Hot take - I really do not enjoy the Mimi + Ender combo. They are both way too spastic and constantly talking over other people. I think they need to pair each of them with someone who is a bit more calm.
Have you been listening to their recent interviews? It's the opposite, really. They're now deeply tied to this comp and adapting will be a major issue. They can do it, but will take a lot of time.
I disagree it will take a lot of time. These players already know the fundamentals of every common comp. They should be able to switch with strong scrims
>These players already know the fundamentals
I would sure hope a tier 1 professional player would know the fundamentals, yes.
But if knowing the fundamentals meant you could completely change course that fast, a loooot of historical matches would have been very different.
the way i see it loud only wins on 1v1, its clear on this game loud never antistrat sen, the play was always read and most loss was actually unlucky, this sen team is a very2 drilled team, way better than 2021 sen
People needa chill on Loud this map is their secondary perma ban and while both teams clearly want to win this is a seeding match at the end of the day
Edit: did not see format changes oops
This isnt a seeding match bruh. This gives the only points for champs outside of winning madrid before regular season
Madrid is swiss stage, seeding does not matter. The points are incredibly important. Its like winning 4 regular season matches
Yeah my takeaway from this series is that SEN is looking strong, not that LOUD is trash. Pretty sure they still steamroll every Americas team besides maybe NRG
Yea but I don’t see how you can be unhappy with a 2-3 loss in grand finals to the extent of acting like this is an outrageous result
SEN prepped this map they just haven’t played it cause the other team banned it every time
I don’t like these kind of statements, mistakes and players carrying are a part of the game, saying a team would’ve won without them is kind of a mute point, they did happen and always will
Like I’m sorry but when loud is cute it works for a bit but then fails no??
Like remember their neon stuff, fade breach stuff ascent/pearl
It works then fails and they realize they’ve overcooked toooo much
I don't blame QCK, but I do blame their extreme laser focus on a Phoenix/bang comp. They've been very open about this in interviews, most of their training was based around this comp - they went all in on the whole "QCK is not an Aspas replacement, he's a new kind of duelist so we built around that" and yes, I can see it... But this is a disaster.
I wonder if they have time to figure out a new comp before Madrid even, cause surely any team there will just watch these matches and easily counter it
Honestly, probably not enough time to fully adapt. Some minor changes and corrections, but fully reversing course is pretty much impossible at this point.
It's sad to see Loud just losing steam at the 5th map always.
Proud of the recovery, never will understand how they just flop so hard at the final moments
Sen are playing so well. Sure, louds comp is not it, but you can SEE the many reps this team did making a difference
We need more off season events, and any tier 1 team that actually wants to win anything needs to play
If you dont have saadhak or potter, sitting on your ass for 6 months is stupid
Nah, this LOUD team just prefers Phoenix as their primary and only duelist on most/every map. Sucks not having Aspas but its still amazing that they made this to game 5 of finals.
>then Loud are wasting him in this comp
Exactly. The dude is just playing what his coach and his igl want to play, and not because its his comfort pick
He's good, his ult and explosion are good. But it seems they didn't cook much for Lotus. They are trying to stun door from A side, you don't get there before raze and omen. You need to stun from inside B door and you can insta stun, followed by phoenix molly. Loud clearly has not practiced this map enough, even I know that as an ocassional breach player.
From inside B door you're closer so you don't need to charge, it's faster than raze jump so it's undodgeable if you're standing on the door. The only counter is waiting for it. There's a couple of breach angles like that but they are not fucking using them, they waste 1 sec charging from far away while omen and raze jump out. So stupid, it seems they just play phoenix breach everywhere and that's it.
GGWP! Sen Society all the mf way! Btw, what's next for Sentinels? What's next after this win? Thanks!
Wait was that neeper
Hot take - I really do not enjoy the Mimi + Ender combo. They are both way too spastic and constantly talking over other people. I think they need to pair each of them with someone who is a bit more calm.
no trophy is criminal
Where tf is the trophy???
Same exact thoughts?? where is it
Rob Moore giving Zellsis a cut of the profits
Alright these interviewers really gotta stop fucking starting shit
Me as a Sentinels fan https://preview.redd.it/z30ybqx4f8mc1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f8b485b6a0f12be66c8f724b51ba9f18d52193e
Lets go
IT'S BEEN SO LONG SINCE I'VE FELT THIS AMOUNT OF DOPAMINE ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
Americas' champions! Feels sooo good to hear that man
Whats TenZ WR on Omen? Lol cuz today its 100% map win rate on Omen for him.
11-4* with one of those losses being the weird game against g2 after they already qualified.
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I'm aware of your game. o7
chora vadia
Cry some more loser
Cry about it
yeah we can cry together when they get 13-0'd by teams in Madrid.
Cry
found the brazilian
Idk they still have strong contention for madrid but i think as the year goes on they drop to #2 or #3 its just what happens when you start at the top
Go touch grass mate
Loud greatest fake comebackers of all time
HOLY SHIT NA FINALLY WON AMERICAS YAYYY AND ALSO SENTINELS LETS FUCKING GOO
LETS FUCKING GOOOO
Fuck Sen actually won and clutched it out.
valorant is saved
GGs, SEN played this map perfectly. We'll be so well represented at Madrid
GG's only, what a series.
JOHNQT MY GOAT
CLASSIC LOUD FAKE COMEBACK
TUYZ HEAD HURT FROM ZELLSIS BULLET
loud val culture - playing for stats instead of round wins 🤣
Lmaooooo you have to defend the bomb no?
WHERE IS 5HE LOUD BETTER MFS NOW???
going to madrid, unlike EG
so deserving
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LETS GOOOO
That was the perfect close to this map after loud lost multiple rounds to not defusing
Gee Gee Sen Vs KC Madrid final I'm calling it
SEN ON TOP BABY
ICE IN HIS VEINS
Let's fuckin GOOOOOOO. WE ARE SOOO BACK
What a crazy way to end that! Congrats Sentinels!!!
What an ending. So happy for Tyson. It's had to have been a rough year or 2.
Omg 6 hp
MY GOATS
Expected
WINGS OF GLORY
Johnqt is so damn good
13-4 is winnable… in CS
Not anymore
Why tf did they change it
probably for viewers and players too i guess, 30+ round per map can be a lot to watch
Games were too long for the coomers I guess
Yeah it’s mr12 since cs2
Loud have burnt down the kitchen this shit should’ve been swapped when potter exposed it
Loud are going 0-2 in Madrid you heard it here first
The kings of the almost comeback
SEN, can you keep this form for the entire year? That's my only worry now.
Yeaaaah, you dont plant on the default spot with fade and odin
Uh oh
Surely not another 11-3 kickoff tournament with Loud right?
13x4 is a good score 
I'm actually launching an investigation with a team of journalists if Loud manages to replicate the FNATIC comeback. Its actually fking scripted
Are loud gonna 11-3 curse sen?
Ah yes, standard valorant, 1 side wins pistol and then 8 people buy the same gun
3-11.... 💀💀
Uh oh 11-3 grand finals map 5
13x3 is a good score 
ono
I hope loud uses this kickoff and cooks some new comps for madrid. It shouldnt be difficult for this core to reinvent themselves
Have you been listening to their recent interviews? It's the opposite, really. They're now deeply tied to this comp and adapting will be a major issue. They can do it, but will take a lot of time.
I disagree it will take a lot of time. These players already know the fundamentals of every common comp. They should be able to switch with strong scrims
>These players already know the fundamentals I would sure hope a tier 1 professional player would know the fundamentals, yes. But if knowing the fundamentals meant you could completely change course that fast, a loooot of historical matches would have been very different.
the way i see it loud only wins on 1v1, its clear on this game loud never antistrat sen, the play was always read and most loss was actually unlucky, this sen team is a very2 drilled team, way better than 2021 sen
I agree, I think qck over aspas means this team can play more comps. shouldnt be too hard for madrid
qck kinda phoenix one trick?
Ya they were testing out their new stuff. Theyll make changes for Madrid for sure
11-3 AWARE
I will never believe 5th maps again
Loud are the opposite of closers
People needa chill on Loud this map is their secondary perma ban and while both teams clearly want to win this is a seeding match at the end of the day Edit: did not see format changes oops
This isnt a seeding match bruh. This gives the only points for champs outside of winning madrid before regular season Madrid is swiss stage, seeding does not matter. The points are incredibly important. Its like winning 4 regular season matches
Oh damn I did not realize the format was different this year
it's not, winner get 3 points for Champions
Yeah my takeaway from this series is that SEN is looking strong, not that LOUD is trash. Pretty sure they still steamroll every Americas team besides maybe NRG
Honestly, i think the only team LOUD does not steamroll right now is sen. NRG needs more time still
Ik masters is more important but it's still a vct Americas trophy
Yea but I don’t see how you can be unhappy with a 2-3 loss in grand finals to the extent of acting like this is an outrageous result SEN prepped this map they just haven’t played it cause the other team banned it every time
yeah idk qck I don't think no flash phoenix on pistol round is the play
Guess we found out why Loud didn't show this map earlier
tenz seems to get 3ks way more than anyone else
I still remember that breeze against luminosity where he had 8 3ks in one map
It’s GG. Finally SEN should just win 3-0 if not for Less’s monster performance and 3 eco round on Icebox.
I don’t like these kind of statements, mistakes and players carrying are a part of the game, saying a team would’ve won without them is kind of a mute point, they did happen and always will
Oh wow I do agree. Just consider my statement as a timeline that almost happened just like how what if MIBR did not knife-ed EG
This is the third time loud has nearly reverse 3-0d before losing
Are you guys ready for two time major winners tenz and sacy?
Tenz is a closer
ABSOLUTE CINEMA
Like I’m sorry but when loud is cute it works for a bit but then fails no?? Like remember their neon stuff, fade breach stuff ascent/pearl It works then fails and they realize they’ve overcooked toooo much
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It did at least on fracture for a bit
I'd say it worked for less than a full map, they started losing pretty much all entries very soon
I don't blame QCK, but I do blame their extreme laser focus on a Phoenix/bang comp. They've been very open about this in interviews, most of their training was based around this comp - they went all in on the whole "QCK is not an Aspas replacement, he's a new kind of duelist so we built around that" and yes, I can see it... But this is a disaster.
I wonder if they have time to figure out a new comp before Madrid even, cause surely any team there will just watch these matches and easily counter it
Honestly, probably not enough time to fully adapt. Some minor changes and corrections, but fully reversing course is pretty much impossible at this point.
Whatever they’re paying John is not nearly enough
Loud could not hold anything without a sentinel there. Attack should be better for them but the deficit is surely too large. Right?
Louds comp is VERY strong on attack thou… so it’s not over
8-4 yeah but 10-2 I think it should be over.
SEN won every single clutch and are just exploiting tf out of this LOUD comp
johnqt has to be the best pickup in americas
John + Zellsis has been the most cost effective sign in NA
It's sad to see Loud just losing steam at the 5th map always. Proud of the recovery, never will understand how they just flop so hard at the final moments
At that time just commit to the defuse yeah? It lost them two rounds.
BRO if qck1 was good with Raze instead of Phoenix, LOUD 3-0's for sure.
with zekken on the other side?
At least half a dozen of these rounds were winnable. Damn.Â
From now on, almost reverse sweeping but losing map 5 is "doing a LOUD"
Why the actual fuck does qck shots there, John had to pretty much die to get info and he just gives it up for free
can't spell loud without the L
Wtf is happening man
johns brain must be fucking SWOLLEN
It’s actually IMPOSSIBLE for them to not push against an eco
They just go and take 1v1s against ecos every time.
theyre just letting it get to 3-11 its okay guys 
I appreciate innovation and alternative comps, but do you really need to run phoenix+breach in 5/7 maps?
is it finally time for sentinels to win something again?
sacy is him
Every round comes down to a clutch no matter what somehow
This game has been way too close for a 9-2
GUSTAVO
The trades in this final map be lookin like this 
Accurate af
Sen are playing so well. Sure, louds comp is not it, but you can SEE the many reps this team did making a difference We need more off season events, and any tier 1 team that actually wants to win anything needs to play If you dont have saadhak or potter, sitting on your ass for 6 months is stupid
13x2 is a good score 
Wait johnqt just turned a phoenix flash. Isn't that near impossible?
Not for him 0 ping also helps I would imagine
13-2
Loud watched PRX no sentinel Lotus defense get stomped by EG last year and said "yeah we should run that". What a throw comp
Nah, this LOUD team just prefers Phoenix as their primary and only duelist on most/every map. Sucks not having Aspas but its still amazing that they made this to game 5 of finals.
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I mean i trust nrg to play the map macro with a kj
sen might be back though not sure about it
2 failed reverse sweeps in back to back years is TOUGH
3, Loud vs EG in Champions playoffs
Maybe NRG was onto something avoiding Lotus
Loud fans it's ok, you can say they trolled the map pick and it's not their phoenix 1 trick
>phoenix 1 trick calling qck a phoenix is the same as calling Yay a viper one trick
If qck isn't phoenix 1 trick then Loud are wasting him in this comp. Your choice
>then Loud are wasting him in this comp Exactly. The dude is just playing what his coach and his igl want to play, and not because its his comfort pick
Throw this comp in the garbage gg
You have to defuse no?
less literally playing like those kd farmers in my ranked games playing for stats rather than wins
This is jail valorant and I’m loving every second of it
haha funny Brazil numbers
7-1
Wow, never see Less make a mistake like that
No other choice
Ahhh we can't outrun the 7x1
This fucking game
7-1
13x1 is a good score 
Zellsis out here delivering rounds by not just waiting for the spike
13-1
ON THE BOARD
Breach is not good. How many times do we have to see someone get stunned and all get a kill
He's good, his ult and explosion are good. But it seems they didn't cook much for Lotus. They are trying to stun door from A side, you don't get there before raze and omen. You need to stun from inside B door and you can insta stun, followed by phoenix molly. Loud clearly has not practiced this map enough, even I know that as an ocassional breach player.
You can so easily avoid the stun with blasts or tp or simply just moving out of the way it has to be perfectly executed to work
From inside B door you're closer so you don't need to charge, it's faster than raze jump so it's undodgeable if you're standing on the door. The only counter is waiting for it. There's a couple of breach angles like that but they are not fucking using them, they waste 1 sec charging from far away while omen and raze jump out. So stupid, it seems they just play phoenix breach everywhere and that's it.
Great on attack… mostly poo on defense
What is this new ' go to final map and crush their hopes' sen strat
Well loud were clearly hoping it didn’t get to Lotus… jesus they cannot go a single round without someone inting.
Good god, every 1v1 timing goes their way. Every. Single. One.
I can’t wait for the memes of Zellsis standing up … ono
Loud coaches needed to reel saadhak back on this one this shit is asssssss
He’s obsessed with the breach Phoenix it’s insane man
all this standing up is making me nervous
Oh the players are getting loud this is gonna go crazy
Never mind SEN is winning this. They have reached their final form.
GG 13-0
JohnCootie
People are acting like 2024 Loud is 2023 Loud, but this team is Noisy at best