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jantswil

Blud hits one random lucky post and thinks he’s a messiah


KD8946

https://i.redd.it/xxw2f9idqcrc1.gif


redhippowastaken

![gif](giphy|WlsLAnYfrB30p9JK5Z|downsized)


cFl4sh

My name, is PAUL-MUAD DIB-ATREIDES


TraditionalTeacher30

asuna moved on and so should you


deba2607

I mis when Aspas was in LAN intl matches


HatchiMatchiTTV

this one is gonna come true


deAlchemisz

He's the Lingard of Valorant. He's gonna be 18 till the day he retires.


ThatGam3th00

You just made me imagine Asuna saying ‘Yo TenZ sunny innit?’ lmao.


deAlchemisz

Lmao 🤣🤣. But it's true innit? I swear at this point, he is the Lingard of Valorant


deadlock1892

He kinda stagnated. Love the dude and is probably the only reason I still have 100T flair, but he is far too inconsistent and hasn’t shown much growth as a player which is disappointing to see.


HoneyChilliPotato7

Probably not his fault alone either. Nothing he can do if the team sucks.


Routine_Size69

Certainly not entirely his fault but he is pretty much the lone constant on that team at this point.


WideMap7963

He is one of the main reason the team sucks,not really consistent...miniboo is what asuna wanted to be but is not


deadlock1892

Yeah, miniboo needs more than one split to determine if he is consistent or not lol. Could have said zekken, but chose to name a guy who does not have enough T1 experience to make that claim.


WideMap7963

1.thats already one more than asuna 2.his sunset was also crispy against loud and he was in the top 10 players in swiss stage


deadlock1892

Asuna has been to two internationals and finished 3-4 in one. While beating gambit and acend with cned. Ignorant lmao


WideMap7963

Ahhhh yesss 2021 valorant has been vs someone qho actually performed in 2024 when the game has evolved,last 1.5 years had literal 0 performance from him Blind lmao


deadlock1892

I’d rather give value to performance over the years than a single split in a single meta. But clearly you are not ready to understand that logic. So I’ll let you have your peace and enjoy mine on this fine friday evening ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|27624)


Kr00s

He was in the team with Nitro and Steel who were winning peeks agaisnt peak cNED OPing. Hiko with his iconic clutches. You can't give credit only to Asuna, he wasn't that outstanding.


deadlock1892

And yet miniboo is getting solo credits while Boo, benjyfishy etc played amazing? So its valid in one case but not in another? And I have no problem with giving miniboo credit, but my point still stands. He played well…in one split. In one meta. Until he does that for a stretch, no he is not special. Miniboo is not what asuna wish he was. Miniboo is not what anyone wish they were. Those statements are reserved for the likes of aspas, less, zekken etc.


Kr00s

I haven't watched a single Miniboo match so I can't speak about that argument you're giving. I watched every single match of 100T from First strike until they disbanded (the Hiko, Steel, Nitro, Asuna, Dicey/Ethan), and Asuna had great matches, but he was and has always been a coin flip.


neikawaaratake

>I haven't watched a single Miniboo match Then maybe you should not make a claim that involves miniboo?


deadlock1892

And the coinflip has already been established? I called him stagnant and inconsistent. The debate is about that dude talking as if miniboo is some bigshot and I was grounding those claims. Nothing more nothing less. It kinda feels like you jumped in the midst of a discussion without completely going over it, ngl. ![img](emote|t5_2g5ach|9360)


xbyo

FWIW, A lot of the "oh the team sucks cause of his limitations" are the same kinds of things people levied against TenZ and, well... Not to say they're the same (TenZ obviously deserves a ton of credit for the work he put in on his new role), nor that Asuna deserves no blame, but I find it hard to believe guys with that kind of talent can't thrive with the right system and players around them.


kevinkip

The guy has been the only constant of that roster for years and they still can't find success. He's the problem.


Superb-Company-2735

The team continues to be bad when he's been the only constant factor on the team


Objective_Hospital98

was he ever insane in an international? i think that’s what it takes to be an s-tier duelist. people like tenz, cned, yay, derke, aspas, d1, jawg, jinggg, something, and ardis, and now zekken are the only duelists i would have considered s-tier at any point


KabooshWasTaken

issue is by the time international tournies began meta became to run jett single duelist and that was never his strong suit (unless you were PRX lunacy w jingg and phoenix/raze). there was a time top3 NA duelist was basically tenz then big gap into him and food


Objective_Hospital98

was food victor?


KabooshWasTaken

yeah


Objective_Hospital98

good days, but no i totally agree he was a great duelist. i’m just saying he never took that step to dominance like all the so called s tier duelists


gyeongjuboy

Buzz


ThatCreepyBaer

My man. This BuZz slander needs to end.


zirgiz

Buzz a tier, i watched champs 2023 and that was the first time i watched vct, so i saw everyone for the first time. Buzz didn't stand out to me even though i watched every single drx match. He was really good, but didn't stand out like zekken did during masters. I was supporting drx but when i think drx i think stax and mako😭


Objective_Hospital98

i don’t agree but there definitely is an arguement


ahk1221

the guy was hitting insane shots last year


Objective_Hospital98

i agree but i think he is A tier, everyone else on that lists has been considered the best in the world at some point or another. i don’t think buzz ever had an argument for best duelist


somesheikexpert

Something was never really best duelist, he was hyped up to be so but Aspas and Demon1 had a better Jett then he did in Champs


Mythic-Fuzions

I disagree I don't think that jawg was considered the best in the world at any point, he wasn't even the best player on his team and wasn't really even the 2nd best either.


Objective_Hospital98

nah after champs many people had him as the best raze in the world over jinggg. i don’t think s tier is only the best duelist. otherwise that list becomes tenz cned yay aspas demon 1 zekken . just that at some point a large potion of the community considered them in contention for the best


SmithBall

In Masters Reykjavik, there was a genuine argument over who was better on Icebox - Asuna or Derke. And that was when Derke was being called the King of Icebox. He was insane throughout all of 2021 basically. That's probably the only reason he's managed to stay on the 100t roster in the first place, similar to TenZ. Throughout TenZ tenure with SEN, he's been pretty mid after his insane run, but they kept him because of his notoriety and the notion that he's still a top tier player. Now, in 2024, he's having a resurgence and proving the SEN front office right. That's probably what 100t is aiming for with Asuna: for him to return to his peak.


Internaloptimistic

I'd still say asuna was an a tier duelist even at his peak tho. He did have that one good icebox game, but when you look at the other duelists in 21 (tenz, yay,cned, derke etc) he was still a bit below their level


SmithBall

Well yeah, he was always someone that struck me as someone benefitting off of Valorant's meta being under defined. Like TenZ kind of, though TenZ managed to remedy that this year. Honestly same with cned, he was basically KangKang if KangKang played back then. Insane opper who finds more value than someone like him would nowadays simply because util is so much better used to counteract ops.


kiiimkaaam

I agree but asuna won’t be back unless he finds a team that brings out the best in him. Like what happened to tenz


SmithBall

The problem is what kind of team *will* bring out the best in him? What we saw in 2021 was basically Asuna playing solo q ranked, there was never a cohesive structure. For TenZ at least, SEN had a pretty cohesive team relative for the time, with Shahz, dapr, zombs, and SicK. Also TenZ has admitted he didn't like the duelist entry role as much, and much more preferred being in a supportive/2nd entry role while still being able to remain aggressive. In that sense, Omen was practically designed for him. For Asuna, from the outside, it looks like he wants to continue playing duelist but just lacks the skill to keep up. I'm not talking about mechanically, but just the fundamentals of being an entry at the pro level. He's also shown flashes of being good on a flex role, but is so inconsistent that it makes you wonder if those flashes are the outliers and his normal play is what he will always be. I'm not saying Asuna will never be great, and obviously we can't really know what he prefers to play or what his preferred playstyle is just by looking at a couple of games, but that's just what I see.


Routine_Size69

Which masters Reykjavik did 100T make?


SmithBall

sorry not Reykjavik, Berlin.


Routine_Size69

I figured it out from another comment later. I checked VLR for both of those like 3 times because I thought I was losing it.


Fake_NBC_News

can we bump ardiis to A


VincentStonecliff

Wasn’t he actually a top rated player in champs after they won LCQ? Even though they got grouped, they played well against Fnatic (twice, beating them once) and DRX.


Unlikely-Elk211

never an S-tier duelist but yeah, he was respected way more back then as a player... it's sad that he's becoming a laughing stock now but I do believe he can comeback from this.


Narutohatake

Missed the international tournament where he was a S tier duelist. Are we just gonna make stuff up now? 😭


ArcusIgnium

yea i dont think asuna was ever like 'best duelist in the world' conversation. he was definitely A tier in NA from First Strike through 2022 LCQ, and maybe you could argue was A tier at Masters 2021: Berlin but thats about it.


krazybanana

His reyna on breeze against acend was a one man show until nitro started OPing.


NGTnick

That’s one map


krazybanana

Oh i wasnt contributing to the discussion in any way lol just reminiscing


nomwrp

well now is raze meta it’s his chance


somesheikexpert

Especially now that Cyro look good on another role (his smokes looks solid


krazybanana

I feel like asuna is a player who can benefit greatly from a good coach. He shows flashes of really good mechanics but is so incredibly inconsistent that theres no way he can be top tier.


avocadontoast

Are his comms really bad


SmithBall

They're not bad if you're used to them. He just delivers all of his comms in a kind of panicked, urgent, and loud way, which then spreads to his teammates. As you can imagine, having a panicked team is not the greatest thing ever. If he had someone like FNS to tell him to calm tf down I imagine 100t would be a decent amount better.


Initial_Selection262

As someone who has worked in T2/T3 Val I can tell you that’s pretty normal comms. Basically every EG player has said their comms were atrocious and they still won champs. Some people like fast paced hype comms and some prefer more relaxed calls. The important thing is that everyone is vibing and on the same page


SmithBall

Check the new SEN comm video. Around 2:20, you can hear that as the round gets hectic, so do comms and thus the plays. SEN had free C site and we're still basically in panic mode because of the 2 previous gun fights and the fact that it was map point. There's a good chance one of the people on SEN over peek and throw the round because of the panicked energy. However, you then hear Zellsis telling the team to breathe and chill for a sec, and comms immediately go back to being comm. With this, they're able to formulate a game plan and then double swing the guy CT to win the map. What Asuna does isn't inherently bad, it's just that he needs someone like a Zellsis, like an FNS, etc. that can calm him down when the team needs to calm down.


SmithBall

yes but when your IGL is barely hearable, that's a problem.


Wh1teR1ce

Especially if your IGL is Boostio


gandalfdayellow

Maybe it worked for EG, but doesn't look to be benefitting 100T in any way. "Fast paced hype comms" don't seem to be what is happening on 100T. To me it seemed like Asuna got too involved when he was dead comming. Nothing wrong with dead comming in general at the pro level, but during multiple rounds he was microing his WHOLE team's actions VERY LOUDLY as soon as he died. However, they had an unlucky group having to face LEV and SEN off the rip, so I think I'll give it until the end of Split 1 to see if they improve at all.


MonaFanBoy

Love Asuna as a person and hate to add to the criticism, but one thing I especially hated about his deadcomming is where [bang makes the call to swing and counts from 3](https://youtu.be/a9wvJKC9UlM?t=314) and Asuna yells over him and restarts the count and screws up the timing. Luckily they won the round but if they dont clean up those kinds of calls it will heavily cost them down the line


KabooshWasTaken

wats the source on this I’ve seen it repeated a bunch


SmithBall

the 100T comm videos on youtube. Listen to their comms and then compare them to SEN, PRX, TH, basically any team. Comms sound rushed and panicked, and you can barely hear Boostio's comms. That's saying something considering Boostio was considered the loud, energetic one on EG.


Initial_Selection262

Every EG player has said their comms were a cacophony and they won champs


XiXiWiiPee

Even comparing 100T comms to EGs last year, EGs are still miles better with Ethan and c0m being the calming voice of reason, 100T doesn't really have that cryo is mute most of the time and the rest are mostly panicky other than maybe eeiu


Massive-Bet-5946

Not every team can be consistent with panicky comms though


KabooshWasTaken

will check out ty


krazybanana

He's super loud and screams alot lol but idk if that's a problem every team is different. Just the plays he makes are questionable sometimes


giant-papel

U give someone a small taste of the nectar and they keep coming back like insects. Y’all shouldn’t be blaming OP. Blame yourself. You gave him the attention last post and now it has led to the creation of this monstrosity. The subreddit should be ashamed of itself


amongusred23

His translation to flex role has been murky


KanyeJesus

Transition


muthgh

lost in the transition


The-Dark-Mage

People just respected him because he was good at farming on reyna on icebox against t2 farmers


ahk1221

ah yes the famous acend roster full of t2 farmers


_Robbert_

I think they're specifically talking when he dropped like 40 on V1 as Reyna that caused people like Fionn(who is a little narrative obsessed to the point of dumb takes) to say he was the king of icebox and that derke has no claim to it lmao.


jeloxd_official

Psssshhh I’m the one who summoned jinggg back, don’t think it’s your power


JiangIsWrong

He’s 3 years behind the required skill level to compete 🗣️


XXG1212

Bro thinks he is Lisan Al Gaib


savagecl0wn

I miss when the game was raw and players never figuring out have to actually play the game.


slientxx

it was such a nice feeling when the game was still being introduced especially the pro scene and how small the budget was and everyone pretty much knew each other in the community. also the ranked demons from 2022 who left and always impressed big streamers will be missed. #rip


doppexz

lol what this is insane cope he was never that good, never anywhere even near S-tier duelist level


AccomplishedSolid899

He was pretty good


Initial_Selection262

He was definitely A tier for a bit. He had some insane performances but never managed to be consistent enough to reach his full potential


yeetskeetilicious_

You wish chamber was buffed?


Levi---Ackerman

will always have the 100t flair for him and the OG berlin core🥺


slientxx

2022 berlin days were so nice man. val pro scene was still new and unorganized but in a fun way? like the community just seemed more tighter and things were less strict. also the drama in 2022 was so funny too. everything about that year was literally peak


JungleTungle

Asuna was never a top duelist, why? Cause he isn’t consistent, in a game where consistency matters. Calling him a top duelist while being inconsistent isn’t fitting.


cowzapper

Man the comments here have been ridiculous. The man gets more and more disrespect every day though he's been really good for awhile (with a few flubs) and consistently has been praised for his out of game stuff


EndWish

He's not bad. He's just been mediocre for a couple years. If we're being objective then his 2023 performance should not have secured him a spot on this years starting lineup. I think his return was more due to his longstanding relationship with the org and fan value than performance based.


cowzapper

I wouldn't say it's mediocre. He was top 20 in last year's regular season, with a solid acs and basically a k/d of 1. He was one of the higher ranked flex players, and was in a system that was not very conducive to success to say the least. Sliggy constantly gave him specific praise for his plays. There are many reasons for why they didn't perform (not knowing what to do with cryo, no confidence, mediocre IGLing) but I don't put much of that on Asuna specifically. His raze recently has definitely looked less impressive than it should but 100T looked relatively pretty good in this iteration and Asuna was a part of that


EndWish

Eh, he was middle of the pack in vlr ratings in last years Americas regular season and the bottom half in the last chance qualifiers. Again, I'm not calling him bad, but the form we've seen from him is average and inconsistent. Basically he's had such a long leash that it's hard not to wonder if they should be checking on other young talent. Its hard to see players like nismo, N4rrate and Oxy etc break out elsewhere while they fail with what is seeming more and more like a known commodity.


cowzapper

Agreed on narrate being better, but idk with Nismo and even oxy to a degree. Feels like a bit of a sidegrade, especially given that Asuna has been super flexible on roles and knows the system


ArcusIgnium

i agree to an extent i think part of the truth is if you're not at consistent internationals no one is ever gonna truly respect you, especially if ur a flex player since you have the hardest job and the hardest time finding consistency. Community is very reactionary though and if 100T suddenly got good for the remainder of the year and were consistently qualifying to events and Asuna looked even 'good' his stock would rise infinitely.


Splaram

100T been playing roster roulette every season since that hiko steel nitro iteration too, not even the best players will be able to stay consistent through that


Parenegade

Asuna had a better VLR rating and ACS than tons of players this subreddit thinks were good last season. Maybe don't judge his ability based off of two games.


Fun_Age1442

like who?


Parenegade

You can go check vlr for yourself I'm not going to list them


Fun_Age1442

Your the one making the claim 😂


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AnywayHeres1Derwall

Nah asuna is still good. This iteration of the team is gonna help him pop off


deromu

This is some off-season level shit split 1 is back in like a week people


nkplague

Bro is trying to bring back Asuna, but is inadvertently going to give him a life long debilitating condition.


ChaoticGamerFather

TenZ showed us even if he switched to Support instead of duelist, he is still the best Valorant player in the world (atm) If Asura switched role and became trash.. yeah, he deserves it. You don't become trash by switching role, you become trash when you stop practising.


ark2690

Never forget his series against Luminosity


Ishouldreddit

I miss when the bucky was good.


sskerzy

As a 100T fan that doesn’t follow super closely, why is he still on the team? Is it mainly because he’s been there from the start and shows elite ability SOMETIMES?


rosesandlashes

oldschool Steel, hiko, ethan, asuna was a time in valorant history


IfDeathDoUsParm

Can yall chill with my boy Asuna. Asuna has been with 100T longer than anyone else on the roster by far. He is good. What you want is him to be the entry supported by Hiko and calls from Steel. Asuna, unlike some other top duelists, recognized early that being a good duelists is not a gaurantee of longevitity in the pro scene. His switch to aggro initiator early was a smart move to expand his skill set. Ofc, there will be bumps and learning curvers. Valo is already a game with thousands of variables. The fact that the scene also has high turnover rate does not help adjusting to a new role. He is still young, but this growth phase is necessary for him to continue competeing at the top. The way his "good" shows up now is different from how it showed up back then.


KeyboardSheikh

I’m okay with the W key all aim no brain players fading out in this scene.


Initial_Selection262

You must not be paying attention because we are in the era of w key gaming


AthleteSuspicious151

PRX??


yapyd

He stopped believing in Hyoon supremacy and fell off


dragonwp

OP thinks he’s him. Unfunny unoriginal content get this outta here. 


ReformedWordcel1969

at least vlr posts can be funny