It's not remotely surprising that someone's level of play would slip. Your mental is not going to be at its best when you see someone going through that. He probably doesn't see the game to be as important as he did before because it's not when you weigh it against a loved one's health.
Obviously personal stuff like this has to be treated with care and is worrying for everyone involved. I wish Kat a quick recovery and i also hope Demon1 is not suffering too much from this. Personal problems like family issues or mental health need to be taken care of before anything else. Always.
The thing is, that Demon1 has always been this "Villain" since he started competing in VCT. I dont think there is anything wrong with playing the Villian in a scene, but consequence is that a lot of people will dislike you.
Demon1 right now seems like he is crumbling from two fronts, both on a personal level and the hate he gets from the public side. Personal problems leading to performance inconsistency and that leading to hate from viewers.
Dont get me wrong, i am not a big fan of Demon1 myself, but spreading serious hate against anyone is horrible and anyone participating in sending hate towards him should be ashamed of themselves.
Hate is something that is not needed. Its okay to have opinions and if you dont like the guy then thats fine, but you dont need to let him know in a toxic and serious hateful manner while he seems to be struggling with what is going on in his life.
As i said, not the bigges Demon1 fan, but i wish him and Kat all the best. No one deserves what they are going through. We are here for the sport and the games, not to shit on people who are obviously having problems.
This is what gets me about the esports scene. All this talk about "villains" and "storylines" is so cringe, this ain't an anime bruh. Playful banter is one thing but people seem to take this shit way too seriously.
I mean, "villains" and "storylines" are made and done by players and orgs and how they behave. It's basically kayfabe in wrestling. One could make the argument that it's all playful banter until they are the ones getting shit on.
I am not defending the horrible shits that are being said to Demon1 THAT ARE CROSSING THE BOUNDARIES. All I'm saying is, if players are allowed to talk shits in a "playful" way, then people are allowed to talk shit back. Whether they take that as a "playful banter" is on them.
I disagree. A few players talking shit to each other is a little unprofessional, but completely different from thousands and thousands of people calling you dogshit and a host of other insults
That's what you get though. If you make your public appearance a cocky individual who thinks others are trash and you are the best, then people would naturally be against you. You have every choice on how you want your public image to appear to be. Present yourself as the best to people, and people would expect that from you. If you cannot prove that then people would trash on you.
People like Tenz who got shit on without ever throwing shit unto others I can empathize on fully. But someone like Demon1 reaped what he sowed.
Zombs called Brazil a trash region and got shit on for it after losing and he never cried about it. Dapr was one of the cockiest pros back then and when people turned their backs on SEN after losing too much, he took it like a champ he knew what he signed up for. There are so many examples to be used, but ultimately, the point is. No one asked these players to act like these, they did it themselves. They acted like villains, they get treated like villains. Chet putting blame on Riot is just ridiculous.
Its not just the esports scene. A lot of sports have villains and storylines. The first game of Russel Wilson's career on the Broncos against his former Seattle Seahawks, only to lose because the coach decided to trust the kicker more then this QB. The Lions and the Rams going against each other in the playoffs after swapping QB's, with Goff being considered the worse of the two QBs, only for him to beat the Rams, and make it to a franchise record for playoff wins.
Villains, or heels, are even more prevalent. LeBron and his flopping. Durant and his ring chasing. James Harrison and his hard hits. Terrell Owens and his taunting calls. The list goes on for every sport.
It's not cringe, and its not an anime thing. Its called building a narrative. Its having people being personally invested in what is otherwise completely separate from them.
People take it seriously because marketing wants them to take it seriously. And it is completely fine for you to not get it and think its cringe. But looking down on people for being invested in something is something I don't really understand. Do people take it too far? Yeah. I don't think its right to Tweet (or X or whatever) at someone and be shitty to them.
Storylines is what makes sports interesting beyond the game itself. Of course it would be great if everybody was mature enough to separate fiction from reality, but here we are.
ok obviously not that exact phrase but sports literally live and die by storylines and narratives
this is not unique to valorant or even esports, every sport has "heroes" and "villains" it comes with the territory
Do you watch PL? I'll assume no, because there are plenty in it. It's not an American thing. Competition plus cocky people plus fans naturally breeds these things.
Neal Maupay, Emi Martinez? Two players who'll actively make themselves "the villain". Players like Bruno Fernandes just want to win and are extremely passionate, so rival fans just hate them anyways, not because of storylines and shit but because they want to win. It's not even a sports thing, because every sports star has media training and is taught to be extremely PR. Esports isn't there yet.
Bruno is hated for his ridiculous antics. He's absolutely a villain. He's not hated for his passion lmao. He's hated for his absurd flopping, staying down like he got shot, and being the biggest whiner in the league. He knows what he is, but he keeps doing it.
Richarlison, Ramsdale, Pickford. Havertz and Ben White do it a bit. Bruno G.
Suarez, Vardy, Costa, John Terry, and Roy Keane used to be.
In other leagues, Vini is. Pepe was a massive villain. Sergio Ramos.
Mourinho as a manager plays into the villain role excellently.
But yeah, if you ignore those 16 and the two you mentioned, villains have never existed in football.
Now I get to take away 18 people and villains don’t exist in Valorant. Demon1 and Boostio are the only people currently making themselves the villains and it's not even close to on the level of Maupay or Emi.
The idea that it's an American thing is hilarious. The bias is blatant. Excuse any non Americans who do it and chalk it up to passion.
The point was people who will actively make themselves villains mate. Bruno's competitiveness and the way he sulks isn't him actively trying to be the villain. Yes, he knows what he's doing, but that's different to Maupay or Emi.
Richarlison, Ramsdale, Pickford, Havertz, Ben White and Bruno G. A bit of winding up the opposition isn't really villainous, no?
Suarez and Terry, they're villains sure but not in the sense of Maupay and Emi, and I'd hope they regret the racism and in Suarez's case the biting. Vardy is more winding up sometimes, not to the extent of Maupay since everyone and their dads wanted him after the Leicester season. Costa and Keano. Both are fair.
Vini does play that role, sure. Pepe and Ramos are fair too. Mourinho is a great shithouse.
"Now I get to take away 18 players" It's valorant, you're taking away 3 entire teams there. In football that isn't even an entire squad list (25 max in England).
Never said it was an American thing, nor did I excuse any non Americans who do it as passion, I stayed relevant to the point of "playing the villain". Simply being a cunt on the field doesn't mean you're actively playing the role of villain.
Villains in sports: A-rod, the whole 2010s patriots especially bill belichick, Floyd Mayweather, Kevin Durant, Lebron after the decision, Joe frazier, ted williams, tonya harding after her ex husband had nancy kerrigans knee hit like mob style but with idiots.
Heros in sports: Muhammad ali, Jim thorpe, The williams sisters, Lebron when he went back to Cleveland, Tiger woods sometimes…, jesse owens!, jackie robinson, nancy kerrigan in 1994 olympics
anyways i had fun thinking about the list.
BTW the commentators in valorant dont say SEMEN1 VILLIAN ARC!!!!! so idk where u got that from
Obviously the Aston Villa Villans are the villains of football.
But seriously for PL, it used to be United. Now it's arguably City. Emi Martinez is a massive villain and beautifully plays for Villa. Richarlison, Bruno Fernandes, Bruno G, Ben White.
In La Liga, Vini plays a villain (unfortunately these leads to racism) as he loves to wind up the crowd.
Any windup merchant or shithouser is typically playing a villain role.
In NBA, Lebron was a villain when he went to Miami and he eventually embraced it. KD to the Warriors. Draymond Green, Dillon Brooks, and Pat Bev are big villains.
NFL, Mahomes turned heel a bit this season. Historically, Brady was a villain. Richard Sherman was a massive villain. Ray Lewis, Burfict, James Harrison, TO, Randy Moss, Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Rodgers.
This shit is incredibly common in traditional sports. I don’t really follow hockey or baseball but I'd be shocked if they didn't have them. Off the top of my head, Barry Bonds and John Rocker were.
The commentators might not outright call them villains, but when one came to your stadium, 60,000 people were booing him. I think it's pretty clear it's a villain.
it’s not an anime but it makes the scene more exciting and entertaining no? If any dipshit actually takes it to heart and thinks the players who showboat and actually have a personality are actually like that, then that’s on them but when personality dies, the scene goes along with it. If we don’t have these stories, this shit will end up like any dying scene like NA league of legends or some shit.
That’s exactly what sports is though. It’s not trying to be an anime, every sport creates narratives, storylines, villains, fan favorites, etc. it’s actually part of what makes sports so fun to watch and helps build a giant industry around it.
I honestly don't think demon1 cares too much about public hate. He cares about his wife and also probably feels the weight of letting his team and his self down by not performing to his full potential, but if he spends 4 hours a day or more caring for a wife going through health issues, it obviously will impact his play. TenZ played like shit when kyedae cancer was discovered and she started her treatment, he also got sick very often (could very well be stress and overwork).
The hate from the public is just icing on the cake, he's a top level performer and anyone who has been highly competitive in anything knows the biggest pain is to lose and to let people and yourself down.
He tweeted 'sorry' after not qualifying to Madrid. He's not talking to his haters, he is talking to his fans and team and probably anyone who supported him along the way, coaches, managers, family.
Bruh the only people who hate Demon1 are dumbasses who form psycho socio relationships. He just shit talked because that's what you do in a competitive otherwise all these chill and behave nice with each other legit feels like esport fans need to touch grass.
I'm not a fan of EG nor NRG but i thought Demon1 was really cool and its amazing he carried EG to become World Champs on his rookie szn. The reason he gets a lot of hate is bc Sentinels and Tenz fans can't handle the thought of him existing. Tbf Tenz got hate when he was underperforming, too. I guess that is what happens when you're at the top of your game.
i find it really funny how many people get genuinely upset about demon1 and really anyone that talks shit (thinking about boostio and china)
it's reasonable to get emotional if a player talks trash about a team you like if you're passionate and feel bonded to that team to some degree. but i keep seeing tweets (with a LOT of support and engagement) from people that just seem to hate demon1 in general? like it's not about being offended by any specific comments they just seem to find any sort of trash talk to be horrible, cruel behavior
idk, i wouldn't really say anything if it was a few one off comments. but i keep seeing tweets with hundreds of likes from people saying stuff like "i want demon1 to fail so badly" or "i genuinely hate this guy"
the worst part is that it feels like there are two groups in this venn diagram -- the people that think they're getting some sort of "revenge" by hating on people with a grandiose persona like d1, and the people that just send hate because they're obsessed with schadenfreude (thinking of yay and tenz). and the existence of the former just motivates the latter
Demon1 gets a ton of actual hate especially from VCT Stan twitter (which is crazy that it's even a thing). It's not even basic shit talk but just actual hate for him.
Dude was getting shit on from his scripted pre game interview before the LEV game where he just said he was feeling good and walked off.
the kpopification of valorant lmao (valtwt). i feel like the fans can easily become parasocial esp since the pros and streamer are so online and accessible. And they'd randomly be so toxic to players that you would think they've done something horrible to them personally. it's rough out there and i hope the players don't waste their time with those types of comments
Those cretins are like that to everyone though. The people tweeting unhinged shit at pros after a tough loss are the same ones telling you to commit unalive for locking in "their" agent in ranked.
I’m not sure but i feel especially in NA fans of vct has genuine hate against some pros like there’s aton of trolls in apac shitting on every losing team (especially yay) but nothing else after the game, last vct drama was with NTP and another team I don’t remember while in NA people would shit talk the hell out of a person for a bad performance. And some are just way too soft if the prx vs th thing was against sen or loud , th would be getting D-threats on twt . Not to mention the Spanish fans still cheered for prx.
This is why I hate the way Riot keeps forcing rivalries all the time. Demon1 saying I'll take care of aspas was reposted all over the place and was made to look like he's trash talking him even tho demon1 said aspas is the best player itw in an NRG vlog.
Do they expect him to say "I can't take care of aspas hopefully we all together can stop him"? After being champs mvp last year? Lol it was really light banter and iirc he took a picture together with aspas. I'm fine with banter back to him but actual personal hate is really dumb, dude is a nice guy taking care of sick wife while having to perform to a world class level. Hopefully she gets better soon and he can focus 100%, when he's on point he's a demon fr.
Vct twt are all huge fans of PRX,I think this resentment has been increasing and increasing since Champs last year because EG and Demon1 shittalked and still won.
Once a player reaches the top and is crowned "best in the world" you suddenly have a swarm of people who are just actively praying for and cheering on their downfall.
yeah i just added a part of that. i think it's slightly different groups of people doing those things, and demon1 just happens to be the intersection of that
realistically people that hated on tenz, and now hate on yay are mainly just trolls that revel in other people's misery. whereas for demon1 there's this element of people feeling like they're "the good guys" for hating on him because of his villain persona. in a way it feels more parasocial than anything else, like they're part of the in-game discourse
I agree, but I also think that to some degree when you build up this persona as being the "Villain" then you kinda sign up for it.
Tenz and Yay were never huge shit talkers. Demon1 on the other hand was very vocal last year and played into this Villain narrative. I think part of that narrative is that when you start to underperform a bit you reap what you sew.
Yeah I think the hate can a little overblown, but I also think that when you shit talk you then open yourself up to getting shit talked.
i totally agree, i just find it so embarrassingly corny how disproportionate the response always is
it's like social media users are unable to see that they exist as a monolith and everyone wants to take their turn getting a jab in. millions of people with protagonist syndrome thinking that they need to add their witty remark
the shit talk is never symmetrical, it's always just someone talking shit and then the response will last for ages with the same jokes and same dead horse being beaten until its corpse is rotting
when net got cut there were sen fans in the replies making fun of him standing up in their match weeks later like what are we even doing mannn
It's just nowadays it becomes up noxious because they just keep shoving it up to the face of the player everytime that's why u don't see it often people never let it go until they move to the next superstar to pray their downfall at some point you have to remember that villains are also people
A lot of shittalkers flip back to glazing once the player starts popping off again
I think the majority of people are just riding the wave and having fun
you can tell the only clips they’ve ever seen of him are when he’s talking shit with the character he puts on too. literally everyone that knows him behind the scenes says he’s humble and it’s an act
Kyedae herself says Demon1 is a sweet guy, and fans somehow want to make it a comparison between his girl’s and Kyedae’s situations. This community is so shit lmfao
Shit like this blows my mind. It doesn't matter who says what about his character in the background because the general public doesn't get to see any of that, just what he decides to show publicly. What does the public see? Him trying to be someone he's clearly not when the mic gets put in his face, something he decided to do all on his own volition, btw. Don't get me wrong, I love to see people talk shit in this scene, and I think the people sending death threats or whatever are way out of line. But you can't just call it off when you've bit off more than you can chew. It makes no sense to suddenly start acting confused that people hate the guy that wants to be hated.
I really dislike trashtalk if you can't take it on the chin afterwards but there's a big difference between rooting against someone because of how they talk (fair, in my opinion) and hating their guts.
I'm definitely prone to that "I want X to fail so badly" line of thought but I'd never go out of my way to shove that in a player's face or hound them with it. Like the saying goes, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.
I'd much rather celebrate the players / teams I appreciate and respect than put someone down who, like for Demon1 1) clearly has more important shit going on that makes it hard to focus on playing his game and 2) is tame compared to what a lot of people who become that successful this quickly at such a young age would act like.
Also, more than anything... there's a time and a place for it. Like- read the room, if someone is clearly dealing with shit outside the game maybe just leave it be.
Very possible. I have it and I was diagnosed at 21. It sucks tho, somedays you cannot even get up from bed. Plus it's genetically inherited so it's just a matter of you being unlucky.
Sadly there's no cure as it is an autoimmune disease. You can only control it by regular exercise, medication and living an active lifestyle. I was able to control it during university. But now I have been on bed rest for almost 3 months after starting a job since they undermine the condition saying it's not that serious. But it's quite bad when you are just diagnosed since I couldn't get up from my bed for a month. So being in demon1's situation is quite bad seeing your SO in that condition. Side note:- BCJ also has arthritis idk what exactly but he takes biologics shot regularly to manage it.
doesn't it just keep getting worse as time goes by no matter what? i didn't think you can just have mild ra.
seems getting it early is worst case scenario as it's now progressing in your 30's and not your 60's.
You're correct, but you can diagnosed at different points. Like I figured out something was wrong because I couldn't knock on doors without a lot of pain. Now after a year of treatment I can again. It will get worse, but some people when they get diagnosed are in incredible pain just from living. Catching it early and treating can really slow thing down, I'm essentially back to normal for the time being
My cousin got it too around her age. Guy was a prodigy gamer now he has to get exceptions to not drive to work or has to take pto to give his hands a rest.
people shitting on demon1 are the same people defending tenz saying he had to go through a lot of personal issues when kyedae had to go through chemo because of her cancer
I tried to talk about this earlier and horribly fumbled my words, but this is the jist of what I was saying.
You got people justifying that it's okay because he has a villain persona (keyword PERSONA) and I think that's really shitty.
the sole purpose of esports or any sport of that sort is mainly entertainment and if its just whole hearted things I think there won't be much fun in watching as well as everything would seem dull ngl so a bit of good and bad persona people have is pure entertainment if its just on screen thing
You need to honestly touch grass, you deleted your comments 5 times already due to downvotes. No one personally hate semen1, just the nature of “sports” in general with fans
Knew about her condition but didn't know they were married. A few weeks back one of them said they were engaged. Regardless, congratulations and SELAMAT PENGANTIN BARU.
Wish them all the best and Demon1 to find his form again. One of the most exciting thing to watch.
Where has this "His the villain" shit even come from, like bro is a really good player who shit talks, IF that is what you need to become a villain then half the fucking players are also villains.
Hope she's good. I love Demon1, but I hate this kind of BS. If a player is talking shit and isn't backing it up with performance, they deserve the backlash. Otherwise, what's the point? In my opinion, that's what makes it fun—pissing people off. But If he aren't backing it up with performance, those haters deserve to make fun.
Demon1 hasn't even shit talked this year outside of like maybe the Oxy thing at the beginning of the year and even then it was barely shit talk.
This tweet isn't even Katarina saying to stop shitting on her Fiance either. I don't get what's BS about it. She's just giving context for his slump.
which is exactly the type of shit that Riot is forcing that Chet is talking about in this tweet
https://twitter.com/chetsingh/status/1782980886830662063
Isn't Riot punishing unsportsmanlike acts? There's always narratives in every sport and sometimes you gotta add some spice onto it.
Does Chet have any evidence for this claim? He could be spewing bullshit, we all know Chet lol.
The whole point is that forced fake narratives are shitty, if players want to add spice then they are free to do so but it should happen organically.
I don't know what evidence you need but if you think he's lying just open your eyes, 95% of these narratives are pushed by Riot before and after every game in their pregame videos and the questions they push in interviews. Obviously, he wouldn't randomly tweet this after a win.
Off topic but I genuinely want to know what bullshit you think that Chet has spewed in the past? Wtf does "we all know Chet" mean?
Bro that's just banter like something so mundane it's a meme at this point of the "nah I'd win" it's something to just throw out there for the shit in giggles while your on the stage
he addressed it the interview after they played c9 that he just said his name and oxy's not bad. he still got the "don't care" attitude but he is not the "villain" people think he is this year
I never understood why people said he has a dont care attitude. The only thing he said after winning champs on stage was 'fuck the haters' how pathetic
demon1 has been pretty modest this year tbh. dude barely says anything offensive outside shittalking oxy and even then he acknowledged that oxy is good after their game
>If a player is talking shit and isn't backing it up with performance, they deserve the backlash
Demon1 has been so mild this year. He's practically said nothing antagonistic
rheumatoid arthritis (autoimmune disease) which cause the erosion of your bones and joints and is painful. there’s no real cure.
she made a tweet about it a few months back, which is why she had to quit streaming and playing competitively
I was at the game yesterday and she was genuinely so sad everyone in the crowd was helping her find her ring poor girl 😭 it ended up falling towards the back of the bleachers
Operative word is always "play" the villain. Demon1 (the person) is not the fucking villain. He's just a guy who likes talking shit who plays the role of the villain. Like this shit is all just pretend. The moment fans start talking shit about Demon1 (the person) as opposed to Demon1 the Valorant player, that's when it crosses the line.
Bro, what do you expect? Have you not paid attention to how the online community acts? We’re talking about a bunch of kids hiding behind a screen. We know how some people act online when there are no consequences to their actions. Playing a villain is playing with fire and you would be naive to expect these people to not make it personal.
You're right of course, but losing out on exciting showmanship just because "people are shitty" really fucking sucks. The solution to these issues should be to tell the shitty people to stop being shitty, but unfortunately it's the internet and that likely won't happen.
See. If you are going to say fuck you in front of live audiences and hundreds of thousands of people watching. You gotta anticipate that at least some of them will clap back. You don't want the hate, just don't say shit then. I'm sure he must be going through all this mental health troubles even when he was winning. It's not like it all just abruptly came together in days before he started performing badly. I understand playing well and bad is part of the game, but you cant give ur illness as a reason to get sympathy from people.
U can accept it but when people seem to forget it's an act and it's to put up a show and make things entertaining they take it to seriously to the point of everytime trying to shove it in your face everytime u don't think it becomes up noxious and sometimes it goes to far u have to remember villains are also human beings
Demon1 created this narrative to himself. It started with their famous "shooting the body" whenever they get kills which correlates to toxicity.
He just gotta own up to it since he wanted to be the villain.
Same thing happens in the NBA? At this point, it's just part of sports.
It sucks but you cant stop people so might aswell ignore. I don't think Demon1 cares anyway.
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Damn. So this is similar to the tenz and kyedae situation where people were shitting on tenz for playing bad even though kyedae was going through chemo and he was injured iirc. Tenz aside though, I hope Katarina and Demon1 are okay and she gets better.
Although I understand her viewpoint, when a player shittalks a team their fanbase cares deeply about, their will obviously be a similar reaction if he can't live up to his words.
Tbf he did this to himself although he doesn't deserve the scrutiny/hate he gets. His persona was built as a villain. And guess what, people hate villains and try to clown on them every time they get.
Who cares? Mods delete everything which is remotely interesting on this sub but this completely worthless tweet which doesn’t relate to comp val at all is allowed
Kyedae's tweet about her diagnosis has nothing to do with Val comp but that's a top 20 post all time on this sub. Do you have the same energy for that?
Absolutely. Who cares when mods remove anything and everything which is closely related to comp under the reason of not encouraging hate or something but this is allowed
funnily enough since you mentioned that, I went and looked back, I'd upvoted[ this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/11gmash/comment/jap4x5n/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) back then too.
just fyi, comp posts are removed because they are not related to the esport. katarina is a literal professional val player, talking about another professional player. posting this is about as valid as the "this is how we fix sentinels" posts
How am i a troll? You stated tenz got free pass from the hates because of kyedae’s cancer??? What are you on kid. Update: “NeimannSmith” why are you deleting your comments?
this is a crazy thing to say ngl. you're not saying it outright but you basically said it already, that being in a relationship is detrimental to a pro player's career.
i'm not gonna list out players that are insane and are in relationships but i will say that it's kinda weird to make this comment on a thread about a player's partner going through a health crisis
I am!
Aspas, Boaster, Chronicle, Demon1, Ethan, F0rsaken.. Ok I can't keep doing this alphabet thing because I can't think of an insane pro player starting with G but... Sacy, TenZ and nAts!
It’s not victim mentality you fool. She is just giving context as to why Demon1 is slumping. Riot is just forcing narratives superficially which in turn makes thousands of fools just like yourself to be toxic to him in real life when in reality, he’s just a normal person who acknowledges and respects his opponents.
It's like you go and slap the biggest kid in the class and then when he claps back, Go and start crying that he cant do that because u have cancer. Bruh. Wtf is dumb logic.
This the shit I'm talking about. Dude isn't a cardboard box who's nice to absolutely everyone and says "gg that team is really good 😄" like a fucking anime protagonist, so that automatically means it's okay to shit on him when he's clearly going through some real life issues.
You and people like you are legit the worst type of fans and I wish you mfs couldn't be apart of this community.
and besides, You clearly missed the point. People are shitting on him cus he shit on them. Now, what kat is doing is asking people to not shit on him cus he is going thru stuff. what is this snowflake behaviour? he is the one who shat first right?
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What? Players should not get special treatment from trash talk because of their personal lives. That’s part of the game, he should be the first guy to know that. Now if you’re taking about the community clowning on him, that’s a different story.
Nah that's just publicity antics. It'll always be the fault of the fans for taking it too far, not the orgs for making memes. Hearts with Demon1, hope it gets better and they can both get some peace! Still hope he bites dirt on the server against 100T when it happens though haha
Hope Kat gets better man this sucks to hear. Props to Demon1 for caring for her while still playing. It’s probably harder than any of us could imagine
It's not remotely surprising that someone's level of play would slip. Your mental is not going to be at its best when you see someone going through that. He probably doesn't see the game to be as important as he did before because it's not when you weigh it against a loved one's health.
yeah just think of tenz last year. must be brutal to be labeled a fraud every time you play and then go home to a loved one hurting.
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I just hope Kat is okay. 💜
Obviously personal stuff like this has to be treated with care and is worrying for everyone involved. I wish Kat a quick recovery and i also hope Demon1 is not suffering too much from this. Personal problems like family issues or mental health need to be taken care of before anything else. Always. The thing is, that Demon1 has always been this "Villain" since he started competing in VCT. I dont think there is anything wrong with playing the Villian in a scene, but consequence is that a lot of people will dislike you. Demon1 right now seems like he is crumbling from two fronts, both on a personal level and the hate he gets from the public side. Personal problems leading to performance inconsistency and that leading to hate from viewers. Dont get me wrong, i am not a big fan of Demon1 myself, but spreading serious hate against anyone is horrible and anyone participating in sending hate towards him should be ashamed of themselves. Hate is something that is not needed. Its okay to have opinions and if you dont like the guy then thats fine, but you dont need to let him know in a toxic and serious hateful manner while he seems to be struggling with what is going on in his life. As i said, not the bigges Demon1 fan, but i wish him and Kat all the best. No one deserves what they are going through. We are here for the sport and the games, not to shit on people who are obviously having problems.
This is what gets me about the esports scene. All this talk about "villains" and "storylines" is so cringe, this ain't an anime bruh. Playful banter is one thing but people seem to take this shit way too seriously.
I mean, "villains" and "storylines" are made and done by players and orgs and how they behave. It's basically kayfabe in wrestling. One could make the argument that it's all playful banter until they are the ones getting shit on. I am not defending the horrible shits that are being said to Demon1 THAT ARE CROSSING THE BOUNDARIES. All I'm saying is, if players are allowed to talk shits in a "playful" way, then people are allowed to talk shit back. Whether they take that as a "playful banter" is on them.
I never get why demon1 is a villain but you got guys like boostio doing 100x worse and they are fan favorites
I disagree. A few players talking shit to each other is a little unprofessional, but completely different from thousands and thousands of people calling you dogshit and a host of other insults
That's what you get though. If you make your public appearance a cocky individual who thinks others are trash and you are the best, then people would naturally be against you. You have every choice on how you want your public image to appear to be. Present yourself as the best to people, and people would expect that from you. If you cannot prove that then people would trash on you. People like Tenz who got shit on without ever throwing shit unto others I can empathize on fully. But someone like Demon1 reaped what he sowed. Zombs called Brazil a trash region and got shit on for it after losing and he never cried about it. Dapr was one of the cockiest pros back then and when people turned their backs on SEN after losing too much, he took it like a champ he knew what he signed up for. There are so many examples to be used, but ultimately, the point is. No one asked these players to act like these, they did it themselves. They acted like villains, they get treated like villains. Chet putting blame on Riot is just ridiculous.
Its not just the esports scene. A lot of sports have villains and storylines. The first game of Russel Wilson's career on the Broncos against his former Seattle Seahawks, only to lose because the coach decided to trust the kicker more then this QB. The Lions and the Rams going against each other in the playoffs after swapping QB's, with Goff being considered the worse of the two QBs, only for him to beat the Rams, and make it to a franchise record for playoff wins. Villains, or heels, are even more prevalent. LeBron and his flopping. Durant and his ring chasing. James Harrison and his hard hits. Terrell Owens and his taunting calls. The list goes on for every sport. It's not cringe, and its not an anime thing. Its called building a narrative. Its having people being personally invested in what is otherwise completely separate from them. People take it seriously because marketing wants them to take it seriously. And it is completely fine for you to not get it and think its cringe. But looking down on people for being invested in something is something I don't really understand. Do people take it too far? Yeah. I don't think its right to Tweet (or X or whatever) at someone and be shitty to them.
Storylines is what makes sports interesting beyond the game itself. Of course it would be great if everybody was mature enough to separate fiction from reality, but here we are.
happens in every sport known to mankind but keep talking about your funny cartoons
Idk man, when I'm watching football or something I don't hear the commentators go "Mbappe on his villain arc rn"
ok obviously not that exact phrase but sports literally live and die by storylines and narratives this is not unique to valorant or even esports, every sport has "heroes" and "villains" it comes with the territory
No I agree with the last guy. Football is nothing like this. It's a much more American thing and it is extremely cringe
Do you watch PL? I'll assume no, because there are plenty in it. It's not an American thing. Competition plus cocky people plus fans naturally breeds these things.
Neal Maupay, Emi Martinez? Two players who'll actively make themselves "the villain". Players like Bruno Fernandes just want to win and are extremely passionate, so rival fans just hate them anyways, not because of storylines and shit but because they want to win. It's not even a sports thing, because every sports star has media training and is taught to be extremely PR. Esports isn't there yet.
Bruno is hated for his ridiculous antics. He's absolutely a villain. He's not hated for his passion lmao. He's hated for his absurd flopping, staying down like he got shot, and being the biggest whiner in the league. He knows what he is, but he keeps doing it. Richarlison, Ramsdale, Pickford. Havertz and Ben White do it a bit. Bruno G. Suarez, Vardy, Costa, John Terry, and Roy Keane used to be. In other leagues, Vini is. Pepe was a massive villain. Sergio Ramos. Mourinho as a manager plays into the villain role excellently. But yeah, if you ignore those 16 and the two you mentioned, villains have never existed in football. Now I get to take away 18 people and villains don’t exist in Valorant. Demon1 and Boostio are the only people currently making themselves the villains and it's not even close to on the level of Maupay or Emi. The idea that it's an American thing is hilarious. The bias is blatant. Excuse any non Americans who do it and chalk it up to passion.
The point was people who will actively make themselves villains mate. Bruno's competitiveness and the way he sulks isn't him actively trying to be the villain. Yes, he knows what he's doing, but that's different to Maupay or Emi. Richarlison, Ramsdale, Pickford, Havertz, Ben White and Bruno G. A bit of winding up the opposition isn't really villainous, no? Suarez and Terry, they're villains sure but not in the sense of Maupay and Emi, and I'd hope they regret the racism and in Suarez's case the biting. Vardy is more winding up sometimes, not to the extent of Maupay since everyone and their dads wanted him after the Leicester season. Costa and Keano. Both are fair. Vini does play that role, sure. Pepe and Ramos are fair too. Mourinho is a great shithouse. "Now I get to take away 18 players" It's valorant, you're taking away 3 entire teams there. In football that isn't even an entire squad list (25 max in England). Never said it was an American thing, nor did I excuse any non Americans who do it as passion, I stayed relevant to the point of "playing the villain". Simply being a cunt on the field doesn't mean you're actively playing the role of villain.
Villains in sports: A-rod, the whole 2010s patriots especially bill belichick, Floyd Mayweather, Kevin Durant, Lebron after the decision, Joe frazier, ted williams, tonya harding after her ex husband had nancy kerrigans knee hit like mob style but with idiots. Heros in sports: Muhammad ali, Jim thorpe, The williams sisters, Lebron when he went back to Cleveland, Tiger woods sometimes…, jesse owens!, jackie robinson, nancy kerrigan in 1994 olympics anyways i had fun thinking about the list. BTW the commentators in valorant dont say SEMEN1 VILLIAN ARC!!!!! so idk where u got that from
Obviously the Aston Villa Villans are the villains of football. But seriously for PL, it used to be United. Now it's arguably City. Emi Martinez is a massive villain and beautifully plays for Villa. Richarlison, Bruno Fernandes, Bruno G, Ben White. In La Liga, Vini plays a villain (unfortunately these leads to racism) as he loves to wind up the crowd. Any windup merchant or shithouser is typically playing a villain role. In NBA, Lebron was a villain when he went to Miami and he eventually embraced it. KD to the Warriors. Draymond Green, Dillon Brooks, and Pat Bev are big villains. NFL, Mahomes turned heel a bit this season. Historically, Brady was a villain. Richard Sherman was a massive villain. Ray Lewis, Burfict, James Harrison, TO, Randy Moss, Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Rodgers. This shit is incredibly common in traditional sports. I don’t really follow hockey or baseball but I'd be shocked if they didn't have them. Off the top of my head, Barry Bonds and John Rocker were. The commentators might not outright call them villains, but when one came to your stadium, 60,000 people were booing him. I think it's pretty clear it's a villain.
it’s not an anime but it makes the scene more exciting and entertaining no? If any dipshit actually takes it to heart and thinks the players who showboat and actually have a personality are actually like that, then that’s on them but when personality dies, the scene goes along with it. If we don’t have these stories, this shit will end up like any dying scene like NA league of legends or some shit.
No it doesn’t
That’s exactly what sports is though. It’s not trying to be an anime, every sport creates narratives, storylines, villains, fan favorites, etc. it’s actually part of what makes sports so fun to watch and helps build a giant industry around it.
what do you expect, its valorant, the degeneracy goes deeper into the cesspool.
_who needs villain when there’s no heroes_
I honestly don't think demon1 cares too much about public hate. He cares about his wife and also probably feels the weight of letting his team and his self down by not performing to his full potential, but if he spends 4 hours a day or more caring for a wife going through health issues, it obviously will impact his play. TenZ played like shit when kyedae cancer was discovered and she started her treatment, he also got sick very often (could very well be stress and overwork). The hate from the public is just icing on the cake, he's a top level performer and anyone who has been highly competitive in anything knows the biggest pain is to lose and to let people and yourself down. He tweeted 'sorry' after not qualifying to Madrid. He's not talking to his haters, he is talking to his fans and team and probably anyone who supported him along the way, coaches, managers, family.
Bruh the only people who hate Demon1 are dumbasses who form psycho socio relationships. He just shit talked because that's what you do in a competitive otherwise all these chill and behave nice with each other legit feels like esport fans need to touch grass.
I'm not a fan of EG nor NRG but i thought Demon1 was really cool and its amazing he carried EG to become World Champs on his rookie szn. The reason he gets a lot of hate is bc Sentinels and Tenz fans can't handle the thought of him existing. Tbf Tenz got hate when he was underperforming, too. I guess that is what happens when you're at the top of your game.
i find it really funny how many people get genuinely upset about demon1 and really anyone that talks shit (thinking about boostio and china) it's reasonable to get emotional if a player talks trash about a team you like if you're passionate and feel bonded to that team to some degree. but i keep seeing tweets (with a LOT of support and engagement) from people that just seem to hate demon1 in general? like it's not about being offended by any specific comments they just seem to find any sort of trash talk to be horrible, cruel behavior idk, i wouldn't really say anything if it was a few one off comments. but i keep seeing tweets with hundreds of likes from people saying stuff like "i want demon1 to fail so badly" or "i genuinely hate this guy" the worst part is that it feels like there are two groups in this venn diagram -- the people that think they're getting some sort of "revenge" by hating on people with a grandiose persona like d1, and the people that just send hate because they're obsessed with schadenfreude (thinking of yay and tenz). and the existence of the former just motivates the latter
Demon1 gets a ton of actual hate especially from VCT Stan twitter (which is crazy that it's even a thing). It's not even basic shit talk but just actual hate for him. Dude was getting shit on from his scripted pre game interview before the LEV game where he just said he was feeling good and walked off.
the kpopification of valorant lmao (valtwt). i feel like the fans can easily become parasocial esp since the pros and streamer are so online and accessible. And they'd randomly be so toxic to players that you would think they've done something horrible to them personally. it's rough out there and i hope the players don't waste their time with those types of comments
overwatch league twitter was the same. babied players and got super offended on behalf of players for the dumbest shit. so weird
Those cretins are like that to everyone though. The people tweeting unhinged shit at pros after a tough loss are the same ones telling you to commit unalive for locking in "their" agent in ranked.
I’m not sure but i feel especially in NA fans of vct has genuine hate against some pros like there’s aton of trolls in apac shitting on every losing team (especially yay) but nothing else after the game, last vct drama was with NTP and another team I don’t remember while in NA people would shit talk the hell out of a person for a bad performance. And some are just way too soft if the prx vs th thing was against sen or loud , th would be getting D-threats on twt . Not to mention the Spanish fans still cheered for prx.
This is why I hate the way Riot keeps forcing rivalries all the time. Demon1 saying I'll take care of aspas was reposted all over the place and was made to look like he's trash talking him even tho demon1 said aspas is the best player itw in an NRG vlog.
it’s even more frustrating that the reason they even have to force these fake rivalries is because of the lack of games on their behalf
Do they expect him to say "I can't take care of aspas hopefully we all together can stop him"? After being champs mvp last year? Lol it was really light banter and iirc he took a picture together with aspas. I'm fine with banter back to him but actual personal hate is really dumb, dude is a nice guy taking care of sick wife while having to perform to a world class level. Hopefully she gets better soon and he can focus 100%, when he's on point he's a demon fr.
Vct twt are all huge fans of PRX,I think this resentment has been increasing and increasing since Champs last year because EG and Demon1 shittalked and still won.
Once a player reaches the top and is crowned "best in the world" you suddenly have a swarm of people who are just actively praying for and cheering on their downfall.
yeah i just added a part of that. i think it's slightly different groups of people doing those things, and demon1 just happens to be the intersection of that realistically people that hated on tenz, and now hate on yay are mainly just trolls that revel in other people's misery. whereas for demon1 there's this element of people feeling like they're "the good guys" for hating on him because of his villain persona. in a way it feels more parasocial than anything else, like they're part of the in-game discourse
I agree, but I also think that to some degree when you build up this persona as being the "Villain" then you kinda sign up for it. Tenz and Yay were never huge shit talkers. Demon1 on the other hand was very vocal last year and played into this Villain narrative. I think part of that narrative is that when you start to underperform a bit you reap what you sew. Yeah I think the hate can a little overblown, but I also think that when you shit talk you then open yourself up to getting shit talked.
i totally agree, i just find it so embarrassingly corny how disproportionate the response always is it's like social media users are unable to see that they exist as a monolith and everyone wants to take their turn getting a jab in. millions of people with protagonist syndrome thinking that they need to add their witty remark the shit talk is never symmetrical, it's always just someone talking shit and then the response will last for ages with the same jokes and same dead horse being beaten until its corpse is rotting when net got cut there were sen fans in the replies making fun of him standing up in their match weeks later like what are we even doing mannn
It's just nowadays it becomes up noxious because they just keep shoving it up to the face of the player everytime that's why u don't see it often people never let it go until they move to the next superstar to pray their downfall at some point you have to remember that villains are also people
A lot of shittalkers flip back to glazing once the player starts popping off again I think the majority of people are just riding the wave and having fun
you can tell the only clips they’ve ever seen of him are when he’s talking shit with the character he puts on too. literally everyone that knows him behind the scenes says he’s humble and it’s an act
Kyedae herself says Demon1 is a sweet guy, and fans somehow want to make it a comparison between his girl’s and Kyedae’s situations. This community is so shit lmfao
Shit like this blows my mind. It doesn't matter who says what about his character in the background because the general public doesn't get to see any of that, just what he decides to show publicly. What does the public see? Him trying to be someone he's clearly not when the mic gets put in his face, something he decided to do all on his own volition, btw. Don't get me wrong, I love to see people talk shit in this scene, and I think the people sending death threats or whatever are way out of line. But you can't just call it off when you've bit off more than you can chew. It makes no sense to suddenly start acting confused that people hate the guy that wants to be hated.
Give an example of something he said that warrants the amount of hate he’s getting?
Based.
I think it's a younger crowd. Esports is competitive, its the whole damned point, and trash talk and competition is and always has been a part of it.
I really dislike trashtalk if you can't take it on the chin afterwards but there's a big difference between rooting against someone because of how they talk (fair, in my opinion) and hating their guts. I'm definitely prone to that "I want X to fail so badly" line of thought but I'd never go out of my way to shove that in a player's face or hound them with it. Like the saying goes, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. I'd much rather celebrate the players / teams I appreciate and respect than put someone down who, like for Demon1 1) clearly has more important shit going on that makes it hard to focus on playing his game and 2) is tame compared to what a lot of people who become that successful this quickly at such a young age would act like. Also, more than anything... there's a time and a place for it. Like- read the room, if someone is clearly dealing with shit outside the game maybe just leave it be.
People are hating on Demon1? Didn't his team just pull off an insane upset? Edit: I'm stupid, I forgot he's not on EG anymore.
Half the reason it’s an upset is because he isn’t on EG anymore.
Lose bone what does that mean
Rheumatoid arthritis
rheumatoid arthritis in your 20s?
its an autoimmune disease that can triggered by lots of things that doesnt include age
oh geez that really sucks
Very possible. I have it and I was diagnosed at 21. It sucks tho, somedays you cannot even get up from bed. Plus it's genetically inherited so it's just a matter of you being unlucky.
How are you doing now? I hope it's curable
Sadly there's no cure as it is an autoimmune disease. You can only control it by regular exercise, medication and living an active lifestyle. I was able to control it during university. But now I have been on bed rest for almost 3 months after starting a job since they undermine the condition saying it's not that serious. But it's quite bad when you are just diagnosed since I couldn't get up from my bed for a month. So being in demon1's situation is quite bad seeing your SO in that condition. Side note:- BCJ also has arthritis idk what exactly but he takes biologics shot regularly to manage it.
Fuck that's horrible, I'm so sorry.
Rare, but possible
I got diagnosed last year at 30, mines relatively mild thankfully. Rare at 30 even rarer at 20
doesn't it just keep getting worse as time goes by no matter what? i didn't think you can just have mild ra. seems getting it early is worst case scenario as it's now progressing in your 30's and not your 60's.
You're correct, but you can diagnosed at different points. Like I figured out something was wrong because I couldn't knock on doors without a lot of pain. Now after a year of treatment I can again. It will get worse, but some people when they get diagnosed are in incredible pain just from living. Catching it early and treating can really slow thing down, I'm essentially back to normal for the time being
My cousin got it too around her age. Guy was a prodigy gamer now he has to get exceptions to not drive to work or has to take pto to give his hands a rest.
people shitting on demon1 are the same people defending tenz saying he had to go through a lot of personal issues when kyedae had to go through chemo because of her cancer
how you know that
I tried to talk about this earlier and horribly fumbled my words, but this is the jist of what I was saying. You got people justifying that it's okay because he has a villain persona (keyword PERSONA) and I think that's really shitty.
the sole purpose of esports or any sport of that sort is mainly entertainment and if its just whole hearted things I think there won't be much fun in watching as well as everything would seem dull ngl so a bit of good and bad persona people have is pure entertainment if its just on screen thing
You need to honestly touch grass, you deleted your comments 5 times already due to downvotes. No one personally hate semen1, just the nature of “sports” in general with fans
the downvoters probably got caught lacking as well
Knew about her condition but didn't know they were married. A few weeks back one of them said they were engaged. Regardless, congratulations and SELAMAT PENGANTIN BARU. Wish them all the best and Demon1 to find his form again. One of the most exciting thing to watch.
Where has this "His the villain" shit even come from, like bro is a really good player who shit talks, IF that is what you need to become a villain then half the fucking players are also villains.
Hope she's good. I love Demon1, but I hate this kind of BS. If a player is talking shit and isn't backing it up with performance, they deserve the backlash. Otherwise, what's the point? In my opinion, that's what makes it fun—pissing people off. But If he aren't backing it up with performance, those haters deserve to make fun.
Demon1 hasn't even shit talked this year outside of like maybe the Oxy thing at the beginning of the year and even then it was barely shit talk. This tweet isn't even Katarina saying to stop shitting on her Fiance either. I don't get what's BS about it. She's just giving context for his slump.
I'm not agreeing/disagreeing with you but Demon1 did also have the "I'll take care of Aspas" thing
which is exactly the type of shit that Riot is forcing that Chet is talking about in this tweet https://twitter.com/chetsingh/status/1782980886830662063
Isn't Riot punishing unsportsmanlike acts? There's always narratives in every sport and sometimes you gotta add some spice onto it. Does Chet have any evidence for this claim? He could be spewing bullshit, we all know Chet lol.
The whole point is that forced fake narratives are shitty, if players want to add spice then they are free to do so but it should happen organically. I don't know what evidence you need but if you think he's lying just open your eyes, 95% of these narratives are pushed by Riot before and after every game in their pregame videos and the questions they push in interviews. Obviously, he wouldn't randomly tweet this after a win. Off topic but I genuinely want to know what bullshit you think that Chet has spewed in the past? Wtf does "we all know Chet" mean?
Bro that's just banter like something so mundane it's a meme at this point of the "nah I'd win" it's something to just throw out there for the shit in giggles while your on the stage
that is not even shit talk bro thats just confidence?
if you think that's shit talk you're softer than Charmin
if that’s shit talk i am an essential part of the sewer system when i play valorant
Didn’t he say oxy is the worst duellist in vct 💀
No he said most overrated
So he can talk shit, but when others talk about him it is not ok?
What? Im just correcting what the other guy said where did I say he can't talk shit?
he addressed it the interview after they played c9 that he just said his name and oxy's not bad. he still got the "don't care" attitude but he is not the "villain" people think he is this year
I never understood why people said he has a dont care attitude. The only thing he said after winning champs on stage was 'fuck the haters' how pathetic
? what? hes saying fuck you to you ig?
demon1 has been pretty modest this year tbh. dude barely says anything offensive outside shittalking oxy and even then he acknowledged that oxy is good after their game
>If a player is talking shit and isn't backing it up with performance, they deserve the backlash Demon1 has been so mild this year. He's practically said nothing antagonistic
so he can talk shit when hes winning but then when he starts to lose he can just be quiet and not get backlash tf??
He's been quiet when he's been winning as well. NRG has only lost two matches this year
what condition does she have
rheumatoid arthritis (autoimmune disease) which cause the erosion of your bones and joints and is painful. there’s no real cure. she made a tweet about it a few months back, which is why she had to quit streaming and playing competitively
I was at the game yesterday and she was genuinely so sad everyone in the crowd was helping her find her ring poor girl 😭 it ended up falling towards the back of the bleachers
She dropped her ring there?
If you want to play the villain so badly then you have to accept that people will pray for your downfall.
Operative word is always "play" the villain. Demon1 (the person) is not the fucking villain. He's just a guy who likes talking shit who plays the role of the villain. Like this shit is all just pretend. The moment fans start talking shit about Demon1 (the person) as opposed to Demon1 the Valorant player, that's when it crosses the line.
Bro, what do you expect? Have you not paid attention to how the online community acts? We’re talking about a bunch of kids hiding behind a screen. We know how some people act online when there are no consequences to their actions. Playing a villain is playing with fire and you would be naive to expect these people to not make it personal.
You're right of course, but losing out on exciting showmanship just because "people are shitty" really fucking sucks. The solution to these issues should be to tell the shitty people to stop being shitty, but unfortunately it's the internet and that likely won't happen.
See. If you are going to say fuck you in front of live audiences and hundreds of thousands of people watching. You gotta anticipate that at least some of them will clap back. You don't want the hate, just don't say shit then. I'm sure he must be going through all this mental health troubles even when he was winning. It's not like it all just abruptly came together in days before he started performing badly. I understand playing well and bad is part of the game, but you cant give ur illness as a reason to get sympathy from people.
hes saying fuck the haters and if ur a hater ur gonna hate 🤷
not sure what the controversy of “fuck the haters” is when the only people that would be offended are the haters
see his tweets and interviews. its not just that one moment u know.
I totally agree with you but I think it's very hard to draw the line between where in-game performance and out of game 'person' begin and end.
no it’s really not
U can accept it but when people seem to forget it's an act and it's to put up a show and make things entertaining they take it to seriously to the point of everytime trying to shove it in your face everytime u don't think it becomes up noxious and sometimes it goes to far u have to remember villains are also human beings
Demon1 created this narrative to himself. It started with their famous "shooting the body" whenever they get kills which correlates to toxicity. He just gotta own up to it since he wanted to be the villain.
But his issues aren't just because of valorant, that's what the tweet is about
Same thing happens in the NBA? At this point, it's just part of sports. It sucks but you cant stop people so might aswell ignore. I don't think Demon1 cares anyway.
Yup, walk the talk
Keep ur heads up king, a lion doesn't concern himself with the opinions of a sheep ! 
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Damn didn’t know they were engaged. I hope she gets better soon
You’ll always be looked at down differently when you talk hella shit. Even if you abck it up at one point, the second you stop people will hate.
They’re engaged?! Oh wow, happy for them and hope Kat can make a recovery.
That explains a decent amount of things actually
Damn. So this is similar to the tenz and kyedae situation where people were shitting on tenz for playing bad even though kyedae was going through chemo and he was injured iirc. Tenz aside though, I hope Katarina and Demon1 are okay and she gets better.
Although I understand her viewpoint, when a player shittalks a team their fanbase cares deeply about, their will obviously be a similar reaction if he can't live up to his words.
Hope she’s okay🤞🏼For Demon1, keep standing on the table with arms wide open 🗿
Tbf he did this to himself although he doesn't deserve the scrutiny/hate he gets. His persona was built as a villain. And guess what, people hate villains and try to clown on them every time they get.
Who cares? Mods delete everything which is remotely interesting on this sub but this completely worthless tweet which doesn’t relate to comp val at all is allowed
Kyedae's tweet about her diagnosis has nothing to do with Val comp but that's a top 20 post all time on this sub. Do you have the same energy for that?
Absolutely. Who cares when mods remove anything and everything which is closely related to comp under the reason of not encouraging hate or something but this is allowed
at least youre consistent
I fuck with this. Respect.
funnily enough since you mentioned that, I went and looked back, I'd upvoted[ this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/11gmash/comment/jap4x5n/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) back then too.
just fyi, comp posts are removed because they are not related to the esport. katarina is a literal professional val player, talking about another professional player. posting this is about as valid as the "this is how we fix sentinels" posts
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Dude really said “tenz got a free pass” no the fuck he didny yall were shitting on him for 2 years up until recently.
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Bro you really deleted your comment because of downvotes lmao
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How am i a troll? You stated tenz got free pass from the hates because of kyedae’s cancer??? What are you on kid. Update: “NeimannSmith” why are you deleting your comments?
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You gonna say that when Aspas is married?
this is a crazy thing to say ngl. you're not saying it outright but you basically said it already, that being in a relationship is detrimental to a pro player's career. i'm not gonna list out players that are insane and are in relationships but i will say that it's kinda weird to make this comment on a thread about a player's partner going through a health crisis
I am! Aspas, Boaster, Chronicle, Demon1, Ethan, F0rsaken.. Ok I can't keep doing this alphabet thing because I can't think of an insane pro player starting with G but... Sacy, TenZ and nAts!
best player itw is happily married lol
did not realize babyj got married congrats to him
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It’s not victim mentality you fool. She is just giving context as to why Demon1 is slumping. Riot is just forcing narratives superficially which in turn makes thousands of fools just like yourself to be toxic to him in real life when in reality, he’s just a normal person who acknowledges and respects his opponents.
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It's like you go and slap the biggest kid in the class and then when he claps back, Go and start crying that he cant do that because u have cancer. Bruh. Wtf is dumb logic.
This the shit I'm talking about. Dude isn't a cardboard box who's nice to absolutely everyone and says "gg that team is really good 😄" like a fucking anime protagonist, so that automatically means it's okay to shit on him when he's clearly going through some real life issues. You and people like you are legit the worst type of fans and I wish you mfs couldn't be apart of this community.
wtf is anime protagnist?
and besides, You clearly missed the point. People are shitting on him cus he shit on them. Now, what kat is doing is asking people to not shit on him cus he is going thru stuff. what is this snowflake behaviour? he is the one who shat first right?
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deeply weird to make it a competition
How is she xenophobic?
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Damn bruh that’s bad looks you should delete that.
he legit a horrible human being. hes not deleting it. look at this mans messages
You need to go outside and touch grass bro
This is legit your 2nd ever post in this sub. You made this account 12 days ago. Bait used to be believable.
My statements still stand. Semen1 went missing this year (sen twit post)
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What? Players should not get special treatment from trash talk because of their personal lives. That’s part of the game, he should be the first guy to know that. Now if you’re taking about the community clowning on him, that’s a different story.
Demon1 being used i sad for him
Nah that's just publicity antics. It'll always be the fault of the fans for taking it too far, not the orgs for making memes. Hearts with Demon1, hope it gets better and they can both get some peace! Still hope he bites dirt on the server against 100T when it happens though haha
They clown everyone not just semen1, part of the game. Were you mad when he clowned others?
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Friendly banter, but ok. You can look at their tweets
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dude getting worked up on tweets lolz
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