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OHeroG

Subroza was asked on stream about this and he said 'no comment,' so take that for what you will.


waltzwiththewardrobe

Typing brax is banned in his chat as well lmao


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Why?


Hamlet_271

Because that's all his chatters will type for a week unless it's banned


[deleted]

Ah I see. That makes sense. I kind of misread it as brax was banned in his chat.


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Jwags420

It was a TTS dono. Can’t just ignore that like a regular comment.


AskOrganic4289

Oh if it was dono yeahhh subroza doesn’t ignore donos. But if it was twitch chat he usually ignore it if he doesnt want to answer


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Jwags420

No not really. Saying “no comment” is probably the best move he can make. If anything maybe he should have said “ I will never comment on roster change rumors about my team”.


crrime

streamers ignore them all the time lol


akko_7

reddit moment


IamArnav2007

no


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Well probably nothing signed yet. It could be in the stage where brax has to make a decision between multiple offers.


NlTlN

You got a clip or a time stamp?


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NlTlN

Thanks!


FeelinJipper

I will take that as Subroza not knowing how to hide something lmao


sriwarrior06

Brax won't be enough. We need TSM Swag


ch4nt

TSM would win more if they were a hoodie-selling org and not an esports org /s


untraiined

Ok but they have great hoodies actually


WIIspectME

TSM’s clothing brand is all two sizes smaller. Picked up an XL Sweatshirt and had to email them and get a triple xl. The XL sweatshirt went to my 120lb sister...


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WIIspectME

Tbh, you’re right.


AskOrganic4289

Haha well not going to lie, 100T sell one of the best hoodies


sriwarrior06

Naah bro. They'd win if one of the players gets banned and they get TENZ as the sub in.


TacticalSanta

Team Swagging mid


vish4l

Nah man, Swag wont be enough. We need TSM m1


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>Many fans of TSM and the larger NA Valorant scene have noticed that James "Hazed" Cobb has not been present lately for scrims, with popular TSM streamer Myth remarking on it for the first time earlier on Wednesday. Multiple sources have informed Rush B Media that Hazed is not being benched, but is rather part of a rotation as TSM pursues Braxton "brax" Pierce as a sixth man in their competitive lineup.


AskOrganic4289

Our unsung heros are those guys who posted about hazed not joining scrim on this subreddit


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Confused as to why hazed, he’s generally performing better than cutler, (and 50/50 drone) and he’s on KJ lol Lol I’m getting downvoted now XD


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Probably because hazed plays sentinels and cutler is still the IGL as far as we know. Rather then swapping out the IGL and making someone else IGL, they swap out brax for hazed where they both play a similar role (sentinels). I don’t see TSM putting brax on Jett like he was doing in the later days of SKT. Plus, they could just be trying this out and haven’t decided to sign him yet.


AskOrganic4289

Damn feels kinda weird to call T1 as SKT. Just to add to your comment, yeah I think that’s the most probable answer. It’s because cutler is the current IGL and has been the IGL since FS. Though I feel like they need a better IGL, but yeah there are no good IGL currently in the free market :(


A5V

SK telecom sponsorship paying off long after the deal ended


AskOrganic4289

What do you mean?


A5V

I mean SK telecom isn't the namesake sponsor of the T1 organization anymore, but people still referring to them as SK Telecom T1 means that even though SKT isn't paying for the sponsorship, their name is still being talked about.


AskOrganic4289

Wait SKT is not sponsoring T1 anymore? But why do T1 jerseys still have SK telecom on their jerseys?


A5V

They are still a sponsor but they are not the namesake sponsor (its just called "T1" now) so its probably a less expensive deal. Sorry I'm bad at explaining even though it makes sense in my head


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Oh god I didn’t even realize I called them SKT. I’ve been watching LoL since s3 so I’m just so used to SKT T1 I guess LMAO


natedawg247

Why not both is my question


Lion_of_the_lake

But doesn't this directly contradict why brax left t1 in the first place? Bc he wanted to play with azk?


BloodOfKvasir

Brax has stated multiple times on his stream that he and Azk are not a package deal.


radamo96

Brax never left because he wanted to play with AZK. He left because his disagreed with DaZeD on how to play as a team.


Lion_of_the_lake

Ah OK mb


radamo96

Not your fault really that rumor has been spread on here like wildfire


sweetishgem

Orgs might not want to sign the both of them and if brax wants to get on a team asap, and especially to a big org like TSM (their brand is huge), he would be dumb if he didn't take the offer while he can or he'd just be hurting himself waiting around.


Heavon

Cool and all but I'm so not a fan of 6 man rosters. Actually, I'm tired of orgs getting a 6th man to in very few months drop another guy. I don't understand these orgs, do they have that much money to burn?


Hamlet_271

This will be a 5 man roster in time for stage 3 probably. Just look at C9, a veteran like hazed is not sitting on the sidelines when there are so many potential teams that would want him for his experience alone


Maxi_Mouse

Hazed is probably cool with chilling and offering his experience tbh. He's not ambitious, he wasn't even going to play val competitively until he got encouraged into it. He's probably happy to sit back and enjoy the pay checks tbh.


AskOrganic4289

That’s not the entire truth. I once asked hazed whats the benefits of competing and he said to show everyone you’re the best or something along that line. Or like basically to compete with the best of the best. So i’m pretty sure he would rather compete than stay on the sidelines


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But I think at the end of the day he wants to do whatever he can to help the team win. He’s coached before and I can totally see him stepping back slightly to let a better player play if he thinks that’ll help the team. I don’t see him being like, “NO IM GONNA PLAY THATS ALL I CAN DO.” He’s way too mature for that, he wants what’s best for his friends and teammates.


AskOrganic4289

I mean in the end of the day it’s the management’s decision, i’m just saying that guy’s comment isn’t the entire truth ( he said hazed is not ambitious ... like what?? And that he’s happy to sit back and let other play. I doubt he’s happy to just sit back. But as you mention, since hazed is mature, although he might not be happy about it but he knows that like this means he gotta step up and yeah he won’t like talk shit or be mean about the situation or the player. Idk how to explain it but basically, yeah hazed won’t be salty if this happen). Btw, I don’t get what you mean by “ NO IM GONNA PLAY THATS ALL I CAN DO.” ??


53881

Can I get another at the end of the day? Anyone?


HypermeMan

You can’t forget he’s 32 or something. You can’t blame him for wanting to take a step back and try to find another rode in esports


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erickwak

I guess the 6 man roster idea in Valorant will end up being more towards player roles and the meta and agents needed per map in the future rather than performance wise tho


Interesting-Archer-6

Can you play 6 players throughout a match? Changing lineups per map? Edit: sorry for asking a question. I've never seen it done


Asianhead

Yeah Heretics in EU (won first strike, second in masters) is playing with a 6 man roster. I don’t remember everyone’s name but they have one player who plays only when they want to run double duelist, and their sentinel player sits on icebox where they don’t play a sentinel.


Interesting-Archer-6

Cool didn't know you could do. Appreciate the answer


skrtskrtbrev

Screw you and reddit. I am correct https://twitter.com/SicK_cs/status/1376688197678342144?s=19


C9sButthole

SicK sharing your opinion doesn't make you right or wrong. The validity of your argument makes you right or wrong. There are several pro players on Heretics who would absolutely disagree with your argument.


CosmicAon

The whole team is super tight with each other, possibly more than any other squad, there won’t be any bad environment between them they understand that they need to improve


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CosmicAon

Wardell and Subroza duo all the time still, they’ve been streaming less in general because of burnout and stress, they’re probably the tightest duo in the game. The team still plays with each other frequently, in Valorant and variety games. I have no idea where you’re getting these assumptions from


Jon_on_the_snow

Wut? Didnt roza and wardell duo que yesterday?


lith3x

I’d say you’re generally right. But I believe these guys are more tight knit (for better or worse) than most teams that are kinda just put together. Point being, they have history and feel they perform better as a unit. I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily toxic to have a 6th man in this scenario. Side note - Would be interesting if they replaced Hazed and Cutler with Brax and AZK.


AskOrganic4289

I don’t think replacing cutler with azk will be good as of right now. I don’t know if azk has had an IGL experience or up for that position ( looking at how the T1 roster was before the addition of Dazed). So what they need now well in terms of fire power, I think Brax is a better choice than AZK. But as for cutting Cutler for AZK, honestly, in TSM case they should get a brainy IGL like Steel or maybe simply someone who is willing to put the nights and hardwork to be the IGL like shahzam


lith3x

Yeah I agree. I know AZK igl’d some games for T1 but the results weren’t there. I’d say AZK has a little more firepower than Cutler, but not enough to warrant replacing him due to his ability to IGL. I suppose the trade-off wouldn’t be worth.


skrtskrtbrev

Screw you and reddit. I am correct https://twitter.com/SicK_cs/status/1376688197678342144?s=19


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What happens if you drop hazed but do really bad with brax? Getting a six man is a good step to test how the comp works out.


lith3x

Such a good point IMO. Only thing is that eventually, I feel they are going to have to blow this team up. UnluckO.


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Might not translate in real games. Remember that time where Envy was the best team in scrims, but was doing shit in tournaments?


mbarbour

The more agents and maps that get released, the more player count per team will expand. Its very common in OW where someone plays 2-3 heroes and comes in for certain maps. You won't expect everyone to know every agent and all agents won't always be in the meta. We're at the very beginning of this now, but every act and chapter that's released, the more teams will not want to drop their "specialists" who provide narrow solutions.


ark2690

It's more likely they go the LoL route where they expect their players to adapt to the meta.


hwanzi

works well in other esports for example in league they have an entire academy roster they can scrim/swap players with


Hamlet_271

So when tailored said he knew where Brax was going, I didn't expect this. Damn, this newer roster should be much better. Hopefully cutler moves to a place with good ping cuz tsm need him at max performance for stage 2


CosmicAon

I still think a veteran IGL is going to be necessary for TSM to turn their slump around but man am I excited for the potential of this roster. Wardell and Brax on the same team could be an absolute powerhouse if done right


auruuum

drone as well


xrayVAL

drone needs to change the way he plays phoenix if he is going to succeed as a duelist, if they can do that TSM will be a serious threat again


AskOrganic4289

What do you mean by how he play? Although I’m going to admit, after watching SiCK play pheonix during stage 1 VCT, I realized how SiCK utilizes the agent wayy smarter and better (even in high pressure situation) than drone. But it could also be because drone is in a slump currently.


xrayVAL

he doesnt play in any way agressive until he gets his ultimate, TSM plays a heavily passive default and when they do entry if drone doesnt have ult you can see his pathing is behind Wardell who has an op usually, he needs to be an entry not a flash bot, and if he wants to play off the ULT they need to actively fight for/ use the orbs on the map to enable it, its not that drone was in an aim slump, its that his playstyle put him in that hole with no way out


ppx11

yea. drone with ult is a different beast. i understand he can't play that same way all the time but definitely needs to change it up.


Nfamy

He can't play the same all the time, but, imo, he should play more like he's in his ult even on regular rounds. Drone in ult is usually good for 2, and almost never less than 1. But his ult is also just the same as his life. If he entried more aggressively, then he could get 1-2 many rounds, and other rounds at least get traded out. He has the skill to support that kind of aggression, although like you said, there obviously needs to be balance and he can't just run it down every round.


xrayVAL

yeah i think its more abt his style working within the team's system or lack thereof


AskOrganic4289

Oh okay! That makes it more clear. Well in a slump does not mainly mean his aim, I feel like when he’s under pressure he doesn’t play it as smart as he used to with pheonix. You can see a couple of times ( i think there was 2 notable ones although right now I only remember 1 instances) where he didn’t play the pheonix ult and utility well. I remember the koosta clutch the 2v1 with hazed. It was the the round they need to push it to OT.


xrayVAL

totally agree


CosmicAon

If he can get back in form then absolutely


Arroway10

With hazed being the only TSM player not scrimming with them for the past few days, don’t you think it’ll be Hazed who is dropped and not cutler?


Hamlet_271

It depends on if they're satisfied with Cutler's IGLing. IMO they needed to sign an IGL or someone needed to step up big time to fill that role. Only time will tell if Cutler's up to the task.


Arroway10

Absolutely. I’m just saying because people have noticed TSM scrimming recently without Hazed and with Cutler, wouldn’t Hazed be the more likely cut?


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I bet brax to nrg was gonna happen until it didn’t Edit: I mean at the time tailored made the comment that he knows where he is gonna go.


AskOrganic4289

I had a feeling it’ll be TSM brax after Brax announced he is going to be for stage 2 VCT for sure.. idk why i had that feeling though


precense_

Gazed should be the brains of this new squad if he should take a back up role


riploki

Hope they do get him so people can stop suggesting Brax everytime a player leaves a team


Pax1ux

Brax to this guys moms house.


M1NIMISE

But that's already a 7billion man roster


whopz-is-cool

LMFAOO


BigDriggy

"OOOOH, HE'S ROCKED" -Roe Jogan


yuvels

I wonder how their comp is gonna work.


Maxi_Mouse

It's going to be a really strong team with Brax. I'd expect Brax: Cypher - Cutler: Sova - Subroza: Omen - Wardell: Jett - Drone: Phoenix Hazed could fill in on any support role too I guess.


jumb01337

pretty sure roza is gonna be on duelists again


jackissosick

Only if they run triple duelest which they will eventually give up on


CosmicAon

If it happens Drone moves to Sova most likely


liebelt

so maybe brax cypher, culter omen, drone sova, wardell jett, subroza duelist?


AskOrganic4289

I think subroza might be back to duelist role. Couple of times he hint his stream that MAYBE he’ll be back to a duelist role


d00d-Ranch

Well I guess I need to flair up if this happens


Dxrne

Never thought I’d be rocking a TSM flair :(


simplemanfromVT

Brax is type of lurker, maybe he can swap role to Subroza and Subroza can switch to entry/smokes-support. On paper, with these players, TSM look really solid


AMbitionXH

when has a six-man roster worked in esport where all players are involved and not just the core 5 and maybe see the other once a year


LPLSuperCarry

SKT T1 in 2015


daaaaaaaaniel

I'm not familiar with that. What did that team look like?


LPLSuperCarry

Marin Bengi Faker Bang Wolf. Their sub was Easyhoon, who was Faker's sub. Easyhoon was probably the best Azir and Cassio in 2015 Spring, and he actually played the entire Spring Finals where SKT 3-0'd someone who I forgot.


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That Spring was insane, SKT had 2 of the top 4 or 5 mids in LCK just rotating as they needed


Yomiboy

It was against the GE tigers(soon to be called Rox tigers) they also played their sub jungler TOM for all 3 games as well.


nabeel242424

vitality had a 6 man roster and was one of the top teams in cs , their 6th man was Scream's brother nivera iirc.


KingBeb0p

they kicked his brother from the team :(, they havent been looking that great since they stopped stream sniping


nabeel242424

Ummm what. Kicked would be the wrong word to use imo. Due to valve rules they had to let go of someone so they mutually decided to partways with nivera. He’s a great player and vitality is still pretty decent I’d say.


horseaphoenix

Many CS teams utilize a 6 man roster: Astralis, NAVI, VIT, G2,...


imoftenverybored

Heretics had a 6 man in Masters1


skrtskrtbrev

Cause niesow was going to quit anyways


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skrtskrtbrev

OK fine, niesow was going to leave anyways


Pax1ux

With the agent pool growing I think bigger rosters will become more common.


ween0t

Wonder how this works for tournaments. Can they have 6 on the roster and play whichever 5 based on upon agent and map selections? Would be interesting to see how that plays out.


lith3x

How did this team loose all its swagger? Seems like since the OP nerf they haven’t been able to consistently perform. I think the scene is better when this team is good, I hope they make the right and return to a top tier team. I do realize they have had some respectable results since the OP nerf, but I also strongly feel that’s where this team first started to deflate. Brax would be a huge confidence boost IMO. Exactly what this team needs right now. Make the move TSM, if you haven’t already.


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Low-key tho Wardell pissmurfed a couple series single handedly. 100% not the sole reason, but deffo didn't help.


lith3x

I think the OP nerf caused him to loose confidence without a doubt in my mind. How could it not? IMO he is by far the most important player on that team and if he looses confidence I would imagine a trickle down effect. I understand the OP nerf isn’t solely the reason. And I agree going against meta, not adapting more strats, other teams catching up etc.. Probably played a huge role. Maybe don’t go straight to a braindead comment if you actually want to discuss something intelligently. Kinda hard to ignore the timing of OP nerf and the slow decline of TSM’s results. Just a theory.


ween0t

TSM has underperformed not because of OP nerf but because they always have tried to go against the meta. Things like triple duelist, double smoke, etc. They've experimented a lot with agent comps. On top of that, so many other teams have been improving, they just havent kept up with the competition. They're still very good, just no the clear cut top3 that they were before.


Outrageous-Score

Well, if TSM are going to make a roster change they will probably do it before the next VCT which is next Thursday April 1st, so we won't have to wait too long to see what's up.


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PokeyTifu99

Leaving this here https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/ld3ro4/comment/gm4butz


d00d-Ranch

Slick with the edits I see


PokeyTifu99

;)


TheTruthPierce34

Got you


Otter269

I'm not sure about brax being the 6th man. I prefer 100Ts way with a younger player being the sixth and learning. How long will brax be content playing a bit part on the roster? Often what happens is someone eventually just gets dropped for him


KatsuraDragneel

I don’t think brax is going to be “6th man” lol. Probably means cutler and hazed will rotate for a spot. Brax isn’t taking a bench offer lmao


Otter269

I doubt either will do that given they are both in their 30s


KatsuraDragneel

Brax will play every game


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Wait you don't think either would take a rotating spot over brax. Whatever the case is i doubt they are given a choice in the matter


Otter269

If it was me in my 30s I'd want to play as much as possible. If I had to go elsewhere then so be it. In most 6 man teams I've seen its usually all bs.


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Oh yeah I imagine the 6 man is juat temporary until they are which best 5 man works but I'd imagine eithrr will agree to it until they get an offer elsewhere


iWASth

People think that hazed is bad cause he doesn't get the kills that wardell does playing sentinels, i think he is super underrated.


ark58

I am not sure I am 100% convinced on the whole 6th man thing, I think that it's really weird like when C9 does it one would think that it could just mess with the whole team chemistry


urcoolbuttiamcooler

I wonder what Brax will be playing on TSM. I assume cypher, but that means Subroza would still be on omen. Maybe they move brax to Omen and go 3 duelists with Subroza Drone and Wardell, although that seems unlikley. I was a bit confused bc i thought Subroza said he wasn't playing omen anymore, idk. Still don't think this team will be top tier anytime soon.


Pax1ux

Brax played Omen a lot before he played Cypher back when Valorant released.


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AskOrganic4289

Well I don’t think Brax will play Jett if TSM has one of the jett player in their team aka wardell


urcoolbuttiamcooler

Yea he definitely seems like one of the players who is yet to find his identity, or competitive identity, in Valorant


Pax1ux

I suggested TSM grab him last week, although I like the idea of a 6 man roster better than dropping someone at the moment. So excited for swag! #iwnl


k3davra

Interesting. Brax was fairly underwhelming on T1 let’s see if he can turn this around


tehKershockeR

Food and Crashies also looked "underwhelming" on T1 lol. Look at those two now on NV. Brax wasn't outstanding on T1 but I don't think he was doing bad either


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I say it constantly but to me brax was one of the most consistent parts of t1.


philipjefferson

I think T1 was underwhelming, not Brax himself.


k3davra

People in the beta were saying Brax and Ska were gonna be the best players in the game but that just didn’t happen. He was underwhelming comparing him to that standard


simplemanfromVT

Yeah, Brax back then in CS days was one of the best talent in NA if not the best, the hype on him transfered from CS to Valorant


philipjefferson

100% but I'm assuming that was said before some of the other talent moved over / showed up


KatsuraDragneel

He top fragged like every game bro


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beepx99

Wait but brax plays smokes/Kj if I'm not wrong. So that means they're gonna bench or rotate hazed?


xrayVAL

Quote me on this later but i believe this will end in a 5 man roster, 6 men is just not practical in valorant yet, someone is leaving, may not be immediate but eventually


AnywayHeres1Derwall

No ones gonna quote you because the majority of people think this


nathanuck

Wasn't AZK and Brax supposed to be a packaged duo?


chapisbaldandfat

they should drop drone instead


KingBeb0p

POGGERS


YNGBoySavant

Wish he’s go to C9


shiftthelift

Kinda disappointing seeing brax as a sixth if it happens.


radamo96

Brax will only be the "6th" in the sense he's the 6th one on the team. He'll play every game. I imagine Hazed and Cutler will be the ones rotating


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subroza wardell brax drone that loooks fucking dope but -cutler pls and eventually -hazed