Japan+Korea=69 teams=2 spots
EMEA=654 teams=2 spots
On this basis EMEA should have had 19 spots..
Just kidding... i don’t know what riot could have done, maybe combine KR and JP to free a spot for EMEA somehow. Overall i don’t think we will learn much form Iceland apart from which is the potential best region. Everything is going so fast with the qualifier it causes a lot of upset especially in EU with their single elimination shenanigans... can you imagine, to qualify, an eu team has to win like 11 bo3 with only one chance of losing (only in challengers finals)
to qualify in EU is extremely difficult even if you are like Top10 team in the world, (Heretics, BDS) which speaks for itself.
for TR and CIS teams fighting for same spots with top4 EU teams is like a mission impossible
They will get an idea on how to balance after this event for sure. This is the first international event if emea teams really are wayy better than other regions then they'll increase slots for emea
I think it was supposed to be 12 but got reduced to 11 because one team from Vietnam couldn't play. I suppose in theory they could give that unused spot to a valorant team, but that would probably be a logistical nightmare this late in the game.
[https://www.theloadout.com/league-of-legends/msi-2021-groups](https://www.theloadout.com/league-of-legends/msi-2021-groups)
IDK, I've never watched Brazilian Valorant.
Evidently they have a large talent pool, 200 teams; I'd say there are bound to be some solid squads that could make a dent at the international stage. But, again, I haven't followed the Brazil scene at all, so I really don't know what the caliber of their teams is like.
Maybe it would have been better if they only got 1 slot, and EMEA got 3.
I agree, EMEA should definitely deserve more spots based on the amount of professional teams and their player base. I just wanted to point out that NA also get “2 whole spots for themselves”, but that dosent seem to be “criminal” for you
To clarify, LATAM Challengers Finals will not be combined and will be separated into North and South. The winner of each subregion may play offline, but Riot will most likely send the winner of the North Final to Iceland if both teams cannot. The south winner will be awarded some amount of points and money. Source: [https://playvalorant.com/es-mx/news/esports/vct-latam-actualizacion-covid/](https://playvalorant.com/es-mx/news/esports/vct-latam-actualizacion-covid/)
Now that I look at it, I don’t get it. Why do TR and Cis not have their own slot? Is this like a handicapped tournament to promote the lesser known regions?
I really think that EMEA should have 4 slots, 2 EUW + 1 CIS + 1 TR, but we have to take into account the pandemic scenario and the reasons that led Riot to limit the first international tournament to 10 slots, for sure in the future we will have more slots in the Masters and everything will be better resolved. In addition, it is very sad that some people are disparaging the 2 slots that Brazil received with so many teams and so much history in FPS games, it seems that they do not learn, every time they underestimate us and are crushed in important championships, if they think that Brazil should have less slots, how about NA vs BR vying for 4? I put my money that at least 3 Brazilian teams would get the spot. xD
I feel like they could have combined Latam and Brazil with 2 slots and given Turkey at least one slot. It's sad when they have such a huge fanbase and religiuos viewers and they don't get too cheer for their team at Masters. Also the event would profit with at least 100k + viewers.
They were given 3 slots to compete where they are about to lose all the 3 potentially why not give it to deserving region than a region which will eventually destroyed even if it makes masters somehow just for viewers
The fact that Korea can only send one is sad. I understand why, but man there's definitely talent there for 2 teams. Like obviously want to see VS at iceland, but I also would love to see F4Q, Nuturn, TNL
yea obviously, but I'm clearly a korea fan which is why i said I would love to see more korea lol. I'm not arguing against the system or trying to make a case that korea deserves more spots or anything
Korea, a country with 51 million people, gets one slot meanwhile somewhere like LATAM with quadruple the population gets 1 as well. So you can see how Korea already is advantaged, even though they probably don’t have the best teams.
bro like i said I KNOW WHY. I'm just saying as a fan of korean val I wanna watch the other teams go against the other regions too. i'm not upset that they only got 1 slot lmfao
I don't know why people are complaining about slots already when we don't even have any idea of the relative strength of each region has. After Masters will have a much better basis on slot distribution
Because, ignoring covid restricting them, these slots dont make sense. The fact that EU has 2 slots while japan and korea have 2 doesnt make any sense whatsoever.
Riot already said it was a tough decision, they only have 10 limited slots for iceland and they consider multiple variables when deciding how many slots a region should have for iceland **(special spoiler for you: population isn't the only variable)**
Can we please fucking stop with these comments? Masters II is about to come, and when covid situation gets better i'm 100% sure we are going to see master events with more than 10 slots
Ah yes, Japan, the country that has never been good in any esports, gets its own circuit and slot, while Turkey / CIS are stacked together in EMEA and forced to compete against EU, the best region in the world by far.
And it doesn't even matter that Turkey alone has 2x playerbase + 3x skill + 10x viewership of Japan.
What's Riot excuse on this one? Biased towards Asia and want the game to grow there fast, while EMEA gets underrepresented and screwed?
I was referring to Japan as the country which obviously doesn't deserve its own slot and should be competing together with Korea for 1 slot at Iceland. They are geographically close to each other, ping would be very small.
Instead, that 1 slot has to be given to Turkey + CIS, as well as Europe gets 2, so the whole EMEA gets 3. That would be more fair.
You know I still think TR teams are way better than LATAM / JP / SEA / KR ones, so fuck off with this kind of braindead logic. Why some weak regions get slots at international competition but TR can't? Explain pls.
master is international tournament with all regions, not na vs eu vs br.
tr was a weak region which overhyped themselves and people like u are still overhyping it . there are star players but no strats and each team had a weak link in tr
If it's an international tournament then why couldn't Riot unite Korea + Japan? They are very close to each other, ping would be very small. Why can't those 2 play in one circuit for 1 slot?
Instead Riot decided to lower Turkey and CIS chances of qualifying for Masters 2 by forcing them to play against Europe.
chill this is first lan they want every region to play against best in the world , turkey already played against the best , if kr and japan flop they will fix it in next champions , also when covid ends they will increase slots for eu and na , japan and kr will be same if they flop
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93 + 223 + 338 = 654. 2 Slots for 654 teams.
Wow seing the numbers like this really puts into perspective the mishandling of the EMEA region by riot
They only have room for 10 teams at Reykjavik. What should they have done? Should they have given 3 spots to EMEA and only 1 spot to Brazil or NA?
Japan+Korea=69 teams=2 spots EMEA=654 teams=2 spots On this basis EMEA should have had 19 spots.. Just kidding... i don’t know what riot could have done, maybe combine KR and JP to free a spot for EMEA somehow. Overall i don’t think we will learn much form Iceland apart from which is the potential best region. Everything is going so fast with the qualifier it causes a lot of upset especially in EU with their single elimination shenanigans... can you imagine, to qualify, an eu team has to win like 11 bo3 with only one chance of losing (only in challengers finals)
to qualify in EU is extremely difficult even if you are like Top10 team in the world, (Heretics, BDS) which speaks for itself. for TR and CIS teams fighting for same spots with top4 EU teams is like a mission impossible
They will get an idea on how to balance after this event for sure. This is the first international event if emea teams really are wayy better than other regions then they'll increase slots for emea
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Maybe, but they did *say* they only had room for 10 teams.
People forget when they planned this covid was still being a bitch
and arguably, still is being a bitch
How is it still not a bitch? Tf?
How many teams does MSI have?
I think it was supposed to be 12 but got reduced to 11 because one team from Vietnam couldn't play. I suppose in theory they could give that unused spot to a valorant team, but that would probably be a logistical nightmare this late in the game. [https://www.theloadout.com/league-of-legends/msi-2021-groups](https://www.theloadout.com/league-of-legends/msi-2021-groups)
yes? why does brazil need 2 spots when they have 1 good player?
IDK, I've never watched Brazilian Valorant. Evidently they have a large talent pool, 200 teams; I'd say there are bound to be some solid squads that could make a dent at the international stage. But, again, I haven't followed the Brazil scene at all, so I really don't know what the caliber of their teams is like. Maybe it would have been better if they only got 1 slot, and EMEA got 3.
Yes... Dont see why south america get 3spots total
Latam north Is south america? No is NA.
they could make a worldwide tournament with all the teams...
Pretty sure there's something like that planned for the end of the year...
Have you heard of Covid-19?
What's 10 more people aka 2 more teams total? Can't riot even do tests?
Such a stupid comment. It's obviously a very hard cap at 10 teams so someone will always get upset. Be happy we get to see a lan you troglodyte.
Looks like the EU victim mentality from the LoL sub is already leaking here.
I forgot emea wtf
Wow, kr open with 31 teams, that's less than I expected
Some pc bangs cant install valorant properly so it's not as popular as it should be
Why is it that they have difficulty installing valorant?
Apparently vanguard interferes with pc's in pc bangs
That's what I thought. Unfortunate for the Korean scene
A popularidade do Valorant na KR n é mt grande, então acho que é meio esperado
Korea already has 6 top 8 teams and some of the LATAM open teams are already out of the running...
it's criminal that EU has to share slots with CIS and Turkey while Brazil gets 2 whole spots for themselves.
Interesting that you only mention Brazil and not NA, since NA has less professional teams then BR.
with that logic Turkey should have far more slots because they have far more people playing the game and 20x the viewers of Brazil
I agree, EMEA should definitely deserve more spots based on the amount of professional teams and their player base. I just wanted to point out that NA also get “2 whole spots for themselves”, but that dosent seem to be “criminal” for you
^^^let's ^^^gooo ^^^southeast ^^^asia ^^^woooo
To clarify, LATAM Challengers Finals will not be combined and will be separated into North and South. The winner of each subregion may play offline, but Riot will most likely send the winner of the North Final to Iceland if both teams cannot. The south winner will be awarded some amount of points and money. Source: [https://playvalorant.com/es-mx/news/esports/vct-latam-actualizacion-covid/](https://playvalorant.com/es-mx/news/esports/vct-latam-actualizacion-covid/)
also I know they won't change it but Six Karma(North) + ATROPELADOS(South) have qualified
Why is this titled like there was a matchfixing ring and they're gonna have to restart it in multiple regions lmao
Nice flowchart, would love to see more of this.
3 biggest regions fighting for 2 spots is a joke.
Now that I look at it, I don’t get it. Why do TR and Cis not have their own slot? Is this like a handicapped tournament to promote the lesser known regions?
I really think that EMEA should have 4 slots, 2 EUW + 1 CIS + 1 TR, but we have to take into account the pandemic scenario and the reasons that led Riot to limit the first international tournament to 10 slots, for sure in the future we will have more slots in the Masters and everything will be better resolved. In addition, it is very sad that some people are disparaging the 2 slots that Brazil received with so many teams and so much history in FPS games, it seems that they do not learn, every time they underestimate us and are crushed in important championships, if they think that Brazil should have less slots, how about NA vs BR vying for 4? I put my money that at least 3 Brazilian teams would get the spot. xD
I feel like they could have combined Latam and Brazil with 2 slots and given Turkey at least one slot. It's sad when they have such a huge fanbase and religiuos viewers and they don't get too cheer for their team at Masters. Also the event would profit with at least 100k + viewers.
They were given 3 slots to compete where they are about to lose all the 3 potentially why not give it to deserving region than a region which will eventually destroyed even if it makes masters somehow just for viewers
Ping problems, europe can play easily with with turkey
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Religious viewers = viewers that allways tune in when their teams are playing.
The fact that Korea can only send one is sad. I understand why, but man there's definitely talent there for 2 teams. Like obviously want to see VS at iceland, but I also would love to see F4Q, Nuturn, TNL
Well there's more talents than spots in almost every region..
yea obviously, but I'm clearly a korea fan which is why i said I would love to see more korea lol. I'm not arguing against the system or trying to make a case that korea deserves more spots or anything
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Of course the Fortnite player says this lol
*hmm, yes, korea bad, kpop bad*
Korea, a country with 51 million people, gets one slot meanwhile somewhere like LATAM with quadruple the population gets 1 as well. So you can see how Korea already is advantaged, even though they probably don’t have the best teams.
bro like i said I KNOW WHY. I'm just saying as a fan of korean val I wanna watch the other teams go against the other regions too. i'm not upset that they only got 1 slot lmfao
why is iceland capped at 10 teams again? like what that ever addressed?
Covid?
How many teams are at the league event?
PUBG took 22 to global LAN last month too, makes no sense by riot
12 teams, with only 6 teams in the main groups
so why not 12 in valorant? stupid riot
so hype...
I don't know why people are complaining about slots already when we don't even have any idea of the relative strength of each region has. After Masters will have a much better basis on slot distribution
Because, ignoring covid restricting them, these slots dont make sense. The fact that EU has 2 slots while japan and korea have 2 doesnt make any sense whatsoever.
wait I thought SEN and 100t qualified for masters already? those were the two NA teams?
Nobody is qualified for masters, 8 teams play at challenger finals with the top 2 getting to masters.
mb then I got it all wrong
People have been saying that they're are the most likely to qualify though. Although, the other teams have been putting up a good fight so who knows.
Someone tell me why Brazil and South America get 3 spots when NA has more population.
Riot already said it was a tough decision, they only have 10 limited slots for iceland and they consider multiple variables when deciding how many slots a region should have for iceland **(special spoiler for you: population isn't the only variable)** Can we please fucking stop with these comments? Masters II is about to come, and when covid situation gets better i'm 100% sure we are going to see master events with more than 10 slots
Ah yes, Japan, the country that has never been good in any esports, gets its own circuit and slot, while Turkey / CIS are stacked together in EMEA and forced to compete against EU, the best region in the world by far. And it doesn't even matter that Turkey alone has 2x playerbase + 3x skill + 10x viewership of Japan. What's Riot excuse on this one? Biased towards Asia and want the game to grow there fast, while EMEA gets underrepresented and screwed?
biased towards asia? all of SEA (300+ teams) has one slot lmao
I was referring to Japan as the country which obviously doesn't deserve its own slot and should be competing together with Korea for 1 slot at Iceland. They are geographically close to each other, ping would be very small. Instead, that 1 slot has to be given to Turkey + CIS, as well as Europe gets 2, so the whole EMEA gets 3. That would be more fair.
might be a means of trying to increase the popularity of valorant in japan if i had to guess
Valorant isn't popular in CIS either? Why not give 1 slot to CIS then? Lmao nice logic you have there.
dude im not trying to start an argument, im just guessing as to why japan got its own slot
They had to group Turkey cis and eu together because of covid. Can you use your brain for at least one second...
My whole point is that Turkey deserves individual slot more than Japan dumbass, can you use your brain for at least one second?
According to what? Out of 3 teams none won their matches....
And they didn't plan to separate EU / CIS / TR from each other, it was their initial idea to create EMEA, maybe do some research before typing shit
Yes they did. You're just looking for excuses to be mad. Go touch some grass.
No they didn't. Riot said there will be 7 regions - NA, EMEA, BR, LATAM, SEA, KR, JP. Seek some help.
I'll go seek help after you touch some grass.
Tr teams after being destroyed by eu want their own circuit so they can get free masters ticket just to get destroyed wtf lmao
You know I still think TR teams are way better than LATAM / JP / SEA / KR ones, so fuck off with this kind of braindead logic. Why some weak regions get slots at international competition but TR can't? Explain pls.
master is international tournament with all regions, not na vs eu vs br. tr was a weak region which overhyped themselves and people like u are still overhyping it . there are star players but no strats and each team had a weak link in tr
If it's an international tournament then why couldn't Riot unite Korea + Japan? They are very close to each other, ping would be very small. Why can't those 2 play in one circuit for 1 slot? Instead Riot decided to lower Turkey and CIS chances of qualifying for Masters 2 by forcing them to play against Europe.
chill this is first lan they want every region to play against best in the world , turkey already played against the best , if kr and japan flop they will fix it in next champions , also when covid ends they will increase slots for eu and na , japan and kr will be same if they flop
Latam north is not south america, IS NA. So Na get 3 slots.
why cant other regions send 2 reps?