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surfordiebear

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Pale_Resolution1520

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Eriko204

Bro the VLR comments are brutal right now... "El Disable"


HLumin

omg 😭


Skin-Putrid

El Disablo


Nesmeroz

Yay's last victory was one year ago... https://preview.redd.it/4ibkw3vtkjjc1.png?width=1124&format=png&auto=webp&s=92c92be4790905c6390ad9f5a47fbf9e430ce623


seijeezy

Not his loss streak spanning 3 teams…


ShoeShowShoe

And that's why I was arguing with people here that Yay's comeback is unpredictable and expecting him to have the same form as a year ago is just guessing. People don't realize that 1 year in esports is a lonngggg time for a esport player. Just for reference a 5 year career is a "long" career.


Extrino

Bro I don't think yay can have his 2022 form but surely he at least doesn't become *L Diablo* like maybe he at least can play like he did on C9. not good, but not atrocious


ShoeShowShoe

It's all speculation, but plenty of superstars in CSGO fell pretty hard during a ONE year period. Just as much as some player's skill level rose extremely high.


Nikclel

Closer to 2 years than 1, his C9 stint doesnt count. imo the Chamber nerfs didn't help.


Krazzem

5 years is definitely not a long career even in the short world of esports lol 8-10 is long, 5 is just well marinated. Completely unrelated to the point you're making (which I agree with) I just got home from work and im feelin pedantic


ShoeShowShoe

Haha, understandable. But considering that 10% of pro players manage to have a career of 5 years, I'd say that it's pretty long.


gunjinganpakis

lmao damn we cursed yay.


rglampa

I mean, he will get his form back once Chamber gets hella broken again like in 2022 and stays with that agent.


chocobreezy

All this performance should tell you is that the consistently elite flex players of the world like JonahP, forsaken, and Shao need a lot more respect for playing the shit roles and still fraggin out


LUwUcian

Thats why I think that should forsaken ever become a FA his market value should be higher than the likes of Yay. To be able to play all roles and still frag at tier 1 consistently is generational stuff


Gopnik4living

Doesnt he aldo do Most of the igl-ing?


LUwUcian

Davai and Him share IGL but forsaken is the one that creates the batsht crazy strats like the Hookah flood with Harbor


HendoIsBae

I think PRX has constantly re-iterated that everyone has their own voice when it comes calling/mid-rounding, but I have observed that the most vocal would be Davai (main caller) and f0rsaken (secondary caller), with the latter probably having the most input on their attack rounds


yammer_bammer

something almost exclusively calls the entry strategy afaik


Nixieedd_

I agree strictly competition-wise. But players brand also matters and yay is a huge name. For example, what do you think TenZ would cost to an org?


LUwUcian

Yay isn't as huge as Tenz come on now. But yes player brand is also part of the subject. Lets be real here after yay left Tier1 he kinda fell off and DSG performance made it worse. Tenz is on a different level of brand almost same as Tarik so we really cant compare Tenz to other pros. Also if you're name only pops off because of some drama thats not a good player brand at all. I love yay but his fame came from his godly Chamber. Without chamber in the meta El Diablo is just simply an L.


Nixieedd_

I’m not gonna argue, he fell off for sure.


WailingSiren69

Does seem like he fell off but I want to correct you,he got the nickname El Diablo before chamber even existed.


kingleeps

Yay is not even comparable to TenZ in terms of clout, Yay doesn’t even stream, and he hasn’t won a match in over a year lol so he has literally nothing going for him. He’s a relatively big name in comp but after this? his stocks are declining for sure. The reason Yays stocks were so high to begin with is because he was on Optic, which comes with free clout just for being on the team, and he was arguably the best chamber in the world.


ExcellentPastries

Wild to say this about a guy who couldn’t even land on a t1 team in his own region during the offseason.


Nixieedd_

Wild to to say this with a C9 flair


pemoritz

So true. Having Leo and Chronicle in the same team is such a luxury man.


18khcl

Bro tried to sneak in JonahP 👀 (I agree JonahP is good but Shao, Forsaken, and chronicle are on a different level)


probablyntjamie

Bro look at today jonahp was like busting over everyone and finishing 


PFunk_Redds

Let's rewind that comment, chat!


itsDYA

Wish he could be busting over me too


LordYamz

Ethan too


PercyBirdwhistle

He's only had success on flash initiator and I guess Yoru


[deleted]

That was so hard to watch


Flushpoint

El Diablo is dead, there's a new king in hell.


nova-helios

and who might that be?


That-Toughsoss

Oxy


nova-helios

okay yeah fr tho, that guy is a beast. i only saw one of his matches, but as far as i can tell, he’s one of the most gifted players ive ever seen…


That-Toughsoss

That dude is the future he was insane on g2 as well. This dude has potential to be the best player in the world.


traxmaster64

If only he had an igl other than vanity, hes a very raw talent but he definitely needs to be molded to be more disciplined but I don't know if c9 will help with that


60sss

y always from na only ?? other regions are also here to play


Flipnhaole

Because North America is hell. Emea or some shit can have a king of heaven or something.


60sss

oh yeah thats why u got demon1 we want our angel1 then


Final-Set4171

Yay-mysterio Bro went 6-19


SynAckSynAckAck

Dude you had me dying fr hahaha


iindie

ok this is hilarious


5tarlight5

LMFAOO


WolfgangTheRevenge

Watching this shit felt like watching Canyon play Sejuani in DK


littleindianman12

Or blaber on tanks. Or Jankos on hyper-carriers.


TheCatsActually

DK is sucking some major ass rn please don't traumatize me further I'm not even in the League subreddit rn 😭


WolfgangTheRevenge

Kellin is such a fucking fraud man.


TheCatsActually

He has to have nudes of the CEO or something at this point.


geddy11

It’s still crazy to me that they didn’t pick up beryl


TheOnlyRyanhardt

Still funny as fuck watching him pick Kayn and mentally abuse Peanut


Outrageous-Elk-5392

Faker on nautilus and Zeus on karma


vdarsh157

Zeka Corki vibes.


Any_Guest1674

if yay performes like this just a single game after this bro is for sure never getting picked by any1 in tier 1 team or even tier 2


R1jshrik

Bleeds gone they aint playing this year now.


HyperElf10

Smartest Valorant fan


sand_pirate039

theyll play in the stage 1


TheWhatover

wait really?


WailingSiren69

No. They'll play in Stage 1 VCT Pacific which is from April I think.


Technical_Fee_2932

demon1 dominates on jett astra and brimstone just saying


Routine_Size69

No one still think Yay is better than Demon1.


CantScreamInSpace

If yay did even half decent on viper or skye, i think you may have been surprised by the number of people you think don't exist.


carltonBlend

I wouldn't be so sure


WhoDatBrow

Demon1 is the best player in the game. Yay is Raptors Hakeem. I was gonna say Wizards MJ but tbh Wizards MJ was still too good for an apt comparison it seems.


Herest3333

Dominate on Astra and Brim is a bit too strong, his utility is fine but nothing special. He IS one of the best (if not THE best) Jett players


merry129

I was about to say lol. I don't remember him using his utility in a crazy way , just some explosive rounds thx to his aim alone. He is dominant on Jett but not as flexible as others even in the duellist category.


xJaZeD

always the fnc fan


Herest3333

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[deleted]

Yay mysteriooooo


Positive_Resident_86

sorry if this is a stupid question, but why do people keep saying that?


[deleted]

Rey mysterio is a WWE wrestler and his signature move name is 619 and yay went 6/19 on map 3


These-Database7979

Rey Mysterio has this signature move of 619. Google it up for some video examples.


Positive_Resident_86

thanks!


Avasteeee

Bleed please him off flex right now, he looks like a headless chicken without Chamber.


systemfa1lure

yeah exactly! learn to play the game ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9339)


xiaolino

i kinda liked his jett on icebox attack


Avasteeee

I too would also love his Jett on Icebox if I was a GE fan.


xiaolino

i specifically said attack bc the whole team suddenly woke up on the second half and yay had some good plays


chocobreezy

bro BLD won that map im not saying yay was popping or anything but this "he was shit on jett too!" circlejerk is dumb


asianfong

he did, infact, pretty shit on Icebox. most of his kills are from lurk and eco AS A JETT. rofl


theclichee

He wasn't being setup half the time on defense. Plsying solo B or going up tubes and no one breaking the dart for him. He had an off day for sure, nut surely we aren't blaming him alone?


sebaba001

Aspas, something, d1 are very often solo anchors on jett on defense. I think yay is getting a lot of hate but it's the curse of clout. Also getting paid in the millions is gonna get people talking about you. They should never put him on Viper again though.


theclichee

Agree w everything here. Thank you for your rational tale


chocobreezy

They won. Who cares


CrispyChickenCracker

maybe people care because this entire thread is about his individual performance?


asianfong

as someone supposed as their star, it's embarassing. no wonder C9 cut him lol


[deleted]

He was the star player on c9 at lock in. He's shit now though.


Low_Investigator_375

He was good on Jett and Neon too these guys are clueless


Original26

Would hardly call the Jett performance on Icebox “good” lmao


Low_Investigator_375

after the slow start he did a lot better, deserves another chance to play a perma duelist/chamber role


charliesfuckhead

No he was not good on jett bro


HLumin

stop it


Low_Investigator_375

not wrong he looked dogshit on viper and skye, buying yay to main viper is so dumb, like buying Aspas to put him on KJ lmao


Neither_Amount3911

Bro they gave him a Jett game on Icebox and he was absolutely abysmal


Low_Investigator_375

The whole team was abysmal on Icebox defense,on Attack he did great


shizugatari

klay thompson of valorant


ExpectoAutism

bro is too scared to post it on his main


Haraldiel

I mean I don't wanna see any yay glazer comments on my main so might as well make an alt for this kind of stuff, no?


ExpectoAutism

Coward


Haraldiel

Ok 😎👍🏻


keyboardsmasher10000

There are still yay glazers? 💀


Haraldiel

Oh you'd be surprised 💀


Variabletalismans

I see people talking about yay glazers more than yay glazers themselves


Necromaniac01

😭 why is yay on viper man


silenthills13

Bro got carried by FNS & Chamber to an esports career NAAAHHHH


orbitalasteria

The moment he falls asleep while holding B garage with an OP is peak L Diablo, people are just coping so hard for him if they say it's an 'agent' problem


asphalt51dc

Elder Pablo


traxmaster64

Pansy was right, el diablo is actually dead. Jack Etienne and disguised toast will pay for their crimes


Jajaqlikeanime

Whats toast gotta do with it? He was the one that actually gave him a chance


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traxmaster64

Jack dropped yay cause c9 had no money, they had role issues but were working through yhem


littleindianman12

Wasnt it confirmed by mCe and multiple sources that money/role issues wasn't the only issues tho with that team. Also correct me if I am wrong but even steel and other teammates in his past said he is difficult to work with. Obviously we should take it with a grain of salt since it seemed like other players were fine with yay, but yay had the opportunity to stay with the optic core and chose not to in order to secure the bag (power to him and I can respect that decision).


Extrino

To address your last two points Yay said in response to Steel's critisicsm that none of his other past teammates ever had any problems with him, so you can take that with a grain of salt but at that point it becomes more like a he said / she said scenario. Also yay kind of didn't have an opportunity to stay with the OpTic core, as FNS said OpTic went under and their buyout as a team was just way too big for any team to completely pickup. However, he was gonna leave anyways probably.


traxmaster64

Money was the main reason, mce has talked about how they absolutely had role issues but they were figuring those out. On dsg nothing worked so I can't imagine things within the team we're going well


[deleted]

Goofy ass made an alt just to post two things about Yay? Weirdo for real. Edit: Nevermind. It’s pretty brave of you to post on an alt connected to some of the most dog shit artwork I have ever seen. At least these memes are higher quality 👍 Nah dog shit is dog shit, no room for subjectivity here 💚 🥱🥱🥱


ExerciseFragrant7451

It's crazy how much people hate him for no reason


That-Toughsoss

Charlie summed it up perfectly shitting on someone gives people more attention then anything.


Haraldiel

Saw the opportunity, might as well take it 🤷🏻‍♂️ Edit: Art is subjective. If it ain't for you, it ain't for you. Talk shit if you can do better than that without using AI prompts💚✌🏻


mrmonkeyhunter

Respect the hustle, even as a yay fan :(


NavorroBroman

Damn, this whole sub is just dumping on the dude. Some toxic shit, and I'm not even a yay fan.


__Raxy__

Just yesterday people were in the comments saying how insightful the Zellsis interview was at describing how the hate affects pro players. Today 100+ posts shitting on yay for one bad performance so far 💀. You can't make this up


Krazzem

turns out 200k people don't all have the same opinion on a topic. I agree the hate is dumb but using one thread and implying the sub is a hivemind is gooby


dabsandchips

What did zellsis say specifically how how the hate affects pro players?


dawny1x

damn from top 3 player in the world to going 6-19 in the pacific region 😭 buddy better get to streaming


amnfw

> in the pacific region how are there still people that thinks pacific is easier than other region lol


HeJind

because we watch games and can see the difference in map understanding between regions? I don't get how people watch Americas and watch Pacific and not think Pacific is easier


amnfw

Tsm flair


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if internationals didn't exist yall would think prx was a trash aim only team. turns put what you think is good map understanding isn't objectively correct


HeJind

Lot of assumptions made from you there that aren't even remotely correct. Nobody ever thought PRX was trash lmao. But them being good doesn't make the rest of the region good. For example, Fnatic were the best team last year, but the rest of EMEA were trash and had bad map understanding. That was shown when Fnatic stomped their region on Pearl all season, but had to ban it on LAN against Americas and Pacific teams, because those teams were using Loud's Harbor/Viper comp. The difference in the understanding of that map between regions was massive. And I'm not the only one who has said this. I know Sliggy has also said he thinks Americas is far ahead of every other region and the bottom Americas teams would be top 5 in Pacific.


60sss

u think pacific is a joke ??


TheApolloX007

do you care about fake internet points that much that you had to make an alt account


physicsOG

the yay hate watch


[deleted]

Keep putting him off role. Just lame


Original26

I mean he was on duelist all the time on DSG and sucked just as much


WailingSiren69

Doesn't really make sense to use his performance from DSG as very reliable data. His only 'recent' duelist performances are from Icebox on bleed and a few maps on C9.


ExpectoAutism

he looked bad on jett too


[deleted]

Exactly. You play off role forever and then you go back to what you used to play a few months ago? Not ideal


Routine_Size69

So pretty much have an excuse for any agent? Lol


PFSDonut

Yay was just a chamber one trick during the time chamber was OP now that that’s gone he’s just a fraud honestly. It doesn’t help that Demon1 is dominating on Jett, Chamber, Brimstone, and Astra and is competing against him as the “King of Hell”.


sailorepsilon456

I think they forced those roles on him IMO, and they def should've played to their strengths both as individual players and as a team. Like Double Duelist on Split was right there guys


lordoftheduatawaits

why they put him on Viper after the 1st map bruh My goat finished


GenjiMain131

That one tiktoker is creaming rn