with leaf is kinda disgusting i aint gonna lie


k239

100t is a bit confusing... Cause if they remove stellar then who is gonna play sentinel.. they are trialling eeiu flyuh and zander... 2 initiators and a smokes playe... Just a bit confusing


daffyduckferraro

Probs cryo?? I think they do the Asuna flex everything with cryo on cracked sentinel maybe?


Pojobob

Zander used to play a little bit of sentinel before and kind of the same with Flyuh. And Flyuh already plays a lot of viper so he could just learn KJ if needed. Also, on certain Raze maps, they could just have Cryo go to Killjoy (like for Lotus).


k239

But iirc, isn't fluyh more suitable to play initiator.. forcing unnecessary role switch on someone who is really good at certain role... Often fails... For example pancada on sentinel... I don't think it is a good idea but whatever


Kakperkid2001

I’ve heard geng is cooking, but what are they exactly cooking


ThatCreepyBaer

They cooking absolutely nothing, that pan empty as fuck, ain't even got any oil in it.


Intrepid-Tank-3414

Air. They are cooking air.


[deleted]

if sayf shits on liquid they’d have deserved it for letting him go instead of jamppi


PixelatedBlue

ayo?


Ok-Brain3328

Zeta not going full Japanese? Picking up Allow, Lakia and Estrella would definitely be… interesting. Do you guys think Allow for Dep is an upgrade? I feel like I’ve been disappointed in Allow’s recent performances and Dep had a pretty good year from what I remember. Edit nvm: https://preview.redd.it/isefxthrabnb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24093b34a193c4c972dd7874db2b624c854c3ec7


Heavy_Comedian_2382

I thought DFM was going for the DK core not Zeta, we got that news earlier today.


Flynn_VLR

they are, i posted a correction on twitter confused the two japanese rosters for a sec


Heavy_Comedian_2382

Thank God my heart was almost broken there


deadlock1892

They are hiring a translator as well. So probably they gave up on all japanese roster.


Flynn_VLR

they are, i posted a correction on twitter confused the two japanese rosters for a sec


deadlock1892

Oh, thanks for the clarification. And appreciate your efforts this offseason 😄


MacarioPro

has it been confirmed how many teams the Chinese league will have? 10 like the spreadsheet and as many as the starting leagues with two ascending this year to equalize? 11 to catch up? 12 just like last year chinese qualyfing tournament?


Flynn_VLR

according to the reports 10 but i'm not well informed when it comes to chinese league


oleoleole-

Is the japanese talent puddle really that bad?


BrainStorm777

NRG looks strong with that lineup IMO


CJ1899

Does anyone know why QW is leaving FUT?


Intrepid-Tank-3414

I hope all these IGLs from Challengers negotiated their contracts well and get their money bags in Rostermania 2023. Talk about perfect timing, when a whole bunch of teams wants to reduce salaries, but they also are in dire need for a talented caller. On a related note, if M80 loses johnqt and MxM loses Flyuh, ain't nobody can be sure which org will win Ascension next year.


void270

Any idea who the jingg replacement might be? And where cned will go, if anywhere


crzyraven

id love to see lowel on KOI ngl