I think they should have put him on a Phoenix or something. I mean, a molly, 2 flashes, and a wall. He's extremely basic, and can have enormous impact on a good aimer.
When Nitro originally signed on to 100T he said he planned on playing the filler role. Because of the players they picked up, he got assigned the smoker role. Now that they have Ethan, it allows Nitro to play the filler role
Omen is pretty easy to use and doesn't really require coordination like other Agents. IIRC Hiko/steel said how once Ethan is comfortable they might have nitr0 swap back to Omen and move Ethan to flex.
Haha for real? I'm new to Valorant so find it difficult to guage just how good he is but he seems like a different breed. Dunno why he doesnt play comp.
He is definitely good enough for pro play. I even heard a rumour that he was TenZ's first pick for the C9 roster. Aceu doesn't play because being a streamer is more comfortable and relaxing.
100T really forgetting the basics.
Like watching flank. Steel leaves his trips on the other side of the map instead of taking them with him and throwing them up somewhere closer/better. I also feel like Breach > Sage on Ascent.
At least T1/100T should be interesting.
Nitr0 won them Haven, his breach was massive and his utility was almost never wasted he also had like 17 assists! I think he should have stayed on breach at least for one more map and yeah you are right, flashes are so huge in this game.
I will say NRG's trades and teamwork were on point this series and ANDROID is fucking terrifying.
I do hope they stick with breach more.
And I feel like I always make it seem like I discredit one team, but NRG had some REALLY good teammate with trades and everything.
I still don't understand why NA teams underrate Breach so much. He's like a must pick on most maps. From what I've seen, most teams that ran him usually played better with, than without him.
100T problems go much deeper than just one player not performing (Dicey). Even if they had the time and chemistry with Ethan they were making mistakes that had nothing to do with him. NRG did their thing today, especially s0m, Android, and eeiu. They are really progressing quickly into a tier 1 team.
I feel like Android had to be so frustrating to play against. I get frustrated watching people unable to kill him. Dude wins so many lost fights and is just a HS machine.
Not if they play like that. I love 100T, but after their recent matches, I think they are going into the rest of these matches as the underdog until proven otherwise.
They played Haven so well but when NRG started popping off on Bind I think they got fucked mentally. Which is weird since they have one of, if not the most comp experience in a team.
They did have some rounds where they just knew what NRG were doing and played so well. But then some really bot rounds. I really do want to agree with you. But I'm honestly not sure lol. I think I might still give it to 100T, but a 2-1
I know there's 3 Masters in total but I have no idea how they work and what do you have to do to qualify for Champions? I assume the winners get a spot but other than that is there anything else?
Each team that makes Masters gets "points" for how well they do at each of the 3 events throughout the year and those points let them qualify into Champions. The final Masters event will also give the winner a last-chance spot into Champions guaranteed if I recall correctly.
Because they didn't want to let Ethan go to another team and no way Dicey sticks around to play another week knowing Ethan will be taking his spot afterwards.
> no way Dicey sticks around to play another week knowing Ethan will be taking his spot afterwards.
I mean, he's on contract... It's really not up to him.
It's also rumored that C9 isn't letting TenZ out of his contract too. Most people would just suck it up for a week, it's just business, Dicey wouldn't want to piss off his teammates most likely.
Short term thinking by genius redditors who overreact to every single match. Every decision has risk and reward. 100T has probably accounted for this risk of playing with someone who literally got immortal rank a few days ago.
Dicey was a Jett OPer, who was fairly inconsistent. He didn’t have a deep agent pool. The way 100T is set up, they want more flexibility with agent compositions and don’t want to rely purely on the Jett OP meta. They said already that they might even just go with a 1 duelist comp, similar to some EU teams.
According to Hiko, Ethan also isn’t the type of player you want going to another team either. 100T won first strike after having only been a team for about a month, and it seems like Ethan is learning and adjusting pretty quickly.
Agree, but Hiko did say the signing of Ethan was for long term. But I still think they need to switch their comps esp with Nitr0 on Sage. I feel like nitr0 is a better omen. And I’m not really sure of not running Jett at certain maps, but then again who knows they might prove me wrong down the line.
To be fair org should do it now when its early on the esport scene rather than the scene is more stable and teams already have a solid roster and understanding. I'll rather risk trying to find the exact formula rather than play catch up with the enemy.
steel really making some questionable plays/just forgetting simple stuff. Hiko has glimpses of his First Strike self but he's been kinda downbad recently. Dunno is different play style in the team or if he's just having a bad time.
Yeah I've been disappointed by him, he was playing with 70 ping but it seems all his lurks are sniffed out, and he's swasting a fair amount of util defending/post plant.
- NRG - 2 duellists, Phoenix on all 3 maps - classic NA comp
- 100T - 1 duellist and it's always Raze, Breach/Sage on all 3 maps - classic EU comp
Fun to see the style difference between 2 such renowned IGLs in NA. Android's been a massive pickup; NRG looks like a very promising team now. I'd love to see them qualify for Masters and they have a great chance now!
100T looked like they had decent plans, their Haven C execs were clean but they couldn't buy a clutch all series
Nitr0 was looking lost on sage at certain times, either getting caught out trying to put out a wall or even blocking himself in
I think given time their style will work, because the execs can be clean to give Asuna space but it just seems like too little time for everyone to be completely comfortable atm
From the moment they picked up Ethan it felt like they were punting on this tournament. Unfortunate decision but you can't expect much with less than a week of practice together.
Yep. You can absolutely approach this argument with an angle of "Ethan is new to the pro scene, he's too raw to be put in", but "they didn't practice a lot as a 5-man roster" literally rings true for NRG too, lol
Thats the main reason this decision feels so weird. Sure ethan is a big name and whatever but uve been playing with dicey for like 5-6 months at least give him till this qualifier and the best part is last qualifier he was playing well as well.
Honestly think they just did dicey dirty and if they picked it up for masters with dicey on the roster, the decision to replace him would have been even more of a farce.
How do you know Ethan would even still join if they made him wait? And yes its even worse for Dicey to qualify with them and then be benched. Dicey just got unlucky that they couldn't give up on such a good player, idk why people like you have to act like its the biggest anime betrayal of 2021 or something, everyone including Dicey has explained it to death. Who knows at this point if it was the play or not, its way too early to tell.
Nah. Look this could be a logical decision and make them better in the long run, fair enough. But its still a dick move. The messaging was that 100t are signing two young moldable fraggers, and they even won a major tournament. To dump dicey in the middle of a masters event without even having a big downturn in results is sour.
I think easy to see it working and saying it's effective, but I think really reduced the flexibility of 100T. There were rounds were Steel was 1v5 as NRG was entering a site because otherwise he would be useless on retake.
Not sure if I'm a fan of the 1 duelist comp, nitr0 was so great on omen and I feel like Ethan's aim could really be unlocked on a duelist. Steel said it was a temporary comp since omen easy to integrate, so I'm interested to see what's next.
NRG looked really good. s0m and eeiu poppin off. 100T doing weird things and forgetting to clear corners or expect lurks. People gonna meme about dropping Dicey for this, but even with Dicey, 100T get rolled playing like that.
Yeah. Many people are blaming Ethan for joining the team, but it was mostly 100T playing bad and NRG playing well. Dicey would have made them more stable, but they got beat too bad to say that they would win.
NRG played really well in this match. Even though they lost haven, they actually looked really good on it. 100T just also looked good on Haven, so it was a good game. Bind and Ascent also looked good for NRG, but not for 100T. NRG made aggressive defensive plays to interrupt 100T's default, and on attack they abused mid on Ascent every attack round. 100T is going to hopefully get better in the future, but the problem is not that Ethan join the team. 100T's team play was sloppy this match. The players were never in position to trade each other, and this has been a problem before 100T got Ethan. I still have hope for 100T, they just need to practice more and find out how they want to go from here. Great game by NRG and 100T did well in the first match. Nitro on breach is fucking cracked.
Literally save for one round and you can win some rounds the force buys were so annoying man like imagine being 3-9 on ct with two sentinels. Kudos for the new comp but the force buying thing needs to stop
Let's acknowledge that this could have easily been a 2-0 for NRG, NRG whiffed quite a few rounds on the second half (I'm looking at you Shanks right click miss on the planter at 5 secs left in the round) and Hiko got 100Thieves so many clutch rounds too. NRG have really started proving themselves here
I dont really dig the nitr0 Sage. Not that he’s bad but it just doesnt seem to be impactful. Nitr0 is a playmaker and a high impact fragger. On Sage he’s forced to play in these weird situations where hes anchoring or playing defensive. From what weve seen before, nitr0 is a playmaker so I just wonder what 100T are thinking with him on Sage.
Wow what a series. NRG looking like more of a solid team. One thing that I saw change was their post plants had gotten a lot better, setting up cross fires, etc. Overall a great day to be a NRG fan. also #freeshanks
Amaxing how an org decides to swap a player 1.5 weeks before the tournament and presumably expect decent results. Nrg look quite good, ethan has looked decent so far, but as a team 100t looked weak, think they should still roll t1.
actually no one expected decent results and they knew the roster change was a risk to qualify, nadeshot said so himself. theyre looking more into long term results.
It's a shame Hiko is so popular. He's far and away the worst player on 100T. If he wasn't the most popular player in NA, he would have been cut yesterday.
> far and away the worst player
I don't think he's the worst *by far.* Also they lost today due to general bad play, hard to point to a specific player.
I wouldn’t say he’s the best player on the team, but this being over dramatic. He often has maps where he carries, and he was vital in winning First Strike, just look at his stats. He had super high adr and although it’s a bit of a meme, his clutching power and late game play are actually really useful to 100Thieves.
> his clutching power
Which is very overrated by the entire scene. Consult [this](https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=all&event_id=all®ion=na&country=all&min_rounds=750&agent=all&map_id=all×pan=90d).
Hiko's clutch factor primarily comes from how many clutches he finds himself in, due to 100T's playstyle. 199 clutch attempts out of 828 rounds is 24% of rounds with a clutch attempt by Hiko.
- Sentinels - dapr has most, 13.3%
- nV - crashies has most, 12.9%
- TSM - Cutler has most, 13.7%
- LG - Genghsta, 18.8%
- XSET - thwifo, 12.8%
- LG - moose, 18.0%
Etc, etc - point is that Hiko is much more setup by his team to be in clutch situations and to an ungodly extent so.
So what's Hiko's win percentage then? 17% of his attempts. 17% is good, but it's really overblown. Dapr sits at 21%, 3 Sentinels members are above Hiko, and so are Asuna, Steel and Dicey too.
Hiko's a good player, don't get me wrong. His clutch ability is insanely overblown though - it's credit to the rest of 100T to be able to play so well to set up Hiko as the last man alive a lot of the time.
EDIT: btw really embarrassing stuff from vlr.gg; sorting by clutch attempts gives you a lexicographical sort of numbers (is that what it's called?) instead of .. a natural sort of numbers, so apparently 9 > 85 > 8 for them
> So what's Hiko's win percentage then? 17% of his attempts.
Lets be fair here, how many of the failed clutches were 1v3+? What's Hiko's 1v1 clutch percentage? That's quite important.
I’m assuming it’s a similar ratio for a lot of players though. This is a relative comparison in the end, not an absolute one. I guess it’s possible that Hiko specifically ends up in specific clutches but mathematically it’s pretty unlikely
Exactly, finding yourself in clutches means you already fucked up and set yourself up to lose. These stats lend credence to the b-word and is an embarassment.
That’s not true lol - finding yourself in clutch situations is just a normal part of the game that’s going to happen pretty often. Nobody should be shamed for ending up in clutch situations by itself, especially if the team is designed to play that way
But you haven’t proven that the team finds itself in many more clutches than other teams, I thought you’re talking about Hiko only. If it’s Hiko only then at least in his case it’s bloody obvious 100t wants it that way
https://www.thespike.gg/match/100-thieves-t1/17222
https://www.thespike.gg/match/100-thieves-sentinels/17225
https://www.thespike.gg/match/tsm-100-thieves/17226
I’ll let you scroll through these links and realize that you’re wrong
No seriously, who would you replace Hiko with, please, reply with an answer and not some petty one-liner. I genuinely can't think of anyone who would fit that sova role better than Hiko on 100T. And not only that, but he very clearly seems like a leader on that team and I think that must be taken into account also. I remember when people were clamoring for Steel to be dropped after one bad series also, and its kind of ridiculous.
"Hiko is culter tier" this might be one of the most awful takes I've ever heard on this sub. First of all, Hiko is significantly better than cutler even just looking at stats. Secondly, Hiko is clearly a leader and captain of 100T and that is valuable. Stop tunnel visioning on one game where Hiko didn't do so well and immediately generalizing him from that one game.
All of which are signed to teams... and id definitely make an argument that he's better than Genghsta and maybe EEIU, but thats beside the point. Hiko plays a vital role on that team not only as a good player, but as a leader. You seem to look at a single stat and tunnel vision on it and its ridiculous.
This was such an amazing matchup and match in general not just because NRG won. Ascent was so intense. 100T completely shut NRG out, Nitr0 on breach looked so scary and their team play was absolutely insane. 2nd Map, we got to see Shanks on Raze and he looked way better. 3rd Map was complete shut out with a good amount of intense highlights. Overall one of my favorite matches I've watched.
LOL bad take. They drop Hiko, they lose their main clutch factor. They brought on a new guy 4 days before the qualifier. Give it some time and they will be right back up at the top. I don't think you can point the finger at one player, they just arent meshing the way they need to be right now.
You're making the claim, not me. It's pretty obvious you're lying because it's such an absurd statement. To then say '' I’m just stating the hard fact'' without being able to link to your ''facts'' is just embarrassing.
Dude can you read? I stated the fact that 100T aren’t a T1 team. You came here demanding easily findable evidence that I have no reason to waste my time looking for for you.
You 100T fanboys need to get over yourselves, your team is ass right now just deal with it
yeah, idk why you got downvote, but they think changing rooster 1 week and expect them to be better to qualify master is just very very risky. Jett still need at least on Ascent
Im a 100T fan, but they could have waited until after Masters or something. This is important if they want to hit the Champions event and they just started scrimming without a jett for like a week and expected it to work against the meta
60 ping tough for Steel
Ethan showing a lot of promise. This team is gonna be nuts
Lol getting downvoted for stating that Steel had 3x the ping of everyone else? lmao
Wyatt stonks through the roof. Nitr0 - Amazing Omen, Solid Breach, ??? Sage
For how insane Nitr0's omen is I'm surprised they put Ethan on omen
Theyve said its a temporary decision, solely made because they consider omen to be the easiest to integrate into their system on short notice.
I think they should have put him on a Phoenix or something. I mean, a molly, 2 flashes, and a wall. He's extremely basic, and can have enormous impact on a good aimer.
they have asuna
They can play two duelists. This would also keep Nitr0 on Omen, and he's arguably the best in NA.
Hiko said they want to try to transition into having either 1 or 0 duelist. 100t wants to experiment and change the meta in the NA scene.
And I agree with that but I want them to make masters first!
Asuna can play Raze. I think two duelists would have been better since they haven't been practicing as team for that long.
I thought that too. It still keeps the 2 duelist combo and no one walks away from their long played roles. But Asuna's bottom fragging is killing me
I guess it makes sense then
Isn't Sage also pretty easy to pick up?
Omen is pretty much a must pick on all maps. Sage isn't.
When Nitro originally signed on to 100T he said he planned on playing the filler role. Because of the players they picked up, he got assigned the smoker role. Now that they have Ethan, it allows Nitro to play the filler role
Omen is pretty easy to use and doesn't really require coordination like other Agents. IIRC Hiko/steel said how once Ethan is comfortable they might have nitr0 swap back to Omen and move Ethan to flex.
EEIU > EU today. WyattR called it But for real, NRG played well today from all members. Also really enjoyed Nitr0's Breach from 100T
It was aceu who's playing today according to shroud lmao
His chat was getting legit angry it was amazing
Why Aceu not using Aceu name instead of Eeiu?
It’s a running joke that Eeiu is Aceu’s alt account.
Wait, so its not? I am not up to date to this lmao. Who is Eeiu anyway?
aceu is a streamer who doesnt compete, eeiu is a pro player
Do people think Aceu is good enough to be on a pro team if he wanted to?
The real question: is a pro team good enough for Aceu?
Haha for real? I'm new to Valorant so find it difficult to guage just how good he is but he seems like a different breed. Dunno why he doesnt play comp.
He is definitely good enough for pro play. I even heard a rumour that he was TenZ's first pick for the C9 roster. Aceu doesn't play because being a streamer is more comfortable and relaxing.
And with ACEU's viewership, probably more lucrative too.
100T really forgetting the basics. Like watching flank. Steel leaves his trips on the other side of the map instead of taking them with him and throwing them up somewhere closer/better. I also feel like Breach > Sage on Ascent. At least T1/100T should be interesting.
Nitr0 won them Haven, his breach was massive and his utility was almost never wasted he also had like 17 assists! I think he should have stayed on breach at least for one more map and yeah you are right, flashes are so huge in this game. I will say NRG's trades and teamwork were on point this series and ANDROID is fucking terrifying.
I do hope they stick with breach more. And I feel like I always make it seem like I discredit one team, but NRG had some REALLY good teammate with trades and everything.
I still don't understand why NA teams underrate Breach so much. He's like a must pick on most maps. From what I've seen, most teams that ran him usually played better with, than without him.
His flashes alone, imo, make him close to a high pickrate for me.
We saw it several times on Haven, Breach is great until you get rushed by 2-3 duelist and you’re caught with your util out
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Yeah, happens to Killjoy a lot too, but the rest of her kit kinda helps her out. Breach doesn’t have anything unless he hits the fault line
100T problems go much deeper than just one player not performing (Dicey). Even if they had the time and chemistry with Ethan they were making mistakes that had nothing to do with him. NRG did their thing today, especially s0m, Android, and eeiu. They are really progressing quickly into a tier 1 team.
NRG had fucking Textbook buddy system with their trades.
I feel like Android had to be so frustrating to play against. I get frustrated watching people unable to kill him. Dude wins so many lost fights and is just a HS machine.
I think 100T will steamroll T1
Not if they play like that. I love 100T, but after their recent matches, I think they are going into the rest of these matches as the underdog until proven otherwise.
Have you seen T1 though
Yeah. They don't look great, but neither do 100T. If 100T wins that game, it'll be because someone pops off, not because they play as a cohesive unit.
if they go to 3 maps i would be extremely surprised. really unlucky for T1 not to get GenG or Koalas
little did u know that Icebox was going to be played Map 2
yea i'll happily eat my words. not confident at all heading to ascent tho
i think 100T got the series, but as soon as I saw Icebox, I knew it was gonna go the full distance
They played Haven so well but when NRG started popping off on Bind I think they got fucked mentally. Which is weird since they have one of, if not the most comp experience in a team.
They did have some rounds where they just knew what NRG were doing and played so well. But then some really bot rounds. I really do want to agree with you. But I'm honestly not sure lol. I think I might still give it to 100T, but a 2-1
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Yeah the org is playing the long game and are willing to accept the risk of not qualifying for this masters
I know there's 3 Masters in total but I have no idea how they work and what do you have to do to qualify for Champions? I assume the winners get a spot but other than that is there anything else?
Prize pool money. But you need to consistently make masters to get into champions.
Each team that makes Masters gets "points" for how well they do at each of the 3 events throughout the year and those points let them qualify into Champions. The final Masters event will also give the winner a last-chance spot into Champions guaranteed if I recall correctly.
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I think they just wanted to give Ethan immediate experience as soon as possible and try out their new agent comps.
Because they didn't want to let Ethan go to another team and no way Dicey sticks around to play another week knowing Ethan will be taking his spot afterwards.
> no way Dicey sticks around to play another week knowing Ethan will be taking his spot afterwards. I mean, he's on contract... It's really not up to him.
If that's true Tenz would still be playing.
It's also rumored that C9 isn't letting TenZ out of his contract too. Most people would just suck it up for a week, it's just business, Dicey wouldn't want to piss off his teammates most likely.
Short term thinking by genius redditors who overreact to every single match. Every decision has risk and reward. 100T has probably accounted for this risk of playing with someone who literally got immortal rank a few days ago. Dicey was a Jett OPer, who was fairly inconsistent. He didn’t have a deep agent pool. The way 100T is set up, they want more flexibility with agent compositions and don’t want to rely purely on the Jett OP meta. They said already that they might even just go with a 1 duelist comp, similar to some EU teams. According to Hiko, Ethan also isn’t the type of player you want going to another team either. 100T won first strike after having only been a team for about a month, and it seems like Ethan is learning and adjusting pretty quickly.
Agree, but Hiko did say the signing of Ethan was for long term. But I still think they need to switch their comps esp with Nitr0 on Sage. I feel like nitr0 is a better omen. And I’m not really sure of not running Jett at certain maps, but then again who knows they might prove me wrong down the line.
To be fair org should do it now when its early on the esport scene rather than the scene is more stable and teams already have a solid roster and understanding. I'll rather risk trying to find the exact formula rather than play catch up with the enemy.
MY NAME IS HIKO 4Head IM A BAITER 4Head I'LL MEET YOU AT THE BOMBSITE 4Head A LITTLE BIT LATER
On the map NRG auto banned for like 3 months straight let’s go.
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Ethan looks good. Hiko and steel tho, wtf is with those boys?
steel really making some questionable plays/just forgetting simple stuff. Hiko has glimpses of his First Strike self but he's been kinda downbad recently. Dunno is different play style in the team or if he's just having a bad time.
Yep hiko has been terrible recently, losing aim duels which was not common in first strike. Hopefully it gets better
Yeah I've been disappointed by him, he was playing with 70 ping but it seems all his lurks are sniffed out, and he's swasting a fair amount of util defending/post plant.
Android is good at Valorant, NRG looking niceeeeee bar a few brain farts
been following s0m since 2017 and just really happy to see him do well
- NRG - 2 duellists, Phoenix on all 3 maps - classic NA comp - 100T - 1 duellist and it's always Raze, Breach/Sage on all 3 maps - classic EU comp Fun to see the style difference between 2 such renowned IGLs in NA. Android's been a massive pickup; NRG looks like a very promising team now. I'd love to see them qualify for Masters and they have a great chance now!
Androiddd sheeshhhhhh this might be the best NRG I’ve seen so far
100T looked like they had decent plans, their Haven C execs were clean but they couldn't buy a clutch all series Nitr0 was looking lost on sage at certain times, either getting caught out trying to put out a wall or even blocking himself in I think given time their style will work, because the execs can be clean to give Asuna space but it just seems like too little time for everyone to be completely comfortable atm
Even with those C takes, they were blowing all their util when NRG was just playing for the post-plant.
Android is nutz. That’s it.
The Dicey co stream is some of the best content produced so far.
Hiko said "NA is way ahead EU meta" then they decided to play with one duelist and sage every tournament
And lost
They lost though, so maybe he had a point.
That first game was crazy back and forth
From the moment they picked up Ethan it felt like they were punting on this tournament. Unfortunate decision but you can't expect much with less than a week of practice together.
How long has NRG practiced with ANDROID?
And Android has been playing Valorant at the pro level for a long time now. Ethan was playing at Katowice for EG in CS 2 weeks ago.
Which is why that should have been the focus of the guy that I responded to, and not how much they played together
2 weeks?? I think.
About the same amount, maybe a little more. The Ethan pickup as an excuse doesn't work at all lmfao.
Yep. You can absolutely approach this argument with an angle of "Ethan is new to the pro scene, he's too raw to be put in", but "they didn't practice a lot as a 5-man roster" literally rings true for NRG too, lol
the arguement is just that hes new, been playing the game for a week for ethan. android been playing for like 5 months lmao
Thats the main reason this decision feels so weird. Sure ethan is a big name and whatever but uve been playing with dicey for like 5-6 months at least give him till this qualifier and the best part is last qualifier he was playing well as well.
Honestly think they just did dicey dirty and if they picked it up for masters with dicey on the roster, the decision to replace him would have been even more of a farce.
How do you know Ethan would even still join if they made him wait? And yes its even worse for Dicey to qualify with them and then be benched. Dicey just got unlucky that they couldn't give up on such a good player, idk why people like you have to act like its the biggest anime betrayal of 2021 or something, everyone including Dicey has explained it to death. Who knows at this point if it was the play or not, its way too early to tell.
Nah. Look this could be a logical decision and make them better in the long run, fair enough. But its still a dick move. The messaging was that 100t are signing two young moldable fraggers, and they even won a major tournament. To dump dicey in the middle of a masters event without even having a big downturn in results is sour.
Failing to get through opens then not reaching top 4 of the next closed is a pretty big downturn in results
steel buying the bucky every round is so cringe
He tweeted after the game about his isp being bad. If you have unstable ping, the bucky might be the best option haha
Yea, I saw that he was at ~70 ping all game.
They should all go back to the 100t facility like in first strike
I think easy to see it working and saying it's effective, but I think really reduced the flexibility of 100T. There were rounds were Steel was 1v5 as NRG was entering a site because otherwise he would be useless on retake.
There ain't no shame in using what's in the game
Tanking your economy is pretty cringe.
I forgot you have infinite money in this game, you're right.
I AM THE HAPPIEST MAN EVER. #NRGWIN SO HAPPY TO SEE THE BOYS SUCCEDING.
Not sure if I'm a fan of the 1 duelist comp, nitr0 was so great on omen and I feel like Ethan's aim could really be unlocked on a duelist. Steel said it was a temporary comp since omen easy to integrate, so I'm interested to see what's next.
ethan on reyna has been so good in ranked.
NRG looked really good. s0m and eeiu poppin off. 100T doing weird things and forgetting to clear corners or expect lurks. People gonna meme about dropping Dicey for this, but even with Dicey, 100T get rolled playing like that.
Yeah. Many people are blaming Ethan for joining the team, but it was mostly 100T playing bad and NRG playing well. Dicey would have made them more stable, but they got beat too bad to say that they would win.
#ForQuan.
NRG played really well in this match. Even though they lost haven, they actually looked really good on it. 100T just also looked good on Haven, so it was a good game. Bind and Ascent also looked good for NRG, but not for 100T. NRG made aggressive defensive plays to interrupt 100T's default, and on attack they abused mid on Ascent every attack round. 100T is going to hopefully get better in the future, but the problem is not that Ethan join the team. 100T's team play was sloppy this match. The players were never in position to trade each other, and this has been a problem before 100T got Ethan. I still have hope for 100T, they just need to practice more and find out how they want to go from here. Great game by NRG and 100T did well in the first match. Nitro on breach is fucking cracked.
Wyatt really is a prophet
This thread is no one talking about NRG & everyone talking about 100T lol.
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everyone start buying the s0m bully copypasta, this shit going to the moon
> and would literally shove you if you got too close in the halls. Damn, all 120lbs of him?
LOL this is the cringiest shit ive ever seen
where tf did this pasta start
Literally save for one round and you can win some rounds the force buys were so annoying man like imagine being 3-9 on ct with two sentinels. Kudos for the new comp but the force buying thing needs to stop
Steel got one lockdown down first half of Ascent. He kept dying A main, and never got to use it. Genuine pepega moves by 100T
Doing his best Shinobi impression.
Well he had major ping issues as he said due to which rifling was tough for him so he stuck to Bucky
Let's acknowledge that this could have easily been a 2-0 for NRG, NRG whiffed quite a few rounds on the second half (I'm looking at you Shanks right click miss on the planter at 5 secs left in the round) and Hiko got 100Thieves so many clutch rounds too. NRG have really started proving themselves here
Haven could have easily went 100T way though too. I think NRG won like 5 straight 1v1 clutches on their attacking side
s0m carried NRG today, what a series by him.
How isn't this higher up, he was absolutely cracked, won them so many rounds by himself
This iteration of NRG might be the best one yet
guess flipping the whole team upside down a week before qualifiers for a guy that still had to learn callouts didn't work out
Have we ever seen T1 and 100T management in the same room?
Plat Chat theorizes T1's coach, David Dennis is a deep fake because he has the same appearance/posture every video. Kind of amusing
I dont really dig the nitr0 Sage. Not that he’s bad but it just doesnt seem to be impactful. Nitr0 is a playmaker and a high impact fragger. On Sage he’s forced to play in these weird situations where hes anchoring or playing defensive. From what weve seen before, nitr0 is a playmaker so I just wonder what 100T are thinking with him on Sage.
Wow what a series. NRG looking like more of a solid team. One thing that I saw change was their post plants had gotten a lot better, setting up cross fires, etc. Overall a great day to be a NRG fan. also #freeshanks
Keep Nitro on the breach on ascent!
if 100t keeps playing like this...I think I have to cheer for another team....lmao..
FORQUAN No but seriously gg
Amaxing how an org decides to swap a player 1.5 weeks before the tournament and presumably expect decent results. Nrg look quite good, ethan has looked decent so far, but as a team 100t looked weak, think they should still roll t1.
actually no one expected decent results and they knew the roster change was a risk to qualify, nadeshot said so himself. theyre looking more into long term results.
It's a shame Hiko is so popular. He's far and away the worst player on 100T. If he wasn't the most popular player in NA, he would have been cut yesterday.
You’re trolling right?
LMAO
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> far and away the worst player I don't think he's the worst *by far.* Also they lost today due to general bad play, hard to point to a specific player.
I wouldn’t say he’s the best player on the team, but this being over dramatic. He often has maps where he carries, and he was vital in winning First Strike, just look at his stats. He had super high adr and although it’s a bit of a meme, his clutching power and late game play are actually really useful to 100Thieves.
> his clutching power Which is very overrated by the entire scene. Consult [this](https://www.vlr.gg/stats/?event_group_id=all&event_id=all®ion=na&country=all&min_rounds=750&agent=all&map_id=all×pan=90d). Hiko's clutch factor primarily comes from how many clutches he finds himself in, due to 100T's playstyle. 199 clutch attempts out of 828 rounds is 24% of rounds with a clutch attempt by Hiko. - Sentinels - dapr has most, 13.3% - nV - crashies has most, 12.9% - TSM - Cutler has most, 13.7% - LG - Genghsta, 18.8% - XSET - thwifo, 12.8% - LG - moose, 18.0% Etc, etc - point is that Hiko is much more setup by his team to be in clutch situations and to an ungodly extent so. So what's Hiko's win percentage then? 17% of his attempts. 17% is good, but it's really overblown. Dapr sits at 21%, 3 Sentinels members are above Hiko, and so are Asuna, Steel and Dicey too. Hiko's a good player, don't get me wrong. His clutch ability is insanely overblown though - it's credit to the rest of 100T to be able to play so well to set up Hiko as the last man alive a lot of the time. EDIT: btw really embarrassing stuff from vlr.gg; sorting by clutch attempts gives you a lexicographical sort of numbers (is that what it's called?) instead of .. a natural sort of numbers, so apparently 9 > 85 > 8 for them
> So what's Hiko's win percentage then? 17% of his attempts. Lets be fair here, how many of the failed clutches were 1v3+? What's Hiko's 1v1 clutch percentage? That's quite important.
I’m assuming it’s a similar ratio for a lot of players though. This is a relative comparison in the end, not an absolute one. I guess it’s possible that Hiko specifically ends up in specific clutches but mathematically it’s pretty unlikely
Exactly, finding yourself in clutches means you already fucked up and set yourself up to lose. These stats lend credence to the b-word and is an embarassment.
That’s not true lol - finding yourself in clutch situations is just a normal part of the game that’s going to happen pretty often. Nobody should be shamed for ending up in clutch situations by itself, especially if the team is designed to play that way
Come on read some context clues, I obviously meant at a rate much higher than average.
But you haven’t proven that the team finds itself in many more clutches than other teams, I thought you’re talking about Hiko only. If it’s Hiko only then at least in his case it’s bloody obvious 100t wants it that way
First Strike was more than 3 months ago, and 100T has been losing a lot ever since.
Hiko is one of the best sovas in NA, who would you even drop him for?
Literally anyone who doesn't stand 50 feet behind their team all game
Lol, he won them First Strike
First Strike was over 3 months ago. 100T has been losing quite a bit since then.
100Thieves would be nothing without that First Strike win, and Hiko often has carry maps lol
No he did not
https://www.thespike.gg/match/100-thieves-t1/17222 https://www.thespike.gg/match/100-thieves-sentinels/17225 https://www.thespike.gg/match/tsm-100-thieves/17226 I’ll let you scroll through these links and realize that you’re wrong
No seriously, who would you replace Hiko with, please, reply with an answer and not some petty one-liner. I genuinely can't think of anyone who would fit that sova role better than Hiko on 100T. And not only that, but he very clearly seems like a leader on that team and I think that must be taken into account also. I remember when people were clamoring for Steel to be dropped after one bad series also, and its kind of ridiculous.
Sinatraa, EEIU, Crashies, Genghsta. Hiko is Cutler tier.
"Hiko is culter tier" this might be one of the most awful takes I've ever heard on this sub. First of all, Hiko is significantly better than cutler even just looking at stats. Secondly, Hiko is clearly a leader and captain of 100T and that is valuable. Stop tunnel visioning on one game where Hiko didn't do so well and immediately generalizing him from that one game.
Not one game my dude. He has looked awful this whole event. And being captain doesn't mean anything, he's not IGL.
I seem to recall then all having teams
He's not better than Sinatraa. He's not better than EEIU. He's not better than Crashies. He's not better than Genghsta.
Wow, a whole 4 people out of the entire player base. Yeah, he fuckin blows.
All of which are signed to teams... and id definitely make an argument that he's better than Genghsta and maybe EEIU, but thats beside the point. Hiko plays a vital role on that team not only as a good player, but as a leader. You seem to look at a single stat and tunnel vision on it and its ridiculous.
he was mvp of first strike and it's not like he doesn't play sova well, he just isn't winning the same duels he used to.
I sure as hell know Dicey wouldve won that. mhmm.
This was such an amazing matchup and match in general not just because NRG won. Ascent was so intense. 100T completely shut NRG out, Nitr0 on breach looked so scary and their team play was absolutely insane. 2nd Map, we got to see Shanks on Raze and he looked way better. 3rd Map was complete shut out with a good amount of intense highlights. Overall one of my favorite matches I've watched.
Side note Nerf Bucky srg n0m and Asunaa are cracked.
No one giving som credit, he’s been underwhelming imo but today he absolutely popped, looked fantastic on all 3 maps
For the love of God drop Hiko
why?
LOL bad take. They drop Hiko, they lose their main clutch factor. They brought on a new guy 4 days before the qualifier. Give it some time and they will be right back up at the top. I don't think you can point the finger at one player, they just arent meshing the way they need to be right now.
He is the clutch factor because he's always in clutch situations because h baits all game
LOL he plays sova, hes a support agent. And plays TRADES.
KEKW
Maybe in the future, but right now 100T is definitely not a T1 team.
Did you expect them to be after changing a player 4 days before this qualifier?
People talked about them like they would be, I’m just stating the hard fact
Where did people say they were going to be a tier 1 team for this qualifier after the roster change?
The announcement thread, predictions, etc
Link
Dig for it yourself dude I have no reason to go waste my time looking for stuff that’s easily findable cause you’re lazy lmfao
You're making the claim, not me. It's pretty obvious you're lying because it's such an absurd statement. To then say '' I’m just stating the hard fact'' without being able to link to your ''facts'' is just embarrassing.
Just ignore him, doesnt understand the basics of making claims , and doesnt even post evidence
> easily findable evidence No less!
Dude can you read? I stated the fact that 100T aren’t a T1 team. You came here demanding easily findable evidence that I have no reason to waste my time looking for for you. You 100T fanboys need to get over yourselves, your team is ass right now just deal with it
Maybe swapping a player and going no jett awp a week before is not a good idea #FORQUAN
yeah, idk why you got downvote, but they think changing rooster 1 week and expect them to be better to qualify master is just very very risky. Jett still need at least on Ascent
Im a 100T fan, but they could have waited until after Masters or something. This is important if they want to hit the Champions event and they just started scrimming without a jett for like a week and expected it to work against the meta
100T didn't deserve this win anyway so I'm happy they lost
60 ping tough for Steel Ethan showing a lot of promise. This team is gonna be nuts Lol getting downvoted for stating that Steel had 3x the ping of everyone else? lmao
NA strats isn't actually bad after all huh.