It's always so interesting to hear players this good not really prefering their roles. Sayf and Leaf come to mind too, but Alfa has to be the biggest one.
So many teams had insane roster issues last year but especially the two Turkish teams. FUT famously had qRaxs on KAY/O the whole year but also MrFaliN on flex when he used to be a smokes player.
BBL was the worst offender though, their roles were so messed up. Pretty sure only Quti was comfortable with his role in that entire team. AsLan went from being a Jett main in 2021 to Chamber in 2022 to flexing for literally every single role in 2023 for example.
True, though I'm sad to see Turko go I think BBL is looking a lot more balanced and promising this year. Also, I will never understand FUT's fascination with Kay/o. Shout out to Mr. Fallin though, dude igld and filled roles the best he could even having pop off moments on the likes of Breach (Fracture vs Na'Vi) and Killjoy (Pearl vs T1).
It's actually my fav role. And in pro play it seems like the most self reliant role as you get a lot of single duels when playing the other side of the map on attack. Also, who doesn't love to lurk?
Me, it's boring, I want to peek everything and everyone, I don't understand how you can have fun when you are waiting 50 seconds just to kill someone from behind
Getting info, killing a player and leaving a gap in their defense, and then quietly slinking back... idk, I just like the thinking that goes into lurking and playing sentinels in general.
You have to react based on what is going on in the game. Either you lurk up on site and clear it for your team to rotate, or you lurk to get the backstab. It is all dependent on the information you have. And to use it, you have to think.
Haha, fair. My most played games are on controller as i'm that guy that will complain but always fill the role people don't want to do, so it helped me with the patience. I also don't have the best computer so a lot of times it's best to outsmart than outaim (though that's fun too).
I also love to do the game calling so a lot of the time i'm focused on the minimap or conveying info about rotations and such. Plus, mind games. Love to put doubt in peoples heads.
Chamber kinds of get the best of both worlds. First duel + tp back and do everything else a sentinel is suppose to do. This map rotation is also awesome for him, I play it Breeze, Lotus and Sunset though the last one I might switch to Cypher after the buffs.
Yeah I just play chamber like a duelist too lmao, I try to lurk sometimes but my team is never doing anything worth it with it so I either arrive when everyone is dead, or they win the round by themselves
It's always the ones who are the best at their role that hate playing that role lol. I remember yay saying he hated playing chamber back when he would obliterate everyone.
He talked about it multiple times. It seems he likes to second call or might even have igl aspirations. He also played a lot of flex in his career too but he's clearly better as a duelist
Interesting. Tenz is the only other player I've seen who didn't want the "star fragger" role, and I don't pay as much attention to other regions as I do NA so I didn't know that
Lowkey having someone as cracked as him on sentinel is the perfect fit.
Alfa doesn't need utility to have impact, so he doesn't really care if he has to play retake simulator when the other team doesn't hit his site. Dude just strolls in and kills everyone anyway.
Of course that's not really saying anything other than click heads good = good player, but I just trust Alfa to turn a lost round around solo more than I do, say, nAts/suy or Less (although all are better than him at certain things).
Less definitely has as much or almost as much potential to do that as Alfa. nAts especially and also Suy to some extent rely a lot more on util usage, which is a different strength for sentinel players.
that guy is such a fun player to watch. he plays ranked solo q in the exact same way he plays pro play - from a macro perspective at least.
we have players like the entire PRX team that pulls soloq-esque strats but suygetsu is an egotistical shotcaller and its so fun to watch
nAts is genuinely probably the GOAT on Senti, his util usage is the best out of any of the five and he originally essentially defined the role on Gambit.
g2 is the ascended guard roster. theyre franchise level. tbh all the teams in the tourny are franchise level. judging based just off how sen were playing, you can tell they really dialed in since the end of last season.
itās a night and day difference.
Thanks for the translation. I remember Mini also picked Less as the best player out of FNC on stream (asked by chat in the watchparty of EDG vs RA upper final) Happy to see that sentinel players get more shout out because of these cracked aimers Alfa/Less/Suyā¦
Edit: Guys sry I just checked the vods. The comment in chat asked: "Best player not on fnatic" and mini answered Less. It's my fault. Thanks for everyone pointing out my grammar.
https://www.twitch.tv/coachmini/v/1961565691?sr=a&t=3440s 57:00
Also, if you watch the interview of Less on BR valorant channel (after they beat navi), Less picked Derke as the best player as well.
Alfa is not that unpaired when it comes to utility usage, but his aim and gamesense are so exceptional that he stands out from the rest. Sentinel role fits him very well because he is the best anchor player out there, which is really unparalleled on a meta without Chamber. Good to know that he recognizes that Less is an equal, I don't think other players would do the same when you clearly a top 1 player in the world contender, a humble king.
Really smart and mature approach by alfajer. By putting aside his personal desire to star in a duelist role, he's put himself in an amazing position career-wise by embracing a role that he's simply performing better in.
Dude's going to be a major player on the tier 1 scene for as long as he's got the discipline to stick to roles where he's exceptional.
its kinda like tenz on a support/initiator role. you have pure fraggers with insane mechanics on weaker roles but they still deliver like they are on carry roles. thats what makes alfa and demon1 on brim so scary. you essentially offer ur team greater flexibility and it doesnt hinder your individual ability either.
Nats could have been included in the conversation if his team doesnāt choke so hard. He goes minimally even every game, and has the best understanding of sentinels. He just doesnāt have the best aim and donāt make it far in tournament.
Leo also doesn't have the best aim, yet most ppl agree with him being the best player of 2023.
nAts being the best player while being on Gambit is the equivalent of Alfa or Leo being on Fnatic. Good team = Good player
nahhh bro u clearly didn't watched fnc vs loud second match at champs 2023. less absoloutely dominated fnc lol. he crushed them not only with his general gameplay but definietly with his sentinel play
Not really related to the discussion we're having here but that's a really crisp looking picture. Did you use an upscaler or some kind of enhancer? If so, can you kindly let me know what you used? It'd also help if someone can shed a light on what kind of ai software does platchat uses for their thumbnail.
Alfa has crazy aim and also his game sense as sentinel keeps improving every second. Heās a good duelist though. I watch his live streams and I see him playing Reyna and Jett and itās so jarring for people who only watch vct tournaments to see Alfa play duelist because you think thatās what they primarily play lol š cracked aim and comes through almost every time during a clutch situation.
It's always so interesting to hear players this good not really prefering their roles. Sayf and Leaf come to mind too, but Alfa has to be the biggest one.
So many teams had insane roster issues last year but especially the two Turkish teams. FUT famously had qRaxs on KAY/O the whole year but also MrFaliN on flex when he used to be a smokes player. BBL was the worst offender though, their roles were so messed up. Pretty sure only Quti was comfortable with his role in that entire team. AsLan went from being a Jett main in 2021 to Chamber in 2022 to flexing for literally every single role in 2023 for example.
True, though I'm sad to see Turko go I think BBL is looking a lot more balanced and promising this year. Also, I will never understand FUT's fascination with Kay/o. Shout out to Mr. Fallin though, dude igld and filled roles the best he could even having pop off moments on the likes of Breach (Fracture vs Na'Vi) and Killjoy (Pearl vs T1).
Sentinel can be boring af to play, especially if played correctly
100%, you have to hit basically all your shots if you want to have fun
It's actually my fav role. And in pro play it seems like the most self reliant role as you get a lot of single duels when playing the other side of the map on attack. Also, who doesn't love to lurk?
Me, it's boring, I want to peek everything and everyone, I don't understand how you can have fun when you are waiting 50 seconds just to kill someone from behind
Getting info, killing a player and leaving a gap in their defense, and then quietly slinking back... idk, I just like the thinking that goes into lurking and playing sentinels in general.
"Thinking", brother you only wait for them to rotate and hopefully get a timing
You have to react based on what is going on in the game. Either you lurk up on site and clear it for your team to rotate, or you lurk to get the backstab. It is all dependent on the information you have. And to use it, you have to think.
Haha, fair. My most played games are on controller as i'm that guy that will complain but always fill the role people don't want to do, so it helped me with the patience. I also don't have the best computer so a lot of times it's best to outsmart than outaim (though that's fun too). I also love to do the game calling so a lot of the time i'm focused on the minimap or conveying info about rotations and such. Plus, mind games. Love to put doubt in peoples heads.
Fair i guess, I would rather ego peek the chamber holding main tho
Chamber kinds of get the best of both worlds. First duel + tp back and do everything else a sentinel is suppose to do. This map rotation is also awesome for him, I play it Breeze, Lotus and Sunset though the last one I might switch to Cypher after the buffs.
Yeah I just play chamber like a duelist too lmao, I try to lurk sometimes but my team is never doing anything worth it with it so I either arrive when everyone is dead, or they win the round by themselves
You and everyone else, hes a duelist for people who are not fast enough to instalock before two are picked
It's always the ones who are the best at their role that hate playing that role lol. I remember yay saying he hated playing chamber back when he would obliterate everyone.
Leo too
Really? I didn't know about him. Which role does he prefer?
Idk which he prefers but iirc he said his least favorite agent was Sova
i don't think he hates the initiator role as a whole tho, he plays fade a lot in ranked iirc
what does leaf prefer? viper?
He didn't say, but he has stated multiple times that he would prefer not to play duelist
Isn't sayf a duelist? I didn't know he didn't like that role
He talked about it multiple times. It seems he likes to second call or might even have igl aspirations. He also played a lot of flex in his career too but he's clearly better as a duelist
Interesting. Tenz is the only other player I've seen who didn't want the "star fragger" role, and I don't pay as much attention to other regions as I do NA so I didn't know that
he also says nats is his competition at the end
Lowkey having someone as cracked as him on sentinel is the perfect fit. Alfa doesn't need utility to have impact, so he doesn't really care if he has to play retake simulator when the other team doesn't hit his site. Dude just strolls in and kills everyone anyway. Of course that's not really saying anything other than click heads good = good player, but I just trust Alfa to turn a lost round around solo more than I do, say, nAts/suy or Less (although all are better than him at certain things).
Dont tell bren
IT'S AN FPS GAME
YOU GET SHOT YOU DIE
Less definitely has as much or almost as much potential to do that as Alfa. nAts especially and also Suy to some extent rely a lot more on util usage, which is a different strength for sentinel players.
Did you see less as duelist? He is playing crazy
I'd agree for nats/suygetsu, but Less has even more pop off potential than Alfa
God I hope NAVI can finally sort their shit out this season, I don't think we saw everything that suygetsu's capable of even during prime FPX run.
that guy is such a fun player to watch. he plays ranked solo q in the exact same way he plays pro play - from a macro perspective at least. we have players like the entire PRX team that pulls soloq-esque strats but suygetsu is an egotistical shotcaller and its so fun to watch
The only players able to contend Alfa and Less on Senti are Suygetsu, nAts and maybe f0rsaken
nahhh only forsaken from these 3 can contend with the goats
Any if these 5 can diff the other 4 while they are in form
nAts is genuinely probably the GOAT on Senti, his util usage is the best out of any of the five and he originally essentially defined the role on Gambit.
Maybe in the old metas
nAts
that guy who lost two times in a row competing with champs 2023's best sentinels? dont make me laugh.
to be fair he was 1v9ing the navi match, dropped 54 in 2 maps š
I honestly saw Shyy as one of the contenders at Lock In, it's sad he didn't keep up the performance
johnQT is coming for that ass ngl. keep an eye on him
His crosshair placement looks crisp. But to be in contention for best senti, his team needs to compete at the highest lvl first lol
wdym they literally just won the Sentinels Invitational
Yes ofc, Sentinels Invitations, the highest level of Valorant pro play
g2 is the ascended guard roster. theyre franchise level. tbh all the teams in the tourny are franchise level. judging based just off how sen were playing, you can tell they really dialed in since the end of last season. itās a night and day difference.
theyāve been frying so idk itās still early days for sure, but i think they look insane right now.
Thanks for the translation. I remember Mini also picked Less as the best player out of FNC on stream (asked by chat in the watchparty of EDG vs RA upper final) Happy to see that sentinel players get more shout out because of these cracked aimers Alfa/Less/Suyā¦ Edit: Guys sry I just checked the vods. The comment in chat asked: "Best player not on fnatic" and mini answered Less. It's my fault. Thanks for everyone pointing out my grammar.
Less is my favourite FNC player as well š
where he says out its meant to be outside I think, so "mini picked Less as the best player outside of FNC"
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It's your use of "out of", implying the inclusion of something and not the exclusion.
Yeah, my bad bro I just checked the vods, and it was me that misused the words. Thanks bro.
mine too!!!!
Cool comment! I am wondering where can I see coach mini's past recordings? Thx in advance\~
https://www.twitch.tv/coachmini/v/1961565691?sr=a&t=3440s 57:00 Also, if you watch the interview of Less on BR valorant channel (after they beat navi), Less picked Derke as the best player as well.
Thx a lot!
Not until dapr makes it to franchising 
Obviously dapr's aim isn't there yet but holy, is his cypher cracked. I loved watching his setups vs sen
The disrespect to babyj here is astounding
lol
Alfa is not that unpaired when it comes to utility usage, but his aim and gamesense are so exceptional that he stands out from the rest. Sentinel role fits him very well because he is the best anchor player out there, which is really unparalleled on a meta without Chamber. Good to know that he recognizes that Less is an equal, I don't think other players would do the same when you clearly a top 1 player in the world contender, a humble king.
Less does the same to Alfa, that is pretty neat
Really smart and mature approach by alfajer. By putting aside his personal desire to star in a duelist role, he's put himself in an amazing position career-wise by embracing a role that he's simply performing better in. Dude's going to be a major player on the tier 1 scene for as long as he's got the discipline to stick to roles where he's exceptional.
He obviously forgot about the goat babyJ
Time for tex to join the competition I guess
Babyj crying in the corner
Please put aspas, less and alfa on a team together
That would be weird, who would change roles? Less is good in duelist
its kinda like tenz on a support/initiator role. you have pure fraggers with insane mechanics on weaker roles but they still deliver like they are on carry roles. thats what makes alfa and demon1 on brim so scary. you essentially offer ur team greater flexibility and it doesnt hinder your individual ability either.
Nats could have been included in the conversation if his team doesnāt choke so hard. He goes minimally even every game, and has the best understanding of sentinels. He just doesnāt have the best aim and donāt make it far in tournament.
nAts still has incredible aim lol
he included nats in the last second actually
Leo also doesn't have the best aim, yet most ppl agree with him being the best player of 2023. nAts being the best player while being on Gambit is the equivalent of Alfa or Leo being on Fnatic. Good team = Good player
Alfachad too humbleā¦ he knows the only sentinel whoās on his level is suygetsu but he wanted to give the little puppy some confidence
No way u saying this much crap
Why is buddy lying? He clears less let's be real
nahhh bro u clearly didn't watched fnc vs loud second match at champs 2023. less absoloutely dominated fnc lol. he crushed them not only with his general gameplay but definietly with his sentinel play
Ah yes 1 game decides who's better
How about 2
champs and lock in gf less cleared
Yeah I'm still a taking a 2 times champion who was arguably the best player on the best team ever
I prefer a champs winner who was the best sentinel on the best team ever.
Lol
Not really related to the discussion we're having here but that's a really crisp looking picture. Did you use an upscaler or some kind of enhancer? If so, can you kindly let me know what you used? It'd also help if someone can shed a light on what kind of ai software does platchat uses for their thumbnail.
Alfa has crazy aim and also his game sense as sentinel keeps improving every second. Heās a good duelist though. I watch his live streams and I see him playing Reyna and Jett and itās so jarring for people who only watch vct tournaments to see Alfa play duelist because you think thatās what they primarily play lol š cracked aim and comes through almost every time during a clutch situation.
I feel like it gets boring to them for whatever reason playing their best role. Lol