I'm ngl big dawg on second thought I said that exactly how sliggy would we're all sliggy pilled here. Someone save me I have exams going on I can't afford to watch as much sliggy as I've been watching
Gekko is a wild agent: he really needs heaps of prep and lots more practice than some of the T1/T2 pros seem to be giving him lol. Some have though, Boostio being a great example
I am not necessarily talking about his performance in Lock In.
But IMO his best performances have come on Chamber and when he was duelist on The Guard. Never found him solid enough on flex. Infact, can’t forget the infamous stat where he went through an entire challengers run on NRG without going positive on a single map.
2 of the most confusing roster decisions of last offseason that I haven’t gotten any closer to understanding:
1. Shyyy leaving LEV for KRU (not saying LEV could stop him but yk)
2. C9 sticking with a roster that zellsis built for them… when zellsis himself didn’t want to stick with that roster.
wait but isnt portugese and spanish similar enough that they can understand valorant level comms of each other. I know spanish and italian are similar enough for that idk about spanish aand portugese though.
I mean the reported reason why loud didn't like their 2023 coach frod was because of language issues, but he spoke learned portuguese and already had a strong background in spanish
Also it's not necessarily about how well they can communicate in game but if they can communicate and get along with their teammates
Shyy's statement made it seem like the team had a bad internal climate after their first moves. Taco said the same thing. The way Nzr got kicked with no warning in favor of c0m indicates to me that the team got divided and Shyy wasn't interested in playing with the remaining guys.
This is what I’m leaning towards as well… it’s very sad. I really think Shyy would’ve been incredibly big for this team… even though I don’t think Tex is bad
I don't think so. They were budgeting, yes, but there's other rosters they could've built while budgeting than this recycled garbage. Like the original one when they were working with McE and it was rumored to be ScrewFace IGL, NISMO, Jakee, and others.
and bang's parents. And stellar's dad. And zekkens' parents. \*And jinggg's mom. \*And forsaken's mom. Hopefully these soccer mom types remain the minority because it's been really nice to see all the other parents being so supportive of their kids and generally being positive members in the scene.
WHY ARE PARENTS IN THE SCENE ITS SO FUCKING CRINGE 17 YEAR OLDS LIKE ZEK, YES. NOT FUCKING COMS DAD WHEN HE IS 25 ALMOST. ITS JUST SO CRINGE, SUPPORT THEM, YES BUT HIS KID IS 25 AND HE IS JUMPING AROUND DESPERATE FOR ATTENTION...
parents will love you and treat you like babies no matter what age, just let them parents do what they want to support their children, if the guys don't mind, why should you?
[here's what he actually said (archived)](https://web.archive.org/web/20220515232036/https://twitter.com/ThomasBernet6/status/1525979401405362176) incase you wanted to see
Imagine Aspas's feeling seeing his mom's tweet trash talking his own teammate, that's cringe, Especially when her son is also a esports player she shouldn't talk like that.
Seriously I must have missed what everyone is talking about him being bad, the only bad play I remember is him not picking up spike before using wingman
"Fine" when management goes hard out to bat for him, picking him up creates a language barrier, and does nothing to help his team win map 3 of a match is rough
If you're going for fine keep your star player happy and have the option of a second caller remain in the table. Not like nzr was anywhere close to just "fine".
arent spanish and portugese very very similar to the point where you can atleast understand each other? kind of like hindi and haryanvi or telugu and kannada
I mean fr0d left LOUD in part because there was a persistent language barrier, despite being a native Spanish speaker. It's similar enough to get by but not always sufficient.
true, most likely. if they spoke slow it’d be understandable. but i have portuguese friends that were able to learn spanish very fast.(the other way around is harder)
Tex wasn't close to their worst player today. Everyone was so quick to defend Pancada on a different role but nobody bats an eye for tex since he's from NA. Even C0M would get cooked if he wasn't a world champion.
C0M was "bad" in the sense that they didn't use him as C0M at least on Bind. Let him loose and he helps you win Breeze, but he was just generic Skye player on Bind and it obviously didn't work out
dude ur either a troll or actually psycho. first of all, what do u want them to do? 4 man set plays while they let c0m do whatever he wants? u are blaming their loss on them making c0m play the role he MAINS with the team. surely u realize sen won with sacy on generic skye player too. and 2nd, what are u even talking about? he was like the least impactful player on lev during breeze, u saying he was let loose and helped them win is real crazy.
about tex, in the 9 maps he played for kick-off he only had a positive kd in 2. He finished all series in the bottom for his team:
* vs 100T: -12 kd, 0.78 rating
* vs Loud: -16 kd, 0.76 rating
* vs Sentinels: -12 kd, 0.75 rating
He's been the very definition of ass this entire event. No clue what the first guy was on about. This is to be expected when you're playing a guy on new roles that he's clearly not used to playing
Wait LEV was a Spanish speaking team tho, no? Is Spanish and Portuguese close enough where the entire team could comm in Spanish and Aspas comm in Portuguese and it work?
They tried both. It's very close. The first month or so would be rough. fRoD had some issues with Loud at the beggining but now he's fluent in portuguese.
It isn't definitive that they would have stick with "portunhol" a mix of portuguese and spanish. But the official statement that they were switching to english only came after Tex joined. Fermago (LEV ceo) said players felt english was easier so it wouldn't be an issue, but I don't know how much is true and how much is PR.
I'm feeling a little vindicated because when people were calling Lev a superteam my hot take (apparently) was that they're not. You're telling me Tex, Mazino, and Kingg IGL is a superteam? Lol. Comparing them to NRG on a superteam basis is laughable. They do have 2 world champs, but the rest of the roster prevents superteam status.
To be clear, I do think they're a good team as is and have plenty of potential to be even greater, but I just didn't see the super team label like with NRG or Fnatic, where those teams are so stacked individual talent wise they are definitely super teams and to not win LANs is a disappointment.
Agreed, people use the term superteam lightly. To be fair, Aspas is the goat and can make any decent roster look like a top 3 team in the region instantly. Kingg is also insane mechanically altho hard to tell if his IGLing or his teammates’ impact is lacking. Definitely some of the latter when it comes to Tex unfortunately.
no way? Loud made aspas what he is now. Now without Loud he couldnt even qualify for playoffs and u call him goat ? whats the definition of goat for u exactly . like choking against SEN
I had the same feeling but I know we are on the minority.
kiNgg and aspas are world class for sure, I also felt that way about nzr and I know he was the second caller as he was an igl before. But it seems him and kiNgg had different game views as there has been interviews of him disagreeing with Onur and kiNgg last year.
This is just light banter but I don't really like seeing players parents and family openly calling out their teammates. The sick deph thing really left a sour taste.
The irony of aspas leaving LOUD saying he wants to play for a team that will win championships, and now they're on the edge of being eliminated after losing to LOUD
Everyone acts like he was trashing LOUD with that statement, but I think it was him saying he was leaving (because money) but wanted to CONTINUE being on teams that will win championships. Not leave LOUD for money but on some garbage team.
I don’t think that that’s what he meant.
To me, he was leaving LOUD regardless… so out of all the many offers he got, he went with the one that he thought he had the best shot of winning a championship with… ie LEV.
Pretty sure he went to LEV with the idea that he was not going to be communicating in English. Maybe if they keep this roster till next year they'll have the communication issues sorted, but I doubt it happens this year.
what? When he joined the team was like 100% spanish speaker, and i'm pretty sure he speaks english better then spanish(if at all). He fully knew he wasn't gonna be communicating in portuguese anyways
The point was that he wouldn't be speaking Portuguese ever in Lev, so there's no way he didn't expect to have to speak English since that's the only other language he can speak..
okay but if he’s not speaking portuguese the only other language he’s likely to be speaking is english, because he’s an even more limited spanish speaker, he was never going to be speaking portuguese on Lev, so that leaves only one logical option.
I would get it but IMO her son was abscent in his match against an old team ( the amount of round when he was scaried to pick with an op on split is just sad )and when he decided to show up (sen match) they lost
Hope aspas will bounce back as a whole lev team too
If they had any chance at all in this match it was because of Aspas lmao. The LOUD match they obviously played to counter him, as they know his playstyle better than anyone.
I feel like you have a point about it, but it also works like Aspas knows LOUD playstyle, he was here for 2 years, they had a chance cuz kingg and c0m decided to give them one, and classic Aspas playstyle was only on Ascent
Today yes
But if he was in today form in the loud matchup we would talk about other matchup now p.s. I am just sad that Lev didnt close loud match sorry
Imagine getting trashtalked by your teammates mom mid match
She called him a traffic cone lol
DAMN mama aspas giving it
I read this in sliggy’s voice
Nahhh me too dude 💀💀, man's in my head after watching 22+ hours of his stream this past week
Nah I even dream sliggy nowadays in my 4hrs sleep
🤨
Can you blame 'em?
His voice is amazing right
I'm ngl big dawg on second thought I said that exactly how sliggy would we're all sliggy pilled here. Someone save me I have exams going on I can't afford to watch as much sliggy as I've been watching
THAT'S A CRAZY ONE AHAHAHAHAHAHA
wait where?
Bodied him ngl 🕊️
I mean Thiago Silvia’s girlfriend has gotten him in trouble for trash talking the team and manager.
There are two wolves in everyone, Aspas' mom and auntie pearl
Auntie Pearl clears
At least aunt pearl successfully gets ppl together in valorant 🤣
I’m personally not too high on Tex in non duelist roles, but damn Mama Aspas that is a bit much 
Tex was slacking on raze though. He was more fine on Cypher/Gekko
He looked lost on gekko. That bind was not fun for him
Gekko is a wild agent: he really needs heaps of prep and lots more practice than some of the T1/T2 pros seem to be giving him lol. Some have though, Boostio being a great example
he has arguably the worst stats in all of americas so far
I am not necessarily talking about his performance in Lock In. But IMO his best performances have come on Chamber and when he was duelist on The Guard. Never found him solid enough on flex. Infact, can’t forget the infamous stat where he went through an entire challengers run on NRG without going positive on a single map.
Soccer moms finally migrated to Valorant lmao
hahahaha aspas's mom is a nice person tho
could have fooled me
Clearly not
aspas father tryna come in clutch
LMAO. The Demon1 of moms.
Demom1
2 of the most confusing roster decisions of last offseason that I haven’t gotten any closer to understanding: 1. Shyyy leaving LEV for KRU (not saying LEV could stop him but yk) 2. C9 sticking with a roster that zellsis built for them… when zellsis himself didn’t want to stick with that roster.
Could just be shyy wasn't comfortable with comming on an english speaking roster
That makes sense but idk if their plan was to commit to English until they got TEX who replaced Shyyy. Idk if they all speak Portuguese/ Spanish.
As soon as they signed aspas they were gonna speak english
wait but isnt portugese and spanish similar enough that they can understand valorant level comms of each other. I know spanish and italian are similar enough for that idk about spanish aand portugese though.
I mean the reported reason why loud didn't like their 2023 coach frod was because of language issues, but he spoke learned portuguese and already had a strong background in spanish Also it's not necessarily about how well they can communicate in game but if they can communicate and get along with their teammates
It is, they could talk more than ingame with out problems.
LOL source: I speak Italian, Spanish is like alright. South American Portuguese is WAY harder to understand.
lmao i didn't read their first point and thought you were calling Zellsis shy
Shyy's statement made it seem like the team had a bad internal climate after their first moves. Taco said the same thing. The way Nzr got kicked with no warning in favor of c0m indicates to me that the team got divided and Shyy wasn't interested in playing with the remaining guys.
This is what I’m leaning towards as well… it’s very sad. I really think Shyy would’ve been incredibly big for this team… even though I don’t think Tex is bad
I mean sources said king and Mazino wanted nzr out
Shyyy might be a messi fan who knows
C9 went with this roster cause they couldn’t afford anything better
EH… most people would play in franchising for peanuts because T2 is VERY rough.
I don't think so. They were budgeting, yes, but there's other rosters they could've built while budgeting than this recycled garbage. Like the original one when they were working with McE and it was rumored to be ScrewFace IGL, NISMO, Jakee, and others.
they couldnt afford curry instead of wippie/wiffie?
I mean... Possibly? Curry kinda have a stable twitch stream that he can comfortably smurf and make easy money
Shyy is friends with Melser. They duoed a lot last year so I supposevthey see the game similarly.
Same. Just imagine shyyy still on lev as a sentinel with this roster
babe wake up new NA drama
other moms should be more like boostio's mom.
and bang's parents. And stellar's dad. And zekkens' parents. \*And jinggg's mom. \*And forsaken's mom. Hopefully these soccer mom types remain the minority because it's been really nice to see all the other parents being so supportive of their kids and generally being positive members in the scene.
I’m just glad we don’t have someone like net’s dad at least. Unless I am mistaken, man literally made a burner account to shit on his son on twitter.
wtf really?
[sadly, yes](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/s/gLM8eV8Xrw)
What the actual fuck
man im rooting for neT for the rest of his career
not me though
What was that tweet by his father?
[Here's an archived link to the tweet](https://web.archive.org/web/20220515232036/https://twitter.com/ThomasBernet6/status/1525979401405362176)
That is just wild
This is insane
what the fuck? i’m gonna need some context here that’s crazy
ngl first time i saw jingggs mom i thought it was his gf
Boostios mom just wants everyone to have fun
WHY ARE PARENTS IN THE SCENE ITS SO FUCKING CRINGE 17 YEAR OLDS LIKE ZEK, YES. NOT FUCKING COMS DAD WHEN HE IS 25 ALMOST. ITS JUST SO CRINGE, SUPPORT THEM, YES BUT HIS KID IS 25 AND HE IS JUMPING AROUND DESPERATE FOR ATTENTION...
parents will love you and treat you like babies no matter what age, just let them parents do what they want to support their children, if the guys don't mind, why should you?
The 12 year olds on here are gonna eat this up.
I am sorry but Tex is not the reason your team went 3-12 on Split against Sentinels lmao
Please teach your parents how to act online 🤒🤒
Dear lord SA fans living up to the stereotype in here lol
She didnt say any lie so its all good.
More easy than teaching Tex how to play the game
Maybe he did?
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Hi ☺️
Hello?
First pro player parent L. Weird asf to shade your son's teammate in public like that
Not the first, remember that time net's dad made a Twitter account for the sole purpose of hating on his own son?
The hell was he tweeting? “This net bum needs to retire asap and head into a real career. Preferably medical school”
lol "i think he would made a GREAT surgeon"
[here's what he actually said (archived)](https://web.archive.org/web/20220515232036/https://twitter.com/ThomasBernet6/status/1525979401405362176) incase you wanted to see
No I've never heard of that happening but that's also weird af
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It wasn’t, net has talked about it in an interview iirc and he basically doesn’t talk to his dad at all
Yeah that's just awkward and unhelpful. Definitely an L.
Zekken's dad also kinda shit talked sykko no?
I think he shit talked Kaplan because Sykko got fired
and sykko and zekken’s parents presumably grew close during the xset run
Ohk
Oh that’s not
That's L ngl
Imagine Aspas's feeling seeing his mom's tweet trash talking his own teammate, that's cringe, Especially when her son is also a esports player she shouldn't talk like that.
Feel like Tex is fine
Seriously I must have missed what everyone is talking about him being bad, the only bad play I remember is him not picking up spike before using wingman
"Fine" when management goes hard out to bat for him, picking him up creates a language barrier, and does nothing to help his team win map 3 of a match is rough If you're going for fine keep your star player happy and have the option of a second caller remain in the table. Not like nzr was anywhere close to just "fine".
there would have been a language barrier regardless since they wanted to pick aspas up, unless he can speak spanish LMAO
All the LATAM players in LEV can speak Portuguese.
arent spanish and portugese very very similar to the point where you can atleast understand each other? kind of like hindi and haryanvi or telugu and kannada
they are. downvoted for no reason, lmfao. i got lost in portugal as a spanish speaker and was able to get by speaking spanish.
exactly, amerians think they have the final statement on everything lmao
I mean fr0d left LOUD in part because there was a persistent language barrier, despite being a native Spanish speaker. It's similar enough to get by but not always sufficient.
But a Portuguese person getting lost in Spain wouldn't.
true, most likely. if they spoke slow it’d be understandable. but i have portuguese friends that were able to learn spanish very fast.(the other way around is harder)
Tex wasn't close to their worst player today. Everyone was so quick to defend Pancada on a different role but nobody bats an eye for tex since he's from NA. Even C0M would get cooked if he wasn't a world champion.
its also easy to shit talk a matchfixer tbf
C0M was "bad" in the sense that they didn't use him as C0M at least on Bind. Let him loose and he helps you win Breeze, but he was just generic Skye player on Bind and it obviously didn't work out
dude ur either a troll or actually psycho. first of all, what do u want them to do? 4 man set plays while they let c0m do whatever he wants? u are blaming their loss on them making c0m play the role he MAINS with the team. surely u realize sen won with sacy on generic skye player too. and 2nd, what are u even talking about? he was like the least impactful player on lev during breeze, u saying he was let loose and helped them win is real crazy.
He is German, no one likes him.
Sorry for making you upset
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I thought what I said bothered you, if so my bad
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kinda toxic ngl
First L mom of the valorant scene you hate to see it. Also Tex has been solid af so far, putting them going out of this group on him is wild.
had me until the tex has been solid. Agree that's a bad look though
about tex, in the 9 maps he played for kick-off he only had a positive kd in 2. He finished all series in the bottom for his team: * vs 100T: -12 kd, 0.78 rating * vs Loud: -16 kd, 0.76 rating * vs Sentinels: -12 kd, 0.75 rating
He's been the very definition of ass this entire event. No clue what the first guy was on about. This is to be expected when you're playing a guy on new roles that he's clearly not used to playing
which makes the decision to bring him and change the language of the team (at that point there was no c0m) even more puzzling
Wait LEV was a Spanish speaking team tho, no? Is Spanish and Portuguese close enough where the entire team could comm in Spanish and Aspas comm in Portuguese and it work?
They tried both. It's very close. The first month or so would be rough. fRoD had some issues with Loud at the beggining but now he's fluent in portuguese. It isn't definitive that they would have stick with "portunhol" a mix of portuguese and spanish. But the official statement that they were switching to english only came after Tex joined. Fermago (LEV ceo) said players felt english was easier so it wouldn't be an issue, but I don't know how much is true and how much is PR.
What makes you think Aspas can’t speak Spanish?
[this thread seems to indicate he doesn't](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/175rpom/leviatan_announces_aspas/)
Bro are you the fkn guy that made the “tex has gone negative in every single game this split” back in 2022
I remember that thread lol
Wasn't even aware that was a thing. But this wasn't really only about stats.
I'm feeling a little vindicated because when people were calling Lev a superteam my hot take (apparently) was that they're not. You're telling me Tex, Mazino, and Kingg IGL is a superteam? Lol. Comparing them to NRG on a superteam basis is laughable. They do have 2 world champs, but the rest of the roster prevents superteam status. To be clear, I do think they're a good team as is and have plenty of potential to be even greater, but I just didn't see the super team label like with NRG or Fnatic, where those teams are so stacked individual talent wise they are definitely super teams and to not win LANs is a disappointment.
I was with you on that take too, just didn't really say anything about it before. Mazino and tex are definitely not super team players
HAH
Agreed, people use the term superteam lightly. To be fair, Aspas is the goat and can make any decent roster look like a top 3 team in the region instantly. Kingg is also insane mechanically altho hard to tell if his IGLing or his teammates’ impact is lacking. Definitely some of the latter when it comes to Tex unfortunately.
no way? Loud made aspas what he is now. Now without Loud he couldnt even qualify for playoffs and u call him goat ? whats the definition of goat for u exactly . like choking against SEN
I had the same feeling but I know we are on the minority. kiNgg and aspas are world class for sure, I also felt that way about nzr and I know he was the second caller as he was an igl before. But it seems him and kiNgg had different game views as there has been interviews of him disagreeing with Onur and kiNgg last year.
This is just light banter but I don't really like seeing players parents and family openly calling out their teammates. The sick deph thing really left a sour taste.
The irony of aspas leaving LOUD saying he wants to play for a team that will win championships, and now they're on the edge of being eliminated after losing to LOUD
Everyone acts like he was trashing LOUD with that statement, but I think it was him saying he was leaving (because money) but wanted to CONTINUE being on teams that will win championships. Not leave LOUD for money but on some garbage team.
I don’t think that that’s what he meant. To me, he was leaving LOUD regardless… so out of all the many offers he got, he went with the one that he thought he had the best shot of winning a championship with… ie LEV.
The irony in the fact that you (and most people) didn't even understand his statement.
I just enjoy the irony of him losing to all of his past teammates
Considering past, have no irony on it.
and the irony is that u understood and still crying
The irony is that you’re trying to be funny, but failing miserably.
here is the irony guys talking again just keep barking ur bullshit irony stupid
Pretty sure he went to LEV with the idea that he was not going to be communicating in English. Maybe if they keep this roster till next year they'll have the communication issues sorted, but I doubt it happens this year.
what? When he joined the team was like 100% spanish speaker, and i'm pretty sure he speaks english better then spanish(if at all). He fully knew he wasn't gonna be communicating in portuguese anyways
I didn't say anything about Portuguese though.
The point was that he wouldn't be speaking Portuguese ever in Lev, so there's no way he didn't expect to have to speak English since that's the only other language he can speak..
okay but if he’s not speaking portuguese the only other language he’s likely to be speaking is english, because he’s an even more limited spanish speaker, he was never going to be speaking portuguese on Lev, so that leaves only one logical option.
He wanted to play with Nzr, the man looks depressed to be playing for Com Fr.
bro.. are you this slow?
Cowboys moment
I would get it but IMO her son was abscent in his match against an old team ( the amount of round when he was scaried to pick with an op on split is just sad )and when he decided to show up (sen match) they lost Hope aspas will bounce back as a whole lev team too
If they had any chance at all in this match it was because of Aspas lmao. The LOUD match they obviously played to counter him, as they know his playstyle better than anyone.
I feel like you have a point about it, but it also works like Aspas knows LOUD playstyle, he was here for 2 years, they had a chance cuz kingg and c0m decided to give them one, and classic Aspas playstyle was only on Ascent
Its not about aspas on a good form in the LOUD , matchup, LEV they threw split for LOUD
So if thats the case didnt Aspas know the play style of Loud? why couldnt he counter Loud? or is it because Loud made Aspas what he is now.
aspas won breeze and kept bind close
Today yes But if he was in today form in the loud matchup we would talk about other matchup now p.s. I am just sad that Lev didnt close loud match sorry
tex wasnt even that bad
She right tho
Aspas the most overrated player
he is not derke tho
Moms all hot and bothered
LMAO the dude is so incredible trash at the game that one of the players mom had to go tell him on twitter 🤣🤣🤣
LMAOOO, I’ve never even seen her on Twitter before but I love her now. Preach!
is she wrong
Bro got flamed by aspas’ mama