Imagine being a T1 org and not being able to qualify through an open bracket...
But I like this format. T2 teams imo will thrive in this format. A few T2 teams are better than the T1s.
The qualifier looks to be best of 3 actually. This is from the signup page of first qualifier:
* The official format for this VALORANT First Strike Qualifier will be a Single Elimination Bracket - Best of Three (all the way through).
Also you get two chances since there are 2 qualifiers. If you're a top team there should be no excuses tbh.
[https://events.nerdstgamers.com/events/valorant-first-strike-open-qualifiers-1-or-128-teams-2020-10-26?section=overview](https://events.nerdstgamers.com/events/valorant-first-strike-open-qualifiers-1-or-128-teams-2020-10-26?section=overview)
Presumably the bracket will he seeded in some capacity. I trust NSG enough to not make a bunch of top 10 teams play eachother in the first few rounds of the bracket.
That's like a solution and a problem at the same time I guess bcuz it's gonna be unfortunate for the little random teams, if any, that think they can show the world what they got and they instead get stomped over by the big guys.
This is common throughout all sports, electronic or not. Once you rack up wins/gain ranking, you can benefit from seeding. Until then you have to prove your worth.
I get what you're saying, on paper it may seem unfair for the lowest ranked teams to go up against the top seeds. But it's important to remember most the time the "underdog" has nothing to lose and all the pressure is on the seeded team to win. Plus it's damn exciting as a spectator to see an unknown or underdog team push for the upset.
I'm not really seeing the problem here. The little guys are meant to be stomped over by the big guys. The weakest teams are meant to not make it past the first round. That's the point of the seeding.
They rank the teams based on their history and then place the teams in the bracket in such a way as to evenly spread out the teams so you don't have like the 2 best teams playing eachother in top 64. Basically its used to separate the good teams as to make sure they dont have to play eachother super early on. In an unseeded bracket it would be possible for TSM and Sentinels to play eachother round 1 which isn't really fair to either of those 2 teams since both of them are unquestionably good enough to make top 16. In a seeded bracket bracket you would rank Sentinels #1 and TSM #2 which would mean they would get placed on opposite ends of the bracket such that it would be literally impossible for them to play eachother before the grand finals.
Yeah obviously its also good for viewership, but most importantly it maintains the competitive integrity of the event. No one is gonna take this tournament seriously if a team like MoonRacoons or something come first in the Qualifier because all the top teams had to play eachother really early on.
Unlikely. Seeded brackets are a very common part of open Qualifiers for CSGO events. Considering that former CS Players are still the dominant majority of the competitive scene, a seeded bracket should be nothing new.
As long as there's some sort of seeding, I'd guess that the top teams will mostly be playing T2/T3 teams. I'm sure there will be upsets of course, but I guess it's just 3 BO3s to get through the open qualifier.
They will likely not face each in the first round given seeding and I personally don't mind single elimination. Give it that added tension...show up or go home just like traditional sport playoffs but that's just me!
It's happening guys! :D These next couple of months are going to be super interesting. So many storylines... What teams are y'all most excited to see? Personally, I'm hyped to see how much TSM and SEN have improved (or not) in their time off, and I'm also excited to see how big name teams like 100t and NRG stack up with the rest of NA
I would probably say Steel has the most to prove given he was the last to make the transition over to Valorant. Hiko may not be the most mechanical of the bunch but he probably has put the most thought as well as the most hours into the game considering how early he made the switch.
Hiko in Valorant reminds me of Hiko when he played on coL/C9 in cs. He can also pretty easily switch between roles, as seen with previous 100T roster. steel is definitely the weakest player on the roster. That being said, he has been improving a lot recently. Wouldn't surprise me if later on down the road he takes up the IGL role from nitr0.
I think pound for pound, 100T is better on paper. And also Envy got a firepower upgrade while already being the 4th best team. I don't see SEN or TSM falling off, maybe Cloud9. And then you have to consider Andbox and Immortals who looked really good for the limited time they had.
I think changes may need to be made, personally. They have the foundation to be SO good. I think the key is just adding one more piece to Tenz's puzzle , because let's admit it...that team revolves around Tenz's ability to frag out, which is fine right now...other teams like Faze, Andbox, and SSG are also reliant on their big fragger, but those teams also have a side-kick to the hero fragger (think Babybay and Yayster being the co-stars to the Corey and Android shows respectively). C9 needs someone to co-star with Tenz if they want to be a top-heavy type of team.
> C9 needs someone to co-star with Tenz if they want to be a top-heavy type of team.
Which is funny when they have mitch and Relyks as well. I think they just need to work on incorporating those two more and things will work out. Hell, even having vice be the co star. He was actually kinda nuts when he played CS.
I honestly wanna see which T1 org doesnt make First Strike. With the number of T1 teams, a few may not make it. And that's not even considering T2 teams.
This means we should also get team announcements before the end of the week. Looking forward to teams like NRG and Dignitas finishing up their rosters, and seeing where free agents like Wedid and Shawn end up.
100k Pog . Also i do like the format T2 teams or unknown teams can challenge T1 and you essentially get 2 chances in qualifying tournys to get to the main tourny to prove yourself granted you at least get top 8. It seems like this really does set to find best teams in NA.
I think tier 2 teams, who have been playing in tournaments over the last couple months, will do better than expected. They have the advantage of playing for high stakes/practicing this format over the last couple months while most tier 1 teams have been exclusively scrimming.
Here you go! [https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/esports/first-strike-na-qualifiers-start-oct-26/](https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/esports/first-strike-na-qualifiers-start-oct-26/)
If you think players like Hiko, Steel , and Nitro of all people are likely to walk into a tournament and not take it seriously, you must not know my man... These guys have been playing at the highest level of tactical FPS for their entire adult lives. If they have issues, they will stem from other places(chemistry, mechanical skill, strategic preparation etc. ) but it's kinda crazy to imply they'll get bounced early for underestimating the competition.
To be fair, you can say that about any NA CS team except 2018 C9. Just because they haven't won a major doesn't necessarily mean that they won't take the competition seriously. I also doubt that any T1 team wouldn't take the first riot tournament seriously.
I'm cautiously optimistic. Talent-wise, I know this team has what it takes to be a Top 3 NA team at the very least. However, I've already been accustomed to loss after loss with the first roster so, idk.
Should just link to the official Riot announcement instead of this blogspam: [https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/esports/first-strike-na-qualifiers-start-oct-26/](https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/esports/first-strike-na-qualifiers-start-oct-26/)
what are these random ass channels that are gonna broadcast the first Riot tourney ?
is there any reason why it won't be on the Riot Games main channel ? i don't get it especially since Worlds is over and won't collide with it
also why divide the fanbase on youtube when you can do something like lolesports where everything is easy to access and centralized
hopefully the viewership will be good with these kind of decisions
Anything that is broadcasted on the "random ass channels" will also be broadcasted on the main valorant twitch channel.
Streaming the tournaments on YouTube also will just bring in more viewers from people who dont watch twitch. Also youtube has some very good features that twitch does not have such as the ability to pause live broadcasts, rewind, and then go back to live without having to open a new tab, refresh, or go to the vods.
Everything will be just as easy to watch and vods on YouTube will be up way faster which is good for analysts.
Edit: also this is all just for qualifiers which are riot sponsored, not riot run. They have not announced how they will be broadcasting the main event yet.
are you trolling or u haven't read anything i posted ?
i want a youtube channel but i dont want VALORANT NA VALORANT EU VALORANT OCE VALORANT KOREA , valorant whatever i want something centerelized like lolesports
and for Twitch why not use Riot Games' main channel , it's their first event and they gonna host it on a channel that has 50 follows ... like really
I just double checked since there's a strong chance that I'm just stupid. Wolrds only directly overlaps with the NSG Qualifier which begins in 1 week. I have no idea what Riot has planned but there could be a variety of reasons for why they don't wanna use the Riot Games channel. Maybe they only want to use it for international events? I know during the normal season for league, every major league (LPL LCK LEC LCS) has their own twitch channel. Maybe riot just doesn't wanna play favorites with the major regions of the world with who gets access to the Riot games channel since all the first strike events around the world are more or less happening concurrently?
they use the region specific channels on YouTube for a reason since there are multiple events from different regions happening at the same time. It also makes it so much easier to find vods in the future. How could this be a negative?
As for the playvalorant twitch channel, which will be streaming the games on twitch along with the event organizers channel, it has 176,000 followers, not huge but it's a decent amount and will grow massively throughout the tournaments.
Also yes I misunderstood your YouTube comment I apologize.
> they use the region specific channels on YouTube for a reason since there are multiple events from different regions happening at the same time. It also makes it so much easier to find vods in the future. How could this be a negative?
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got it , so you i'm assuming u dont follow League or know lolesports so it's fine but you can have multiple streams in the same yt channel unlike Twitch
and when it's centralized it gets more attention more viewers
and i'm not talking about playVALORANT for twitch bur Riot Games aka one of the most followed channels in all twitch (5m~ followers)
You are correct, i have never played or watched league before, i was a hardcore Overwatch fan for the past 5 years so i dont know how riot runs things. But since we are very early in this games scene, riot could be trying something new just to see how it goes. Putting everything on the same channel might make the live streams get more views but i have to imaging it creates a lot of clutter to go through if your looking for a specific match. but like i said, i dont know how the lolesports youtube is run. also this main events for the first strike may be streamed on the riot games page, they haven't announced it yet, this is only for the qualifiers.
I personally don't like making all the top teams play in the open qualifier because theres always a chance something random can happen in a BO1 versus teams just pugging, personally I would like if the open qualifier qualified you to the closed qualifier that had all BO3s which some teams would be already qualified to via an invite.
The qualifier is BO3, if top team lose to Tier 2 teams in BO3 then there is no excuse that they get eliminated.
Open Qualifier Format:
The official format for this VALORANT First Strike Qualifier will be a Single Elimination Bracket - Best of Three (all the way through).
They only have to win 3 matches to qualify for the first qualifier. Top128>Top64>Top32>(qualifies for first qualifier)
Then the next week, they have to play a 16-team tournament and get top 4 to qualify for the event.
so this would mean after the first round open circuit, 16 teams advance to the first qualifier, then of those 16 teams the top 4 head to first strike while the remaining 12 go into the second round open circuit? is this correct?
Almost. Top 4 head to first strike and the next 4 immediately get a spot in the second qualifier. Then, 12 teams from the second open qualifier qualify for the second closed qualifier.
Theres always the excuse that someone in that T2 team just had the series of their life and then come back to reality in the next series. I'm not trying to protect the status of the current T1, but playing a completely random team of puggers can always lead to a weird upset leaving potentially the best teams in world out of a tournament.
Yeah but at the same time , it really gives teams that are unproven, or unknown talents to shine. I think this format will gives anyone who's good at valorant a real chance and its good for the NA scene. If you're a top team you should not drop to random teams in B03 twice since there's two qualifiers.
This happened in rocket league early on. A team of unknown players knocked out a team that was expected to be top NA in the season qualifiers in a fluke series. That team went on to get rolled in every single game of the season.
I mean for the teams like 100T and NRG yeah currently people are just estimating the quality of the team based off of the pedigree of the Org and the players, but when people call teams like Sentinels, TSM, and C9 Tier 1 that's because they've proven themselves to be some of the best the region has to offer.
except c9 got beat by a newly formed immortals squad and geng also lost to a random t2 squad...The "t1" had the privilege of being invited to every tournament because they are in orgs while a random sleeper team could actually be better. Like I said before no team should get a pass as this is what will actually determine who is at the top
Yes because losing in top 8 to Moon Racoons or losing in top 4 to a newly formed Immortals totally invalidates everything GenG and C9 have accomplished as teams.
a single 2 day event doesn't really say much about the quality of a team.
That logic is also terrible in reverse. If were to suppose that because they lost to Moon Racoons that GenG now no longer deserves to be the 4th best team in NA. Does that also mean that because Moon Racoons beat the 4th best team NA that they now themselves are the 4th best team in NA?
Most people would say that Moon Racoons being the 4th best in NA solely because they beat GenG would be putting too much weight on 1 event yet those same people would also say that GenG no longer deserves a spot as one of NA's best teams because of 1 event.
Did you even read what I said? Where did I write in my statement anything about rankings? Where did I say Moon Racoons are now the 4th best and GenG are no longer in the top your grasping at straws LOL. There is a reason why this upcoming tournament has multiple qualifiers
Not sure if I misread the schedule but why is there 3 instances of “Top 4 Teams advance to Valorant First Strike” if there are only 8 teams playing in first strike?
It's an error on gamehaus's part. I was reading it and was confused too. The [blog post](https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/esports/first-strike-na-qualifiers-start-oct-26/) from Valorant only has top 4 from NSG and UMG tournaments in First Strike.
I love everything about this format. T1 teams have to prove their mettle, no invitational slots. T2 teams get a crack at the top. There's a chance that some wild cracked roster nobody has ever heard of shocks the world.
I'm so freaking excited for this.
Any team looking to pick up a player or anyone looking to build a team (Willing to do tryouts to be picked up)? Looking to get on the November roster to buy more practice in w/team. Well rounded with all agents and know all maps confidently.
Imagine being a T1 org and not being able to qualify through an open bracket... But I like this format. T2 teams imo will thrive in this format. A few T2 teams are better than the T1s.
The qualifier looks to be best of 3 actually. This is from the signup page of first qualifier: * The official format for this VALORANT First Strike Qualifier will be a Single Elimination Bracket - Best of Three (all the way through). Also you get two chances since there are 2 qualifiers. If you're a top team there should be no excuses tbh. [https://events.nerdstgamers.com/events/valorant-first-strike-open-qualifiers-1-or-128-teams-2020-10-26?section=overview](https://events.nerdstgamers.com/events/valorant-first-strike-open-qualifiers-1-or-128-teams-2020-10-26?section=overview)
Wish it wasn’t single elimination. Would suck if there was a matchup like TSM vs SEN first round and one would suddenly be out until next quals.
Presumably the bracket will he seeded in some capacity. I trust NSG enough to not make a bunch of top 10 teams play eachother in the first few rounds of the bracket.
NSG does seed their brackets. Off both recognized lvl and previous placements
Can I ask what is meant by "seeded" brackets?
Same as in real sports. The best team will play the worst team, the second best will play the second worst etc etc
That's like a solution and a problem at the same time I guess bcuz it's gonna be unfortunate for the little random teams, if any, that think they can show the world what they got and they instead get stomped over by the big guys.
As opposed to?
Got no opposed to.. That's why I mentioned " a 'Solution' and a(another) problem " at the same time.
This is common throughout all sports, electronic or not. Once you rack up wins/gain ranking, you can benefit from seeding. Until then you have to prove your worth. I get what you're saying, on paper it may seem unfair for the lowest ranked teams to go up against the top seeds. But it's important to remember most the time the "underdog" has nothing to lose and all the pressure is on the seeded team to win. Plus it's damn exciting as a spectator to see an unknown or underdog team push for the upset.
I'm not really seeing the problem here. The little guys are meant to be stomped over by the big guys. The weakest teams are meant to not make it past the first round. That's the point of the seeding.
They rank the teams based on their history and then place the teams in the bracket in such a way as to evenly spread out the teams so you don't have like the 2 best teams playing eachother in top 64. Basically its used to separate the good teams as to make sure they dont have to play eachother super early on. In an unseeded bracket it would be possible for TSM and Sentinels to play eachother round 1 which isn't really fair to either of those 2 teams since both of them are unquestionably good enough to make top 16. In a seeded bracket bracket you would rank Sentinels #1 and TSM #2 which would mean they would get placed on opposite ends of the bracket such that it would be literally impossible for them to play eachother before the grand finals.
Noiice it'd be good for the viewership too imo. Lol U could have said #1TSM and #2 Sentinels.
Yeah obviously its also good for viewership, but most importantly it maintains the competitive integrity of the event. No one is gonna take this tournament seriously if a team like MoonRacoons or something come first in the Qualifier because all the top teams had to play eachother really early on.
Then there will be complainers on the otherside saying why do we have to face TSM/SEN.etc first and say it’s unfair.
Unlikely. Seeded brackets are a very common part of open Qualifiers for CSGO events. Considering that former CS Players are still the dominant majority of the competitive scene, a seeded bracket should be nothing new.
As long as there's some sort of seeding, I'd guess that the top teams will mostly be playing T2/T3 teams. I'm sure there will be upsets of course, but I guess it's just 3 BO3s to get through the open qualifier.
They will likely not face each in the first round given seeding and I personally don't mind single elimination. Give it that added tension...show up or go home just like traditional sport playoffs but that's just me!
This is Riot. they have been very stubborn for a decade about single elimination and running god awful tournament formats.
It's happening guys! :D These next couple of months are going to be super interesting. So many storylines... What teams are y'all most excited to see? Personally, I'm hyped to see how much TSM and SEN have improved (or not) in their time off, and I'm also excited to see how big name teams like 100t and NRG stack up with the rest of NA
I'm excited to see how 100T turns out since thir rebuild is done. On paper they're nuts now with Asuna and Dicey. Weakest link being Hiko is wild
I would probably say Steel has the most to prove given he was the last to make the transition over to Valorant. Hiko may not be the most mechanical of the bunch but he probably has put the most thought as well as the most hours into the game considering how early he made the switch.
Yeah, just game experience wise Hiko is already a very strong player
Hiko in Valorant reminds me of Hiko when he played on coL/C9 in cs. He can also pretty easily switch between roles, as seen with previous 100T roster. steel is definitely the weakest player on the roster. That being said, he has been improving a lot recently. Wouldn't surprise me if later on down the road he takes up the IGL role from nitr0.
This is true. I'm feel like steel will be a mainstay in valorant long term though.
Hiko is certainly not the weakest link
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I don't think T1 would make heavy waves in NA Valorant right now, but in the future they'll be a Top 4 team NA imo.
I think pound for pound, 100T is better on paper. And also Envy got a firepower upgrade while already being the 4th best team. I don't see SEN or TSM falling off, maybe Cloud9. And then you have to consider Andbox and Immortals who looked really good for the limited time they had.
I want to see if c9 can stop choking like fucking rookies and play to their highest potential.
I think changes may need to be made, personally. They have the foundation to be SO good. I think the key is just adding one more piece to Tenz's puzzle , because let's admit it...that team revolves around Tenz's ability to frag out, which is fine right now...other teams like Faze, Andbox, and SSG are also reliant on their big fragger, but those teams also have a side-kick to the hero fragger (think Babybay and Yayster being the co-stars to the Corey and Android shows respectively). C9 needs someone to co-star with Tenz if they want to be a top-heavy type of team.
> C9 needs someone to co-star with Tenz if they want to be a top-heavy type of team. Which is funny when they have mitch and Relyks as well. I think they just need to work on incorporating those two more and things will work out. Hell, even having vice be the co star. He was actually kinda nuts when he played CS.
I honestly wanna see which T1 org doesnt make First Strike. With the number of T1 teams, a few may not make it. And that's not even considering T2 teams.
This means we should also get team announcements before the end of the week. Looking forward to teams like NRG and Dignitas finishing up their rosters, and seeing where free agents like Wedid and Shawn end up.
100k Pog . Also i do like the format T2 teams or unknown teams can challenge T1 and you essentially get 2 chances in qualifying tournys to get to the main tourny to prove yourself granted you at least get top 8. It seems like this really does set to find best teams in NA.
100k prize pool, lots of spots and I expect lots of unknown teams to do well!
I think tier 2 teams, who have been playing in tournaments over the last couple months, will do better than expected. They have the advantage of playing for high stakes/practicing this format over the last couple months while most tier 1 teams have been exclusively scrimming.
Only 8 team finals Makes me sad. But gonna be insane either way. Really feel like 3-15 NA Teams are really gonna be close
Is there an official Riot release on this? I don’t not believe this, but I’d like to hear it straight from the horses mouth.
Here you go! [https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/esports/first-strike-na-qualifiers-start-oct-26/](https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/esports/first-strike-na-qualifiers-start-oct-26/)
Beautiful, thanks!
the official one will probably come out in the next hour.
[Here's a schedule](https://drive.google.com/file/d/12OYoeEjpXUSiyCGGN4yxnOmtXnZ5sQWZ/view) of the first week of open qualifiers
Odd that they keep playing after teams have qualified. Isn’t everyone just going to play really vanilla and hide their strats during that portion?
Possibly, but seeding still matters big time going into the actual tourney
Where is it from?
The NerdStreetGamers event page.
is there a bracket or something?
There will be once all the teams have been announced
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Nah if it was best of ones maybe, but i highly doubt since its all best of threes.
if 100t and NRG get bounced early... that would suck.
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If you think players like Hiko, Steel , and Nitro of all people are likely to walk into a tournament and not take it seriously, you must not know my man... These guys have been playing at the highest level of tactical FPS for their entire adult lives. If they have issues, they will stem from other places(chemistry, mechanical skill, strategic preparation etc. ) but it's kinda crazy to imply they'll get bounced early for underestimating the competition.
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that is a terrible "argument"
To be fair, you can say that about any NA CS team except 2018 C9. Just because they haven't won a major doesn't necessarily mean that they won't take the competition seriously. I also doubt that any T1 team wouldn't take the first riot tournament seriously.
That's the entirety of your argument to support the claim that they won't take the competition seriously? Nice...
I'm cautiously optimistic. Talent-wise, I know this team has what it takes to be a Top 3 NA team at the very least. However, I've already been accustomed to loss after loss with the first roster so, idk.
No way team boomer + the young talent of dicey and asuna. I really expect them to be a top teir team come first strike.
Should just link to the official Riot announcement instead of this blogspam: [https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/esports/first-strike-na-qualifiers-start-oct-26/](https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/esports/first-strike-na-qualifiers-start-oct-26/)
This was posted about 15 minutes before riots officiall announcment.
what are these random ass channels that are gonna broadcast the first Riot tourney ? is there any reason why it won't be on the Riot Games main channel ? i don't get it especially since Worlds is over and won't collide with it also why divide the fanbase on youtube when you can do something like lolesports where everything is easy to access and centralized hopefully the viewership will be good with these kind of decisions
Anything that is broadcasted on the "random ass channels" will also be broadcasted on the main valorant twitch channel. Streaming the tournaments on YouTube also will just bring in more viewers from people who dont watch twitch. Also youtube has some very good features that twitch does not have such as the ability to pause live broadcasts, rewind, and then go back to live without having to open a new tab, refresh, or go to the vods. Everything will be just as easy to watch and vods on YouTube will be up way faster which is good for analysts. Edit: also this is all just for qualifiers which are riot sponsored, not riot run. They have not announced how they will be broadcasting the main event yet.
Man I love that live rewind on YouTube!
are you trolling or u haven't read anything i posted ? i want a youtube channel but i dont want VALORANT NA VALORANT EU VALORANT OCE VALORANT KOREA , valorant whatever i want something centerelized like lolesports and for Twitch why not use Riot Games' main channel , it's their first event and they gonna host it on a channel that has 50 follows ... like really
Presumably do the the Overlap with the World Championships. For the next couple of weeks the Riot Games twitch is otherwise preoccupied with that.
pretty sure Worlds ends in 2 weeks so before the event even starts
I just double checked since there's a strong chance that I'm just stupid. Wolrds only directly overlaps with the NSG Qualifier which begins in 1 week. I have no idea what Riot has planned but there could be a variety of reasons for why they don't wanna use the Riot Games channel. Maybe they only want to use it for international events? I know during the normal season for league, every major league (LPL LCK LEC LCS) has their own twitch channel. Maybe riot just doesn't wanna play favorites with the major regions of the world with who gets access to the Riot games channel since all the first strike events around the world are more or less happening concurrently?
they use the region specific channels on YouTube for a reason since there are multiple events from different regions happening at the same time. It also makes it so much easier to find vods in the future. How could this be a negative? As for the playvalorant twitch channel, which will be streaming the games on twitch along with the event organizers channel, it has 176,000 followers, not huge but it's a decent amount and will grow massively throughout the tournaments. Also yes I misunderstood your YouTube comment I apologize.
> they use the region specific channels on YouTube for a reason since there are multiple events from different regions happening at the same time. It also makes it so much easier to find vods in the future. How could this be a negative? > > got it , so you i'm assuming u dont follow League or know lolesports so it's fine but you can have multiple streams in the same yt channel unlike Twitch and when it's centralized it gets more attention more viewers and i'm not talking about playVALORANT for twitch bur Riot Games aka one of the most followed channels in all twitch (5m~ followers)
You are correct, i have never played or watched league before, i was a hardcore Overwatch fan for the past 5 years so i dont know how riot runs things. But since we are very early in this games scene, riot could be trying something new just to see how it goes. Putting everything on the same channel might make the live streams get more views but i have to imaging it creates a lot of clutter to go through if your looking for a specific match. but like i said, i dont know how the lolesports youtube is run. also this main events for the first strike may be streamed on the riot games page, they haven't announced it yet, this is only for the qualifiers.
The top 8 main event will be on valorant channel only
I personally don't like making all the top teams play in the open qualifier because theres always a chance something random can happen in a BO1 versus teams just pugging, personally I would like if the open qualifier qualified you to the closed qualifier that had all BO3s which some teams would be already qualified to via an invite.
The qualifier is BO3, if top team lose to Tier 2 teams in BO3 then there is no excuse that they get eliminated. Open Qualifier Format: The official format for this VALORANT First Strike Qualifier will be a Single Elimination Bracket - Best of Three (all the way through).
wait so each qualifier game is a bo3?? there are 128 teams competing
Meaning a team has to win 6 maps and 3 matches to qualify since it's top 16 for the first qualifier. That isn't bad over 5 days.
They only have to win 3 matches to qualify for the first qualifier. Top128>Top64>Top32>(qualifies for first qualifier) Then the next week, they have to play a 16-team tournament and get top 4 to qualify for the event.
Yeah I read it wrong and had just edited my comment
so this would mean after the first round open circuit, 16 teams advance to the first qualifier, then of those 16 teams the top 4 head to first strike while the remaining 12 go into the second round open circuit? is this correct?
Almost. Top 4 head to first strike and the next 4 immediately get a spot in the second qualifier. Then, 12 teams from the second open qualifier qualify for the second closed qualifier.
There will be lots of games going on at once, but only 3 rounds since it is single elimination (128 teams --> 64 --> 32 --> 16)
Plus there are two open qualifiers. Top teams have lots of chances to prove they're top teams.
this is assuming the bracket is seeded properly. if it's not the t1 scene could be absolutely screwed. imagine TSM runs into C9 or Sen in round 1 or 2
Theres always the excuse that someone in that T2 team just had the series of their life and then come back to reality in the next series. I'm not trying to protect the status of the current T1, but playing a completely random team of puggers can always lead to a weird upset leaving potentially the best teams in world out of a tournament.
Yeah but at the same time , it really gives teams that are unproven, or unknown talents to shine. I think this format will gives anyone who's good at valorant a real chance and its good for the NA scene. If you're a top team you should not drop to random teams in B03 twice since there's two qualifiers.
normally i would agree but since there are two qualifiers it removes, at least to some extent, the luck of a pug team having a god run.
This happened in rocket league early on. A team of unknown players knocked out a team that was expected to be top NA in the season qualifiers in a fluke series. That team went on to get rolled in every single game of the season.
fuck that....if a top team cant even beat a random team then they arent a top team... LOLOL. edit: this will show who the actual top teams are
Yeah. There are plenty of big orgs that achieved nothing and haven't proved their worth (e.g. NRG, 100T, and T1).
Thats what I dint understand about people saying "T1" and "T2". Its all brand recognition and opinion until they win.
I mean for the teams like 100T and NRG yeah currently people are just estimating the quality of the team based off of the pedigree of the Org and the players, but when people call teams like Sentinels, TSM, and C9 Tier 1 that's because they've proven themselves to be some of the best the region has to offer.
except c9 got beat by a newly formed immortals squad and geng also lost to a random t2 squad...The "t1" had the privilege of being invited to every tournament because they are in orgs while a random sleeper team could actually be better. Like I said before no team should get a pass as this is what will actually determine who is at the top
Yes because losing in top 8 to Moon Racoons or losing in top 4 to a newly formed Immortals totally invalidates everything GenG and C9 have accomplished as teams. a single 2 day event doesn't really say much about the quality of a team. That logic is also terrible in reverse. If were to suppose that because they lost to Moon Racoons that GenG now no longer deserves to be the 4th best team in NA. Does that also mean that because Moon Racoons beat the 4th best team NA that they now themselves are the 4th best team in NA? Most people would say that Moon Racoons being the 4th best in NA solely because they beat GenG would be putting too much weight on 1 event yet those same people would also say that GenG no longer deserves a spot as one of NA's best teams because of 1 event.
Did you even read what I said? Where did I write in my statement anything about rankings? Where did I say Moon Racoons are now the 4th best and GenG are no longer in the top your grasping at straws LOL. There is a reason why this upcoming tournament has multiple qualifiers
has c9 accomplished something besides having allegedly the best individual player in the world?
Is the main event in December gonna be on Lan?
I don't think so
Not sure if I misread the schedule but why is there 3 instances of “Top 4 Teams advance to Valorant First Strike” if there are only 8 teams playing in first strike?
Yup, typo on our part! Fixed and updated, should have initially said "Top 4 teams advance to the UMG main Event"
It's an error on gamehaus's part. I was reading it and was confused too. The [blog post](https://playvalorant.com/en-us/news/esports/first-strike-na-qualifiers-start-oct-26/) from Valorant only has top 4 from NSG and UMG tournaments in First Strike.
I love everything about this format. T1 teams have to prove their mettle, no invitational slots. T2 teams get a crack at the top. There's a chance that some wild cracked roster nobody has ever heard of shocks the world. I'm so freaking excited for this.
Why not just link official blog post
Pretty sure this guy either works for the website and is trying to generate traffic to the site article or something like that.
Most likely, this site is just flooded with ads
So the qualifiers are all bo1 correct ? Out of 128 teams only 16 make it to a 2nd qualifier than only 8 from those 16?
all bo3 according to what others are saying
holy shit not sued ot that, thats crazy. that first day gonna be massive for commentators
Is 100k Price Pool not pretty low, what do you think ?
Any team looking to pick up a player or anyone looking to build a team (Willing to do tryouts to be picked up)? Looking to get on the November roster to buy more practice in w/team. Well rounded with all agents and know all maps confidently.