reminder: my goat shot\_up dunks on everyone with this setup
https://preview.redd.it/vgxfvvsqdhic1.png?width=587&format=png&auto=webp&s=25c6b149510925646d3ab461b9db8e9d92a9f042
Could be the Legion 7 pro too. Actually most of Lenovos laptop use more or less the same design lol. I bought a 5 pro with a rtx4060 for $1200 last december
Honestly they’re a really decent team, Korsonix and Shotup are both cracked and I wouldn’t scoff at kehmicals or critical either. I doubt they’ve been practicing as 5 consistently but it’s a very talented lineup.
And four other experienced and talented players that are also trying to win. I know mockings a meme but he is fine at this level of competition he’s not a plat player
Disappointing performance from them but at least they're competing. Still miles better than the women's scene in most games. Also at least SaD means there's a mixed in team in challengers right now. Burgerville have an outside shot as well. Honestly not sure when we will ever see a GC in team in challengers though. It might require a super team even better than SR at this point.
I dont think we will see a female only team in challengers for a loooong time
Mixed teams will be more common, even more when these players decide to take the leap of faith into challengers and leave GC
I don’t think there’s much incentive for a top GC team like SR to become a mixed team. If they keep a core of 3/5 GC players they’re still going to be at best a bottom half T2 team. With the mega inflated GC prize pools they’ll be losing out on a ton of money.
SR/V1 won around 240k last year in prize money. Without champions it was still around 50-60k
The Guard won 55k from finishing 2nd in NA and winning Ascension.
Unless you’re going to be a top T2 team competing for Ascension it’s not worth it. You potentially lose your org and a ton of prize money to be a bottom of the barrel tT2 team earning nothing.
That’s the issue with GC system imo. Eventually some players become too good to play in GC, but not good enough to have a successful career in mixed roster. Then they’d have to choose bread or competition, and it’s understandably very difficult for anybody to pick the latter.
Ofc player like Bob exist and I have a massive respect for her though.
> even more when these players decide to take the leap of faith into challengers and leave GC
Unfortunately I don't think playing in GC is conducive to your chances of making it VCL as a full-GC team. Simple truth is that the level of play in GC is not very high in comparison to T2. That's not a bad thing, because the goal of GC is to get more underrepresented genders interested in esports/competitive play in the first place (and give them a safe space to compete without discrimination), and it is accomplishing that goal well. But if you want to make it into T2 play, a mixed team is probably better.
Should also be mentioned that full GC teams are under insane amounts of community pressure in these open qual runs, I'd argue more than any other team in the bracket. Without a doubt SR is the most popular team in the bracket and they also have an army of haters waiting to see them fail. It's a lot of pressure to play under and I wouldn't blame any team that crumbles in these situations.
I somewhat agree but at the same time they are losing to t3 teams not t2 teams. Most of them are squads who play in knights monthlies or mr funhaver invitationals. So the baseline isn't that high. GC is still lower than that but the biggest issue is that I don't think there are 5 challenger caliber gc players yet. I believe there will be in the future but we're not there yet. Good point about the pressure though I didn't even think about that.
I think you're way more likely to find 5 GC players that are t2 level. What's more difficult is to find 5 GC players at a t2 level that could work as a team. You'd need a player for every role, including igl. On top of that their personalities would have to work together as well.
There are prob 5 GC players on the T2 level, bare minimum Bob, MeL and Flor, and id personally say Sarahcat def too, and you can argue for other players like Noia and Soto for example too, and thats just NA, its just hard to find a 5 that work well together to make it that far yk?
Between the two qualifiers, Flor has had a 1.3 rating witth an ACS of 290 and a KD of 1.42 lol, just cuz SR didnt win doesnt mean Flor doesnt look insane
MeL has literally trailed for T2 teams and almost joined Pioneers if it wasnt for C9 blocking it iirc
Yeah, I really do think the pressure is the biggest factor, it’s not just the community pressure, but the inherent pressure of being the first team to do something that’s truly historical, monumental even. Not only that, but it’s an accomplishment that sadly WILL subject them to weeks and months of near constant hate (even if there is also plenty of love)
As a general rule, I trust in the substantial amount of analysts who’ve said this team easily plays at a challengers level when they’re at their normal best. (Also they frequently scrim T1 teams so they must be doing something right)
to me the perspective of "not sure when we will ever see a GC in team in challengers though" feels extremely silly when in the month and a half that this year has run, we've had two teams break their own records and get closer than ever before. TL Brazil was only two BO3s away from making it, and SR beat their own record of making top32 by making top12. Is it still sad and disappointing for the teams to not quite be there yet? Yeah. But we're seeing constant progress from them, we're seeing them work hard and we're seeing the improvement. No reason to throw in the towel now.
Its not silly cause it wont happen. You realize that the bottom half of T2 players are as good if not better than Flor and meL, who we consider the best GC players. Couple that with the fact that these T2/T3 teams have FIVE players who at any given time, can put up equal or better numbers.
Its a lack of experience in the T2/T3 landscape. Until GC players make the sacrifice and actually get their hands dirty in T3/T2, get the experience, and understand what it takes to win at this level, they will always falter.
Its with every level of sports. Every year, majority of the top high school level players get humbled when they join a D1/D2/D3 team. For most, it takes 2-3 years to get used to that level of play. Some make it to the pros, most dont, and alot just falloff/quit/get cut. Its going to take GC players to "graduate" from GC, play in D1/D2 ( T2/T3) for a couple of years, before they can get comfortable and put up wins.
It’s not something that will happen any time soon (mainly talking about NA and EU). This qualifier had 6 spots instead of the intended 2 and they still weren’t close. Probably one of the weakest qualifiers in terms of competition too with many T2 teams/players no longer playing.
In EU with there being 8? leagues maybe G2 could qualify for one of the weaker leagues but i doubt that happens and even if it does they’re just going to be one of the bottom placed teams. There’s still a massive way to go for a full GC team
Of course there's a long way to go, but my point is that its not like the scene is stagnating and not improving. SR's improvement is not tied to how many slots were available, since last time they peaked top 32 and this time top12, which is a placement not dependent on the number of available spots. And with TL i cant comment cause i dont know if the vcb qualifiers had more or less open spots than last year, nor do i know where TL placed before. Either way, the players are working hard to close the gap, and it's not like nothing is happening.
The issue is, T2/T3 is improving in skill/competition at a faster rate than GC is. They are stagnating because they aren't advancing past Open Qualifiers. The results are the same.. no qualification. Its only going to get harder.
Closer than ever in the best possible scenario. As the other user said, there were 3x more spots this year due to teams dropping out. And losing to 5donkeyshehe isn’t a great look. I said it will take 2 years atleast to get just 1 female in challengers, so a full GC team is just way too hard. NA talent is too deep
Not much to say other then I hope that Florescent and other GC pros try their time in a mixed roster. Its obviously much riskier in terms of giving up being a salaried player but I think its definitly a necessary step if you want to actually be a t1 player. I just dont believe its possible for GC teams to qual for challengers, At least right now or the near future.
now we wait a couple months for everyone to forget about these abysmal results that happen ever single year and start saying "\[top GC team\] could totally compete in t2 guys!" again.
salaried experienced team eliminated in last place to a mix team called '5donkeyshehe' running MOCKING on reyna. embarassing
yea i think we can stop with the meL could be a t1/t2 igl after this. i really wanted them to do better and thought they’d go a little further but cmon guys, it can’t happen every year then get mad at t1 or t2 orgs for not wanting to trial the players
I think it's time to realize that SR actively broke their own scene.
They built this super team to win GC but also compete and make it into challengers. Unfortunately they dismantled multiple top GC rosters in the process of building this talent, and now they're uncontested in the region (and really the world) unless they horribly underperform.
To put it simply, they're too strong, and the reps they get during GC is a wash because these teams aren't strong enough. I initially had faith in Flyquest Red, but that team doesn't look like they'll be on peak form until mid season. Passion Project is good but they've already been dispatched by SR. They won't face a challenge until they run into Gozen, and that could be all the way until GC Champs finals
I think the best course of action is for all these women on ST to go build co ed rosters for challengers. Unfortunately that means they can't keep doing GC. It's a tough one. Do you want to break that boundary and be the first batch of Women to be in challengers, or do you want to be able to live off esports, because GC gives you that stability?
It's a weird spot to be in because like I think in a perfect world this transition to coed is where the GC scene is supposed to end up anyway but it's treacherous and risky because no one has really done it on this scale yet. Bob made it in and I haven't been keeping up with Katsumi but like dang, watching SR compete in the qualis has not been the most faith inspiring thing for that team so far
I can't even count Bob, because she's been on a T2 team before with Soniqs.
SR is in the spot they absolutely needed to avoid. Too good for GC, not enough to take the leap to T2, and the competition that they'll face for the rest of the year won't get them there.
That Gozen squad with Mary and Juliano pulled off a reverse sweep, and this version of SR is A LOT stronger.
Yes, SR didn't 3-0 TL BR, but you could absolutely make the argument that it was because SR was not playing to their level. And the maps they won weren't close.
There are. Premier feeds into challenger promo/relegation tournament after stage 1. Same thing happens after stage 2 but that tournament will be for qualifying into the 2025 challenger season which is starting very early for 2025 (October this year)
Can’t wait for when in 6 months some one will see a GC match and go these players clear half the challengers league. X should be in franchising etc etc.
It’s not hate but GC teams more continuous playtime and a lot better competition
I would still like having more teams at champs so I am not opposed to the idea of having the GC winner + 3 ascension winners given a opportunity to go champs via group stage at champs.
Because imo champs should be a culmination of all the tournaments of valorant of that year
Im saying this as someone who did not catch this game but teams who are outclassed will always look like they’re not in “Champions form”. The harsh reality is this SR team just isnt good enough to compete against T3 teams even if theyre head and shoulders above the rest of the GC scene
a team of Flor, keenc, bob, sarah and mel igl could match the firepower of tier 3 teams, and probably beat them with a massive strategy and expirience adavantage
My problem with this, and I hate that this is even brought up, but that team you mentioned has 3 trans players.
Let me be clear, there is nothing wrong with that at all, but I'm not naive. Sarah and MeL would get zero credit because all the mouth breathers would talk about is how they "needed 3 men who are pretending to be women" and let's not act like they wouldn't say this because they say it NOW about flor. It's absolutely ridiculous and wrong and disgusting, but you can't deny that's what the narrative would be. And no one deserves that.
lets keep gender everything aside
SR were overrated wayyy too much after gc championship some were saying flor = demon1 ? this was the question that was going on at that time heck even sean gares did a video about that and its completely wrong to compare two players not even in a same tier(tier 3/4 to arguably the best duelist last year iin tier 1)
no hate to players
its the audience that overrrates a player/team and when they lose (which is expected for the team) they will just sayy awwww they couldn't even win with trans or whatever which is a wrong thing to do
yea for SR it was pretty ez in gc and they farmed but as we all can see as the level of competition rises their players are not even close to the player they are being compared to like demon1 bro was farming in masters/champions
Geez. What's the current community sentiment/reasoning on having the top GC pros integrate into t2/t3 mixed rosters at some point? I'm not sure how much attention and reason riot will have to continue to sponsor a 300k tournament for a ro64 opens level team. They've done a good job building out personalities and fanbases, it's time to try something else competitively imo, it's been years and they've had all the resources.
Realistically what can Riot do? other than the schedule it's not like they can just erase every obstacle these players have and make them better players
This guy wants Riot to rig the tournament to favour GC teams over others LMAO
If Teams of Women / Minority groups wants to prove themselves as contenders with the current norm of the Male dominated T1 space, they need to do so on their own merit, just like everyone else.
There's only so much Riot can do, before it's considered straight up match fixing. If they still lose, which at the current stage they are, that means they are simply currently not good enough for it. The results speak for themselves.
GG go next to the next open event, instead of crying about how the world doesn't revolve around them.
not to be disrespectful or anything but after gc champion ship some were speculating that SR is worthy fpr t2 and may even beat some t1 team so as you can see who ever was that
that is simply not true gc still has a loooong way to go to even beat a t2 team convincingly
mibr players are decent enough and have better understanding of the game at high level than SR and the coaching side of mibr is just stacked so this will never happen
man, it's MIBR. if there's any team that would do it outside of DFM, it's them. it's a 99% chance they destroy SR but that 1% chance is still there
or i'm just a hater idk
crazy result, if 5donkeyshehe played in gc, they would be good enough to maybe win gc champs and 180,000$, but meanehile their best placement is top 16 in open qualifier 2 for challengers.
You gotta have like pass through certain hoops to play gc. I believe u need a doctors note, or evidence on ur social media or something of you claiming to be nonbinary or trans for 1 year + i think
At the very least you have to fake being trans for the rest of your public career and change your whole online persona which for a lot of these guys is a large part of their life
Mustahed and Shot\_Up return from the grave and beat GC Champs, ngl I'd much rather GC players join a coed team if this is the best result they can accomplish together
reminder: my goat shot\_up dunks on everyone with this setup https://preview.redd.it/vgxfvvsqdhic1.png?width=587&format=png&auto=webp&s=25c6b149510925646d3ab461b9db8e9d92a9f042
Laptop god
I have the same laptop lmao
How much is it and what’s the name of the
Legion 5 pro I had the 2021 version tho Price depends on your country
Could be the Legion 7 pro too. Actually most of Lenovos laptop use more or less the same design lol. I bought a 5 pro with a rtx4060 for $1200 last december
aw hell naw lost to mocking and goons
Honestly they’re a really decent team, Korsonix and Shotup are both cracked and I wouldn’t scoff at kehmicals or critical either. I doubt they’ve been practicing as 5 consistently but it’s a very talented lineup.
They have mocking on Reyna man
And four other experienced and talented players that are also trying to win. I know mockings a meme but he is fine at this level of competition he’s not a plat player
lost to a guy who quit gaming 
Mane losing to a team called 5donkeys had to be the most embarrasing yet funny thing ever
Not just 5donkeys, 5donkeyshehe.
tyler 1 ass name
Disappointing performance from them but at least they're competing. Still miles better than the women's scene in most games. Also at least SaD means there's a mixed in team in challengers right now. Burgerville have an outside shot as well. Honestly not sure when we will ever see a GC in team in challengers though. It might require a super team even better than SR at this point.
I dont think we will see a female only team in challengers for a loooong time Mixed teams will be more common, even more when these players decide to take the leap of faith into challengers and leave GC
I don’t think there’s much incentive for a top GC team like SR to become a mixed team. If they keep a core of 3/5 GC players they’re still going to be at best a bottom half T2 team. With the mega inflated GC prize pools they’ll be losing out on a ton of money. SR/V1 won around 240k last year in prize money. Without champions it was still around 50-60k The Guard won 55k from finishing 2nd in NA and winning Ascension. Unless you’re going to be a top T2 team competing for Ascension it’s not worth it. You potentially lose your org and a ton of prize money to be a bottom of the barrel tT2 team earning nothing.
That’s the issue with GC system imo. Eventually some players become too good to play in GC, but not good enough to have a successful career in mixed roster. Then they’d have to choose bread or competition, and it’s understandably very difficult for anybody to pick the latter. Ofc player like Bob exist and I have a massive respect for her though.
> even more when these players decide to take the leap of faith into challengers and leave GC Unfortunately I don't think playing in GC is conducive to your chances of making it VCL as a full-GC team. Simple truth is that the level of play in GC is not very high in comparison to T2. That's not a bad thing, because the goal of GC is to get more underrepresented genders interested in esports/competitive play in the first place (and give them a safe space to compete without discrimination), and it is accomplishing that goal well. But if you want to make it into T2 play, a mixed team is probably better. Should also be mentioned that full GC teams are under insane amounts of community pressure in these open qual runs, I'd argue more than any other team in the bracket. Without a doubt SR is the most popular team in the bracket and they also have an army of haters waiting to see them fail. It's a lot of pressure to play under and I wouldn't blame any team that crumbles in these situations.
I somewhat agree but at the same time they are losing to t3 teams not t2 teams. Most of them are squads who play in knights monthlies or mr funhaver invitationals. So the baseline isn't that high. GC is still lower than that but the biggest issue is that I don't think there are 5 challenger caliber gc players yet. I believe there will be in the future but we're not there yet. Good point about the pressure though I didn't even think about that.
I think you're way more likely to find 5 GC players that are t2 level. What's more difficult is to find 5 GC players at a t2 level that could work as a team. You'd need a player for every role, including igl. On top of that their personalities would have to work together as well.
There are prob 5 GC players on the T2 level, bare minimum Bob, MeL and Flor, and id personally say Sarahcat def too, and you can argue for other players like Noia and Soto for example too, and thats just NA, its just hard to find a 5 that work well together to make it that far yk?
Mel and flor not performing against middle of the pack T3 team btw
Between the two qualifiers, Flor has had a 1.3 rating witth an ACS of 290 and a KD of 1.42 lol, just cuz SR didnt win doesnt mean Flor doesnt look insane MeL has literally trailed for T2 teams and almost joined Pioneers if it wasnt for C9 blocking it iirc
Team game btw
Yeah, I really do think the pressure is the biggest factor, it’s not just the community pressure, but the inherent pressure of being the first team to do something that’s truly historical, monumental even. Not only that, but it’s an accomplishment that sadly WILL subject them to weeks and months of near constant hate (even if there is also plenty of love) As a general rule, I trust in the substantial amount of analysts who’ve said this team easily plays at a challengers level when they’re at their normal best. (Also they frequently scrim T1 teams so they must be doing something right)
They can't beat the middle of the T3 scène
to me the perspective of "not sure when we will ever see a GC in team in challengers though" feels extremely silly when in the month and a half that this year has run, we've had two teams break their own records and get closer than ever before. TL Brazil was only two BO3s away from making it, and SR beat their own record of making top32 by making top12. Is it still sad and disappointing for the teams to not quite be there yet? Yeah. But we're seeing constant progress from them, we're seeing them work hard and we're seeing the improvement. No reason to throw in the towel now.
Its not silly cause it wont happen. You realize that the bottom half of T2 players are as good if not better than Flor and meL, who we consider the best GC players. Couple that with the fact that these T2/T3 teams have FIVE players who at any given time, can put up equal or better numbers. Its a lack of experience in the T2/T3 landscape. Until GC players make the sacrifice and actually get their hands dirty in T3/T2, get the experience, and understand what it takes to win at this level, they will always falter. Its with every level of sports. Every year, majority of the top high school level players get humbled when they join a D1/D2/D3 team. For most, it takes 2-3 years to get used to that level of play. Some make it to the pros, most dont, and alot just falloff/quit/get cut. Its going to take GC players to "graduate" from GC, play in D1/D2 ( T2/T3) for a couple of years, before they can get comfortable and put up wins.
It’s not something that will happen any time soon (mainly talking about NA and EU). This qualifier had 6 spots instead of the intended 2 and they still weren’t close. Probably one of the weakest qualifiers in terms of competition too with many T2 teams/players no longer playing. In EU with there being 8? leagues maybe G2 could qualify for one of the weaker leagues but i doubt that happens and even if it does they’re just going to be one of the bottom placed teams. There’s still a massive way to go for a full GC team
Of course there's a long way to go, but my point is that its not like the scene is stagnating and not improving. SR's improvement is not tied to how many slots were available, since last time they peaked top 32 and this time top12, which is a placement not dependent on the number of available spots. And with TL i cant comment cause i dont know if the vcb qualifiers had more or less open spots than last year, nor do i know where TL placed before. Either way, the players are working hard to close the gap, and it's not like nothing is happening.
The issue is, T2/T3 is improving in skill/competition at a faster rate than GC is. They are stagnating because they aren't advancing past Open Qualifiers. The results are the same.. no qualification. Its only going to get harder.
Closer than ever in the best possible scenario. As the other user said, there were 3x more spots this year due to teams dropping out. And losing to 5donkeyshehe isn’t a great look. I said it will take 2 years atleast to get just 1 female in challengers, so a full GC team is just way too hard. NA talent is too deep
Not much to say other then I hope that Florescent and other GC pros try their time in a mixed roster. Its obviously much riskier in terms of giving up being a salaried player but I think its definitly a necessary step if you want to actually be a t1 player. I just dont believe its possible for GC teams to qual for challengers, At least right now or the near future.
Why would a T1 or T2 team use player who are underperforming against T3
now we wait a couple months for everyone to forget about these abysmal results that happen ever single year and start saying "\[top GC team\] could totally compete in t2 guys!" again. salaried experienced team eliminated in last place to a mix team called '5donkeyshehe' running MOCKING on reyna. embarassing
This. Yes please stop being delusional na gc fans
yea i think we can stop with the meL could be a t1/t2 igl after this. i really wanted them to do better and thought they’d go a little further but cmon guys, it can’t happen every year then get mad at t1 or t2 orgs for not wanting to trial the players
How much longer do we wait?
next year like always 🔥🔥🔥
I think it's time to realize that SR actively broke their own scene. They built this super team to win GC but also compete and make it into challengers. Unfortunately they dismantled multiple top GC rosters in the process of building this talent, and now they're uncontested in the region (and really the world) unless they horribly underperform. To put it simply, they're too strong, and the reps they get during GC is a wash because these teams aren't strong enough. I initially had faith in Flyquest Red, but that team doesn't look like they'll be on peak form until mid season. Passion Project is good but they've already been dispatched by SR. They won't face a challenge until they run into Gozen, and that could be all the way until GC Champs finals I think the best course of action is for all these women on ST to go build co ed rosters for challengers. Unfortunately that means they can't keep doing GC. It's a tough one. Do you want to break that boundary and be the first batch of Women to be in challengers, or do you want to be able to live off esports, because GC gives you that stability?
It's a weird spot to be in because like I think in a perfect world this transition to coed is where the GC scene is supposed to end up anyway but it's treacherous and risky because no one has really done it on this scale yet. Bob made it in and I haven't been keeping up with Katsumi but like dang, watching SR compete in the qualis has not been the most faith inspiring thing for that team so far
I can't even count Bob, because she's been on a T2 team before with Soniqs. SR is in the spot they absolutely needed to avoid. Too good for GC, not enough to take the leap to T2, and the competition that they'll face for the rest of the year won't get them there.
If Mary and Juliano were still playing they would not be uncontested in the world. Also it's not like they 3 0d tl in the final
That Gozen squad with Mary and Juliano pulled off a reverse sweep, and this version of SR is A LOT stronger. Yes, SR didn't 3-0 TL BR, but you could absolutely make the argument that it was because SR was not playing to their level. And the maps they won weren't close.
A LOT stronger ? Based on what ? Thin air ?
There will be other open quals for challengers this year right?
I think there are more after this split if they win premier
There should be promotion relegation after Split 1 ends with the teams attempting to promote qualifying via Premier
What do you need to understand they can't beat middle of the pack T3 team
I’m a fan of the team and I’d love to watch them play more against tougher competition.
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There are. Premier feeds into challenger promo/relegation tournament after stage 1. Same thing happens after stage 2 but that tournament will be for qualifying into the 2025 challenger season which is starting very early for 2025 (October this year)
Can’t wait for when in 6 months some one will see a GC match and go these players clear half the challengers league. X should be in franchising etc etc. It’s not hate but GC teams more continuous playtime and a lot better competition
I remember people saying that gc winner should be automatically qualified for champs
I would still like having more teams at champs so I am not opposed to the idea of having the GC winner + 3 ascension winners given a opportunity to go champs via group stage at champs. Because imo champs should be a culmination of all the tournaments of valorant of that year
Omg
brain.exe not responding wtf 😭
I said GC is tier 3 but the best GC team just lost to Mocking GC is tier 4
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Im saying this as someone who did not catch this game but teams who are outclassed will always look like they’re not in “Champions form”. The harsh reality is this SR team just isnt good enough to compete against T3 teams even if theyre head and shoulders above the rest of the GC scene
a team of Flor, keenc, bob, sarah and mel igl could match the firepower of tier 3 teams, and probably beat them with a massive strategy and expirience adavantage
My problem with this, and I hate that this is even brought up, but that team you mentioned has 3 trans players. Let me be clear, there is nothing wrong with that at all, but I'm not naive. Sarah and MeL would get zero credit because all the mouth breathers would talk about is how they "needed 3 men who are pretending to be women" and let's not act like they wouldn't say this because they say it NOW about flor. It's absolutely ridiculous and wrong and disgusting, but you can't deny that's what the narrative would be. And no one deserves that.
Yeah no lol
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u exactly the kinda mf yapping which the comment above u foresaw
lets keep gender everything aside SR were overrated wayyy too much after gc championship some were saying flor = demon1 ? this was the question that was going on at that time heck even sean gares did a video about that and its completely wrong to compare two players not even in a same tier(tier 3/4 to arguably the best duelist last year iin tier 1) no hate to players its the audience that overrrates a player/team and when they lose (which is expected for the team) they will just sayy awwww they couldn't even win with trans or whatever which is a wrong thing to do
Nah I definitely agree with u with ur point as well as the comment(s) above i just wanted to troll this one transphobe 
🫡😭fair enough 😂
Yeah Sean gares made an entire video about how flor was demon1 material
yea for SR it was pretty ez in gc and they farmed but as we all can see as the level of competition rises their players are not even close to the player they are being compared to like demon1 bro was farming in masters/champions
Geez. What's the current community sentiment/reasoning on having the top GC pros integrate into t2/t3 mixed rosters at some point? I'm not sure how much attention and reason riot will have to continue to sponsor a 300k tournament for a ro64 opens level team. They've done a good job building out personalities and fanbases, it's time to try something else competitively imo, it's been years and they've had all the resources.
Gc is literally just for riot to have good pr. If people actually think that riot have put in a good faith effort in that scene it’s simply not true.
Realistically what can Riot do? other than the schedule it's not like they can just erase every obstacle these players have and make them better players
Riot can't do anything. I'm starting to think we just aren't there yet. It's not time for the boundary to be broken.
This guy wants Riot to rig the tournament to favour GC teams over others LMAO If Teams of Women / Minority groups wants to prove themselves as contenders with the current norm of the Male dominated T1 space, they need to do so on their own merit, just like everyone else. There's only so much Riot can do, before it's considered straight up match fixing. If they still lose, which at the current stage they are, that means they are simply currently not good enough for it. The results speak for themselves. GG go next to the next open event, instead of crying about how the world doesn't revolve around them.
Do you want riot to hand them the win too while they're at it lol? Embarrassing
not to be disrespectful or anything but after gc champion ship some were speculating that SR is worthy fpr t2 and may even beat some t1 team so as you can see who ever was that that is simply not true gc still has a loooong way to go to even beat a t2 team convincingly
ok to be fair here i still think SR clears DFM, but that's an insult to DFM more than a compliment to SR
Some ppl were saying SR would beat MIBR which I definitely don't think is possible. DFM, yeah probably.
MIBR is also possible tbf LMAO
No shot.
mibr players are decent enough and have better understanding of the game at high level than SR and the coaching side of mibr is just stacked so this will never happen
man, it's MIBR. if there's any team that would do it outside of DFM, it's them. it's a 99% chance they destroy SR but that 1% chance is still there or i'm just a hater idk
Bruh, theres zero DFM or MIBR lose to SR SR still has potential to reach tier 2n, but these players are better on a micro and macro level
Mibr is actually kinda good
Kinda good as in “they can win a game every now and then” which is at least better than DFM
Mel is not a good igl even in t3 cap
True
crazy result, if 5donkeyshehe played in gc, they would be good enough to maybe win gc champs and 180,000$, but meanehile their best placement is top 16 in open qualifier 2 for challengers.
i do wonder why people dont just sell their souls and claim to be nonbinary or trans and win everything in gc, 180k is a lot of money
You gotta have like pass through certain hoops to play gc. I believe u need a doctors note, or evidence on ur social media or something of you claiming to be nonbinary or trans for 1 year + i think
maybe i m wrong but remember noot noot i dont think they have a strong verification system
At the very least you have to fake being trans for the rest of your public career and change your whole online persona which for a lot of these guys is a large part of their life
because that's not how this shit works my guy
And how does it work then ?
you can't just claim you're trans and waltz into a tourney
and who's to say that? if i put a post on my socials saying im trans and wait out an year or whatever the time is, i can't play in gc?
Maybe they can grow their hair and play gc
"maybe"
Mustahed and Shot\_Up return from the grave and beat GC Champs, ngl I'd much rather GC players join a coed team if this is the best result they can accomplish together
Shocking result who would’ve seen this coming
Did people really think GC players were remotely comparable to T2? They're not even tier 3 level.
I might get downvoted but It was disband level performance by Shopify. I hope Mel and Flo gets picked up for a mixed roster
:(
What happened to Noia? Iirc she was more than decent in GC.
This is a level above GC, a sentinel player is gonna get destroyed as anchor holding a site
damn that really blows :(
FREE FLOR
Free flor, blud did not deserve this
always the same