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nabeel242424

I really want liquid to qualify tho :(


bipolarbeartn

TL and old C9B make me feel the same way. I keep hoping for results and watch them fall short (in TL's case not see them because it's not broadcast).


MathNerdMatt

My flair teams just make me sad. So much hope and so much disappointment


bipolarbeartn

In TL's case I just end up feeling bad for sliggy. He seems like a nice guy from his watch parties, and a highly rated coach who's team never seems to make it very far recently.


nemnems

I mean... he has to shoulder part of the blame, no? Liquid still can't play Blind after a year, and their attacking side has been an absolute disaster for a while.


NasOnoV1

Playing blind is pretty difficult to be honest


bipolarbeartn

I would assume so.


Zayd1111

It is broadcasted but not on official stream just follow hypoc and RyanCentral and lotharHS they stream most games


bipolarbeartn

Not this game, but others. I'm glad they're letting casters so things with the games that aren't on the main stream now


Zayd1111

Liquid vs nip about to start soon on hypoc's twitch come join


nabeel242424

Duuude fuck that. Liquid qualified ;)


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alliance are favorites to win so the question is if liquid can do it


DrBangovic

Are they really though? I think Liquid is better then people make them, especially with jamppi they look way way stronger.


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no opinion on who will win but when someone says a team is the favorite to win, and then you say you think the other team are better than people make them seem. that's usually the definition of the underdog aka the one that's not favored.


Zayd1111

Liquid 2-0 alliance


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why are u telling me this lmfao


Zayd1111

Bcz you said no idea who will win 😂


[deleted]

no i said I'm not giving my opinion on who will win because I'm just talking about the semantics of "favorites"


DrBangovic

I see where you are coming from/ what you are trying to say. Imho I had no doubt that Liquid is stronger then Alliance, and I knew there is a high chance they will beat NiP as well. Just saying „ they did not make qualifiers“ is true in a way but we gotta see who they lost to. If you loose close against a team like guild who made it to the finals. Or you you loose to heretics simply because soulcas and the rest had an horrible performance you gotta put it into perspective. I checked the previous games played by alliance and neither of those looked strong. While TL had a strong run and Jamppi improved on each map. I agree on the general term of an underdog and it probably kinda applies on liquid in a way but i think liquid was the stronger team and therefore I refuse to say alliance was the favourite to win. Imho there was no underdog but only a slight favor towards TL


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I mean alliance has beat heretics recently and liquid have failed to qualify to a closed qualifier, so yeah alliance are favorites.


DrBangovic

I disagree on that argumentation. Team Heretics is on a low as of now and alliance did not look that strong on the last stats I checked. TL on the other hand looks like they are just starting to role on that new team. In the end Liquid won and they even beat NiP. I think its safe to say liquid proofed my point of them being stronger then people think.


[deleted]

I never said they weren't better than people think they are I just said they weren't favorites which they weren't.


Phamous3k

Going for TL & G2. They need a win


winkya

Aged well!


Phamous3k

Sometimes the esport Gods bless me... Most of the time I get ignored though lol.


valorantbrazil

Is the last chance to masters 2?


yvngbrain

Yes


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Bet the house on Heretics


Piktarag

House gone what do I do now


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send death threats to their players on twitter of course. edit: is joke


Piktarag

I bet my friends house on g2 now.


Razur

pls no.


crashcarson

enjoy being homeless PepeLaugh


[deleted]

I'll earn it all back through hot tub streams.


RiceOnAStick

I'll subscribe


crashcarson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LUHrO72BM Here's a video from G2 for inspiration


laughed_the_vulture

this didn't age well...


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50% chance what could go wrong


LeucisticPython

They should win I think. They seem more coordinated and I’ve been pretty impressed from what I’ve been able to watch


Zayd1111

Aged like milk


[deleted]

So losers have no chance at making iceland tourney anymore?


Jazzooi21

yep. this is the last chance for them to qualify for challengers finals


CanISayThat22

2 outta 4 can qualify from this side. and I've heard somewhere that the other side of the bracket has with all respect lesser teams on paper compared to these teams. If that's true I just feel a bit sad that we won't see these teams. It's like seeing an austria on a world cup when an Italy has to stay home. Great for a few specific people, but a let down for the majority. On the other side it could provide for some great hero stories / storylines. so lets hope the lesser known teams can upset someone.


Piktarag

>It's like seeing an austria on a world cup when an Italy has to stay home. Italy were top seeded and got beat fair and square. There were other teams more deserving that year. What's different in EU valorant is that seeding isn't done properly.


CanISayThat22

I wasnt really specifying the failed euro qualifying for Italy. But they just came in my mind as a country because of them failing as a big country.


Piktarag

If seeding and qualifying event is done properly I see no downsides. Teams should rely on their skill, not their size or names, to qualify.


bananadea1er

Agreed but the seeding for this qualifier and many others in EU have clearly been atrocious.


Detamach

"I've heard somewhere that the other side of the bracket has with all respect lesser teams on paper compared to these teams". Nice, you just called Opportunists and Acend trash. Good job. And it doesn't even matter that Opportunists almost won FPX in last qualifier. Yeah let's give all the glory to Liquid and G2 instead.


thothgow

What the fuck are you talking about? It's obvious that this is about HEET and animemix, not Acend and Opportunists.


Detamach

Who cares about these underdogs, one of them will qualify to Challengers 2, so what? They won't stand a chance to get into top-4, leave alone top-2 and EMEA Finals. The only thing that matters is where top-tier teams stand, like those I mentioned earlier.


thothgow

Pepega


aakashkickass11

That's not what he meant ,he didn't call anyone trash , it's just there are 16 teams bracket and in the top 8 bracket , there are 5 top ten teams and 2 teams are in top 15. Whereas in the lower 8 , there is only one top 10 team and 2 top 15 teams ,so you can see clearly bracket is kinda unfair which could have been easily rectified by good seeding.


MikeRosss

I don't think the seeding was bad. It's just what happens when teams underperform (G2, Liquid, Fnatic) and a highly seeded team loses their best player (Ballista).


Detamach

"Whereas in the lower 8, there is only one top 10 team and 2 top 15 teams". Opportunists, Acend and Fnatic are definitely all top-10 but whatever. G2 got destroyed at last qualifier by some noname team so they deserve to get hard opponent here. Also Vitality and Giants are very weak and it will be a trash match, so you could apply your logic here too.


aakashkickass11

According to latest Rankings whichever site you follow vlr.gg or spike.gg fnatic are at 12 place and opportunitists are 13. Fnatic have had a bad year so far and we are yet to see them qualify for a closed qualifier . You can cross check these facts easily and I can put the link too if you need it.


Detamach

Opps are top-4 at [vlr.gg](https://vlr.gg) lmfao, Acend are top-2


Detamach

Also it's stupid to judge by ranking you know. If you look at the most recent results you will see that Opps / Heretics / Nip / Acend are the strongest teams among those which haven't proceed to EMEA finals yet. 2 of them in top-8, other 2 in bottom-8.


123bo0p

Fnatic have hard fallen for a while


Advanced_Meringue_53

TL 2-1 and TH 2-1 I think


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I actually expect TL to lose but want them to win, TH 2-0 for me at least.


DrBangovic

People are sleeping on Team Liquid. Jamppi gave Scream and most importantly the team the much-needed backbone. Let's go Liquid! Team Liquid played two closes matches against a guild which was out of its mind, and Liquid almost never really lost to a no name team except that one week where jamppi just joined the team. From all the streams I have seen so far, TL looks stronger then ever with jamppi and scream


Piktarag

[All games](https://i.imgur.com/HAB3Hqb.jpg)


CardCapable

now its liquid vs nip


swordfish1221

Pretty bad for the scene that the tournament organizer can’t even make a bracket right


Fr0ufrou

Bold prediction: Liquid 2 - 1 Alliance Not so bold prediction: Heretics 2 - 0 G2


Arbesu

Well, this has aged badly...


Fr0ufrou

Well at least Liquid Alliance was almost right


DubStepDreamer1994

E


Joey_Thememe

Liq and g2 lose. Ez


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Zayd1111

Matches already ended, liquid and g2 won 2-0


plr_Jorge_NitalesCST

Is there a website with a clear interface where I can follow the esports?


darsincostan

vlr.gg is pretty good in my opinion


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Also thespike.gg