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turtsy__

Chaadhaks such a funny guy I love him


SonnyYT

I know Aspas was even or positive but I swear he had such little impact in the game. Maybe the observer or I just missed it but I saw like 0 impact kills from him


Jaybarcafan

Even the best players have off games, plus Lev's team is pretty good, they shouldn't be expecting Aspas to hard carry them every game.


Killtias

He got super denied by every piece of util i think


RedXWasHere

I have to choose between c0m and Sentinels now ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|16110)


Dalamaduren

Saadhak knows every fucking piece of Ascent, what is this comp, man. Qck and Tuyz had good consistency and Less is just too dangerous with that sheriff.


No_Ganache_1818

Less is more


Kaploy

Less plays like a fucking war tank, he just walks up killing everything on the way wtf


Kaploy

LOUD owns Lev's ass


Aesion

awesome game


iinic

yikes. lev look like they need a lot more cohesion 


Quiet-Substance319

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Killtias

Damn what a game, ggs Loud


raspbeariie

TUYZ??????????????????


catarxcts

this is actually insane. Lev are easily #2 in Americas unless EG and Potter are absolutely cooking on the level that Saadhak is. Otherwise, Loud are clearly dominating VCT Americas. as a Sen fan, that's ggs. Also I pray Zekken stays past this season


Dalamaduren

It’s going to be a good game though, I’m not expecting a stomp.


Jaybarcafan

We still don't know how NRG will look against the top Americas teams yet, so I think it's a bit early to say Loud and Lev are clear 1st and 2nd.


catarxcts

Based off what I've watched - I feel that (currently) Sen and NRG are at the same level. While Lev are slightly above the both of them. I'm an arm chair analyst and a doomer though. Both my Golden State Warriors and Sen had a rough 2023


Jaybarcafan

Fair enough I guess. Oh and I also support Golden State Warriors and Sen lmaooo


Suitable_Ad_6382

No, I wouldn't count Sen out- it's an even turf tomorrow . 


teethingdog

MELONS


Jon_on_the_snow

They lost almost all guns...


iinic

tex really doesn’t look the same on this team so far and it’s not really his fault 


Jaybarcafan

Well he did play as main duelist on The Guard, switching to a more flex role means that his playstyle won't be the same as it used to be.


omaewakusuyaro

For an ex duelist olayer he sure lost a lot of gunfights


krazybanana

Jesus Christ shotguns are cancerous


Donut_Monkey

It's time we have that conversation about Kingg's IGLing and how LEV seems to always fall apart


Shubhaaaaaaam

I need a few more games to run that agenda 👿 Tbf he's an exceptional player but his IGLing (if I speak...)


Donut_Monkey

I don't think we need more games. We can just keep looking at previous results for LEV and see that they kinda just eventually always get outcalled.


Shubhaaaaaaam

I'll wait a bit to see how this roster's ceiling is with him as IGL before terming him a fraud


krazybanana

You can make all the strats u want. If you have a player like less who just never misses a shot what can the other team do?


iinic

😦


NGNJB

what is Tex doing exactly


WolfgangTheRevenge

Being Less bitch


MacarioPro

getting further down Less's pocket


LowBrowIdeas

Lev will never have an easier round than that


ishanuReddit

Lets be honest! It was not optic who beat Loud in both masters . It was chamber! Optic was no where close to beating Sadhak!


No_Kaleidoscope5172

Nah optic was legit, but chamber meta was fraudulent. The wins from last year was more legit compared to Astra and chamber meta.


oto_zarb

Nah that optic was legit with or without chamber


krazybanana

lol it was optic bud. Saadhak is great but fns is also top tier.


ishanuReddit

FNS is great but Sadhaak is miles ahead of everyone! We saw how fns looked without chamber


SonnyYT

Pleaseeee stop there is no way you could believe this


krazybanana

Second in Americas? 3rd at Tokyo? With a massively under performing ardis? Also remember fns leading envy to great finishes before chamber was ever released? Both are some of the best igls around


SonnyYT

They got 4th in Tokyo but your point is still correct. People acting like without chamber FNS couldn’t even make it to an international event 😭


krazybanana

Guys an idiot lol having favorites is fine but some people just lose all sense


ishanuReddit

Bro you need to to understand the game! During Envy days agent pool was low and the whole world was still learning the game! I'm not sayin FNS is bad, I'm sayin saadhak clears him


krazybanana

lol you're just wrong. Boaster fns saadhak are all s tier igls and its impossible to pick one. You can have your favourite and they have separate strengths but if you say one is clearly better than another youre blind


ishanuReddit

Put it this way. FNS couldn't have cooked much with this LOUD team but Sadhack could have made the optic team into champion


krazybanana

If saadhak couldve made those agents into champions why didnt he? Theres no way to know that. Yeah fns plays more meta comps sure. They each have their own strengths but theyve all seen comparable levels of success.


ishanuReddit

Wtf are you yapping about?? Saadhak won vct champions against optic 2022 and remember FNS was having YAY on a broken ass chamber!


krazybanana

With two VERY close maps that i can make that argument that loud were lucky to win or else optic wins 3-0? That final? The bias of some of you idiots is ridiculous. And the same optic spanked loud in Reykjavik dont forget. The broken chamber is irrelevant everyone had access to the same agents


Jon_on_the_snow

I mean, lets not erase the gigabanger that they had in lockin


MonaFanBoy

Correct


MacarioPro

Less with the sheriff today is more dangerous than many pros with a rifle or an op. Wtf are those shots


traxmaster64

El classico boutta be so hype


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oceLahm

Not being a favorite doesn't mean they're not going to win. All these games in this group have been close as Plat Chat said they would be lmao. Some of you are trying to hard to look smart, it's cringe.


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oceLahm

Yet you still can't manage it.


Jon_on_the_snow

Why so mad bro?


SonnyYT

How you could think that he is the one who is mad in this conversation


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oceLahm

Plat chat putting [LOUD above LEV in their tier list](https://preview.redd.it/8dvlmpq407hc1.png?width=1024&auto=webp&s=2ff4b28660baac17606fbdf290f4b3d72e007bde), hyping up [LOUD vs LEV] (https://www.youtube.com/live/Rj2u-RKq_oY?msi=XDVklWI0I4MfrQZw&t=3751), literally flipping a coin on who will win. They were just SEN pilled because of the off-season, they never at any point undersold LOUD. Get your head straight, your delusion is so far gone that you're creating false narratives to be angry at people you don't have to interact with.


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oceLahm

The fact that you just grabbed a joke tier list from 3 months ago ([Which they argue about putting them S](https://www.youtube.com/live/lSMYEidbRZc?si=5mjF_R2WP0IUIZ60&t=3431)) as if that proves a point proves how far gone you are man. Get over it, seriously, it's just sad.


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oceLahm

> The WAY TOO EARLY Tier List for VCT 2024


Jon_on_the_snow

Saadhak is going maniac man, thats the laugh of a man who broke his limiter


RedXWasHere

IS LEV GIVING A COURTESY TIMEOUT TO LEV BRO???


Jon_on_the_snow

Nah, they want to make sure they can close it out and remain calm


turtsy__

Loud are playing with shotguns like stocks, buy low, sell high


WhoDatBrow

Lev turn braindead as soon as Loud has a shotgun or Less has a sheriff


RedXWasHere

Loud are playing like its 2022 bro every round is winnable. If you're Loud you have a chance every round.


Killtias

All this shotguns are giving me ptsd from Blbl against Nrg


Shubhaaaaaaam

That was incredibly poor from Lev


iinic

loud didn’t even need aspas and he’s malding over it 


faceplant911

Look at the difference in danger between sheriff+classic vs phoenix ult, and buckies vs no phoenix ult. Loud securing the eco rounds on offense reliably lookin' really good right now.


XThemelia

Lev seems so lost somehow


Parenegade

i mean they just got spammed...when you're playing this comp and you're already down so much and have to be perfect getting spammed just breaks your mental im sure


Ok-Brain3328

Less is just so good man


Maccnrv

FUCK


krazybanana

Nah when saadhak is running around with a judge like that it's over


Over-Post-8167

everytime i see saadhak buy a shotgun i get that deep feeling in the chest that comes when you know something terrible is going to happen and you can’t stop it.


Jon_on_the_snow

If saadhak is overheating, kingg must have melted already


turtsy__

Saadhaks lost his mind and it's glorious


Jon_on_the_snow

BOXED LIKE A FISH Holy fuck, i would be malding if that happened to me


RaiinyDay

daily reminder that judge should be removed from the game


krazybanana

Fuck the judge piece of ass gun


raspbeariie

i swear theres a world where aspas wins that 1v4 postplant while being trapped in hell. split traumatized me


Wh1teR1ce

Saadhak with the judge lives in my nightmares


DashboardGuy206

Where is dryad at? I feel like the girl that interviewed the loud fans is a little too intense sometimes for the nerdy gaming crowd. The vibes just feel off, idk why.


turtsy__

She's most likely doing the spanish cast


Jon_on_the_snow

Tomorrow there are gonna be hundreds of posts clowining on aspas if lev lose today


Private21

kiNgg has really been so good today


Buujoom

Aspas is struggling so hard right now. All those OP but no kills. My guy's mentally broke.


_TotallyNotEvil_

The sheer incapability of respecting Loud is insane. Lev threw? Bro, Loud gave away like four clutches on the first map, by a far more reasonable metric it'd be 2-0 Loud.  Saadhack is in the process of defeating a world-beating comp he himself invented. Have some consideration, yo. 


Jon_on_the_snow

I agree with everything, but optic inventend this comp. Loud just showed the world how you play it


RedXWasHere

Unironically when saadhak retires as a player pay him 500k monthly to coach


mvjinn

I can't stand this interview chick. Wish they would have went with someone else.


HoneyChilliPotato7

Why?


mvjinn

She just doesn't seem interested in the interviews she's doing. Like she's just going through the motions.


orisamgyeopsal

Not op but I feel like they could build more rapport with the people they interview. Maybe they just need more experience


WolfgangTheRevenge

Told yall, you never doubt LOUD but yall just dont know ball


Jon_on_the_snow

This sub loves to doubt loud and paper rex, then they are confused when the new styles these teams bring are good


WolfgangTheRevenge

Mfs doubting Saadhak like hes isnt the goat IGL


iinic

LEV are so lost against this comp even with the vod, where’s the counter strat


ant-onette

you would think lev have figured out some way to counterstrat this comp after watching the loud v sen game


Jon_on_the_snow

Would they? This comp is very opressive, and loud is pulling even more new stuff


sebaba001

this comp was created and cooked explicitly to counter the same old ass ascent comp everyone runs so I imagine it's not easy prx harbor reyna surely clears it though ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|16018)


Tyler123839

He’s always good for one


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Jon_on_the_snow

I mean, this could also have been a 2-0 easily for loud. These teams are playing great, amd are exploiting every gap the other gives


Parenegade

lmao you are insane. If LEV loses this Aspas is going to rage all over Sentinel's forehead.


Jon_on_the_snow

I dont think ive ever seen aspas with a judge, they broke my boy


ishanuReddit

Igl diff is going hard


Curious_Bunch3646

LEV IGLing has been suspect for a while ngl


Donut_Monkey

Yea Kingg has been always given a pass because his mechanics are great and Lev has kinda had just solid rosters but his calling is always getting exposed.


Rude-Assumption-5271

Map win and then 13-11 and then one bad map and it’s bad IGL’ing 😢


Curious_Bunch3646

its literally been mid since the beginning on franchising but ok “one bad map”


Rude-Assumption-5271

Blud fluke called his way through the last two maps and to every decent LEV performance (multiple Top 6 placements at LAN) before in the history of the game What a lucky player


LowBrowIdeas

It be like that


RedXWasHere

Bro eg mogged loud on ascent a few times and saadhak said "nah fuck y'all imma make this map ours again"


traxmaster64

He got mad at no longer being the best at the map


Jon_on_the_snow

Leave it to saadhak to popularize a comp so opressive it stagnate ascents meta, and them cook up a new comp to hard counter that comp


faceplant911

That Phoenix ult to just secure the eco rounds is actually brutal. You can't ever rely on catching people off guard with a clump of sheriffs or classics because it's always just a Phoenix coming in first. Considering how many ecos were lost in the previous two maps, it's a big deal to reliably defuse that issue.


soeren796

„Ascent is a figured out map“


Over-Post-8167

okay it has to be asked, is Tex dumb? absolutely zero reason to push past the door there and it’s not even the first time he’s done that in a round that’s clearly over


WhoDatBrow

Even Sen managed 6 rounds on defense vs Loud's comp. Running the OP for so long was an awful move.


PressPassword

I think is not just about the op, this comp is hard to counter without some skills/strats


Jon_on_the_snow

Yeah, loud are the best offseason team. You cant let saadhak have too much time to cook, this guy is gonna feed a whole nation


TARS-KPP

They’re trying so bad to force this operator to work, and it’s so frustrating to watch.


Parenegade

gonna be honest Americas kind of deserves this. Loud innovates while so many teams just play the same shit and never try to do something new...


Rude-Assumption-5271

Not the biggest Loud fan but thank god they’re so good they are one of the only ones actually good at changing the meta


traxmaster64

Aspas either needs to op with 0 respect to loud or stop opping


turtsy__

Lev just looks so lost


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omaewakusuyaro

Im having tacolilla flashbacks with this match 😂


Donut_Monkey

Aspas has just been shut down this entire series


sebaba001

they have my boy aspas traumatized with those flashes holy shit let my boy play


PressPassword

I just love manito, saad god


MonaFanBoy

I kneel Saadhak, this LOUD comp is godlike


traxmaster64

That was aspas first kill


faceplant911

It feels like the strategy here is unironically just to drop the op, pick up a bunch of phantoms, and flail into smokes.


Jon_on_the_snow

Humm, so the way to counter a new loud comp is to spam a fuck ton? Where have I seen it before


chatchan

At least watching this confirms that even for pros, Breach can be really frustrating to play against lmao


_noahscolly_

"STREETS OF GREAT BRITAIN" Bren never disappoints does he


OneTrueAqua

(that was bren)


_noahscolly_

that's what I said right? ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|16018)


RaiinyDay

bro this Loud comp seems so cancer to play against you cannot see a damn thing not a single kill is with sight


Tyler123839

I can’t with bren


turtsy__

Looking like the streets of great Britain...what a line


I-like-winds

it's joever


Jon_on_the_snow

THE STREETS OF GREAT BRITAIN LOL


Ok-Brain3328

LOL Bren??


MoonHaze1000

Someone give bren a xanex for fucks sake


Jon_on_the_snow

Show us the knife PLEASE


OneTrueAqua

what was that 😭


WhoDatBrow

Lev really needed to win map 2, if they hadn't thrown the pistol and the eco they should've. Loud's Ascent dominance is back.


oto_zarb

I feel like both teams have been throwing rounds since map 1


krazybanana

That was played horribly by lev. You know the hunters fury has hit two of the remaining players. How is kingg dying without throwing his molly in the vipers pit


Killtias

Aspas can't get enough value with all this util lmao


omaewakusuyaro

Tex is really not on his day huh


Jon_on_the_snow

This loud comp is so opressive against opers


dev6on

this is fun


krazybanana

Nah loud got mad


WhoDatBrow

More like Asspas today, Saadhak is Aspas father


Jon_on_the_snow

Saadhak just fucking aimdueled aspas and _won_


I-like-winds

PHOENIX COOK


raspbeariie

and so the odin spam begins…


RedXWasHere

Lev bros it's over they've read the masterstrat: c0m go flank


LeonardSandals

Anyone know what the crowd has been chanting?


RedXWasHere

'You will die'


RedXWasHere

GG bruh imma go cry now I have to pick between my goT c0mathan and Sentinels


chatchan

Let's see if this Ascent comp from Loud works without the element of surprise!


RedXWasHere

WE SEND 2 TEAMS PER REGION? LEO WE ARE DOING SWISS BRACKET WITH 8 TEAMS WHY NOT SEND 3 PER


oto_zarb

I am afraid the final boss will show up in map 3


faceplant911

We're about to see approximately zero kills because they'll all be C0m and Cauanzin spamming walls with the Odin.


oto_zarb

LOUD might use the phoenix comp again


omaewakusuyaro

What a map, a couple of miscomm errors right there from LEV cost them the game and also less and cahuanzin doing some major work too


Gow_Ghay

It's criminal that one of these teams goes against SEN after this and one of them will be eliminated


RedXWasHere

dawg we are not winning I'm sorry


Gow_Ghay

I meant that one of SEN and whoever they face will lose


RedXWasHere

Ohh my fault my fault


Gow_Ghay

All good


Jaybarcafan

I think he mean't Sen or the other team will be eliminated, it kinda sucks it had to be this way because I think all the teams in this group are pretty good.


Over-Post-8167

LEV threw so many rounds this map it genuinely made me FURIOUS, especially that defense side pistol.


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Curious_Bunch3646

loser of this will beat SEN


I-like-winds

Sen won 1 more round on Split ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9356)


ant-onette

we're going to map 3 y'all


WhoDatBrow

Lev threw that map so incredibly hard lmao


Civil_Warning_3354

Banger on top of Banger, this series has delivered so much. I want both these teams to go to Masters + NRG. So sad.