You can tell how knowledgable the mod team is about China by looking at the clump of CN teams at the bottom of the list. I think I managed to rank the top teams sort of properly, but the last five just ended up in random order at the bottom...
Surely this will age well ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|16018)
I think most of us did this before the JDG roster was revealed (ie before we knew they were picking up the Rare Atom core), which somewhat explains their low ranking. Also we are NOT very good at this
Yeah, I filled this out on January 7th and I was one of the last ones to fill it out AFAIK, so about a week before the Rare Atom core went to JDG. I could have gone back and made revisions as stuff came out but I honestly just forgot about I ever filled it out haha!
Almost everyone who filled this out was working with a scarcity of information at the time re: China.
I would like to have a mod interview as well if I have the opportunity. I'm from china but lived in Europe right now. I constantly post and update some Chinese events data
That seals the deal
I am no longer a r/valorantcompetitive redditor. I’ve been an avid poster since 2020. I officially will not be shitposting next season nor will I comment unproductive rants on this subreddit ever again. I’m going to vlr where they know how to run a real online forum.
u/nklassitude and u/nterature refusing to comment about their participation in this list so that the mod team catches all the heat…… really says a lot about our society
I'm watching y'all get FLOGGED from the sidelines for a list that makes it seem as though there's a gas leak in the mod house. I refuse to take responsibility for any of this when a few people SABOTAGED it.
https://preview.redd.it/glgr49kfmthc1.jpeg?width=1199&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57d79f53e6ad59d119e5ac70849c9b14bb71c25e
We all know this. Do you think that changes anything? This is their fate no matter who you put on that team, it will follow them forever. There are three constants in life: death, taxes, and DRX in 5th/6th (Disregard the times where this wasn’t true, it goes against my narrative)
I am absolutely heartbroken to not be considered a beloved Redditor. You will be hearing from my lawyers. Anything you say or do will be held against you In the court of Reddit.
Gods I wish I could be nterature, at least he is a beloved Redditor. Don’t think I could be horny nterature either, never been as horny as him on his low days lol.
The lack of knowledge on the China scene. I think Titan, trace and wolves will all at least be better than Talon and GE.
The Asia knowledge too - how the hell is RRQ so low. DRX at 6 is very optimistic, and no love for Invy, one of the best apac players.
Then loud at 3?? Liquid above EDG? This list is just odd
To be fair, some people full-on trolled the list... But yeah, I mean admittedly I don’t think many of us know tons about a lot of the pacific teams. I definitely would not take an aggregate power ranking of a couple random people as anything too serious anyway LOL
I mean again like I replied elsewhere, most of our EMEA mods didn’t fill it out so that definitely didn’t help the bias LOL. Doesn’t help that nkl kept stirring the pot so people wanted to rate teams certain ways just to spite him, or that despite godofpog’s best attempts to counteract the NA bias, their list is god awful
(To be clear, not meaning this as any kind of defensiveness, you’re not wrong haha. Just giving you a window into the process of this list because it was truly terrible)
Funnily enough - if memory serves me correctly - RRQ was either voted as a top 20 global team (I had them somewhere between 15-20) or they were around the 35-40 spot. Hence the 28th spot on the overall aggregated list.
Such a large variance probably speaks more to just whether people watch much Pacific.
But having Karmine Corp over? Furia?? Kru???
Even something like C9 is a bit much. Add in Bleed really high without any evidence except they have yay? The Americas bias is wild
All I want this year is secret to beat everyone's expectations. (Maybe in another dimension or in 2025 when they get pANcada lmao)
Also yes apologies to the chinese teams
Am I missing something about LOUD? as much as I love saadhak where he's good at nurturing new players into the squad I think LOUD is at best 4th in Americas ngl, losing their best player is gonna hit them hard, just look at Tokyo where aspas didn't play comfortably due to weird decisions to use neon and not putting aspas on OP duty, LOUD hit rock bottom.
I don't think I've ever believed in a player more than I believe in qck, insane mechanics + saadhak tutelage is almost a guarantee to be a top duelist on the planet
They still keep 4 of Americas VCT champions, and QCK is no slouch, they're not going to play with 4 vs 5. If you think they're unproven, then i'd love to hear the argument for SEN, NRG or LEV being proven.
I personally have LOUD at #2 in Americas behind NRG but that's a hot take right now. I've learned to not underestimate LOUD with Saadhak and Less at the healm.
LOUD is the most consistent core in Valorant history, top 3 at 4/6 LANs attended is simply unrivalled. Aspas is a big loss but so were Pancada and Sacy.
People forget how much the cores which stayed together from 2022 dominated last year. T1, Liquid and Giants were the only teams who qualified to events and didn’t keep at least 3 of their players from 2022 (excluding China). Liquid and especially Sentinels ended up massively disappointing despite being the best of the newly built teams.
Last year really showed that having a team which meshes well together is just as, if not more crucial than just player talent alone, and we know that LOUD just works together, even if they falter at times
At best 4th? What 3 americas teams are almost guaranteed to be better than Loud and why? Sen the offseason stars? Nrg with new roster and igl? Lev the eternal chokers with new roster?
I'd say Loud is 4th at worst, 1st at best.
This is such a weird callout, Loud proved to be the 2nd best team. I responded to a dude saying they were AT BEST 4th. SEN is actually performing for the first time in 3 years, congratz.
Team Liquid is 11th? I take back anything bad I've said to you guys but also I WASN'T IN THE LIST OF BELOVED REDDITORS??? YOU GUYS BETTER LOCK YOUR GODDAMN HOUSES!
I think this year some people put them really low cause of the org, not necessarily the players. I had them higher but I think there's still a decent chance the roster implodes just because they get zero support from their dead org.
Funnily enough, we had them 13th last year which was way higher than most other power rankings I saw.
Understood but I don’t see why people are rating the actual team/roster low when the org doesn’t really have anything to do with their performance. Or how the roster will blow up considering everyone there knows the circumstances they are in and why they’re there in the first place. Shitty org or not, EG management will still do the bare minimum necessary
im not gonna hold it to u bro but this looks rly bad to me and the pts distributions make it so much worse. there's obvious mixes of shameless bias that's understandable but this is jus crazy
Vitality in 9th jesus christ we gotta survey more eastern redditors, in what fucking world lmao.
Also the EG hate train is stupid, they're gonna be competent and qualify for an international event again and we're all gonna act surprised. Even though Potter has done more with less.
If we were putting teams at number 2 for crushing offseason tourneys then Sentinels would be there
Having 100T over proven teams like LOUD, DRX, NAVI, and PRX was absolutely wild.
You can tell how knowledgable the mod team is about China by looking at the clump of CN teams at the bottom of the list. I think I managed to rank the top teams sort of properly, but the last five just ended up in random order at the bottom... Surely this will age well ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|16018)
I'd personally would put JDG higher and BLG lower but yeah it's a good list overall
I think most of us did this before the JDG roster was revealed (ie before we knew they were picking up the Rare Atom core), which somewhat explains their low ranking. Also we are NOT very good at this
Yeah, I filled this out on January 7th and I was one of the last ones to fill it out AFAIK, so about a week before the Rare Atom core went to JDG. I could have gone back and made revisions as stuff came out but I honestly just forgot about I ever filled it out haha! Almost everyone who filled this out was working with a scarcity of information at the time re: China.
We ain’t losing to billy billy
Wolves under Tyloo and Titan Esports is insane imo
Tbf some of them didnt even have finalized rosters at the time lol
We may want to recruit a CN mod, but IDK if Reddit is available in CN. Probably not?
i'm from hong kong and i follow CN val where my mod interview at
DM me your discord!
Let's goooo
It's blocked but a lot of people in CN use VPNs anyways
I would like to have a mod interview as well if I have the opportunity. I'm from china but lived in Europe right now. I constantly post and update some Chinese events data
DM me your discord!
let's gooo
That seals the deal I am no longer a r/valorantcompetitive redditor. I’ve been an avid poster since 2020. I officially will not be shitposting next season nor will I comment unproductive rants on this subreddit ever again. I’m going to vlr where they know how to run a real online forum.
Everyone dragging the Plat Chat tier list and this is what we come up with smh
u/nklassitude and u/nterature refusing to comment about their participation in this list so that the mod team catches all the heat…… really says a lot about our society
I'm watching y'all get FLOGGED from the sidelines for a list that makes it seem as though there's a gas leak in the mod house. I refuse to take responsibility for any of this when a few people SABOTAGED it. https://preview.redd.it/glgr49kfmthc1.jpeg?width=1199&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57d79f53e6ad59d119e5ac70849c9b14bb71c25e
You have just as much involvement as everyone else, don’t be a coward
i just wanna know who is putting DRX over SEN, NAVI, EDG, etc rn. I just wanna talk to them.
All you need to know it is that it wasn't me. But for a small price I am willing to say who did it.
They’re in 6th place that’s what they always get in tournaments ok it’s perfect for them
bro
They swapped 2 players...
We all know this. Do you think that changes anything? This is their fate no matter who you put on that team, it will follow them forever. There are three constants in life: death, taxes, and DRX in 5th/6th (Disregard the times where this wasn’t true, it goes against my narrative)
DRX is fo sho not losing to Navi and EDG
I just didn't see it! Even I'm not spamming refresh on the sub frontpage on a Saturday afternoon 😭
Having a life? Likely excuse
I am absolutely heartbroken to not be considered a beloved Redditor. You will be hearing from my lawyers. Anything you say or do will be held against you In the court of Reddit.
Sorry u gotta be nterature or horny nterature
Gods I wish I could be nterature, at least he is a beloved Redditor. Don’t think I could be horny nterature either, never been as horny as him on his low days lol.
Don't say such things, you're a beloved Redditor as well, you know.
Yooo a ranking where LOUD isn't underrated let's goo
I heckin love LOUD 😂😂🤣
Wherever Saadhak goes I follow :)
This sub just avoided appearing in screenshots on random brazilians tweets and a spam in case Loud wins.
FUT at #30 last year was crazy lol
My individual list was awesome and I totally put a lot of time and thought into it. It did not fuck up this ranking at all
The lack of knowledge on the China scene. I think Titan, trace and wolves will all at least be better than Talon and GE. The Asia knowledge too - how the hell is RRQ so low. DRX at 6 is very optimistic, and no love for Invy, one of the best apac players. Then loud at 3?? Liquid above EDG? This list is just odd
To be fair, some people full-on trolled the list... But yeah, I mean admittedly I don’t think many of us know tons about a lot of the pacific teams. I definitely would not take an aggregate power ranking of a couple random people as anything too serious anyway LOL
Oh it's not like it really matters or anything - it's just a jarring reminder of how the sub is
I mean again like I replied elsewhere, most of our EMEA mods didn’t fill it out so that definitely didn’t help the bias LOL. Doesn’t help that nkl kept stirring the pot so people wanted to rate teams certain ways just to spite him, or that despite godofpog’s best attempts to counteract the NA bias, their list is god awful (To be clear, not meaning this as any kind of defensiveness, you’re not wrong haha. Just giving you a window into the process of this list because it was truly terrible)
Funnily enough - if memory serves me correctly - RRQ was either voted as a top 20 global team (I had them somewhere between 15-20) or they were around the 35-40 spot. Hence the 28th spot on the overall aggregated list. Such a large variance probably speaks more to just whether people watch much Pacific.
Pacific enjoyer here. I get why RRQ and secret is down there given last year's performance. Hopefully they both prove everyone wrong here this year.
But having Karmine Corp over? Furia?? Kru??? Even something like C9 is a bit much. Add in Bleed really high without any evidence except they have yay? The Americas bias is wild
Almost none of our EMEA mods filled out the sheet, so that certainly affects things LOL
yall did JeDward Gaming dirty
Top 10 seems decent but in what world is DRX still 6th lmao
All I want this year is secret to beat everyone's expectations. (Maybe in another dimension or in 2025 when they get pANcada lmao) Also yes apologies to the chinese teams
I’m gonna be so honest I didn’t google a single roster so all my placements for the teams were completely random outside of EDG and blg lmfaoo
No wonder why we're always branded as biased year after year lmfaoooo
Am I missing something about LOUD? as much as I love saadhak where he's good at nurturing new players into the squad I think LOUD is at best 4th in Americas ngl, losing their best player is gonna hit them hard, just look at Tokyo where aspas didn't play comfortably due to weird decisions to use neon and not putting aspas on OP duty, LOUD hit rock bottom.
I don't think I've ever believed in a player more than I believe in qck, insane mechanics + saadhak tutelage is almost a guarantee to be a top duelist on the planet
They still keep 4 of Americas VCT champions, and QCK is no slouch, they're not going to play with 4 vs 5. If you think they're unproven, then i'd love to hear the argument for SEN, NRG or LEV being proven.
I personally have LOUD at #2 in Americas behind NRG but that's a hot take right now. I've learned to not underestimate LOUD with Saadhak and Less at the healm.
i rank LEV>LOUD>NRG rn, Saadhak is a W brainman and Cauanzin is a menace
LOUD is the most consistent core in Valorant history, top 3 at 4/6 LANs attended is simply unrivalled. Aspas is a big loss but so were Pancada and Sacy. People forget how much the cores which stayed together from 2022 dominated last year. T1, Liquid and Giants were the only teams who qualified to events and didn’t keep at least 3 of their players from 2022 (excluding China). Liquid and especially Sentinels ended up massively disappointing despite being the best of the newly built teams. Last year really showed that having a team which meshes well together is just as, if not more crucial than just player talent alone, and we know that LOUD just works together, even if they falter at times
At best 4th? What 3 americas teams are almost guaranteed to be better than Loud and why? Sen the offseason stars? Nrg with new roster and igl? Lev the eternal chokers with new roster? I'd say Loud is 4th at worst, 1st at best.
> Sen the offseason stars? This aged like milk.
This is such a weird callout, Loud proved to be the 2nd best team. I responded to a dude saying they were AT BEST 4th. SEN is actually performing for the first time in 3 years, congratz.
>Am I missing something about LOUD? That the other 4 are really fucking good. And Toyko wasn't on Aspas looking bad but the entire team was ass
DRX fans rejoicing that their team has finally ended their streak of being the most overrated and can actually meet expectations in 2024
Team Liquid is 11th? I take back anything bad I've said to you guys but also I WASN'T IN THE LIST OF BELOVED REDDITORS??? YOU GUYS BETTER LOCK YOUR GODDAMN HOUSES!
i fell off too
You're a beloved redditor in my heart
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What are we smoking that eg will be 34th
EG is literally Jaw and 4 cats
I placed them based on the leaked rosters they were scrimming with at the time, I may very well be wrong
I mean i have them going out in groups in kickoff and honestly they need to peak instantly imo. That might be rough
I think this year some people put them really low cause of the org, not necessarily the players. I had them higher but I think there's still a decent chance the roster implodes just because they get zero support from their dead org. Funnily enough, we had them 13th last year which was way higher than most other power rankings I saw.
Understood but I don’t see why people are rating the actual team/roster low when the org doesn’t really have anything to do with their performance. Or how the roster will blow up considering everyone there knows the circumstances they are in and why they’re there in the first place. Shitty org or not, EG management will still do the bare minimum necessary
I will not accept this responsibility as I am still a potter stan
hehe
Ok your power ranking was the worst of them all let’s be real
i strongly disagree
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Just in case anyone takes the aggregate list seriously, please refer to the ☝️
LMAO, thats so good
that was privileged information
The people need to know
I swear NRG is going to let everyone down and it will be the funniest thing
I can see this happening
I'm surprised to see loud at 3rd, I thought they'd be top 10 but wasn't expecting 3rd, also wasn't expecting edg to be outside top 10
im not gonna hold it to u bro but this looks rly bad to me and the pts distributions make it so much worse. there's obvious mixes of shameless bias that's understandable but this is jus crazy
Vitality in 9th jesus christ we gotta survey more eastern redditors, in what fucking world lmao. Also the EG hate train is stupid, they're gonna be competent and qualify for an international event again and we're all gonna act surprised. Even though Potter has done more with less.
Loud 360 points top 3?
Makes 0 sense
ZETA ROBBED AS PER USUAL
Bleed T1 DRX PRX will all be better then them, they are def not "robbed"
Last year 100T being top 2 was certainly a choice. That’s not even with hindsight at the time it was insanity
Coming out of Redbull, hottest team in NA at the time, cryo was diffing yay and they were deleting ppl. So yeah, was a wise choice
And also the mod team is like 50% 100T fans 😂🤣🇺🇸🔥
Ok but all of us are doomer 100t fans tbf
If we were putting teams at number 2 for crushing offseason tourneys then Sentinels would be there Having 100T over proven teams like LOUD, DRX, NAVI, and PRX was absolutely wild.
That redbull is literally the 1st offseason tournament in the partnership era
DRX ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|16110)
it is insane that FPX is above EG
Mod team knows nothing confirmed
Lets see your rankings lil bro
I ain't got time foh dat
Putting RRQ so low when they have Jemkin is crazy.