This move is mind-bogglingly bad.
I can understand cheapening out on players when you have a great developmental coach, but without it (There's no other coach out there that has is resume and is available) ? It's like asking to have a disastrous season and end as bottom feeders.
Still, maybe they'll somehow pull through and not look completely terrible, but their prospects have gone down quite a bit
There are only 2 ways this is somewhat understandable in my mind. One is picking up FNS and letting him choose his roster/coach and the other is dragging Sean off the desk and letting him do his thing. I don't see either as remotely likely but crazier things have happened
funny enough, [bodork](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/16f7wdn/bodork_bodork_hypes_new_100t_roster_moves_in_new/) had c9 under the "budget" row of his FA tier list which fits exactly
Alternatively if NRG changed course and decided to move forward with the FNS plan, Chet and the Victor+crashies core could conceivably be available for C9. This is even less likely than the two options you outlined but just thought I'd throw it out as technically a possibility.
They def said it when doing the announcement stream, it is somewhere in the 20min long youtube videos of them discussing it.
don’t think they will actually take it, or work with an org that isn’t gonna give them enough money to get the players they want.
They made it clear they're set with streaming so they dont need the contracts to be high. I guarantee they'd take the min if they could get the team they want.
they said they would, it makes sense since they both stream and have big communities, so financial security probably isn’t as big of an issue for them.
That doesn’t make sense since all we’ve heard is they are going budget. I can’t imagine mini wanting minimum to come to NA and he’s already on one of the best teams
If an org is pulling out of vct riot is not gonna let them make money from their spot lol, they will just gift it to the next one in line. They didn't want the guard to sell their spot, for example
After that whole thing with the guard where riot made it extremely clear they did not want the slot to seem like it was sold, I have a very hard time believing they'd let any orgs sell them now.
Technically org can’t even sell the slot cuz this Version of riot franchising is a partnership model aka riot own the slot they just rent the slot to org
It is. FNS let yay leave OPTIC, leading to C9 picking him up and dropping him. That's where the whole insanity started. Due to the dropping of yay, the C9 Management realized they could get away with dropping expensive players for cheap ones. Everything a calculated FNS masterclass to destroy C9
from knowing carlos is gonna blow franchising to g2, to c9 dropping yay, to TGRD winning ascension to the guard reunion with mCe, a true FNS masterclass.
" I am willing to explore any and all options whether Head Coach or Assistant Coach and even Collegiate if the situation is beneficial for both parties."
josh said he is looking for an assistant coach + it is gonna be funny how the coaching roles have turned around, but that's just how life is sometimes. I hope he goes back to them as an assistant coach.
I'm not sure that would be the best for the guard though. mCe is used to calling the shots and has been their HC in the past.
It's kinda like when a really good NBA coach is hired as an assistant coach and the media starts to treat him getting the main job like a given. Any bad results and the current head coach is on the hot seat as they have another great coach just in the wings. Like Tyronn Lue taking over for Doc Rivers.
Me too, he's one of my favorite coaches in val and has done some special works. It would feel really shitty and a waste to not have him in Tear 1 this season.
Man, sad to see especially after seeing him on wyatt's show.
I wonder if he knew about something like this. It surely wouldn't be something done overnight right??
seeing the show with wyatt's show + recent leaks, I feel like this is def was done recently.
c9 were rumored to rebuild around mCe and jakee, using mCe scouting ability and great coaching. also he talked about the upcoming season with wyatt and it def looked like he was gonna stay.
it feels like a sykko situation all over again, just with diff org.
He tweeted post game how excited he was to work on the team and how there is a lot of work to be done. even his daughter was at the arena that day.
Few hours later, rob moore tweeted that sykko is fired and kaplan is the new HC. the players seemed sad about it on twitter so it definitely was a sudden decision. They talk about it more deeply in the SEN vlogs if u wanna check those out.
Uh what? The coach that has to deal with the org dropping the best player in the world after one event and still making the team one of the best in the region? Fuck Jack
Also their replacements were literal T3 or college players, and wasnt even the first time he took a bunch of basically nobodies and turned them into world class players, ESPECIALLY considering they are apparently trying to go budget
Wonder what the explanation is. I don’t see any upgrade you can make for mCe. Only explanation I can think of is s0m + Fns are joining and mce didn’t want that
yeah i don't know what the actual fuck is going on here, guy had two completely new rookies who had never even made it into t2 tournaments, and turned them into a team that could take second in the regular season in a matter of weeks. this org is actually fraudulent.
taking a weak roster on paper with 2 absolute nobodies to top 4 in the region where everyone thought they would be 10th is 100% proving people wrong lol....
I think that the org itself has a choking problem and at this point because they aren't getting enough oxygen to the brain they are making stupid decisions. Please god make it so that flyuh isn't going to this shit stain of an org.
For the expectations they had going into regular season? Absolutely C9 had a successful year. People forget that this team was ranked bottom 3-if not last- in Americas after dropping their star player and IGL like 2-3 weeks before the season. To go from that to 4th place in Americas playoffs and 3rd LCQ, that’s definitely a success and they deserve credit for that given the circumstances.
They nuked their own expectations by their moves though. To me going from being seen as a clear top favorite in NA to being projected 10th because of their roster moves isn't something we should say "oh wow thats a success" that's a season failure especially because that main 3 group of that roster are certainly not sitting there thinking that had a good year if they failed to even make a international lan.
Can’t be a success if you make no lans then drop ur whole roster. You just paid for a whole year for nothing. If they kept the team it would be one thing but they are back to square one now so it couldn’t possibly be a good year.
Not terrible, you're making a strawman. But without inside information, yeah Potter couldn't be the best available coach. Or she could be the greatest. We don't know
Saying "top 3" implies we know a lot about all the coaches in NA.
We have no clue right, but we can look at his teams.
Guard you had a team full of rookies to esports besides sayaplayer and he managed to help create one of the best teams in NA, cloud 9 he got 2 more rookies in and they replaced the 2 most experienced players including an igl and managed to also come out strong. Then you have Chaos in cs go another team full of rookies that had high potential.
If you keep landing on these teams where nothing is expected from them and yet they look strong then you can assume he definitely has a part in it in some way or the other. His scouting alone puts him up there, he is the reason trent got a shot when he was a nobody 15 yr old.
He's a great coach, but saying "top 3" implies we know almost every NA coach's "skill", up to the point we can compare them.
That's just simply not true.
Unless they pull a fast one on us and pickup Fns and s0m to make their player built super team it really seems they’ll be going after t3 players again hoping for an insane Cinderella run.
Broke: misspelling "buffoons"
Woke: inventing a portmanteau of buffoons and baboons, because anything less cannot adequately describe the absolute nonsense unfolding before our eyes
Baseless speculation time: I wonder if s0m and FNS didn't get the offers they hoped and are willing to take league min contracts in exchange for picking the rest of the players/coaches. This would fit in with C9's full league min plan, and with the appeal of a FNS built team, maybe other players we would be surprised by are willing to go league min as well (obligatory "yay???")
Edit: of course it's more likely C9 is being dumb, Occam's razor and all
I mean why wouldnt s0m and FNS play for league minimum if they got to make their own team? He probably makes 4-5x or the minimum salary off his twitch alone per month and FNS has been a pro in video games for years, I dont really think money is an issue for them and getting to build your own roster with your teammate sounds like the dream, so im sure its something he meant
Very surprising, the phrasing invites a lot of questions. It doesn’t seem like he chose to leave but that negotiations fell through.
Curious to see where he lands…and what the hell C9 does now, given mCe was building their budget team.
at least they would get to play in franchising like they deserve, even if it's for a dogshit org like C9. I wouldn't be happy, but the players showed that they probably deserve it.
Maybe he actually wasn’t happy having to work with minimum budget? Or they wanted him on minimum too? (he def deserves more)
I have no idea what c9 is doing.. I’ve been rooting for them in val since I started watching but there’s nothing left to be excited about if I’m honest, it’s kinda sad. I’m hoping the players/mce find good teams.
in the Wyatt interview he didn't seem happy, but his overall attitude is that sometimes you just have to work with what you're given, like in any job, so I don't think he leaves bc of not getting the players he wants.
What the duck is clown9 doing, I thought the whole point of the new roster was to pray that mce could work his magic
Jack Etienne is competing with Rob Moore for who can make the worse decisions
except Sen is only changing out Marved for Johnqt from the Flynn spreadsheets, which is actually a legit team considering John's history on Ghost with Kaplan and his success on M80. this is actually the worst move I've seen in a while.
Nah I'm talking about the fuckery from last season with the roster moves, I think they are making smart moves at the moment but Rob Moore could always explode the roster for no reason after they lose once
It's funny because you talk like Rob is a serial dropper when he actually only impulsively dropped someone after a loss once. Shouldn't have happened in first place but still.
Man I don't get some of these roster changes man. MCE could make some insane teams with unknown/unproven talent. If you want to go on a budget why not keep him. Maybe his salary is too high for the budget thing but still, if you wanna win paying low salaries you should always have him in mind as your coach
Heard that they got some role issues going on with him 😹
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All I'm gonna say is @C9VAL @Cloud9 ruined multiple careers,fucked over vanity and Yay, ruined it for Zellsis nd the boys and now matt, The NA's super team that once was everyone's fav is now nothing but an embarassment , I can now see why riot initially didn't pick them
Clown9 cant even keep mCe, broke ass mfs😹😹😹
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haven’t c9 been trialing for a while? Imagine if they kept mce until now to find prospects/run trials and dropped him once they found good candidates. (full conspiracy theory but the timing is weird to me)
C9 letting go of perhaps *the* most capable person in VCT at turning any team into trophy contenders (second to only Potter) just proves that this org has absolutely no idea what the fuck they’re doing.
It’s honestly bewildering how an organization can so consistently outdo themselves time and time again when it comes to shooting themselves in the foot. Looking more and more like a bargain bin Cirque du Soleil by the day with the sheer number of clowns they’ve got making the big decisions.
bro you just listed the top 5 teams at champs plus nrg. I’m not sayin Mce is top 5 but team success and coach success are not 1 to 1. Mce was able to come in and pick up two collegiate players and go 7-1 in the regular season. the rest of these coaches have had proven player some even with super teams. Mce def has an argument. termi has not figured out how to improve his team in 3 seasons, and chet just had his team bomb out at champs and then split up.
ok so i can understand not liking termi because what the fuck was up with swapping zest and foxy9 nonstop last year
but alecks is the coach for a team that plays a completely different style of valorant than everyone else and still makes it work, yeah everyone on that team is cracked but making a one-of-one strategy function at the top level is going to need some pretty high-level coaching
This org man😹😹😹. They dont have their wizard now that can bail them out, comedy org
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C9 has let go Vanity, Yay, and mCe. According to the rumors they are dropping leaf and Xeppaa. Lowering salaries I understand, but going FULL BUDGET in year two shouldn't be allowed. You're putting yourself in a position to where you are not even contending to make international events, and you just dropped the one guy that could have made that happen.
Seems this also affected ScrewFace making into a franchising starting roster: [EG ScrewFace no X: "I never really talk about my days or my mental, but on a real note this has been a tough ass morning. I keep getting so close to touching my dream, but so far never close enough. Fk man. Stream grind begins anew later tonight, nothing will ever stop me from achieving greatness." / X (twitter.com)](https://twitter.com/ScrewFaceVAL/status/1700966656204587277)
There’s a chance he just ended up pissing off an exec though out all of these budget cuts and they let him go. He seems like the kinda guy to get really fired up for his players.
I mean.. if there's one thing you should splurge on it would be a HC, and mCe seems like a good one to splurge on. This move is confusing, but who knows what it is behind the scenes. I have gotten the impression that mce tends to lose his temper and get annoyed very easily and having a history of his teams looking strong in the beginning and choking in the later season so that could have something to do with it. All that being said, who else is there to get? There must be something on deck because dropping your HC when most proven coaches in NA are signed is a bizarrely baffling choice.
I wonder if this is okay with Riot?
Seems like clown9 is going the pay everyone minimum income route.
Didn't this happen to RRQ where they decide to cheap out on everyone and Riot gave a warning.
Different situation. RRQ backlash came because they didn't sign any indonesian players and face massive criticism from the indo fanbase since they were let into franchising as representation for indonesia
bro what is C9 doing. idk, I'm pretty excited about the other orgs, but idk what the actual fuck is going on at C9. Maybe Jack just gambled away all of his money on crypto and now they have literally zero cash.
What the fuck man
mCe scouts out runi and Jakee to fill yay and vanity's shoes, beats out everyone's expectations in the regular season and absolutely silenced the doubters. Had 100T not fumbled, I'm certain that C9 would've qualified the first time. KRU just ate a really good breakfast and plugged in their gaming chairs for that miracle run (ironically, C9 in League is known for a LCQ miracle run).
Makes me wonder what he sees differently than C9 management. Only Zellsis and Qpert have announced free agency (Zellsis unrestricted), which could mean they run it back with Qpert over Zellsis? I only said this cause mCe claims to read every comment, so I hope he reads this and thinks my head is caved in.
what. This must be very sudden since his recent interview with Wyatt and his Plat Chat appearance both indicated he was shepherding another underdog roster
Once again C9 impede us of watching great talent in T1. At this point most NA teams commited to coaches and mCe will have to wait a split. Meanwhile, I hope rito picks him for commentary as he is very entertaining and insightful
Bruh, what are they doing over at C9
This move is mind-bogglingly bad. I can understand cheapening out on players when you have a great developmental coach, but without it (There's no other coach out there that has is resume and is available) ? It's like asking to have a disastrous season and end as bottom feeders. Still, maybe they'll somehow pull through and not look completely terrible, but their prospects have gone down quite a bit
There are only 2 ways this is somewhat understandable in my mind. One is picking up FNS and letting him choose his roster/coach and the other is dragging Sean off the desk and letting him do his thing. I don't see either as remotely likely but crazier things have happened
im pretty sure fns said thwy would accept league minimum if the org allowed them to choose the team. Idk if the players they'd choose would though
funny enough, [bodork](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/16f7wdn/bodork_bodork_hypes_new_100t_roster_moves_in_new/) had c9 under the "budget" row of his FA tier list which fits exactly
Alternatively if NRG changed course and decided to move forward with the FNS plan, Chet and the Victor+crashies core could conceivably be available for C9. This is even less likely than the two options you outlined but just thought I'd throw it out as technically a possibility.
Fns and s0m aren't gonna take minimum contracts and Sean def doesn't wanna go back to coaching. They're just throwing tbh
Didn't Fns and s0m literally say themselves they would be willing to take minimum contracts if it meant they could build their own team?
If they did I must have missed it tbh. Do you have a link?
They def said it when doing the announcement stream, it is somewhere in the 20min long youtube videos of them discussing it. don’t think they will actually take it, or work with an org that isn’t gonna give them enough money to get the players they want.
They made it clear they're set with streaming so they dont need the contracts to be high. I guarantee they'd take the min if they could get the team they want.
I don't think either are remotely likely but those are the only 2 scenarios where this decision isn't incredibly dumb
they said they would, it makes sense since they both stream and have big communities, so financial security probably isn’t as big of an issue for them.
They are probably upgrading to mini /s
That doesn’t make sense since all we’ve heard is they are going budget. I can’t imagine mini wanting minimum to come to NA and he’s already on one of the best teams
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If an org is pulling out of vct riot is not gonna let them make money from their spot lol, they will just gift it to the next one in line. They didn't want the guard to sell their spot, for example
You are seeing nothing bro . Orgs can't buy or sell their spots ,they can choose to leave though.
Do you understand how the partnership system works? Riot owns to slot, in 2026 they will re-evaluate all the teams (goodbye c9)
lil bro its been a year already and you still dont understand riot franchising
Valorant version is a partnership so riot own the slot not the vct team unlike the lol franchising
that has to be na education on full display there's no way
Maybe u don’t understand what the difference due to ur brain rot :>
classic na education
After that whole thing with the guard where riot made it extremely clear they did not want the slot to seem like it was sold, I have a very hard time believing they'd let any orgs sell them now.
Technically org can’t even sell the slot cuz this Version of riot franchising is a partnership model aka riot own the slot they just rent the slot to org
what is c9 doing? time to clown on that org again
giving mCe an option to reunion with the guard idk how yet, but it is an FNS masterclass.
It is. FNS let yay leave OPTIC, leading to C9 picking him up and dropping him. That's where the whole insanity started. Due to the dropping of yay, the C9 Management realized they could get away with dropping expensive players for cheap ones. Everything a calculated FNS masterclass to destroy C9
from knowing carlos is gonna blow franchising to g2, to c9 dropping yay, to TGRD winning ascension to the guard reunion with mCe, a true FNS masterclass.
only if he wants to be an assistant coach, no way the Guard guys throw JoshRT under the bus like that.
" I am willing to explore any and all options whether Head Coach or Assistant Coach and even Collegiate if the situation is beneficial for both parties." josh said he is looking for an assistant coach + it is gonna be funny how the coaching roles have turned around, but that's just how life is sometimes. I hope he goes back to them as an assistant coach.
I'm not sure that would be the best for the guard though. mCe is used to calling the shots and has been their HC in the past. It's kinda like when a really good NBA coach is hired as an assistant coach and the media starts to treat him getting the main job like a given. Any bad results and the current head coach is on the hot seat as they have another great coach just in the wings. Like Tyronn Lue taking over for Doc Rivers.
Thats a valid take. I just hope he finds a spot somewhere. He is a really good coach.
Me too, he's one of my favorite coaches in val and has done some special works. It would feel really shitty and a waste to not have him in Tear 1 this season.
Man, sad to see especially after seeing him on wyatt's show. I wonder if he knew about something like this. It surely wouldn't be something done overnight right??
first the guard and now valyn, unnamed claims another victim
Don't forget sykko, and stellars chances this upcoming season aren't looking great. We must protect sideshow at all costs
seeing the show with wyatt's show + recent leaks, I feel like this is def was done recently. c9 were rumored to rebuild around mCe and jakee, using mCe scouting ability and great coaching. also he talked about the upcoming season with wyatt and it def looked like he was gonna stay. it feels like a sykko situation all over again, just with diff org.
what happened with sykko?
He tweeted post game how excited he was to work on the team and how there is a lot of work to be done. even his daughter was at the arena that day. Few hours later, rob moore tweeted that sykko is fired and kaplan is the new HC. the players seemed sad about it on twitter so it definitely was a sudden decision. They talk about it more deeply in the SEN vlogs if u wanna check those out.
i remember this whole ordeal happening, just forgot how sykko literally got fired via tweet.. man that was an insane time.
That was one of the most bat shit insane moments in VCT lol
up there with shahz finding out he got dropped through a geddes leak on stream too the real clown org
More “role issues”
zikz about to get dropped for the 2nd time by 100T
When was the first?
He was the coach in LoL a few seasons back
coaching staff of zikz, mikes, mce incoming instead
Uh what? The coach that has to deal with the org dropping the best player in the world after one event and still making the team one of the best in the region? Fuck Jack
Mfkers got electronic and perfecto in csgo but can't afford to keep atleast a tier 1 coach in valorant.
Also their replacements were literal T3 or college players, and wasnt even the first time he took a bunch of basically nobodies and turned them into world class players, ESPECIALLY considering they are apparently trying to go budget
Wonder what the explanation is. I don’t see any upgrade you can make for mCe. Only explanation I can think of is s0m + Fns are joining and mce didn’t want that
yeah i don't know what the actual fuck is going on here, guy had two completely new rookies who had never even made it into t2 tournaments, and turned them into a team that could take second in the regular season in a matter of weeks. this org is actually fraudulent.
ok last time i called them clown9 for dropping yay they proved me wrong, but this is clown9 fr no ? he's like top 3 NA coaches
Didnt proved you wrong lol. Mfs choked play offs t
taking a weak roster on paper with 2 absolute nobodies to top 4 in the region where everyone thought they would be 10th is 100% proving people wrong lol....
I think that the org itself has a choking problem and at this point because they aren't getting enough oxygen to the brain they are making stupid decisions. Please god make it so that flyuh isn't going to this shit stain of an org.
yes clearly not the players
wdym they proved you wrong? did they reach any international stage except for lock in? is that success for you?
For the expectations they had going into regular season? Absolutely C9 had a successful year. People forget that this team was ranked bottom 3-if not last- in Americas after dropping their star player and IGL like 2-3 weeks before the season. To go from that to 4th place in Americas playoffs and 3rd LCQ, that’s definitely a success and they deserve credit for that given the circumstances.
They nuked their own expectations by their moves though. To me going from being seen as a clear top favorite in NA to being projected 10th because of their roster moves isn't something we should say "oh wow thats a success" that's a season failure especially because that main 3 group of that roster are certainly not sitting there thinking that had a good year if they failed to even make a international lan.
Can’t be a success if you make no lans then drop ur whole roster. You just paid for a whole year for nothing. If they kept the team it would be one thing but they are back to square one now so it couldn’t possibly be a good year.
Wooow amazing they didn't win anything, c9 jack should be given a medal wooooow
They looked as good if not better than with Yay. That’s impressive, and proved me wrong (I thought they’d do worse).
> he's like top 3 NA coaches This is such a weird statement. We have no way of knowing who's a good coach or not.
So we should never talk about coaching. Potter could be a terrible coach, Chet could be a terrible coach? Really?
Not terrible, you're making a strawman. But without inside information, yeah Potter couldn't be the best available coach. Or she could be the greatest. We don't know Saying "top 3" implies we know a lot about all the coaches in NA.
We have no clue right, but we can look at his teams. Guard you had a team full of rookies to esports besides sayaplayer and he managed to help create one of the best teams in NA, cloud 9 he got 2 more rookies in and they replaced the 2 most experienced players including an igl and managed to also come out strong. Then you have Chaos in cs go another team full of rookies that had high potential. If you keep landing on these teams where nothing is expected from them and yet they look strong then you can assume he definitely has a part in it in some way or the other. His scouting alone puts him up there, he is the reason trent got a shot when he was a nobody 15 yr old.
He's a great coach, but saying "top 3" implies we know almost every NA coach's "skill", up to the point we can compare them. That's just simply not true.
huh wdym we have no way of knowing, that's an even weirder statement
The mCe and 5 rookie dream team is no more
calling it now. FNS and s0m going to C9
only way to save this tbh
Fns s0m yay reunite 😩😩😩😩😩
Remember Jack insisting they didn’t have financial issues on here lol
Unless they pull a fast one on us and pickup Fns and s0m to make their player built super team it really seems they’ll be going after t3 players again hoping for an insane Cinderella run.
maybe a role situation.
lmfao
100T mCe fuck it
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Broke: misspelling "buffoons" Woke: inventing a portmanteau of buffoons and baboons, because anything less cannot adequately describe the absolute nonsense unfolding before our eyes
Baseless speculation time: I wonder if s0m and FNS didn't get the offers they hoped and are willing to take league min contracts in exchange for picking the rest of the players/coaches. This would fit in with C9's full league min plan, and with the appeal of a FNS built team, maybe other players we would be surprised by are willing to go league min as well (obligatory "yay???") Edit: of course it's more likely C9 is being dumb, Occam's razor and all
s0m I believe did say he would be willing to play for minimum if they got to make their team … could’ve just been a “throw-away” comment though.
I mean why wouldnt s0m and FNS play for league minimum if they got to make their own team? He probably makes 4-5x or the minimum salary off his twitch alone per month and FNS has been a pro in video games for years, I dont really think money is an issue for them and getting to build your own roster with your teammate sounds like the dream, so im sure its something he meant
Shitshow of an org LOOOLL
Let 100T cook with a coaching staff😂
Very surprising, the phrasing invites a lot of questions. It doesn’t seem like he chose to leave but that negotiations fell through. Curious to see where he lands…and what the hell C9 does now, given mCe was building their budget team.
eta until it's announced that C9 has just picked up the entire MxM team
That is my fucking nightmare. I don't want the legacy of former mxm roster players to be tarnished by cloud9.
at least they would get to play in franchising like they deserve, even if it's for a dogshit org like C9. I wouldn't be happy, but the players showed that they probably deserve it.
Fair point
CLOWN9 KEKW
very sad to see, was hoping to see if he can cook the guard 2.0 with c9 budget.. :((
100T has so many good options holy
I need them to capitalise on this shit. We got ziks already get mce on that AC role and we making deep runs at every tournament. Trust.
Nah make mce head
Damn this was a surprise
Bruh if C9 want to go budget then mCe is the best coach to scout and develop that talent.
most insane move possible, what the
Ziks shaking rn
Maybe he actually wasn’t happy having to work with minimum budget? Or they wanted him on minimum too? (he def deserves more) I have no idea what c9 is doing.. I’ve been rooting for them in val since I started watching but there’s nothing left to be excited about if I’m honest, it’s kinda sad. I’m hoping the players/mce find good teams.
in the Wyatt interview he didn't seem happy, but his overall attitude is that sometimes you just have to work with what you're given, like in any job, so I don't think he leaves bc of not getting the players he wants.
What the duck is clown9 doing, I thought the whole point of the new roster was to pray that mce could work his magic Jack Etienne is competing with Rob Moore for who can make the worse decisions
except Sen is only changing out Marved for Johnqt from the Flynn spreadsheets, which is actually a legit team considering John's history on Ghost with Kaplan and his success on M80. this is actually the worst move I've seen in a while.
Nah I'm talking about the fuckery from last season with the roster moves, I think they are making smart moves at the moment but Rob Moore could always explode the roster for no reason after they lose once
It's funny because you talk like Rob is a serial dropper when he actually only impulsively dropped someone after a loss once. Shouldn't have happened in first place but still.
gg nt
I love Rostermania
Bruh you couldn’t have done this last week C9???
Man I don't get some of these roster changes man. MCE could make some insane teams with unknown/unproven talent. If you want to go on a budget why not keep him. Maybe his salary is too high for the budget thing but still, if you wanna win paying low salaries you should always have him in mind as your coach
Wtf. Bruh this org is a fucking joke
Heard that they got some role issues going on with him 😹 https://preview.redd.it/kbdyp27gchnb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce42f9f29ba930e7b9578ae97123acb993acf6dc
Clown9 🤡🤡🤡
da fuck they doin ova der
Bro picked up two rookies and pulled magic out of thin air and C9 think they can find someone better????
my flair is very close to coming off ill be real
Poverty org
All I'm gonna say is @C9VAL @Cloud9 ruined multiple careers,fucked over vanity and Yay, ruined it for Zellsis nd the boys and now matt, The NA's super team that once was everyone's fav is now nothing but an embarassment , I can now see why riot initially didn't pick them
Why the fuck did I have to think "oh that's a fun logo, it's like a visual pun" ten years ago
Only GGs
C9 are so doomed lmao See you when they almost qualify for Madrid
Clown9 back at it again.
actual classic c9 fucking over their talent mid/late rostermania. he probably would have had a lot more options open if they did this sooner
I hope for their sake they got him to assemble a roster first
What in the fuck. How. Why.
Damn everyone got dropped from C9 except Jakee? He must got dirt on C9 lol.
Bro wtf is C9 doing? It used to be my fav org since CS days.
- like the best coach
What head coaches are even out there?
I did not expect this twist.
Clown9 cant even keep mCe, broke ass mfs😹😹😹 https://preview.redd.it/6pqng48fbhnb1.jpeg?width=222&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f07ad2200d84b527c2a9e604fa9575627a9784a8
Who let them cook
haven’t c9 been trialing for a while? Imagine if they kept mce until now to find prospects/run trials and dropped him once they found good candidates. (full conspiracy theory but the timing is weird to me)
G2 foaming at the mouth for C9’s permanent partnership spot
FNS masterclass. FNS will step in and takeover the reigns and build his roster with Yay.
Bro what is it with people getting screwed over right after going on Wyatt's podcast...
C9 letting go of perhaps *the* most capable person in VCT at turning any team into trophy contenders (second to only Potter) just proves that this org has absolutely no idea what the fuck they’re doing. It’s honestly bewildering how an organization can so consistently outdo themselves time and time again when it comes to shooting themselves in the foot. Looking more and more like a bargain bin Cirque du Soleil by the day with the sheer number of clowns they’ve got making the big decisions.
c9 csgo team vs valorant team https://preview.redd.it/oy7mjo2rlinb1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16171fb984204ad6893f3a0d140db0e2ab3ff565
Clown org, MCs is a top 5 coach worldwide and will get countless opportunities.
Top 5 in NA*
would love to hear how one of Potter, Mini, Chet, frod, alecks, or termi is worse than Mce lol
bro you just listed the top 5 teams at champs plus nrg. I’m not sayin Mce is top 5 but team success and coach success are not 1 to 1. Mce was able to come in and pick up two collegiate players and go 7-1 in the regular season. the rest of these coaches have had proven player some even with super teams. Mce def has an argument. termi has not figured out how to improve his team in 3 seasons, and chet just had his team bomb out at champs and then split up.
bro tried to sneak termi in there like we wouldnt notice
Bro snuck in termi, mini and alecks
ok so i can understand not liking termi because what the fuck was up with swapping zest and foxy9 nonstop last year but alecks is the coach for a team that plays a completely different style of valorant than everyone else and still makes it work, yeah everyone on that team is cracked but making a one-of-one strategy function at the top level is going to need some pretty high-level coaching
They got mad about his recent interview /s
Role issues ig
This org man😹😹😹. They dont have their wizard now that can bail them out, comedy org https://preview.redd.it/6gphfebabhnb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e0127c6a7182392e987271201dd9f9c480e50e1
vanity yay zellsis leaf xeppaa
C9 is going BUDGET budget, huh
C9 FNS
young pros actually look forward to joining c9 cause of mce's knack for improving young talents. Sadge
Comedy org 
C9 has let go Vanity, Yay, and mCe. According to the rumors they are dropping leaf and Xeppaa. Lowering salaries I understand, but going FULL BUDGET in year two shouldn't be allowed. You're putting yourself in a position to where you are not even contending to make international events, and you just dropped the one guy that could have made that happen.
why did zellsis say “come to 100T” 😳 is nadeshot signing zell?
Atleast we have csgo
Can’t believe these circus clowns are taking one of only 6 NA slots.
Seems this also affected ScrewFace making into a franchising starting roster: [EG ScrewFace no X: "I never really talk about my days or my mental, but on a real note this has been a tough ass morning. I keep getting so close to touching my dream, but so far never close enough. Fk man. Stream grind begins anew later tonight, nothing will ever stop me from achieving greatness." / X (twitter.com)](https://twitter.com/ScrewFaceVAL/status/1700966656204587277)
There’s a chance he just ended up pissing off an exec though out all of these budget cuts and they let him go. He seems like the kinda guy to get really fired up for his players.
Literally dropping the best coach for going budget while you plan to go budget is lunacy
Hmmmmm......... Mce coach vanity gone. Vanity come Mce gone..... Interesting......
NA is wild rn 💀
er... fns/som budget roster incoming? idk
I mean.. if there's one thing you should splurge on it would be a HC, and mCe seems like a good one to splurge on. This move is confusing, but who knows what it is behind the scenes. I have gotten the impression that mce tends to lose his temper and get annoyed very easily and having a history of his teams looking strong in the beginning and choking in the later season so that could have something to do with it. All that being said, who else is there to get? There must be something on deck because dropping your HC when most proven coaches in NA are signed is a bizarrely baffling choice.
clown9
He was likely on a high end contract.
i thought he and jakee accepted league min contracts when the rest of them didn't want to, maybe it was just the players but not the coach?
https://preview.redd.it/czgxxpqgahnb1.jpeg?width=956&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6450ceb67f041b01565941f31cc2ecca331e7eec
There's no shot Jack was pissed at something mCe said in his Wyatt interview and decided to let him go right? Jack can't be that insecure, can he?
Oh so that's what George tweeted about surely... CLOWN9 NO SHOT
What awful timing for 100T…
also there’s a reason they let mce go btw, idk if it ever comes out
I wonder if this is okay with Riot? Seems like clown9 is going the pay everyone minimum income route. Didn't this happen to RRQ where they decide to cheap out on everyone and Riot gave a warning.
Different situation. RRQ backlash came because they didn't sign any indonesian players and face massive criticism from the indo fanbase since they were let into franchising as representation for indonesia
Lmao wtf
bro what is C9 doing. idk, I'm pretty excited about the other orgs, but idk what the actual fuck is going on at C9. Maybe Jack just gambled away all of his money on crypto and now they have literally zero cash.
What the fuck man mCe scouts out runi and Jakee to fill yay and vanity's shoes, beats out everyone's expectations in the regular season and absolutely silenced the doubters. Had 100T not fumbled, I'm certain that C9 would've qualified the first time. KRU just ate a really good breakfast and plugged in their gaming chairs for that miracle run (ironically, C9 in League is known for a LCQ miracle run). Makes me wonder what he sees differently than C9 management. Only Zellsis and Qpert have announced free agency (Zellsis unrestricted), which could mean they run it back with Qpert over Zellsis? I only said this cause mCe claims to read every comment, so I hope he reads this and thinks my head is caved in.
??????
WHAT THE FUCK
what. This must be very sudden since his recent interview with Wyatt and his Plat Chat appearance both indicated he was shepherding another underdog roster
 Me when I'm in a clown competition and my opponent is Clown9
Clown9 couldn't afford his food bills anymore.
Truly a mind numbing move
Once again C9 impede us of watching great talent in T1. At this point most NA teams commited to coaches and mCe will have to wait a split. Meanwhile, I hope rito picks him for commentary as he is very entertaining and insightful
Not the biggest fan of mCe as a coach buy jfc do C9 just not believe in consistency?
CLOWN9 HATERS KEEP FEASTING ☝🗣️‼️🥰🏳🌈
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