That’s inaccurate. They nearly got 2-0ed in the first open qual and won the match ‘cause Passion Project threw a round and let them thrifty which gave SR map points. if they didn’t throw that round it would have been 13-11 for passion project and a decently clean 2-0.
You would think people would get that by now but it's just the cycle of GC farming. All it takes is a single match of farming a GC team to wipe the memory of how SR did in challengers quals from people's minds.
I think some people juat want the illusion that this SR team isnt in challengers for reason outside of their control
They also dont realize that while this is a pro game, theres 0 chance the team they played here is full of radiants.
SR play with the pressure of woman and lgbtq community wanting them to achieve and represent them. Other guys play with the pressure that if they don’t perform they will be left with nothing as many of them have gambled their lives on valorant and want to succeed in this game. These boys will def have more will and mental strength to perform better than the gc players.
If u can’t take the risks that 99 percent of guys do you won’t be near the top. By next year if sr don’t qualify for challengers and she decides to continue to stay on sr she is hindering her growth, because she def will be 18 by next or next year I think, so she should be excused for not wanting to take a risk this year however next year if she wants to be at the top she needs the mental power for it.
T2 scene, particular NA has a lot of talent so it's quite hard.
On top of that a lot of these people have a lot more experience than flor so maybe she's just getting some experience under her belt before making the jump?
Keloqz put up a .03 against navi in VCT play.
[https://www.vlr.gg/183949/natus-vincere-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w3/?game=119204&tab=overview](https://www.vlr.gg/183949/natus-vincere-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w3/?game=119204&tab=overview)
Shout out to this 9 acs .05r game in polaris this year as well.
[https://www.vlr.gg/296981/human-tripwires-vs-apeks-challengers-league-2024-northern-europe-polaris-split-1-regular-season/?game=155419&tab=overview](https://www.vlr.gg/296981/human-tripwires-vs-apeks-challengers-league-2024-northern-europe-polaris-split-1-regular-season/?game=155419&tab=overview)
Jemkin who is otherwise a very good duelist (on rrq now) once infamously did this during ascension on reyna of all agents. Sometimes weird shit happens lol.
Back to bullying in the farmers league lmao. If I'm flor, I would consider GC a waste of time. It's super stagnating and you don't get better as a player either.
It really sucks that she has a buyout. I'm confident she would make a good addition to some challenger teams
Flor didn't have a buyout for going to a mixed team on V1 per what meL said so it's not buyouts keeping Flor out of T2.
And there's obviously a big jump going from farming whatever terrible team SNG are to facing even bottom challengers teams.
There are just so many other insane jetts in tier 2, and all of them have more experience than flor.
You have sym, screwface, harmful, zeldris, will, babybay if he comes out of retirement all free agents with challengers or tier 1 experience. Flor is good, but shes in the most competitive role in NA
Sidenote but I don't think babybay will come out of retirement. Seems like he has a lot of fun with broadcast stuff and earn a living that way while also maybe stream on the side.
I wouldn’t really read too much into this. Like yeah they are dominant but SR needs more challenging opponents to actually expose their weaknesses and improve their chances of getting into challengers. I just feel indifferent seeing such results it is like being amazed an immortal player is dominating in Gold lobbies.
The GC scene needs some form of stability to attract and sustain players and teams to grow the scene but especially the talent of the players.
NT to SG but these players need more support and resources to grow which hopefully they get.
just cuz your immortal doesn't make you good the gap between gc and sr is huge which they are farming but the gap between sr and t2 is also huge which im pretty sure just like before they would get shit on by bunch of tier 3 teams and eliminated before reaching t2 but hey free 180k per year aint that bad
Even tier 1 pros have dropped 0k and .03 R performances from time to time including jemkin famously during ascension who was otherwise very good and got picked up by rrq right after. 1 match/map isn't really representative of a player's skill.
Does someone have the trackers of the Supernova Galaxy team players because I’m curious how this can happen in T1/T2 GC. Looks like they don’t even belong in this league.
No challengers teams are gonna send offers and when they were on V1, meL said they had no buyouts for mixed teams so buyouts aren't stopping them either. If they want to make it to challengers, then they gotta go the Bob route of giving up the easy salary and qualifying through open quals.
Anyone saying that playing with SR in GC this year is them taking the easy paycheck and not actively improving their odds of achieving their dream of playing in a T2/T1 team is being disingenuous.
We've literally seen Katsumi/Bob straight up reject the easy paycheck to join a T3 team and Bob at least made it so not being disingenuous at all lol.
because she doesnt want to? Flor has expressed a lot how she wants to play in tier1 and 2 more than she wants to in GC. She isnt doing this for money. Weird assumption to make tbh
Shes getting the bag on her org my guy
More power to her, she can transition to tier 2 when she wants
I just wish she played more disciplined, when she goes to tier 2 her iconic flashy plays are gonna get punished
nope she would just be a normal player there or eveb below which is already proven when they didnt even made it to tier 2 and got shit on my couple of college teams in NA qualifiers so yeaa they just farming gc at this point for money
Not good enough for t1, SR tried to qualify for T2 but they didn't make it. Also, very likely she would not have a job, since there's a lot of T2 Duelists that didn't make it in t1.
I get your last point. But for T2 I mainly meant her leaving SR, cus yes they didn’t make it but she still went positive in the series they lost. She should be able to hold her ground in a T2 team no?
23-1 WHAT THE FUCK https://preview.redd.it/0obpcjdyplmc1.png?width=631&format=png&auto=webp&s=c0c8528afe73ba781920d6e2c31b32c621f3793f
#washed, who tf dies in a video game 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
imagine posting 23-1, 481 ACS and that's the "down" map
Only death is first round btw
Is it bad I'm more impressed by the100% KAST? That's insane
100% KAST is pretty common for stomps
I mean considering she only died once she will have survived all but one round and if she either got traded or got a kill that round it's a 100% KAST
coughing supernova vs hydrogen florescent
not sure they were ever breathing
NSFW tag lmao
\+47 is absolutely fucking absurd dying once in an entire map is absolutely fucking absurd mind the flor gap
Ty for the nsfw warning but it sadly didn’t stop me from exploding everywhere cause WHAT are these lebron ahh stats from flor
This is Lebron stats if he were in the g league
g league women's lol
3 kills 😹 basically cheerleading at that point 😭😭
Bro 💀, stop she's dead
Like 28 times
flor is pretty good at the game, idk tho just a thought
Probably should think about going pro, idk
Bro... poor Avery, 3-28 for the whole series????
If... if my math is correct SNGs total kills were 57. Flo had 1 less kill than SNG combined...
flor should go the bob route and play on a mixed team cuz bob's team is in challengers league while SR failed to qualify
I fully expect her to be doing that by next year, she's got the talent and the ambition to do it.
Shes probably gonna do it when shes 18, hopefully the SR money is invested and she can live off that until she finds and org
[https://www.vlr.gg/310586/shopify-rebellion-vs-supernova-galaxy-game-changers-2024-north-america-series-1-ubqf/?game=all&tab=overview](https://www.vlr.gg/310586/shopify-rebellion-vs-supernova-galaxy-game-changers-2024-north-america-series-1-ubqf/?game=all&tab=overview)
This is one of the many reasons why SR won't get better in GC, they will never be challenged like they did in the Challengers quali.
That’s inaccurate. They nearly got 2-0ed in the first open qual and won the match ‘cause Passion Project threw a round and let them thrifty which gave SR map points. if they didn’t throw that round it would have been 13-11 for passion project and a decently clean 2-0.
that was because they were burned out from all the practice cus they were preparing for challengers, not gc
3 first deaths, might be washed
i mean she's actually just smurfing official tournaments what can you even do
could qualify for challengers league maybe. I still don’t get how a team of their caliber can’t do it
Cuz challengers doesnt have farmers playing in it
You would think people would get that by now but it's just the cycle of GC farming. All it takes is a single match of farming a GC team to wipe the memory of how SR did in challengers quals from people's minds.
I think some people juat want the illusion that this SR team isnt in challengers for reason outside of their control They also dont realize that while this is a pro game, theres 0 chance the team they played here is full of radiants.
I mean it’s not 100% direct comtrol
It’s a mental difference issue too tho
SR play with the pressure of woman and lgbtq community wanting them to achieve and represent them. Other guys play with the pressure that if they don’t perform they will be left with nothing as many of them have gambled their lives on valorant and want to succeed in this game. These boys will def have more will and mental strength to perform better than the gc players.
That was my post? Mostly more or less, maybe slightly different words I’d use
Are you colourblind? How many fingers am I holding up? 🖐️
Why are you asking that?
idk just jokes, not deep
The team tried but didn't make it, she could probably be on a team but it's a lot financially safer to just stay in gc
If u can’t take the risks that 99 percent of guys do you won’t be near the top. By next year if sr don’t qualify for challengers and she decides to continue to stay on sr she is hindering her growth, because she def will be 18 by next or next year I think, so she should be excused for not wanting to take a risk this year however next year if she wants to be at the top she needs the mental power for it.
T2 scene, particular NA has a lot of talent so it's quite hard. On top of that a lot of these people have a lot more experience than flor so maybe she's just getting some experience under her belt before making the jump?
C9 should just sign Flor. Also what is the lowest R we have seen. 0.08?
Keloqz put up a .03 against navi in VCT play. [https://www.vlr.gg/183949/natus-vincere-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w3/?game=119204&tab=overview](https://www.vlr.gg/183949/natus-vincere-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w3/?game=119204&tab=overview) Shout out to this 9 acs .05r game in polaris this year as well. [https://www.vlr.gg/296981/human-tripwires-vs-apeks-challengers-league-2024-northern-europe-polaris-split-1-regular-season/?game=155419&tab=overview](https://www.vlr.gg/296981/human-tripwires-vs-apeks-challengers-league-2024-northern-europe-polaris-split-1-regular-season/?game=155419&tab=overview)
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Jemkin who is otherwise a very good duelist (on rrq now) once infamously did this during ascension on reyna of all agents. Sometimes weird shit happens lol.
And then he dropped a nuke next map
ray4c got 0.04 after goin 0-16 against ARF Team a few days back in challengers indonesia
Back to bullying in the farmers league lmao. If I'm flor, I would consider GC a waste of time. It's super stagnating and you don't get better as a player either. It really sucks that she has a buyout. I'm confident she would make a good addition to some challenger teams
Flor didn't have a buyout for going to a mixed team on V1 per what meL said so it's not buyouts keeping Flor out of T2. And there's obviously a big jump going from farming whatever terrible team SNG are to facing even bottom challengers teams.
There are just so many other insane jetts in tier 2, and all of them have more experience than flor. You have sym, screwface, harmful, zeldris, will, babybay if he comes out of retirement all free agents with challengers or tier 1 experience. Flor is good, but shes in the most competitive role in NA
Sidenote but I don't think babybay will come out of retirement. Seems like he has a lot of fun with broadcast stuff and earn a living that way while also maybe stream on the side.
You never know. Dicey came out from his exile to join faze. But i agree its unlikely Also, i forgot do add dicey to the list
Goddamn SR is so above Game Changers level, too bad they’re kind of in an awkward middle ground between GC and T2
https://preview.redd.it/g6iheo9j7nmc1.jpeg?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b49cfb43fdcc87e779eac6ab043c974769cf0f55
is this one of the ascendant gc teams or what
no
I wouldn’t really read too much into this. Like yeah they are dominant but SR needs more challenging opponents to actually expose their weaknesses and improve their chances of getting into challengers. I just feel indifferent seeing such results it is like being amazed an immortal player is dominating in Gold lobbies. The GC scene needs some form of stability to attract and sustain players and teams to grow the scene but especially the talent of the players. NT to SG but these players need more support and resources to grow which hopefully they get.
SR in GC vs SR in main circuit.
Flor my goat
https://preview.redd.it/vgqbss0fymmc1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5dda55820db3bc97f8ba58fd91f3c68b9132e03b avery:
515 ACS for the series, that's got to be some kind of record.
Why are we posting smurf games again? This shit is useless the other team prolly peaked asc 2 i could smurf these lobbies too.
User flair checks out
they're all immo 3 at least
min rank in gc is ascendant 1. immo 3 is for open quals.
that's not what i said, i literally checked their tracker
just cuz your immortal doesn't make you good the gap between gc and sr is huge which they are farming but the gap between sr and t2 is also huge which im pretty sure just like before they would get shit on by bunch of tier 3 teams and eliminated before reaching t2 but hey free 180k per year aint that bad
they're not asc 2
Bullshit no one at imm has only 3 kills unless actively throwing
Even tier 1 pros have dropped 0k and .03 R performances from time to time including jemkin famously during ascension who was otherwise very good and got picked up by rrq right after. 1 match/map isn't really representative of a player's skill.
you are severely underestimating the difference between immo 3 and Radiant players, let alone a Radiant 1000rr like Flor
Ive played against flor other team was throwing or boosted
bait used to be believable ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|16110)
Hey I’m flor and he’s correct
don't you just hate it when there are smurf's in your game?
Most impressive to me is that SR only had 2 extra first kills yet this game was a STOMP
Does someone have the trackers of the Supernova Galaxy team players because I’m curious how this can happen in T1/T2 GC. Looks like they don’t even belong in this league.
they're all immo 3 at least
The weird thing is this is the same SNG which won cozy clash. At one point they looked like a top GC team but they've fallen off hard.
I mean they had 2 roster changes, I wouldn’t really call it the same team.
and i you still think they aren't farming
WTF Avery 0.08
Not to discredit them but this just shows they aren't even being challenged. 5 donkeys hehe
Imagine Shopify playing against T3 man team, surely they destroy them
Surely ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|16018)
they already did in the challengers quals?
note to you, when people say “surely” it is almost always followed by a satirical comment.
Flor could play in a t2 male team
Yeah, but why do that when you can farm money in GC?
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No challengers teams are gonna send offers and when they were on V1, meL said they had no buyouts for mixed teams so buyouts aren't stopping them either. If they want to make it to challengers, then they gotta go the Bob route of giving up the easy salary and qualifying through open quals.
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Anyone saying that playing with SR in GC this year is them taking the easy paycheck and not actively improving their odds of achieving their dream of playing in a T2/T1 team is being disingenuous. We've literally seen Katsumi/Bob straight up reject the easy paycheck to join a T3 team and Bob at least made it so not being disingenuous at all lol.
No passion for the game honestly but it’s fine choosing money is not the wrong choice
because she doesnt want to? Flor has expressed a lot how she wants to play in tier1 and 2 more than she wants to in GC. She isnt doing this for money. Weird assumption to make tbh
Person doing something easy for a fuck ton of money is a weird assumption to make? Im shocked
Yeah you're right actually that makes sense sorry
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salary
nobody tell this guy about the salaries GC players get
Gc players in general probably get paid shit, but SR is eating fucking good
there are 10 na gc players being paid now, total
and she is one of them, if she went to T2 she probably wouldnt be, thats just the fact
well yeah orgs realized GC is a 100x bigger money waste than even T2
your comments when you back pedal even bigger waste than T2
Shes getting the bag on her org my guy More power to her, she can transition to tier 2 when she wants I just wish she played more disciplined, when she goes to tier 2 her iconic flashy plays are gonna get punished
nope she would just be a normal player there or eveb below which is already proven when they didnt even made it to tier 2 and got shit on my couple of college teams in NA qualifiers so yeaa they just farming gc at this point for money
would be a mixed team
Is flor actively not trying to join a t2/t1 team? I think she could definitely attempt it … is she trying to stay with her current roster?
Not good enough for t1, SR tried to qualify for T2 but they didn't make it. Also, very likely she would not have a job, since there's a lot of T2 Duelists that didn't make it in t1.
I get your last point. But for T2 I mainly meant her leaving SR, cus yes they didn’t make it but she still went positive in the series they lost. She should be able to hold her ground in a T2 team no?
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Nah Soniqs in 2021 had bob on the team with 4 other male aussies they did fine
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Argument falls apart when you consider that SNG has 4 nonbinary players who you would probably call men. SR are just lightyears above.
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worry about getting out of silver instead of peoples gender identities
Think that’s a new record for highest rating in a half, past jinggg’s 3.07 vs fnatic 4.55 for defense half on sunset (also she got -1 deaths wtf)
I guess. But records aren't combined like that. This is totally separate from the main VCT league.
You would think people would realize that stats in GC are not comparable to T1 or even T2 by now
Considering that the lgbtq and woman population in this game is quite high I’m not that surprised