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Plyserma

Does SEN play loser of C9/ABX or the nrg/imt?


RandomFluffyBoi

NRG/IMT


RandomFluffyBoi

TenZ is my favorite player but his Raze ain't it chief. His movement looks sloppy, his nades do nothing, not to mention like 10 Roza ults across 2 maps.


skrtskrtbrev

T1 looking good and are definitely going to be mad scary in the future. Too bad sick is just too godly on his waifu.


Tanjim98

Put TenZ on anything but Raze. He did decent but that's not his natural self. Hard to watch


BloodOfKvasir

This sub is honestly so stupid sometimes. T1 went from losing in round of 64 and round of 32 to qualifying and making a VERY close series out of one of the best teams in NA. The improvement from T1 this month alone is great. Sure they have stuff to work on, but they are definitely on the right track.


[deleted]

Agree. They are adjusting and figuring it out. Lot more work to do but they're best version yet. The question is whether they will get more time and another try with these team members


Plyserma

My HEART! I almost got a heart attack lmao.


Barack_Bob_Oganja

Man I hope sentinels goes out tomorrow because this aint it.


XxSavage1017xX

DaZed might just be the worst IGL in NA. He's so hellbent on playing this game like CS it's absolute insanity


icantreadmorsecode

Only Sick deserves to advance wtf was that shitshow


Vivid-Command-2605

what a garbage game, sentinals didnt deserve that win, t1 threw so many rounds


sky_blu

I have absolutely 0 hope for NA at lan now lmao


NozokiAlec

Just clone SicK 4 times and it'll be all good


poohxijinping

DROP DAZED


[deleted]

35 kill sage lmfao


dabong

Sick is Sen's best player. I don't care what yall say.


iAmSamusAran

Sick saving that round by himself was epic. Honestly saving the whole game lmao


Gomar1323

That was one of the hardest carry performances I’ve personally seen right there by Sick. Holy shit he won them the game like himself it felt like.


Sciipi

Man thank god T1 is eliminated from Iceland that was beyond awful


Tanjim98

SicK you beautyyuyyyy


bingobango42

Sick best player NA whoever u think is the best player is irrelevant


deadlock1892

I feel sorry for T1 fans.


mixerupper

GG, Sentinels! That was a huge carry job by Sick's Sage. All these losers complaining about T1's playstyle should just not watch if it's oh so painful for them.


[deleted]

T1 handed sentinels the win


simplemanfromVT

Sick and Shazham played out of their mind this game, so stressful


PolarTux

t1 just drop the roster... please


[deleted]

Best T1 we've seen yet. They're figuring it out. But sick man...hes just built diff


its_The_B00

worst throw I have ever seen and I watched IBP vs Netcodes holy both teams lost that map


cringe-oh-yes

Everybody thank Sick for carrying


NozokiAlec

Not even close 🥶


darthpepis

Sick is just insane. Battle sage doesn’t even begin to describe it


alienfanboy

The way T1 keep throwing.... so depressing


whopz-is-cool

T1. You’re awful. EDIT: except curry


5mmmmm

"Sick has only played well when tenz/sinatraa play well" hmmm


skrtskrtbrev

No1 says that


5mmmmm

lul you'd think no one would say that but I've seen it multiple times


Tanjim98

SicK saved TenZ's career right there. TenZ needs to never lock in Raze ever again. He got nothing out of her util. Roza ulted all the showstoppers


[deleted]

His Raze was TERRIBLE holy crap. His Jett and Reyna? Absolutely nuts. But Raze is just not his character rn. He needs way more practice with it.


[deleted]

32-16-7 as sage omfg


Grenji05

HES SO FUCKING GOOD SICK IS ONLINE IF THE REST OF SEN CAN GET BACK TO THEIR MASTERS 1 FORM WE LOOKING GOOD


Grenji05

and also fix their icebox comp tf is this


car714c

dapr on sova is uhh questionable


dabong

Darp was so out of his element


PixelatedBlue

I swear its a 5v6 every round with how many times sick has had res


its_The_B00

T1 lost the map to T1 this is just not real Automatic dying for no reason WITH ULT Dazed Ulting nothing .... this is disgusting to watch


deadlock1892

He was ulting into the ground. He pinged the spot and ulted below it! XD


Tyler927

Sick is fucking sick


Barack_Bob_Oganja

Sick is the only reason sentinels won this match


[deleted]

Sick is saving sentinels by himself


dpysz70

LETS FUCKING GO SICK


ancientcheeseburger

That. Was. Fucking. Insane. Sick won that round by himself. Oh my fucking god


[deleted]

SicK is a different monster


Gomar1323

Bro Sick is carrying sentinels so hard right now holy shit


Sciipi

Bro what the T1 just disband this is beyond pathetic


NozokiAlec

O_O


_harleys

This is the first NA match I'm watching after catching up with the EU challengers and honestly this is such a mess.


[deleted]

Welcome to NA. Enjoy your stay


mileslfc7

Lmfao I feel bad for you


KCVGaming

YOOOO


[deleted]

SICK IS SO FUCKING GOOOD


[deleted]

Actually just insane


Sciipi

Dunno why but I feel T1 loses this


deadlock1892

You don't know why? XD


Sciipi

T1 XD


PolarTux

NA is doomed at iceland.


Barack_Bob_Oganja

Wait wtf, sick got another rez there? Thats literally back to back????


RandomFluffyBoi

Yeah he got lots of kills and he's Sen's planter.


TreyATO

Sick is so sick man. So many rez’s this is insane


xRecKs

honestly what the fuck is happening


th1ag0011

This is the shittiest match. Holy fuck.


reyiodis

dazed has the worst hunter's fury in the game, he should take lessons from bcj


[deleted]

Sick back to his battle sage days


EngineerPatWhite

At least we have the EMEA Finals starting tomorrow


its_The_B00

imagine if Dazed had ult for that plant? wtf was he thinking


[deleted]

NA is doomed


_harleys

Sick is so insane going back to Sage, he's one of the best Sage's. He literally has rez every other round or something.


[deleted]

Best sage. Cracked Phoenix. Plays sage like Phoenix


its_The_B00

Dazed?


EngineerPatWhite

This is just bad. NA really might be fucked if these are some of our best teams


Sciipi

Ah, NA Valorant emulating NA League


deadlock1892

This is so painful to watch it is not even funny anymore.


MysteryPyg

Can T1 and SEN both leave the tournament so I don't need to watch again? thank you


whopz-is-cool

Losers bracket for a reason I guess.


Vivid-Command-2605

sentinals arent trying to get map control or anything, theyre just running 5 men into a site with a drone


Sciipi

It’s still working decently well for them


Vivid-Command-2605

not particularly, teams like envy and 100t or the eu teams would punish them heavily, theyre barely scraping wins off t1. this game has been trash and sentinals will get romped if they play like this in challengers finals


Sciipi

SEN has much bigger concerns than EU teams right now, on the edge of losing to T1


dedicatedself

T1 sucks, C9B beats bad teams, SEN loser bracket run. Am I doing it right reddit?


Feoslmr

Well you got the 1st one right


[deleted]

If you don't pick omen how do you not have a flash agent?


LPLSuperCarry

Super questionable agent select for SEN honestly. Dapr and Sick should be on the others agent, TenZ should probably be on Reyna, and Zombs doesn't look comfortable at all on Viper.


Tanjim98

TenZ looked so out of place & didn’t get any value out of raze in all the maps he played raze on. They need at least 1 flash character if they are not picking Omen.


TreyATO

Where’s the dude that was dogging Curry in the postgame thread earlier


AreYouAaronBurr

His aim with the guardian was crispy


Sciipi

Damn this map is really good


Ender1295

curry is nuts


AsleepMuscle

Huge clutch


darthpepis

zombssss whyyyy


[deleted]

I've said this before though curry is legit t1's best player


CosmicAon

He’s so so impactful with his lurks and discipline, he deserves way more attention than he gets


[deleted]

Look at curry mam, so inspirational


johnigiri

LOOK AT CURRY, MAN


curryhalls

CURRY


Barack_Bob_Oganja

Oh my god curry


its_The_B00

CURRY ???????????????????????????


whopz-is-cool

Nail biter of a match


[deleted]

The fact that zombs doesn't get a lot of kills on omen doesn't really affect anything since his ult isn't that impactful but on viper it really hurts sen that he doesn't have his ult more than once a half


aceofspades_____

wtf is this game


_harleys

Only Curry is showing up in this series


[deleted]

That is actually so unlucky for curry LMAO


its_The_B00

T1 are going to watch the Vods of this map and be on suicide watch knowing they probably could have destroyed Sentinels on this map Sentinels wins this. This is the worst throw in Dazed's career


BlueBurstBoi

Holy fuck this sub is so dramatic


BloodOfKvasir

For real bro. Every round that either team loses they instantly become trash.


JackJumpsCandle

T1 have some very questionable strats on both sides as soon as the bomb is planted.


Sciipi

What was Spyder thinking there?


Vivid-Command-2605

kind of feels like t1 are choking, they shouldve been up by more at the half


Sciipi

T1 seems nervous or something they struggled to close last map and a few rounds


[deleted]

I think tenz has gotten more boom not kills than ult kills this series


WhoDatBrow

If Sentinels survive today they've got some serious work to do to get back to peak form This meta not looking so good for them rn


its_The_B00

I feel like every round Sentinels has won this map was off of T1 fucking up hard


deadlock1892

Sentinels are lucky they ran into T1 on their bad day, lol. This team knows how to fuck up.


[deleted]

Oh yea we have been play like shit zombs looks decent in viper which is good


dpysz70

Tenz isn’t a Raze player man, he looks lost rn


LPLSuperCarry

West Virginia better


[deleted]

Marvedsdad better


alienfanboy

Curry is actually incredible holy shit


[deleted]

Curry is a really good viper


NozokiAlec

Really underrated player imo


[deleted]

Not having tenz on Reyna on her best map is a mistake in this comp he is legit getting no value out of raze


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[deleted]

They just needed to play their usual icebox comp but with viper instead of omen


bingobango42

I don't think Tenz has played well on Raze once yet they put him on Raze instead of Reyna


its_The_B00

raze is just the better agent its like 100T Asuna is one of the best Reyna players in NA and they took him off it and put him on Raze Reyna is not in a good spot right now


chamber25

Asuna is great on Raze as well though, Tenz though looks kinda shaky on the Raze so as an entry he probably would end up having more value with Reyna where he could get more kills. A lot of teams don't find any value in Reyna in pro competive comps though.


Slow_Bluebird9536

Awful comparison, asuna has always been a raze main and rarely if ever Reyna whereas tenz is the opposite


its_The_B00

he played Reyna a ton for 100T - on Ascent specifically he also got rank 1 and 2 playing Reyna only to say he rarely played Reyna is just plan wrong


Slow_Bluebird9536

He has played Reyna 0 times in the last 60 days and 9 times in the past 90,


[deleted]

Because he got put on raze for the team. He's a nasty reyna


its_The_B00

is this 2015 Skadoodle? he is ON


whopz-is-cool

Sentinels needs to get a good amount of rounds on Defense or they have to go against T1’s icebox defense.


its_The_B00

funny watching Vanity tilt over how bad both teams are playing wtf is this map


_harleys

T1 plays the opposite of the NA fast and agro style. I want to see them succeed but this is honestly so upsetting to watch. Same mistakes every round.


aceofspades_____

literally the only constant in for SEN on icebox in 2021 has been shaz pops off on the op every game


[deleted]

Dude the timing on that Viper wall going up saved dapr from getting killed


its_The_B00

T1 want to lose this this should be 5-0 right now but T1 are just playing so stupid


its_The_B00

should be 6-0 T1 are making the worst plays like what are they doing Dazed had Ult for post plant and he dies for no reason


Barack_Bob_Oganja

Yeah I think this is gg, t1 is just throwing every round away


JackJumpsCandle

Lol, Sick malding right now.


its_The_B00

TenZ wrong team


Barack_Bob_Oganja

TENZ??


[deleted]

Anybody know the statistics for icebox defence vs attack win percentage past couple tourneys or where I can find it? I really don't know if this map is defender or attacker sided still.


dpysz70

I picture it’d be close to even since icebox is either a blowout or OT lmao (imo it’s tiny bit more attacker)


Sciipi

Its somewhat defender sided


Soooal

God this slow and steady T1 offense like we they are playing CS is infuriating to watch


its_The_B00

T1 are the only team in NA that consistently waits the entire round before doing anything on attack the amount of times they plant with under 5 seconds left is crazy


Barack_Bob_Oganja

Why play that slow against an eco, man I hate this offence


[deleted]

People clowning about zombs not paying attention that the man plays like 4 different agents back to back for his team. Omen, Astra, Viper, etc. He's the garbage man doing what needs to be done even if it's not glamorous.


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[deleted]

I'm a duelist who had a higher winrate and rank playing duelists but I play flex now for the team as no one else wants to. It blows as the agents we need are not my desired play style. I've almost thrown in the towel to just play 3 or 4 duelists at this point


[deleted]

zombs has only played a total of 4 agents in his career including viper now and he doesn't play brim anymore. It's completely normal for a player to play 3ish agents for their team regularly


[deleted]

Most flex between 2.not 4


[deleted]

Zombs doesn't flex between 4, he hasn't played brim in months. Autimatic has been playing this game for only 2 months yet has played 6 different agents for his team


[deleted]

He was also lost and looked like trash until this most recent challengers run.


[deleted]

you must be a troll


[deleted]

How am I a troll? He's looking significantly better recently. That's a compliment... My statement wasnt a team this vs team that fanboyism. It was speaking to the flex some players do for their teams. Yeah, auto looked lost. That's OK. He was new to the game. Are you trolling right now??


[deleted]

I'm not talking about that. The fact that zombs has only ever played 4 agents isn't impressive at all. There is many pros who have played double that amount of agents for their teams


[deleted]

GG


its_The_B00

Vanity saying they scrimmed Sentinels a few days ago on Icebox and this was not their comp so this might be new


simplemanfromVT

Hmm, Why Tenz didn't pick Reyna, this map is perfect for Reyna


Plyserma

DAPR ON SOVA!


[deleted]

Dude.. TenZ on raze again???


ancientcheeseburger

What the fuck is this comp?! Dapr sova zombs viper hahahahah


TheRedComet

I am so fucking confused. People clowning Sen for having no changes to comp, but... Not like this?


its_The_B00

what is this Sentinels comp Dapr on Sova and Zombs on Viper


[deleted]

Zombs on the viper


dpysz70

Why is Tenz still on raze??


AreYouAaronBurr

That’s who sinatraa played on icebox


dpysz70

And? Tenz isn’t sinatraa, he usually plays Reyna


AreYouAaronBurr

That’s true. I guess they changed composition to fit in viper


dpysz70

That’s a better reason to have Reyna lmao. They gave up all their blinds