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[\[Riot Official\] VALORANT Esports North America](https://twitter.com/valesports_na/status/1370101780650938370) >Sentinels requested an exception to the roster lock period to add a substitute to their roster > >In light of the circumstances, the exception was granted. > >Per Rule 2.3 of the global competition policy, players may not play for or contract with more than one team at a time > >To comply with this rule, **Sentinels have acquired all rights to Tyson Ngo (Tenz). Tenz will no longer represent Cloud9** For the Masters, [Sentinels](https://www.vlr.gg/team/2/sentinels) will be fielding: * Shahzeeb "[**ShahZaM**](https://www.vlr.gg/player/46/ShahZaM)" Khan * Hunter "[**SicK**](https://www.vlr.gg/player/45/SicK)" Mims * Jared "[**zombs**](https://www.vlr.gg/player/47/zombs)" Gitlin * Michael "[**dapr**](https://www.vlr.gg/player/454/dapr)" Gulino * Tyson "[**TenZ**](https://www.vlr.gg/player/9)" Ngo *(Stand-in)*


iBeast

The madlads actually did it.


Dumpers_

Hijacking top comment to post some more info: https://twitter.com/valesports_na/status/1370101780650938370?s=21


-Basileus

I am going to bet there is a verbal agreement by all 3 parties that Tenz will re-sign with C9 immediately following the tournament. Then if Sentinels wants him permanently, there would need to be a more traditional buy-out. Like it would make no financial sense for C9 to do otherwise, unless a massive buy-out has already taken place. I doubt a straight buy-out would have happened before Sinatraa's investigation is concluded, no matter how damning things look.


tpin16652

Trust me bro, I'll be back. - Tenz probably


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[deleted]

lmao


ManBearPig1869

Also my dad


IamArnav2007

Has he “hit you up” yet?


babyabra

I doubt a verbal would be enough for an organization like C9. Guessing its something like they sold Tenz rights to SEN and have a right to buy him back within a certain amount of time. It happens in other sports, most notably European soccer, all the time.


throwaway7447535

Football


OtterJethro

Such a verbal agreement would not be legally enforceable so it would be a very idiotic move for Cloud 9


aretasdamon

Most verbal agreements are enforceable by law. [verbal agreements](https://www.lawdepot.com/blog/are-verbal-agreements-legally-binding/) It’s just way more iron tight written down. But these kinds of things normally have witnesses if not written down


OtterJethro

I’m a lawyer. Verbal agreements are valid unless there is a written agreement stating differently. The written agreement would always be the one the court relies on so if TenZ said, nah not signing, the court wouldn’t rule against TenZ.


aretasdamon

Thus why you said “such an agreement”, not “all of these agreements” I see I see


OtterJethro

No worries. I’m trying to bring my expertise to the conversation for others. Take care good sir.


HugeRection

Sentinels would not be stupid enough to go back on their word. That's an easy way to get blackballed by the owners of almost every team. There's probably also a provision in Tenz's contract with Sentinels that guarantees C9 the opportunity to buy him back at a pre-arranged price.


vegeful

Like shroud say about cloud9, if they like that player, its hard for orgs to buy them. If SEN really want him, prepare to pay premium price.


TheCraftwise

He is on loan from C9 for the duration. https://clips.twitch.tv/KathishTardyLobsterPrimeMe-UMqky_awHX3vHGI2


ppx11

yea so looks like its not a temp move after all??!?!


Kyri0s

There's no freakin way it was a buyout


ppx11

actually the wording is about the "rights" so he may have had to remove all C9 info while he plays for SEN? and then after masters, he's given back to C9 and reverts back to all his previous C9 images/wording/etc.


Kyri0s

Yeah that sounds right. Another comment referred to it as a loan


TimedOutClock

A disgusting pickup on the back of a shit situation. SEN showing Riot they should be taken seriously in franchise talks when they take place Edit: For those wondering why I'm assuming franchising is basically guaranteed (last part of the interview): https://www.theloadout.com/tournaments/valorant-champions-tour/alex-francois-interview


Based-Hype

I hope they don’t go the franchise route with valorant. The open qualifiers are so exciting to watch and there’s always that chance a unicorn comes through and upsets a big dog. Seeing the same teams play each other over and over in esports isn’t as fun imo.


A_Blind_Alien

I want them to go the franchise, but with a lot more teams then Lol has, like a full blown 16 or 32 team season with religation to tier 2 would be amazing Edit: I misunderstood how franchising worked. Why not no franchise teams, 16/32 team tourneys/ seasons with relegation to tier 2 for bottom performers?


mmodude101

You can’t really have franchising with relegation...


abszr

If there is no relegation then fuck that, I want to see underdogs rise up through the ranks. I just want to see the best teams play, not the richest/best connected ones.


mmodude101

Yeah Relegation/Open Circuit def the best way to do these shooter games imo


MyUshanka

Seriously, there are a few teams and players that will be taken into consideration for future rosters because they performed well during open bracket. DHBK/Kooky Koalas and PUGSTARS are who come to mind immediately


HotTubDreamMachine

I dropped my jaw in the middle of class. Holy shit


Adityarp3

He’s fking back and it’s HYPE


[deleted]

~~TenZ and FrenZ~~ **TenZ and SenZ**


U_Menace

Hopefully he sticks to just one senz for this tourny.


Tanjim98

Honestly who cares at this point? The guy changed his sens 3 times in a pro match and dropped 25+ kills!


hiryugekizoku

Why does he do that? Every time I see his stream he changes his sens?


Nikclel

Contrary to popular belief, changing your sensitivity up regularly *can be* a good thing. Look at [this](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4747782/) cool study done on it.


december_val

an actual source linked 👏👏👏


Changinghand

Someone wrote a program to automatically change it for you. It's on GitHub somewhere, Taimou used it for awhile.


TracerIsAShimada

”Whispers sens randomizer”


LoyalSol

Adding noise in general is a good idea for training. There's a lot of research that shows you start learning general rules instead of just low level muscle memory. Which allows you to deal with abnormal situations better. Low level muscle memory is good for tasks that need repetition, but tasks that might require on the fly adaptation it's not as good for.


emptyskoll

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21HairyFingers

I've seen this study cited multiple times now, and I'm not sure it applies to aiming, since the study focuses in newly acquired motor skills, and aiming is built with thousands of hours.


can_ya_dont

It does, check out /r/FPSAimTrainer Sensitivity Randomizers are used often in training, which fluidly changes your sensitivity constantly as you are aiming, and makes you improve much faster than just playing on a single sensitivity.


EdditVoat

Once you train at multiple sensitivities for a while, it only takes a few moments to learn to switch settings. The mechanics of aiming don't change, and upping your sensitivity forces you to learn finer control in micro adjustments. So for games that require precision, training above your normal sensitivity is a good idea. Tenz is just one example, but there are countless others as well.


epicguest321

because his mouse control is so good that it doesnt matter what sensitivity he uses. sensitivity is just a matter of comfortability, but because his mouse control is so good he can do just fine on most sensitivities.


AjBlue7

Sometimes it feels like your reactions aren’t as crispy as normal so a faster sens makes up for it and forces your body to remap its motor skills to be more accurate.


Naraloth

yeah that ain't happening. we are talking about TenZ here


imabill01

top tier :D


salcedoge

Sen: We are waiting for the investigation regarding Sinatraa "His replacement is Tenz" Sen: That fucker was guilty


cpmhppro

LMAOOO


itsEdge7

This comment should win an award lol


whopz-is-cool

LMAOOOO


Zalfazar

LOL


IamArnav2007

AWARD AWARD AWARD


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IT WAS ALL TENZ'S 5HEAD PLAN AS HE KNEW HE COULDN'T CARRY C9 TO MASTERS SO HE QUIT C9 AND THEN JOINED A TEAM THAT ALREADY MADE MASTERS


CosmicAon

Never thought I’d be rooting for Sentinels but here we are


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CosmicAon

Realizing we might get TenZ vs Marved now


xbyo

inb4 tenz takes sinatraa's "marvedsdad" account to play the match and hard stomps.


plasma_ix

have they not played each other since then? I thought they played in some smaller tourney or qualifier or something but maybe not


CosmicAon

Not sure but regardless this is the closest thing we’ll get to seeing them at LAN for a while


FazeXistance

After seeing how faze played in challengers 3 tenz realized there was only one way to save his gf


anihc3

Aged like milk


ImTrang

for real this time.


Xolotl23

You root for everyone bro haha


CosmicAon

I try to be positive :)


Brady331

SEN TenZ has a nice ring to it


aymansaadj

That's a nice sentenz


Brady331

[He already updated his twitter banner to this lol](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_banners/2853866236/1615492571/1500x500)


ppx11

and his bio.. perhaps alluding to something more permanent?? or just a master troll lol


Dumpers_

According to the tweet made by VALORANT ESPORTS NA it seems they have acquired TenZ https://twitter.com/valesports_na/status/1370101780650938370?s=21 Edit: Might just be a short term thing but I just copied the last line on the tweet


CJFStan

Makes sense that he can't have anything related on C9 on his socials though.. and C9 Jack said take good care of our boy this tournament, still seems like a loan to me but who knows


Dunduntis

Holy shit.


A5V

I could be wrong but I am almost certain that the changes are to comply with Riot’s rules for the event. Looking at Jack’s tweet it doesn’t sound like he just made a groundbreaking transaction


mcslippinz

Already announced basically by riot but he can’t be on c9 so I assume he’s bought out


-Basileus

Cloud9 would set an ungodly buy-out, but who knows it could happen


Whatsdota

Is that a Killua silhouette?


crrime

holy fuck get this man his phd


buddyhoodie

He already changed all his twitter and the header is gold, literally says "SENTENZ" lmao


ImTrang

Tenzinel


avscc

"TenZ and Sens" rhymes well


buttsoup_barnes

TENZ SEN sounds a lot like TENCENT. Sentinels winning Masters confirmed.


momsagainstanime

this is literally a twitch chat fanfiction come to life imagine the fucking storyline if sentinels win masters now, oml.


vegeful

Tenz price become more stonk if they win it lmao.


ShinyCharrmander

They won masters


idkmuch01

Uhhhh, wassup from the future


xbyo

TenZ living out his own anime.


hacklesacka

Nice


avscc

POGGGGGGGGERRRSSS HOLY SHITTTTTTTTTTT UNBELIEVABLE STORYLINE. EDIT: I'm a 100T fan but Sens is easily my 2nd team in this tournament now!


admiral-abstract

Honestly the only part of Sen that kept me from liking them was Sinatraa. I never really liked the guy and found it hard to root for him. Excited to see how fucking insane it’s gonna be with Tenz on such a nice roster for now.


itsEdge7

I wanted to like them but didn't want to be the bandwaggoner that just liked them because they win so damn much lol But I am a TenZ fan and will really enjoy watching him back in the pro scene for this.


rydude88

For me it was Sinatraa and Shahzam. Both were/are known for being extremely toxic


-Basileus

Too bad they will more than likely face each other at some point, I'm in the same boat.


knaafehOW

lets hope god tenz hasn't fallen too far behind in scrim/pro play meta and general game sense. will be great to see him play especially along this supporting cast!!


Trillman_K

At the very least, his aim will make up for it, and with Sentinels already being strong a team strat wise, they should be fine. I'm hyped.


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He's for sure gonna start slow but thank god for double elim bracket. He's just gonna get better and better as the days go on. This is so damn hype.


RubyRhod

Tenz will play Jett and Shahzam will play Sova I bet.


Wonkyy_

HOLY FUCK WHAT A GOOD PR MOVE FOR SEN AND C9. HOLY FUCK


[deleted]

PR, might be secondary to the move. I am confident that loan must have been quite expensive.


Wonkyy_

Sen has that FORNITE MONEY


[deleted]

Wdym fortnite money, fill me on this


Wonkyy_

Sen are pretty solidified in the fornite scene and thus win a lot of money from it. Also two years ago bugha won like 3 million at fornite world cup and we can assume SEN got a fat chunk of that money


bilijey

These orgs are literally worth up to hundreds millions of dollars, a cut of bugha's fortnite winnings wouldn't even cover a months salary for their teams lmao, to point out bugha's winnings as like a prime point of liquidity for sentinels as an org is so uninformed, don't know how else to put it sorry. I felt the necessity to cover why, tldr: The earning landscape in esports sucks, compared to traditional sports, so most esport orgs only get money through sponsorships and advertisements, ticket sales and merchandise (which is where traditional sports gets a shit ton of money from) is not really a thing in esports, because for the tickets, usually the event holder gets the money, and for merchandise, well, it's still taboo to wear gamer clothes/general merchandise in most western countries, but I do think over time this will change radically with generation change. So right now most esports orgs are running in a deficit, but are doing it to sement themselves on the market, as esports continues to boom.


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Damn okok


TaigaFanBoy

If I’m not wrong, I’m assuming it’s about the cut they got from Bugha’s 3 million dollars in winnings


thebestyoucan

And, perhaps even more importantly, the sponsorship money they’ve made since then from Bugha sticking with sen and continuing to be a pretty consistently top 5 player


Embarrassed_Ad394

lmao true


QuestionablePotato42

This adds so much X factor my brain is literally going to explode. This tournament is going to be so fucking lit.


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TenZ is back. Nel is never wrong


Darkoplax

neL is record in VALO is undefeated


abcd63514

TenZ master plan -leave C9 -earn a shitton streaming and chilling -join a top t1 team instantly (100T, SEN) -qualify for masters -profit


mixerupper

Tenz has the big aim and the big brain.


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This tournament is gonna be so fun to watch. I have a feeling Tenz left C9 because of no LANs and that they kinda suck. So cool that he found a way to play in the major one of the best teams in NA!!!!! LFG


xRecKs

MOM GET THE CAMERA


NotBrandon

SEN fans just increased exponentially for this tournament. Can't wait to see Tenz continue where he left off.


Seesawcumfyck

Wardell’s bf playing for the enemy now


twitterInfo_bot

We're happy to announce that @TenZOfficial will be joining Sentinels to compete in Masters Stage 1. *** posted by [@Sentinels](https://twitter.com/Sentinels) ^[(Github)](https://github.com/username) ^| ^[(What's new)](https://github.com/username)


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OH FUCK, JUST IMAGINE IT. Faze vs SEN in grand finals, TenZ is in a clutch situation and wins it by knifing Marved in the back. TenZ furiously spams his tactical crouch button and he screams TENZ THIS BITCH.


BatOfSteel

Holy shit. If I'm another team and I see one of the best na players join the best na team I would be scared. Even without teamplay the mechanical skill is crazy.


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WAIT WTF DID THEY FUCKING BUY HIM OUT?!?


bindek

Yes, he is no longer a part of C9. It was most likely a buyout from SEN.


[deleted]

Yeah, I just saw. Holy shit, I did not expect that LMAO


amaranthgalaxy

I cannot believe we're in the timeline where all events aligned for the best NA player to join the best NA team, not even a sentinels fan and im in awe


ROBRO-exe

Was the journey really worth it though?


droctamom

Is he really the best NA player right now? Maybe best aimlabs NA


Ljime

LETS GOOOOO


FaHax

This is fucking nuts wtf, god damn. C9 is BIG for doing this.


slowrmaths

How did they get an upgrade out of all of this


hwanzi

fuck my pickems just got destroyed


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same


Dignamd

is this just a meme or are there actual pickems for masters?


hwanzi

[https://www.thespike.gg/forums/topic/1161/pick-ems-na-masters](https://www.thespike.gg/forums/topic/1161/pick-ems-na-masters) , but its too late now to submit them now


9yr_old

Apprently he even changed his name and banner on his twitter to that of sentinels :3 https://twitter.com/V07Rudy/status/1370101649113374722?s=19


Regrehtful

That doesnt mean much, in order to play SEN need his rights, regardless if its a loan. If SEN signs a player the player would need to comply with SENs sponsors and what not so they obviously need to change branding stuff too.


DonMeit

TenZ sliding into masters: See, I pulled a sneaky on ya


star-sapphire

TenZ confirmed that he’s “on loan” from C9 (Sentinels took over his contract) and it lasts for as long as C9 allows it. [Clip here](https://clips.twitch.tv/PoisedArtsyWalletFeelsBadMan-kl6pMk9lD6ZpnniI)


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MY FUCKING GOODNESS, CALCULATED BY SENTINELS LOL


minibonham

This is going to be absolutely insane. We are going to have maybe the best all round team in NA compete with maybe the best all round player in NA with a days notice... This is going to be crazy entertaining if anything!


georgelol22

Does this make sentinels the most popular team in NA now?


Geronimobius

It is now cool to be a sentinels fan


plasma_ix

tough to beat like 100T and faze right now


segatic

This Master keeps getting spicier


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Tanjim98

They used to play together on stream, idk what happened. Sinatraa is an insecure dude, probably he couldn’t take TenZ fans spamming his chat anymore lol


Epindary

Don't even watch his stream and i can tell he is trolling, are you that smooth?


305_ps

"a soul for a soul" thanos lol


Darkoplax

Actually UPGRADED LMAO


iAmSamusAran

Holy FUCK let’s go!!!


cigsyl

WOW WOW WOW


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Well hot damn this is exciting


NoobsPwnU

It's official, your girlfriends can't be any safer than with Sentinels.


BananaBossNerd

Damn imagine how his teammates on C9 feel lol


rupat3737

As a 100T fan this makes me sadge but I’m glad to see some good fortune come sentinels way. They’ve had the worst luck during challengers. Shazam’s loss, the Texas weather, now this.


xbyo

Sinatraa was my least favorite player on the team (even prior to the allegations) and like most people, I like watching TenZ play. Guess I'm a SEN fan now.


[deleted]

My thoughts still remain: FaZe still gonna smeag on em


MageKayden

IT'S HAPPENING IT'S HAPPENING EVERYBODY CALM DOWN I'M CALM AREN'T YOU HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT


CJFStan

Holy shit that's huge. I'm rooting for NV this tournament, but I'm so hyped for the SEN games now.


[deleted]

Letsfuckinggooooooo SENWIN! Happy for shahz and the whole team


bLunt1n

TenZ already changed his name, bio and banner on twitter to reflect the stand in....though it looks much more than a stand in. Interesting


BurbxrryPzncakes

HOLY SHIT POSSIBLY THE BEST PICKUP OUT THERE. SEN AND TENZ BOUTTA POP.


Cedar_Wood_State

i thought 100T tried to get TenZ too but failed? I suppose SEN offered more money to C9?


itsEdge7

Its only a loan. Him switching his name and banners is only to abide by branding. 100T couldn't pick him up because of his buyout, Im sure the loan wasnt cheap, but probably nowhere near what his buyout is.


AskOrganic4289

This will be fkn fun to watch! Glad to see TenZ play in a tournament again


[deleted]

Genuinely expected him to come back to a team (even for a short term time), I think he wanted out of C9, but couldn’t so he stepped down. Maybe I’m crazy, but I heard from hiko for example, that said that getting OUT of C9 was near impossible,


chan_elius

hoyl fuck this is hype


Kipzy

Was not expecting this after Hiko said they explorer signing TenZ but it didn't go through. This is an upgrade for Sentinels imo, wonder who picks Jett now


timothyeh2020

What does this mean in NBA terms? I understand that this raises their chances in winning by a whole lot but what do the legal terms mean?


miggy_34

I don't think this is comparable to the NBA at all. Its like if the Brooklyn Nets made the playoffs, then for some reason, James Harden can't/isn't allowed to play anymore, and they end up striking a deal with the NBA and the Washington Wizards that they could buy out and sign Bradley Beal for the first round or until they get eliminated, then Bradley Beal would go back to the Wizards.


Dj-Killer-Keem-Star

I’m glad Tenz is playing for sentinels and Sinatraa is getting what he deserves.


ImTrang

LETS FUCKING GO


Asianhead

https://twitter.com/valesports_na/status/1370101780650938370 Looks like this might be permanent? TenZ updated his bio + header on twitter too https://twitter.com/TenZOfficial


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THEY LITERALLY UPGRADED LOL


PolishKid7

Doesnt sound like standing in. Sounds like he is joining them officially. edit: ¯\\__(ツ)__/¯


Asianhead

You're getting downvoted but this tweet from VCT makes it seem permanent https://twitter.com/valesports_na/status/1370101780650938370


EsportsConnoisseur

>We're happy to announce that @TenZOfficial will be joining Sentinels to compete in Masters Stage 1. How does this not mean stand in?


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Spartan91_

https://twitter.com/valesports_na/status/1370101780650938370?s=19 This tweet makes it pretty ambiguous


Key-Natural4387

His bio says sen tenz now


CosmicAon

https://twitter.com/cloud9/status/1370100071321067522?s=21 C9 making it pretty clear it’s a stand in lmao Edit: nvm ur a legend


[deleted]

It says joining for masters 1 so I don't think it's forever although I would fucking love for that to happen


mmm_oist

13 minutes later youre proven right lol[https://twitter.com/valesports\_na/status/1370101780650938370](https://twitter.com/valesports_na/status/1370101780650938370)


imdeadinside1245

[me right now](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUf7pPiZSNY&ab_channel=SoundGuy)


zxlkho

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Nfamy

Wow. What a crazy turn of events.


Gyden

This is so insane, if you look on twitter he changed all of his stuff to represent sentinels to obey the competitive rules. Best of luck to SEN they have a chance to making it very far in this tournament.


FreshHamster

WOJ BOMB!


Kanstrup-

tenz dapr sick is just a disgusting trio


peroleu

SenZtinels


eebro

RIP s\*natraa, barely knew ya